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Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic Mountains - 22 members in 51 triplogs have rated this an average 4.1 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Feb 20 2021
Tortoise_Hiker
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Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic MountainsPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking12.60 Miles 2,128 AEG
Hiking12.60 Miles   7 Hrs   13 Mns   1.75 mph
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I talked Bruce and Joe into letting me join them for a hike. Bruce picked one in my mileage range that I hadn’t done before. It was nice to get out with the boys again. Trail is in pretty good shape with cairns here and there to keep you from taking burrow trails by mistake. We did see burrows three different times. Some nice cacti and lots of jojoba in the area. A nice area and pretty clean for being so close to town. Nice summit and lunch spot. Great views, weather, and company!! Need to get out with these gents more often! Of course, like HAZ, they rock!
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Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic MountainsPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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joebartels
Hiking12.50 Miles 2,232 AEG
Hiking12.50 Miles   7 Hrs   12 Mns   2.05 mph
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Team Grandpa allowed me into the club, sans credentials. The first 1.5 miles were cold without a golden ray of sun. Shockingly noticed tiny clear water pools, glorified puddles, in the creekbed of Cottonwood Creek. Walkin' Jim is aptly named on the north side of the loop we hiked in on, gaining a whopping 150-ft in 1.5 miles.

About a third of this hike is in the Hells Canyon Wilderness. While I never lose sleep over the area, it always leaves me thinking, "that was pretty cool". Being the closest wilderness to home, it loses brownie points right outta the starting gate. There's just some sick reset to life by getting further away and punishing your muscles silly. Overkill on the build-up, but damn, the topography out here intrigues.

Around 3 miles in the tread would be considered mild rocky by anti-Y-Bar strollers. Bruce and I hiked this last April at the tail end of a super bloom, where I wrote, "By two and a half miles in there was Owl Clover at least every two yards". Since so little rain has occurred since then, I anticipated a total letdown. It was not a letdown, but I was perplexed why. The difference was half of that hike was needle-sharp foxtail torture, trying to snag Mill & Pikes peaks. Without further ado, short-n-boring trail hikes slathered in olive drab are my new favorites! Well... in perfect weather, with decent company anyhow.

After last week's hit lunch, I brought half an Italian wrap for an early lunch at Peak 3465. More of a chore vs. the savory smoked-chicken bacon wrap last week.

It would appear Bob has been working overtime. The final ~four miles, the semi-challenging navigational segment, on the south side of the loop is cairned very well.
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a lackluster instance of Indian paintbrush & 3 Wiry Lotus
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Peak 3465 via the Jims, AZ 
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Hiking13.08 Miles 2,148 AEG
Hiking13.08 Miles   7 Hrs   13 Mns   2.05 mph
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This is a favorite of mine close to the valley. You get the feeling of remoteness, without a long drive. It's a nice leg stretcher with the roller coaster of the Walkin' Jim Loop. It also has enough elevation gain on the Big Jim Trail and the the mild off trail to Peak 3465 to get the heart beating.

Denny was kind enough to fit us into his schedule, so the Stooges were together again. It was a brisk start to the day until the orb rose high enough in the sky.

We almost always see wild burros and this hike was the same. 3 separate groups were seen.

We took a break for an early lunch on top of 3465. I really enjoy the 360's from up there.

On the way back we ran in to 2 groups climbing Big Jim to the peak. I think this was the first time I've seen people on this section.

