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Sep 28 2019
wallyfrack
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Woodbury Trail #114Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Hiking14.90 Miles 3,666 AEG
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Since the burn started near the junction of FR172 & FR172A I wanted to go out there and see what it looked like. First off FR172 & FR172A are in really good shape. The rains were not as heavy over there. Even the low spot crossing Queen Creek is leveled. I decided on parking at the Woodbury Trailhead and hiking up to Rogers Ridge. I wanted to hike the ridge before but the choked vegetation was not alluring. The ridge is an easy go now but you will pick up lots of soot along the way. I went up to Peak 5106 to look for the bench mark one more time but no luck. Hiking along the Ridge is a good way to take in the views. Mostly brush and grass were burned in this area so the recovery should be much better. I looked for the "lost Dutchman Mine" from Jack San Felice's Book but upon further evidence I was at another prospect above the site. The view of Weavers Needle from the prospect is close to the drawing that's made it rounds. Eventually I made my way toward Rogers Canyon. The Rogers Spring area did not burn and I saw a whitetail doe there. The wash above Rogers Spring was cleared out so I took that heading back for a while. Took a detour to look for the Lobb Mine which wasn't much of anything and found a dead deer while making my way down to Rogers Canyon. Rogers Canyon trail is okay but there is a lot of sediment around the creek crossings which is expected. I saw one hiker near Rogers Trough trailhead and passed no cars or OHVs on FR172 in or out. Apparently people are staying away from this area but the roads are good and the trails not too bad. Still optimistic...
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Apr 13 2019
AndrewAZ
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Rogers Canyon Trail #110Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Hiking20.00 Miles
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Rogers Trough TH to go up Rogers Canyon to Angel Basin, followed by Frog Tanks trail to Reavis 109 (via Plow Saddle), and then 109 all the way back to the TH. My map says that's 20 miles, which seems high, but who am I to argue with the map.

At the register, I counted at least 40 people in April who had signed in with the destination of Utah. I think there were 12 on the 12th alone. That is a remarkable number of thru-hikers. I assume most of them will finish since they made it through the worst parts already.

Frog Tanks Trail was a little brushy/thorny in spots, but mostly easy to follow thanks to many cairns. There was one spot where the trail disappeared into a mudhole surrounded by a thorn thicket, though. I eventually found the trail again, but I'm still not sure how it connected in-between.

On the second big climb of Frog Tanks, I met a rattlesnake and a little later a large gopher snake. The rattlesnake wasn't pleased to see me, and the feeling was mutual. He eventually moved off the trail, but my pace afterwards suffered as every stick near the trail seemed to be a rattlesnake.

Until I reached the Reavis Gap intersection, I had only met one other hiker. He was doing a meandering 5-day journey through the Superstitions, which made me envious. There were quite a few people in the meadows between Reavis Gap and the ranch site, although none appeared to be thru-hikers.

I sat under a tree near the ranch site for my second break, and I watched a number of deer come down off the hill to eat. However, they all got into the one functional corral/pen where horses have eaten all the grass down to bare dirt. A giant wilderness area and a large meadow filled with soft, lush, green grass... and five deer come down and get into the fenced pen to eat what little remains. Typical. I did get to see one of those deer clothesline himself spectacularly when some new hikers came through and startled him and he didn't realize that side of the pen had a very high wire.

When I got back to the TH, there was the usual assortment of pickups and SUVS... and a 3rd gen Dodge Durango with street tires. I assume they come in 4x4, but given the length, low clearance, automatic transmission, and tires, that must've been a slow, cautious drive up. I was certainly thankful to have serious tires, clearance, and low-range 4x4 to cruise off the mountain.

Overall, there was water everywhere, everything was green and lush, and the temperature was ideal. If I didn't have work deadlines coming up, I'd copy the hiker I met and get out there for 5 days.
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Jan 27 2019
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Rogers Canyon Ruins, AZ 
Rogers Canyon Ruins, AZ
 
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Hiking4.29 Miles 133 AEG
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Fun Hike today to the Rogers Canyon Ruins. There were 5 or 6 vehicles parked at the Rogers Trough trailhead when we got there at about 10:30. We passed two groups of backpakers on our way to the ruins and another 3 or 4 pairs of hikers. There was another group of hikers at the site when we got there but they were just getting ready to leave so we had the site all to ourselves for the half hour we stayed and explored. The mud that was used for construction seemed extremely hard. Felt more like concrete than mud if you ask me.

