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Nov 02 2018
AZLOT69
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 Joined Feb 12 2002
 Gold Canyon, AZ
Superstition Wilderness - Scenic 4WD LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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4x4 Trip48.60 Miles 6,030 AEG
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Had a great day out on this trip. Only a few others around. Some pretty serious washouts from the October rains.
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Mar 04 2017
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 Joined Jun 09 2009
 Mesa, AZ
Superstition Wilderness - Scenic 4WD LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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4x4 Trip33.80 Miles 6,030 AEG
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I hadn't done the Montana Mountain Loop in probably 10 years or so. I had been thinking about it for a while so I organized some friends to come and we made a day of it. The trail is still easy, could probably be done in 2wd as long as you had high clearance. The recent rains have made it nice out of there, several water crossings. The switchbacks on 650 are fun. I was a little worried since last time I was in my Jeep, this time I was in my truck which is a little bit longer, but I made the turns just fine.

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Superstition Wilderness - Scenic 4WD LoopPhoenix, AZ
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4x4 Trip48.60 Miles 6,030 AEG
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I did this in my stripped down stock Wrangler with 33x12.5 mud tires. While the road (650) wasn't quite as bad as I envisioned it might be, I wouldn't want to do it in anything with a longer wheel base or less rugged tires. It beat us up, for sure, but it was entirely doable without causing any damage to my Jeep (that I know of :pray: ). I just barely made some of the tight hairpin turns and there was no room for backing around even a little if you couldn't cut it tight enough. Backing up the way you came is not an option. If Bruce drove this in his F-150 then he is :worthy: cuz I can't imagine trying to snake my truck down that mountain! :scared:

If you've got the appropriate ride, this drive is really spectacular. I've been wanting to do this for years and I'm so glad I finally got around to it. We followed Grasshopper's route (T.Hank.s!), which I had downloaded on my GPS, but I never had to look at it, as the correct way always seemed fairly obvious (most traveled). At the highest elevations, pine trees and wildflowers lined the road and the views were just outstanding. We took the side trip to the stone cabin (which was, by far, the worst section of road traveled that day), but it was totally worth it. Quite a marvel of engineering for the time. The windmill there looks brand new? :-k A few miles further on, we pulled off the road and hiked a section of the Arizona Trail that goes through Whitford Canyon, a beautiful red rock area shaded with Sycamores and Cottonwoods just south of the 509 trailhead. I took most of my photos there. This scenic section is only a couple miles and it makes a great side trip.

What I didn't expect to see was other people on that road, but we encountered 5 ATVs and one other Jeep, although the Jeep was turning around and going back before it even got close to the hard driving. Hank suggests going clockwise and I totally agree. I think it would be a lot harder going up those switchbacks than it was going down and you would miss out on the best views.

It was a great day and a lot of fun to see some new territory. We were positively crusty with dirt by the time we got done and I even had to hose down the inside of the Jeep! Worth it. :GB:
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Nov 11 2013
AZLOT69
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4x4 Trip48.60 Miles 6,030 AEG
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Fun full day adventure.
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Feb 23 2012
AZLumberjack
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 Apache Junction,
Montana Mountain, AZ 
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4x4 Trip35.50 Miles 2,700 AEG
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Last Summer, as I traveled from my home in Minnesota to my home in Apache Junction, I brought my Yamaha ATV along to see if I could get better use of the machine down here. This was my first use of the ATV since it's journey to Arizona. Our motorized group consisted of Doug, Howard, Tom and myself all on individual machines. The ATV groups just refer to this trip as the Montana Mountain run.

The starting point for our journey was a parking lot just off Hwy. 60 just prior to the turnoff into Thompson Arboretum. We unloaded the machines and made sure everything was ready for a pretty long 35 mile loop that would be mostly on jeep/ATV trails. Our route would be in a counter-clockwise direction that would take us up to a 5,300 foot elevation and lots of scenic views along the way.

Once out of the parking lot, we traveled on FSR 650 through Happy Camp Canyon and on up to Wood Camp Canyon where we began a steep ascent of Montana Mountain. The route consisted of many switch backs in a very short distance, but offered some outstanding views of the canyons below. This area had received a bit of rain recently and the Poppies were in full bloom. Some of the canyons had large golden patches of the colorful flowers. We traveled through some areas where the Poppies were so thick the sweet odor filled the air for miles around.

The summit areas of Montana Mountain had suffered a fire within the last year so our travels took us through a couple of miles of blackened Pinion trees and desert flora. Once through the fire area, we arrived at a confluence with the AZT and some great camping areas. There was no water to be found up here, but the air was fresh and the Pinion trees gave off their pleasant distinct odor. A short distance further down the trails we arrived at the Rogers Trough Trailhead.