good to get the gang back together again.
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Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic MountainsPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking6.50 Miles 450 AEG
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We saw many wild burros, and we didn’t make it! Started counter clockwise a bit late at 8:45, and at about 2 miles in we came across a large pack (at least 10 with some young ones) of wild burros on the trail. We tried to go around them in the wash, but there were another two in the wash. We didn’t want to go too far off the trail because we were a little worried about losing it based on the other comments. We waited for a while to see if they would move, but they seemed intent on grazing. We didn’t have cell service to research, and we aren’t familiar with horses, so we decided it would be best to turn around and try the loop in the opposite direction. Once we got back to the start, we went about a mile in. We saw another burro alone! This seemed much more manageable to get past. However, the burro seemed to be taking the trail towards us! We were within about 20 yards and the burro started honking and braying, which spooked us pretty bad! We had seen no one on the trail, but heard gunshots the whole time, which got louder as we approached this burro. For a second, we thought the burro was shot, but then we noticed it getting closer to us and continually making noises...we turned back. If you are less afraid of burros than us, than this would be a great hike! It’s really remote and quiet, but there’s quite a bit of burro droppings and tracks on the trail, so I think that they frequent the trail.
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Apr 19 2020
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 Phoenix, AZ
Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic MountainsPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking11.26 Miles 2,055 AEG
Hiking11.26 Miles   6 Hrs      2.11 mph
2,055 ft AEG      40 Mns Break
 
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Last January, a friend hid a geocache out this way. Finding it entails taking the Walkin' Jim Trail and Big Jim Trail to the top of Peak 3465 in Hells Canyon Wilderness. It's a field puzzle so you need to find certain rock formations, or "demons" on the way to find where the cache is actually hidden (outside the wilderness). Unfortunately, I missed a demon so made this an out and back looking for it on my return.

The trailhead was fairly full, mostly from trucks with their ATV trailers. I rode my motorcycle out so didn't have any problem finding a place to park.

The trails were in better condition than I remember them being the last time I was out this way, over ten years ago. The Walkin' Jim trail is easy to follow and there was a fair bit of wild flowers. There was a lot of pools with some trickle in Cottonwood Creek, water wouldn't be an issue on an overnight. At the junction of Walkin' Jim and Big Jim trails, I passed a couple out with their dog. They must have done the loop or turned back because I didn't see them again.

Big Jim trail is a bit rougher than Walkin' Jim, especially once it starts climbing. The climb is steep at times; my lack of fitness really showed. The trail wasn't difficult to follow until the last push to the summit where it was more difficult to spot the cairns pointing the way.

The views along the way and at the top are spectacular and kept the walk most enjoyable.

On the way back, I saw two separate hikers. One was an elderly man that either took a tumble and bloodied his face, or he just got a nose bleed. He wasn't looking the best but was near the trailhead and moving fine.
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Apr 17 2020
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Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic MountainsPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking13.50 Miles 2,600 AEG
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When people did the Walking Jim Loop, I've heard nothing but good things. When people did 3465, I heard nothing but good things. It's been on my List for years to do both. With the clock ticking on our rising temps, I made a point to get this one in, especially since the bloom is so nice out there. Besides that, I wanted some mileage and elevation since I'm having a very off week. I'm on the Patch, but still even with that, there's been a lot of low energy, restlessness and lack of motivation. At least the Patch is keeping me awake and out of bed. Should be better hopefully in a few weeks. This kind of hike is going to help, a LOT. And thanks to Joe's triplog, I made sure to put the gators on when the legs got unzipped. Good Call. :sweat:

I arrived just before sunrise to one other car in the lot. The couple belonging to the car had camp chairs set up across the road and were enjoying the sunrise. They were the only people I saw all day. When I got back to the lot, I was the only vehicle. Heard some distant shooting at times and there was traffic noise towards the beginning and end. This Hike totally had me forgetting about civilization for awhile. Can't beat that.