Rogers creek had copious amounts of clear running water the entire length of the hike.

The longest part was the drive to the Rogers Trough trailhead. The drive was very scenic and bumpy with lots of ORVs kicking up a of dust on the road. We drove a 2 wheel drive pickup and except for that last hairpin turn (where I had to do a little reversing) we had no problems. I would not attempt this drive without a 4x4 if there was a recent rain or a hint of rain in the forecast

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copious amounts of clear running water the entire length of the hike
Jan 20 2019
nathanbrisk
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Rogers Canyon - JF Trail LoopGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Backpack14.68 Miles 2,905 AEG
Backpack14.68 Miles   7 Hrs   20 Mns   2.24 mph
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Drove in to the Woodbury trailhead because I don't trust my AWD Saturn Vue to get to Rogers Trough trailhead.

We did this loop in reverse--starting from the Woodbury trailhead and taking the loop to the west.

Emma, Bruce the pooch and I got started on the trail at about 8am. It's the first time I haven't lost the trail immediately from the Woodbury Trail/JF Trail junction . . . some kind soul erected a few cairns, so we were good to go. Pruned thorny branches as I went . . . actually broke my pruners! Hiking up to Tortilla pass was challenging per usual. Weather was perfect. Clear, treatable pools were encountered on the JF Trail south of Rogers Canyon Trail junction. HIking down into the canyon, the brush was extremely overgrown. Unfortunately, by this time I had already broken the pruners . . .

I'm pretty stoked! I've been to this area several times, but logistics never worked out to see the ruins. Got to see them this time! Awesome :)

The creek beside Angel Basin was half-full and flowing. This particular evening happened to include a complete lunar eclipse as well. That was a treat.

It's a fun section of slight bouldering going NE on Rogers Canyon Trail past the cliff dwellings. Once we rolled in to Rogers Trough Trailhead, we needed to hike the road for about 2 miles to join the Woodbury Trail to the JF Trail and back to the Woodbury Trailhead.





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Dec 07 2018
bretinthewild
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 Phoenix, AZ
Miles TH to Rogers Canyon, AZ 
Miles TH to Rogers Canyon, AZ
 
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Made the best out of a couple unfortunate situations this weekend. Our original plan called for a big loop from Miles TH to Angel Basin on Friday (via West Pinto), then up to Reavis Ranch on Saturday (via Frog Tanks) and back to Miles TH on Sunday (via Fire Line and Campaign).

However, with all the rain Thursday night, on Friday morning my 2WD Hyundai Tucson SUV could not scale the initial muddy and slick ascent up the primitive road section of the 287A -- the part that starts just beyond the bridge. After a few minutes struggling with the mud, we decided to reverse and park next to a hunting camp, where we resigned to hike the road in the rest of the way and figure out a new plan.

Nearly 6 miles of uphill road hiking later, we caught a ride in the back of a pickup with a couple coues deer hunters for the last mile or so downhill, to their camp at the ranch.

From Miles TH, we continued on for about 5-6 miles up the West Pinto Creek trail. Lots of water in the creek, even flowing in some sections. The trees have largely dropped their leaves, which provided a nice mat to hike on, and some were still hanging on in the canopy. Lots of catclaw all along this trail that would get us all weekend, even with long pants and sleeves.

After passing connections to Cuff Button, Campaign and Spencer trails, the West Pinto trail heads up the canyon, giving you amazing views of the creek, trees and surrounding mountains. Because of the way the trail tends to take you above the creek, there are not many campsites to be found after the first couple miles. We finally made camp as the trail dropped down by the creek near Crockett Spring, where we found a spot big enough for our tent and an old fire ring. There, we ate dinner, failed to light a fire, and went to bed early.

On Saturday we decided that a loop was no longer an option. Instead, we would hang our heavy packs and do an out-and-back hike with day packs, returning that afternoon. Our goal was to see the ruins in Rogers Canyon, about 7 miles each way.