At the trailhead, we took a short break. There were six vehicles in the parking lot, all FWD. We admired the views of Iron Mountain in front of us and were glad we didn't have to ascend its steep sides. From here we began a decent from the mountains following route 172A which changed into 172 at a juncture further down.

The route we were on now was somewhat improved over the Jeep/ATV trails we had been on and we were able to make better time. As the trail continued down, we paused in a dry wash alongside Hackberry Butte where we scanned the cliffs with binoculars to see if we could find some Bighorn Sheep. Sure enough, there was one full curl guy silhouetted against the blue sky, but he disappeared before I could get my camera out if its bag (Dang it).

Our route continued down a very scenic Hewitt Canyon Road with some spectacular views of Roblas Butte and Hewitt Ridge, finally ending at Hewitt Station Road. A right turn here would have brought us to Queen Valley but a left would take us back to the parking lot and the end of the adventure.

Because of the trip distance and time, I was regrettably unable to take as many photos as I would like to, so that just means that I'm going to have to make a return trip to fill in the blanks. There were several ATV's out, a few Jeep's and a couple of motorized dirt bikes. There was a fair amount of litter along the route and "fans of the wilderness" that can't understand the signs recommending no motorized travel on some of the ridges. It's some of the most beautiful country in Arizona and deserves to be protected for our future generations :SB: Sorry, I just had to put my :M2C: for measure.
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Dec 23 2011
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 Joined Dec 28 2006
 Scottsdale, AZ
Superstition Wilderness - Scenic 4WD LoopPhoenix, AZ
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4x4 Trip48.60 Miles 6,030 AEG
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The past few years I've always much enjoyed spending a part of Christmas week or New Years week car camping and hiking the eastern section of our Superstition Wilderness around and north of the Byous Butte area off Hewitt Canyon Road (FR172).

This holiday season I had the idea of doing a long day trip making the complete 4-wheel driving loop starting and ending at the intersection of Hwy 60/Queen Valley Road (with only 1.6 miles of this 48 mile loop planned to be on paved road). My thought was to document this scenic forty-eight mile loop by issuing a new hike description and a complete GPS Route with all the ~13 trailhead waypoint locations one drives by.

I felt very fortunate that Eric and Angela were interested in joining me so our planned loop drive would be much more enjoyable with good company, and Eric offering to drive his family 4WD Xterra, and Angela to offer her natural flair to our special holiday outing. Since it was Christmas week with Santa Claus visits pending, I thought a little holiday dress code with red and green was also in order. Of course this now made it mandatory to document each of our TH stops with a group pic :)

I am happy to report that we were successful in documenting with stops and pics 11 of 13 total TH locations :DANCE: . Also, thanks to Eric and Angela's good distant vision coming down FR650, we were able to locate, visit, and document a very interesting and historic old stone cabin and mining homestead- "Wood Camp Cabin" located off FR650 on a short 4WD access road within Club Camp Canyon.

I had often thought that this scenic eastern Superstition Wilderness 4WD loop trip would make an excellent day outing for family and/or out of state visitors who are not into hiking but would rather enjoy a longer back-country day driving trip with varied flora, geology, amAZing near and long distance views, and with ranching/mining history. I am now happy to report that for the right situation it would!

I would highly recommend those more adventurous with a good, stock, high clearance 4WD vehicle with LT type rated tires to strongly consider this one. It's a winner! :D
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Dec 23 2011
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 Gilbert, AZ
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4x4 Trip45.00 Miles 3,412 AEG
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This is a great 4x4 day trip. I first did this route in 1998 with my dad. I still enjoy doing this scenic loop and having great company to join you makes for a perfect outing. This day was all about Hank and I was glad to provide the warm transportation. Finding the old cabin near the end of the route was the icing on the cake. I love old Arizona history. It was great to finally meet you, Angela. Thanks for putting this one together, Hank. It was a fun day! Cold but fun.

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Dec 23 2011
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 Phoenix, AZ
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4x4 Trip48.60 Miles 6,030 AEG
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I've never really been on a 4x4 trip but I can tell you, it's a whole lot of fun when YOU don't have to do the driving. I managed to get the day off once again so Hank's record remains intact. My only charge for this excursion was a Christmas-look for myself and to bring my camera. Well I can do that without batting an eye. :D

We met Eric along the 60 and loaded up our minimal gear. The vehicle was nice and clean and warm. Before you knew it we were on 172 heading toward
(1) Roblas Butte which is not too far before Elephant Arch. And though we were shaded by the Butte, Hank was able to snap a pretty good picture using a slightly increased exposure. And then it was on to the
(2) Elephant Arch. To our right was the creek with some fall color and to our left was the Arch with the winter sun shining on it :D .

At (3) Byous Butte we didn't quite get the sun shining on the Butte as the sun was hiding behind a light but big cloud. Before reaching Hackberry TH,
(4) Eric showed us a "creek/drainage to waterfall hike" he had done so we added that to the list. Apparently this hike goes to the east? and north? and gets close to FR172 so you'll have to stay tuned for that hike description :wrt: . Next up was
(5) Hackberry TH , also the TH you can use to go to Millsite Canyon which was already on my list as it looks pretty scenic.