What an amazing trail. What an amazing hike. What an amazing day. Water in the creek, rolling hills of purple and blue, with some white making an appearance too. Yellow was still there and the Ocotillo and Cholla were beginning to share. Birds called, flirted and flitted and a well hung Squirrel feasted on Spring. The Butterflies abounded and sometimes landed. There were some new ones today. The Easter Bunny made a post holiday appearance. At least it was alive, the Kangaroo Rat was not so lucky. It was a 3 Rattlesnake Day, two different species, one of which was a new one for me, finally. The first one didn't rattle, but it didn't matter as his mouth was full and he was more worried about finishing breakfast in peace. The second one rattled, but the rattle was pretty small and quiet. He was nice too and just crawled under a rock. The third one was just a teenager, maybe, and if I hadn't been super vigilant at that point and spotted his head, I probably would have smoked right by him and never knew it. He never moved a muscle and that tiny button wasn't capable of much sound. And the Trail was so nice that even Asses liked it. Clouds made for great skies. I liked the wind in the afternoon, the gnats hated it. It kept the temps pretty nice too. Breaks were shorter than normal since I wasn't including oxygen sticks, but the photography early on used up a lot of time. Just so much to see, do and enjoy. I was tired at the end, but finished pretty strong still.

What else is there to say, just a great day....
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The Owl Clover and Lupine is insane, but probably will be about done in a week at these temps. The Hedgehogs are still showing off nicely and now the Cholla and Ocotillo are getting into the game, with the Prickly Pear not far behind. Brittlebush is still showy in spots. Palo Verde is a week or two away from being glorious, but a few were hinting. Lots of groupings of flea bane and other whites in places as well.

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Apr 13 2020
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Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic MountainsPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking12.50 Miles 2,621 AEG
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I was looking for a hike that wasn't too far away, had some wildflowers, and that probably wouldn't have many people on it, and after reading the triplogs from @joebartels and @The_Eagle from last weekend, I decided to head out and hike up to Peak 3465. Chris from Tucson joined me, and it was her first time in this area.

It turned out to be a great hike: the weather was super; there were LOTS of wildflowers; and we saw 2 wild burros, one rattlesnake, and ZERO other humans.

We hiked the Walkin' Jim Trail in a CCW fashion, and took a side trip up to Peak 3465 on the Big Jim Trail. Someone has done a good job of trail maintenance on the Walkin' Jim Trail -- the trail is now easy to follow on the south side of the loop.

We saw the diamondback rattler about a mile or so before we got back to the TH. I heard a rattle, but couldn't tell where it was coming from, and Chris spotted the viper in a bush right off the trail. If the snake had kept quiet we would have walked past it without seeing it...but the snake decided to be ornery for whatever reason.

Here is a short video that Chris took of the rattler wagging its tail: [ youtube video ]
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There was lots and lots of owl clover throughout the entire hike. There was also lots of strawberry hedgehog blooming throughout the hike. Brittlebush, lupine, globemallow, and fairy duster were also quite prevalent in various parts of the hike.
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Apr 11 2020
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Walkin/Big Jim - 3465 - Mill - Jeep Jeep Loop, AZ 
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Hiking17.69 Miles 3,354 AEG
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By two and a half miles in there was Owl Clover at least every two yards. Often fields. In retrospect, the only voids were the peaks and spotty above 2,500 ft.

The hike along Walkin' Jim Loop Trail then Big Jim Trail to 3,465 and back down was storybook. The off-trail hike to Mill started as a light bushwhack and avoiding cactus with sure footing. Foxtail we'd seen along the on-trail hike was now our world.

We headed up to Mill from the Pikes-Mill Saddle. Mill ends through a cholla minefield the final 50-100 yards. Mill, aka Cholla Ball Peak, is not a comfortable break spot with unfriendlies and jagged rock. Recharging with a lunchbreak was necessary and this was the best option. It is a nice spot to admire the intense terrain views with a nice backdrop of a lake in a desert. Defoxtailification surrounded by the bastards paid off in three glorious steps back to the cholla minefield.

We squabbled over the planned continuation to Pikes, then agreed to abort directly down to the beautiful jeep road. In figuring out the route we seriously irritated a hawk. It kept circling and divebombing Bruce from behind. He was a good sport offering his life as I failed to video the situation. With video off, the mock speed cluster of atoms left a lasting impression diving through two saguaros.

Off-trail down to the jeep road was dicey. Loose terrain had a joy factor of clueless footing through knee-deep grass loaded with various undesirables. Luckily no hidden striking snakes.