The West Pinto trail climbs and climbs until you reach the saddle of Iron Mountain. The trail goes from the creek and then almost straight uphill on one of the canyon spines, where eventually it becomes a highway through a thick forest of manzanita. We saw bear and mountain lion scat everywhere, as well as some tracks, but saw neither animal. There was a pool of water in Iron Mountain spring, which was barely flowing and full of leaves. Besides our campsite, we saw one other spot down by the creek where you could camp in this section, just before the climb begins. But otherwise it was pretty slim picking for campsites. We also did not see any other people in the West Pinto side of the canyon the entire weekend.

Up and over Iron Mountain, you get a nice view of some of the West Supes, and it drops you down pretty quickly to Rogers Trough TH. From there we took Reavis Trail and then Rogers Canyon Trail -- and hey, here are all the campsites! Haha. We made it to Rogers Spring, where we searched for the ruins for a little while, but with no luck and time running out we turned back around. I realized later we had to go further down toward Angel Basin to find them. For another time!

We made our 14 mile day hike back to camp in about 6 hours, and then grabbed our heavy packs and hiked another 3 miles back toward the trailhead to give ourselves a headstart on Sunday. We were hopeful maybe we could hitch a ride with someone on the road the next day but we couldn't be sure. We camped near the junction of West Pinto and Cuff Button trails, a nice open spot with lots of nice clear deep pools in the creek. We got a fire going and enjoyed the stars.

Sunday we woke up to frost, trudged out and hiked the road all the way back to the car, about 9 miles in all. Only saw a couple trucks on the road and neither were going our way.

The roads were way better driving out after a couple dry days with clear sunny skies. Maybe in those conditions my car would actually make it to Miles, but as of right now I think I'm going to give it a minute before I get back over that way. Definitely glad we did, though.
Nov 09 2018
ALMAL
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Reavis Frog Tanks Rogers Canyon Loop, AZ 
Reavis Frog Tanks Rogers Canyon Loop, AZ
 
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Backpack31.80 Miles 4,940 AEG
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Started Friday morning with a full parking lot, 3 big trucks with trailers taking up most of the spaces. Followed Mr. Squishy route. Smooth sailing to Plow Saddle, only some sketchy water in the troughs. Continued on to Fish creek and a nice campsite. Saw a fox before dark, not aggressive, just nosy. Threw a couple of rocks and it thought I was throwing food I think. Quiet and not too cold night. Saturday headed down to Angel Basin and then up past the ruins and on to Reavis. Landed at the ranch by 2pm, camped at same spot as 3 weeks ago. Not too crowded, picked a few apples, one landed square on my forehead looking up, got a little bruise. Stood still for a couple of minutes and listened to apples falling at the rate of 2-4 per minute nearby. Got cold after dark. Left early and back to the lot by noon.
Nice loop! Water in Fish creek and throughout Rogers as well.
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Sep 22 2018
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Reavis Ranch via 109 SouthGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Hiking14.70 Miles 2,158 AEG
Hiking14.70 Miles   6 Hrs   58 Mns   2.22 mph
2,158 ft AEG      21 Mns Break
 
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Annual Apple Report
Impressive bumper crop!

Notes to self since I just lost the attention of 99%.
85 degrees driving in from Hewitt to the rise. Then a welcoming 75 at Roger's TH.

Rogers Canyon Trail #110
Naggy catclaw is pleasantly absent compared to memory.

109 to Reavis Saddle
Fair, could use a clip. Pinball wizards will dodge and twist without skipping a beat.

Saddle to Valley
Solo in one of my favorite stretches of forest I slow poked it. Explored a bit and dabbled in nuisance locust maintenance. Precursor Autumn breezes were as good as life gets.

Reavis Valley
Heading in the pear trees were loaded. Chutney scat was loaded with clues and the orchard a bountiful fruit symphony.

Road
I'm probably overly sensitive. Just had some welding this week on my lca that was replaced a year ago and something still isn't quite right. Naturally the road seemed worse than ever. Probably par but I wouldn't suggest it for the family sedan. The lower creek crossings where actually as good as ever. Just bumpy as hell overall. The dip of concern IMO in the final 3 miles to Roger's seems deeper cut than normal. That said, it's doable.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Reavis Creek at Fireline #118 Light flow Light flow
nice and clear

dry Reavis Saddle Spring Dry Dry
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Failed to find. No sign of water.
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Feb 03 2018
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 Bozeman, MT
Rogers Canyon Trail #110Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Hiking6.50 Miles 1,157 AEG
Hiking6.50 Miles   5 Hrs   30 Mns   1.18 mph
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Great hike. The trail was in great condition little loose rock here in their. There are some spots where the bushes grow into the trail so wear long sleeves and pants if you care about that.