Coming in at
(6) was the Woodbury TH where we had done our CatClaw Revenge back in March 2009 http://hikearizona.com/photoset.php?ID=7550. Then the fun part of the 4x4 trip really got in gear as we made our way to the
(7) Rogers Trough TH. There's that one really tight corner that Eric made even tighter by hugging it over some deep sand. I didn't think there was any way he would get it on the first try but he did : app : and it was so cool :DANCE: (I was riding on that side). There were a few cars at the lot and some limited snow on the ground. I re-acquainted myself with the look of Iron Mountain.

We then re-traced our route a bit back to FR650 for the second part of our journey. This part of the road definitely got rougher. There were lots of camping sites along the first part of FR650 as we made our way toward Montana Mountain. Our next TH
(8) Reavis Canyon Trail #509 North End was our coldest and windiest of the stops. In fact, Hank's camera and tripod took a header :stretch: into the dirt as the wind blew it over. Fortunately, no damage was done and we moved the camera equipment near the Xterra to use as a windbreak. Needless to say, we were quite happy to be getting back into the truck.

On this northeastern section and near the high point of Montana Mountain, Eric did encounter some icy road conditions but not too bad. The views toward the snow-topped Sierra Ancha were just amazing :y: Eric was able to point out Black Mesa where they had been the week before and Rockinstraw Mountain where they will be going this week. Also as we made our way down, you could see the results :( of the severe burn from this summer's fire as there were hardly any remnant trees coming up from the ground on the mountainside to the north of us. It definitely looked like scorched earth.

It was a bit of a tricky drive as we made our way toward stop
# (9) Spencer Spring Trail #275. Eric and I thot we saw a viewpoint to hike toward the north but alas, there were limited views. So it was back in the truck and onto stop
(10) Rock Creek Trail #195 though you couldn't see much from here as this side of the hill had been burnt pretty good.

And now after curving around the side of the mountain before coming out on the south side where you could see the valley below, it was a matter of switchbacking and switchbacking and switchbacking down to the floor. You could see the various switchbacks from above which was pretty cool; but what we also spotted was some sort of structure too and when we came to the fork in the road, we headed northeast?. It was really a rough road but only for 1/2 mile or so. Needless to say we were delighted at what we saw :DANCE: and thus stop
(11) Wood Camp Cabin was added to this Loop http://hikearizona.com/photo.php?ZIP=228134.

Who knew we would find the perfect snack spot (it would have been our lunch spot but we were making such good time, it became our snack spot before an early dinner). But first, we would have to look around where we found all sorts of stuff like a well and a corral and a trough. Eric noticed some tailings so we investigated that. I walked up the highside of the creek bed and eureka, I found the adit : app : . I got on the ground so that I could look in to check it out. It smelled like phosphorous :-k .

Back on the road again, the boys contemplated that maybe you wouldn't necessarily need a 4-wheel for this part of the road but they would soon discover that 4WD would be needed even for this portion. Next we got to cross into and through a creek (to get to the other side of course ;) ) where we decided to stop to let some ATVers through. We got out to take some movies and photos. After enjoying the scenery, we loaded up and headed toward our last stop
(12) Reavis Canyon Trail #509 - South End. This is a very pretty area :) so we walked around the creek for just a bit before finishing our journey home.

Rather than take the highway home we took the Hewitt Station road back to where we met up with FR172. We finished our day with the Fish Fry at Red Sage Restaurant. :thanx: guys for taking me along. It was great to re-visit some old countryside as well as seeing new countryside. Between this and my Verde Canyon Train (Claus Express) ride http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2593703735076.127918.1629171654&type=1&l=4e5ce8b8eb I got to see a lot of AZ in a couple days.

PS I almost forgot. We will have lots of video footage as Eric had his camcorder on tibbermode and I was doing my usual mixture of photos and videos.

1-4-2012
Video 1: http://youtu.be/m-Jv-smN4WY The first part of the Loop includes trail heads for Roblas Butte, Elephant Arch, a creek/drainage future hike description, Hackberry/Millsite, and Woodbury finishing off at Rogers Trough.
Video 2: http://youtu.be/sxyEOXt1l4U Rogers Trough Trailhead back to FR650 along Montana Mountain and down to FR172 with a side trip to Woods Camp Cabin. This part of the drive included trailhead stops at Reavis Canyon Trail 509 North, Spencer Spring Trail, and Rock Creek Trail.
Video 3: http://youtu.be/f3riJqKujqE At and around Wood Camp Cabin including the adit. From here we drove to the last TH on the Hewitt Canyon Loop at Reavis Canyon Trail South.
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