Returned on jeep roads back to the southern leg of Walkin' Jim Loop Trail. A mile after talking about Bob and the remarkable condition of the trail we met Bob raking the trail.
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Every Wildflower I've seen this year, typically intense.
Owl Clover and Lupine are current standouts. Possibly peaking right. Possibly fading quick, depending on that fat ol' sun.
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Walking/Big Jim - 3465 - Mill - Jeep Jeep Loop, AZ 
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Hiking17.83 Miles 3,408 AEG
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Owl Clover, Lupine, Brittle Bush, Mariposa Lilly, Desert Marigold, Desert Chicory, and more Owl Clover. Also plenty of pesky Foxtail just becoming mature for the year.

Peak 3465 and the Walking Jim/Big Jim trails are a close go to favorite for me. I first did these trails more than 10 years ago, when route finding was a problem. Route finding is no longer an issue. The north portion of the Walking Jim Loop is easy to follow. Did I mention Owl Clover.

Big Jim Trail to Peak 3465 is also easy to follow. My Son and I cairned a route from the saddle to 3465 more than 10 years ago. It's a well worn path now.

I love the views from Peak 3465. They never get old.

We descend 3465 and then make our way up to Mill. The foxtails are frickin' irritating.

Lunch at the top of Mill while Joe cleaned his socks.
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Pikes Peak was bypassed as someone had enough of the foxtails.
I'll still need to make my way back to do this one. That was sooooo close.

Joe used me as a crash test dummy for a hawk that wanted to take off my head... repeatedly. He claims he could not get the video, as the hawk got closer with each dive bomb.

We took the steep westerly descent from the Mill/Pikes Peak Saddle. The tall friendly grass hid rocks and things with rattles.

It was nice to hit some of the old mine/jeep roads as the foxtail dug deeper into my socks. Pikes Peak teased me as we hiked around it.

We ran into the Lord of the Walking/Big/Little Jim hikes, @bobhike.
He was doing trail maintenance. It's his creation and hike description that got me out there many years ago.

No burros, one pesky hawk, buzzards, and one slithering Kingsnake were the only wild life spotted. Bob was the only human we crossed paths with.

The weather was perfect.
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Hieroglyphics - 3465 Pikes Mill peaks, AZ 
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LindaAnn
Hiking14.87 Miles 3,465 AEG
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I like to visit these peaks once a year before the weather gets too warm, and today seemed like a good day to get them checked off the list. We got started a little after 0800 and headed west on Walkin' Jim trail. Easy hiking, with the trail generally easy to follow. Turned right onto Big Jim Trail and took it up to 3465. The trail from the saddle up to the summit has become more defined, and it's now pretty easy to avoid scrambling through the rocks just below the summit--there's now a clear path that stays just below those rocks. Short break at the summit before heading back down.

We turned off Big Jim and headed down to the wash to make our way over to Pikes and Mill. This has become more overgrown since last winter and the ridge heading west up from the wash was very brushy compared to prior trips. Slow progress through here, but I generally stayed pretty close to the right of the ridge and once up top, it was just a matter of avoiding the endless cholla on the way over to the peaks. Visited Pikes first, then Mill, before heading back down the ridge and through the wash. Once back on Big Jim, we headed over to Walkin' Jim to complete the loop.

As usual, the southern half of Walkin' Jim is much more vague and difficult to follow. Got off track in a couple of places, but we were able to find the trail again quickly each time. Took the shortcut near the end to shave off a chunk of distance around a hill. Finished up close to 1730. Nice day for this one, although it was a little warm due to the lack of breeze almost the entire time.
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Hiking11.90 Miles 2,657 AEG
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A small group of us went out and did this hike today. We did the Walkin' Jim Loop CCW, and along the way went up to Peak 3465 on the Big Jim Trail.

In the first mile or so of the hike we saw a group of about 15 wild burros -- that was the largest group of burros that I have seen while hiking in this area.

This area is underrated imho, and I enjoy hiking out there!