The weather was beautiful and the was shade most of the way but just make sure you bring enough water. There were a couple sitting pools of water but nothing that looked too great.


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Sep 10 2017
joebartels
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Reavis Ranch via 109 SouthGlobe, AZ
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Hiking15.20 Miles 2,200 AEG
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Chums suggested this, being one of my favorites had me excited to go. This south route was #12 in my 20 Favorites list and it's holding steady. I'm a huge fan of the Gap-Campaign loop too. This is just more reasonable to access and feasible stats wise for most.

The history is rich. The annual apple crop is a heavy lure for nearby desert dwellers. An entry in the trailhead register stated no apples. Obvious in our minds a poor ploy to deter the masses.

Rogers Canyon Trail #110
The 1.6 miles out on this trail was typical. Easy to follow with low nagging catsclaw. Enough to constantly dodge, not remotely enough to deter.

Reavis Ranch Trail #109
Wally pointed out points of interest & Chums led a good pace to the saddle, then we took a little break. The hike easing down to Reavis Valley is always enjoyable. After Wally pointed out the obvious pond I enquired about we headed to the north orchard to indulge. Unfortunately the trail register had merit, apples were few and far between. Only a few unripened reds.

We decided to hike over to the Gap Trail and take a break at a campsite near the creek. Wally found a Paul Bunyan sized custom bow handle and modeled accordingly.

The hike back always feels longer but went well.

Synopsis
Apples or not I'll be back. It was great to see Wally and Kyle again. I tried a new pack setup to alleviate my shoulder pain which has been setting in around around 6-8 miles. Lightened my camelbak weight a tad with a medium sized fanny pack. Either that, the addition of gatorade, a mid hike aspirin or general healing worked wonders. This was the first good medium sized hike with zero shoulder pain. Also the quickest pace since my return.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Reavis Creek at Fireline #118 Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout
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Rogers Ridge, AZ 
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Hiking9.00 Miles 1,755 AEG
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With a weekend of relatively cool temperatures as encouragement, I left Tucson late on Friday night, and slept in the bed of my truck beneath a palo verde tree in Hewitt Canyon. I awoke to an epic sunrise view of Roblas Butte, got my pack ready, and was on the road to Rogers Trough. HAZ reports were true; the road to Rogers was in great condition, including the switchback. I set off on foot, my goal being to follow Carlson and Stewart's "Silver Chief Trail" route to the Silver Chief Mine site.

The first half mile to butte 5169' and Rogers Ridge was an easy off trail jaunt through grass, mild brush, and some catclaw. Beyond there, the route became rougher. An daunting, unbroken carpet of six foot high manzanita lay before me, under a cloudless sky and 80-something temps. For the next couple of miles, I fought my way through the manzanita and catclaw, trying to follow the path of least resistance, occasionally finding isolated stretches of what seemed like a trail for a hundred yards or so. Blood and profanity poured forth like a waterfall, and I stopped a few times to reconsider my objective in the shade-less thickets. I decided to continue, as I never wanted to attempt this hike again.

After several hours on the ridgeline, I descended through even worse brush and catclaw to the Silver Chief Mine site. I say site, because the mine is completely collapsed, and there is really nothing to see here, except a bit of weathered junk from illegal mining in the 1990's, such as a mattress and rotten clothes. Still, it felt like an accomplishment, to relive frontier Arizona history, having recently enjoyed the book "Jacob's Trail". I located a tiny patch of shade under a small pinyon, and sat down to cool off, rest, and have lunch. I had decided to bushwhack down the ravine and over a saddle to reach the Rogers Canyon Trail, rather than go back through Manzanita Hell.

I bushwhacked, crawled and smashed my way down the ravine at a tediously slow pace of a half mile per hour, backtracking a few times when the route became ridiculous. Stopped to check out the old stone cabin foundations along the way. As I fought my way over the final saddle, audibly cursing the brush like a madman, I could see the inviting trees of Rogers Canyon below. Not long after I literally stumbled onto Rogers Creek at a trail crossing, and partook of the cool water there. It was a euphoric moment to find water and an established trail! I washed the blood and dirt off of my shredded legs, and said hello to a passing trail runner (a HAZ guy, I think).