After the hike we stopped off at the Scorpion Bay Grill, right on Lake Pleasant -- the food and beverages are good, and the ambiance is great!
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Jan 04 2020
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Hike to the Hieroglyphics high point via the Peak 3465 route to avoid the long drive. After the approach, I dropped down from the saddle east of Peak 3465, heading north towards Burro Flats. Off trail down to the bottom of the drainage then took a faint trail northwest about 3/4 mile, then off trail up the east slopes of Peak 3651 to the summit. Relatively easy hiking without too much bushwhack, mostly knee-high brush and grass (gaiters were nice). Bagged Peak 3465 on the way back. Multiple burro sightings.
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Peak 3465 - Pikes Peak - Mill, AZ 
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DixieFlyer
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I was looking for a hike that had some distance and elevation gain, and also offered some peaks to bag. I decided to head to the Hieroglyphic Mountains near Lake Pleasant and do this hike. I had hiked up to Peak 3465 twice before, but had never done Pikes Peak(3,177') or Mill(3,189') before. Pikes and Mill were off-trail, and I stolecopied tracks that @LindaAnn and @trekkin_gecko uploaded from their hike to these 2 peaks back in January of this year.

From the trailhead, I started out on the Walkin Jim trail, and did the loop CCW. Once I got to the Big Jim Trail junction, I took the Big Jim Trail up to Peak 3465. It was a fun scramble up to the summit of Peak 3465. On the way back down, a short distance before getting back to the Walkin Jim trail, I took off on an off-trail jaunt up to Pikes and Mill. I pretty closely followed the route that @LindaAnn and @trekkin_gecko used. It was a little steep and slippery for part of the hike up and down, but it wasn't too bad of a bushwhack. Once on top it was easy following a ridgeline up to Pikes Peak first, and then to Mill. I took the same route back down to the Big Jim Trail, and then went back to the Walkin Jim trail. Once back to the Walkin Jim trail, I continued on the loop back to the TH. Route finding on the southern portion of the Walkin Jim trail was a bit of a challenge at times: the trail was often more faint than it was on the northern section of the trail and there weren't as many cairns. I got off track a few times, and I was glad that I had a GPS track to follow.

On the way back on the southern part of the Walkin Jim trail I saw 7 burros, and heard a lot more. I have seen wild burros each of the 3 times that I have hiked the southern section of the Walkin Jim Trail, but have never seen any on the northern section.

In the morning, on the northern section of the Walkin Jim Trail I came across a bovine bull standing in the middle of the trail. I stopped and watched him for a few minutes, hoping that he would move. He eventually moved about 10 feet off the trail and stopped. I decided to just circle around him and continue on my way -- fortunately the bull did not seem ornery. I think that I would rather deal with a bear or a mountain lion than a really mean domestic bull.

Once on top of the ridge connecting Pikes and Mill, it was an easy walkup to get up to Pikes Peak. There was a bit of scrambling to get on top of Mill, and I had to make my way through a cholla mine field on my way up to the Mill summit. There were a couple of memorials to deceased hikers on Pikes Peak, which was interesting to see.
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Jan 13 2019
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Hieroglyphics - 3465 Pikes Mill peaks, AZ 
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Hiking14.69 Miles 3,445 AEG
Hiking14.69 Miles   8 Hrs   54 Mns   1.88 mph
3,445 ft AEG   1 Hour   5 Mns Break
 
We got started around 7:15am, just light enough to not need a headlamp. Headed out on Walkin' Jim trail. Lots of burro evidence, but none seen. With the grass growing in, the trail gets faint in places, but was overall pretty easy to follow. We made good time to Big Jim Trail then headed up to 3465. Trail was a little harder to spot in a few places, but we made it up without incident. Great views all around, with lots of snow cover on the northern horizon. It was still pretty early, so we only took a short break before heading back down. We ran across a group of 4 hikers near the bottom, but I don't think they were planning on heading up to the summit. Before the end of Big Jim, we cut southwest on a pretty good use path over to the next wash, then headed west to the ridge that leads up to Pikes. On the ridge, it's best to stay just barely to the right, basically hugging the rocks the entire way; we ended up a little too far to the right and were treated to more brush and a steeper hike up than necessary. Once we topped out, it's a fairly easy hike south to Pikes. We stopped there for a minute, then headed back down and continued north to Mill. Again, I like the easy scramble up to Mill, and the view gives a unique perspective of the sheer side of 3465. Once back down from Mill, we took a short lunch break, then headed back down the ridge. On the way back down, we did a much better job of sticking close to the ridgeline, and it was an easier descent. We got back to Big Jim, then continued the Walkin' Jim loop. The southern half of Walkin' Jim was much more difficult to follow, and we had to stop and look around for the next hint of trail or a cairn many times. We saw one burro on the return. Shortly before the end of the trail, it turns sharply north to circle around the north side of the hill directly west of the parking lot; there is a shortcut that cuts across the south end of the hill and eliminates some unnecessary mileage. We took that shortcut since we have both done the official trail before. Perfect weather all day today, and a nice day to do some off trail desert hiking.
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Jan 13 2019
trekkin_gecko
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63 female
 Joined Nov 17 2008
 phoenix, az
Hieroglyphics - 3465 Pikes Mill peaks, AZ 
Hieroglyphics - 3465 Pikes Mill peaks, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jan 13 2019
trekkin_gecko
Hiking14.66 Miles 3,444 AEG
Hiking14.66 Miles   8 Hrs   54 Mns   1.81 mph
3,444 ft AEG      49 Mns Break
 
1st trip
got an invite from linda to hike 3465 and a couple of other peaks nearby
really liked 3465 when i hiked it with johnlp a few years ago
just don't get over this way very often
we got going before sunrise
nice enough temps, a little damp due to overnight rains
some nice clouds over lake pleasant and the bradshaw mountains
walkin' jim to big jim and up to 3465
great views from there
dropped back down then took a faint use trail to a wash, then a ridgeline to the saddle between pikes and mill
headed first to pikes and checked out summit views and the memorial
back to the saddle then northeast to mill
nice little scramble to get up the last little bit
too bad we didn't know there was a benchmark up there
easy off trail up high
took a lunch break after mill
linda found her original route back down
much better footing and an easier grade
she also let me use one of her hiking poles which made a big difference on the descent - thank you!
finished out the loop with one little shortcut
nice day, good company and two new peaks!
needed to reclaim some off trail credibility :lol:
using linda's stats, although mine are close
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Jan 12 2019
toddak
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56 male
 Joined Nov 15 2005
 Puhoynix, AZ
Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic MountainsPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 12 2019
toddak
Hiking14.00 Miles 2,500 AEG
Hiking14.00 Miles   7 Hrs      2.00 mph
2,500 ft AEG
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1st trip
Partners none no partners
A very fine peak hike
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Mar 08 2018
DixieFlyer
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 Fountain Hills,
Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic MountainsPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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DixieFlyer
Hiking12.60 Miles 2,600 AEG
Hiking12.60 Miles   7 Hrs   23 Mns   2.42 mph
2,600 ft AEG   2 Hrs   11 Mns Break
 
Partners none no partners
It was Horace Greeley who once said "Go west young man"! With that in mind, Tracie, my intrepid hiking partner, and I decided to venture to the West Valley and hike up to Peak 3465.

We followed the Walkin' Jim Trail in a counterclockwise direction, and we took the Big Jim Trail to and from the summit of Peak 3465. The hike was mostly through typical desert vegetation, and the views at the top were pretty cool. The trails were mostly easy to follow, but I was glad that I had downloaded the GPS track for the official route.

At the top I signed the log book, and noticed that hikerdw had signed it about 3 weeks prior.