I made the pleasant stroll up the Rogers Canyon Trail in the late afternoon light, stopping to soak in a tinaja along the way. I hiked past an almost deserted Rogers Trough Trailhead to my truck to resupply my water, and then hiked back to Rogers Spring to see the old Feldman "treasure trove" dig site of 2005. The spring was in a lush, wooded area, where I paused to consider the history of the site.

Returning to my truck at dusk, I climbed inside to enjoy chips and salsa and consider where to camp, but just sat there for several hours, too tired to move. By 10 pm I rallied and made the drive back to Superior for Circle K pizza and some much needed sleep at my favorite Silver King Road camp site. I drifted off to sleep considering my hike options for Sunday.

My review of the Rogers Ridge hike: Not a hike that I would want to do again. Unless you're a history nut like me, there is little reward for the amount of bushwhacking torture on Rogers Ridge. Probably the nastiest off trail hike I've ever done.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Roger's Creek Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Gentle flow, small pools in places, dry in others.

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Steady flow in the pipe
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Apr 01 2017
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White Mtn 6100 - Rough Cyn - Rogers Cyn, AZ 
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Hiking17.38 Miles 4,065 AEG
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I decided to crash Joe and Bruce's saturday hike this week. I met up with Bruce around 6:00 AM near Country Club and US-60. Joe ended up having vehicle troubles and had to bail last minute.

We started around 7:30 AM at Rogers Trough, and cruised up to Reavis Saddle. We ran into an AZT thru hiker on the way up and had a quick chat. We turned off Reavis Ranch 109 South at the appropriate spot and started heading up a drainage towards White Mountain. Nice and easy for the first little bit, then our route had us leaving the drainage, and the fight with manzanita/oak hell began.

On the summit of White Mountain we took a break and enjoyed the views. Bruce signed us in on the summit log. It was a little cloudy but the view on top was still pretty amazing, I can only imagine what it looks like on a crisp, clear day. I will be back again for this one. Getting to this point wasn't too bad, it felt like we were making pretty good time. I looked at RS, saw we had "only" 10 miles left, and told Bruce something along the lines of: "I think we will make it back in about 5 hours." Wrong!

We left the summit and headed down the mountain towards Rough Canyon. The brush was much more forgiving on this side of the mountain, but the slopes were loose rocks instead. I wasn't exactly sure what to expect with Rough Canyon, I just knew it was off trail and the name made it sound a little intimidating. The canopy of pines and sycamores at the start of the canyon was a cool little spot. Plenty of nice spots to camp that look like they've never been touched.

Eventually the canyon walls start to rise and you find yourself in the creek bed more often than not. Then a series of falls start and you'll be choosing whether to scramble down or skirt up and around the falls. The going got really slow. Along the way, Bruce decided to take a quick dunk in one of the pools to cool off, and about a quarter mile later I decided to do it as well. :) I kept looking at RS after what felt like a mile and usually found we had only gone about a quarter of a mile... So much for that 5 hour estimate. :lol:

By the time we reached Frog Tanks I was pretty sore and I was starting to bonk. Rough Canyon used some muscles I don't use very often, and for much longer than I usually use them. We enjoyed a break at the intersection of Rough Canyon and Rogers Canyon before starting the ascent back up Rogers to the TH. It felt like it was going to be a slog, but I was just happy to be back on a trail by this point. One foot in front of the other is all that was required now. :)

We ran into 2 groups of backpackers at Angel Basin, and then another group further up the trail who were headlighting into Angel Basin. I finally caught a good second wind just before the Rogers Canyon/Reavis Ranch JCT, but I still finished feeling pretty sore. We finished around 8:20 PM.

If you just look at mileage and AEG this hike doesn't seem too difficult, but this is the hardest 17 miles and 4000ft I've worked for in a long time. I was telling Bruce on the way out I wasn't sure if I was going to come back again for Rough Canyon, but after looking at pictures of this canyon in the fall, and the ruins (we didn't look too hard), I think I'll have to come back again sometime.

Great hike with great company!
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White Mountain 6100 - Rough Canyon Loop, AZ 
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Hiking18.01 Miles 4,180 AEG
Hiking18.01 Miles   12 Hrs   51 Mns   1.50 mph
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Joe's been trying to get me to do this one for awhile now, but there was always something that got in the way.