On the hike we saw 6 wild burros, one rabbit, and no humans -- that ratio was pretty good imho!
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Wildflowers Observation None
I was hoping to see some wildflowers, but there were none, save for some flowering ocotillos

dry Walkin' Jim Spring Dry Dry
we crossed some washes several times on the Walkin' Jim Trail, but they were dry as a bone
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Feb 17 2018
hikerdw
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62 male
 Joined Aug 16 2009
 Mesa,AZ
Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic MountainsPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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hikerdw
Hiking12.26 Miles 2,409 AEG
Hiking12.26 Miles   5 Hrs   44 Mns   2.49 mph
2,409 ft AEG      49 Mns Break
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1st trip
Linked none no linked trail guides
Partners none no partners
Ryan and I completed some unfinished business left open back in 2016. Could not have asked for better weather, saw no other hikers on the trails the entire day, did see lots of burros, and with the recent rain the desert was alive. Once at the summit we signed the register and took a relaxing lunch break under a small Palo Verde tree before making the trek back down to complete the loop.
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Dec 16 2017
LindaAnn
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 Joined Dec 24 2007
 Ahwatukee, AZ
Hieroglyphics - 3465 Pikes & Mill, AZ 
Hieroglyphics - 3465 Pikes & Mill, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Dec 16 2017
LindaAnn
Hiking15.26 Miles 3,596 AEG
Hiking15.26 Miles   10 Hrs   3 Mns   1.82 mph
3,596 ft AEG   1 Hour   41 Mns Break
 
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Started around 7:00am to a great sunrise. Passed a group of burros a few miles in, got some pics of them, then headed over to 3465. Had an early lunch at the top, then headed back down then over towards Pikes. I had pulled together a rough route, which we followed for a short distance, then climbed up a small hill for a better view, and adjusted the route a little more to the north and up the most gradual ridge we could see. It was the right call, with a fairly easy ascent. From the top we curved to the west and south over to Pikes. Got some pics, then followed the ridge north to Mill. It was a fun easy scramble up to Mill, which I enjoyed. Heading back down, I wanted to take the same ridge back down, others wanted to contour down the drainage on the north side of the ridge. We survived, but I think about halfway down, I may have said something like "I told you so." Once back on the trail, we continued along the Walkin Jim loop, making one shortcut not too far from the end, finishing up a little after 5:00. Great day, great weather, no other people seen all day.
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Dec 16 2017
The_N
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 Payson, AZ
Hieroglyphics - 3465 Pikes & Mill, AZ 
Hieroglyphics - 3465 Pikes & Mill, AZ
 
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The_N
Hiking15.26 Miles 3,596 AEG
Hiking15.26 Miles   10 Hrs   3 Mns   1.82 mph
3,596 ft AEG   1 Hour   41 Mns Break
 no routes
1st trip
I'd never set foot on these trails before this trip, but a couple of desert peaks sounded good. Chilly start at sunrise for my underdressed self. I was the only one wearing shorts today, unfortunately. We made our way along Walkin' Jim, crossed paths with a few burros and started up 3465. Nice trail and easy to follow route to the summit. The views were better than I anticipated. Rugged peaks and colorful geology in all directions. The lake actually looks pleasant from up here. We soaked it all in during brunch. Once back in the flatlands, the off-trail fun began. We climbed a hill and eyeballed a route onto the ridge. We picked a winner. It was much easier than it looked from that hill. We strolled along the ridgeline over to Pike's, then back West along the ridge over to Mill. Both were worthy destinations. Mill was fun and required navigating through a steep, loose cholla field, then a narrow, rocky 'mini ridge' just before the top. Heading back down, I spotted the 'adventurous route' for the day and opted for new scenery, instead of returning the way we arrived, and convinced Linda to follow. The descent we ended up with was steep and loose, but complaining was kept to a minimum. We arrived at the drainage safely and followed it back to the trail to finish out the loop. Weather stayed perfect all day and we didn't encounter a single hiker throughout. I found this place to be surprisingly scnenic. Add some off-trail fun and it makes for a great day.
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