It was his week to pick and the stars aligned. Dallin was looking for a place to stomp, it was on. One problem, Joe was having vehicle problems, so this hike went from 3 stooges, to only two.

Reavis Ranch 109 is still in great shape. We made a brief detour at the Grave and made our way to the top. On the way up we stopped to trade stories with a solo AZT through hiker from Maine.

Once to the top and in the pines, the route provide to us had us following a creek bed off of the #109. Easy enough. There was even some evidence of past trimming and cairns. This took us up to an alcove area we were going to check out. We decided the push through the bush, was not warranted.

Missing a turn to go up, we opted for a southern approach to White Mountain. The views from 6075 or 6100' were some of the best 360 Supes views out there.

Crappy Summit Video :next: [ youtube video ]

Time to drop into Rough Canyon. This is a beautiful, tree covered, water filed, boulder hopping/sliding/traversing dream..... that turns into a nightmare. It took fooorrreeevvver to get through it. 4.5 miles and 4.5 hours (including lunch) to get through this monster. Don't get me wrong, this place is gorgeous, but I was so ready for it to be over. We even found plenty of "Use" tread, that kept us out of the boulders.

Frog Tanks #112 was a welcome site, but still more boulder hopping off and on. We passed a couple of backpackers here, and then two occupied campsites in Angel Basin.

The Rogers Canyon #110 was done mainly in the dark back to the car.

Great hiking with Dallin, I'm sure there will be more. It's nice to have a 6'-7" body, breaking a swath off in front of you!
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Water all over around the area

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Good flow the entire length

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Plenty to filter

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Rogers Canyon Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Plenty, but hard to tell if its the spring or the creek

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Rough Canyon Light flow Light flow
Water available the entire length
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Mar 25 2017
wallyfrack
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 Routes 89
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58 male
 Joined Mar 11 2003
 AZ
Frog Tanks Trail #112Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 25 2017
wallyfrack
Hiking20.60 Miles 3,159 AEG
Hiking20.60 Miles   8 Hrs   21 Mns   2.47 mph
3,159 ft AEG
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1st trip
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We hiked the Rogers, Reavis, Frog Tanks, Rogers loop to complete some trail sections for Denny. We left early and drove to the Rogers Trough trailhead without traffic only to find 16 vehicles already there at 6:30am. The start was cool with the sun below the horizon and then some early clouds took over and we were near Plow Saddle Spring before the sun really joined the hike. There were many hikers and campers along the way but plenty on solitude in areas as well. We saw 6 white-tailed deer and one expired stinky gray fox next to the trail. There was lots of water flowing along the way which was enjoyable. We managed to take a few breaks and check out some ruins, troughs and a corral along the way and still make good time. Thanks for the hike Denny.
Named place
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Rogers Monster Agave
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Mar 25 2017
Tortoise_Hiker
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58 male
 Joined Apr 02 2005
 Mesa, AZ
Frog Tanks Trail #112Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 25 2017
Tortoise_Hiker
Hiking20.60 Miles 3,159 AEG
Hiking20.60 Miles   8 Hrs   21 Mns   2.47 mph
3,159 ft AEG
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1st trip
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wallyfrack
Wally took me out to the Supes to hit some parts of trail I had not been on. The temps and clouds made the hike from Rogers trailhead all the way to Frog Tank trailhead very pleasant. Frog Tank was nice but wore me down. Sadly there was a " sleeping fox" right beside the trail. Paradise creek(?) was running pretty good and swallowed the trail in a couple spots. Rogers was in good shape with good water running in the creek as well. We even saw a Swedish :o swim team on this trail. By the time we got to the Reavis trail junction Wally had to drag me up it. Great Hike. Thanks to Wally for guiding, pushing ,pulling me and driving.
The south side of some of the mountains on the drive in are covered in Brittlebush with Globe Mallow and Fairydusters to boot. With a lot of Saguaros thrown in, it is really pretty. Someone with a good camera and or talent could get some awesome photos out there right now! The Renaissance traffic lived up to it's reputation and I was more than ready for lunch by the time we got out of there. :y:
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Named place
Rogers Monster Agave
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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
A few here and there but nothing bunched up. The drive on the dirt road was the show.
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Feb 16 2017
wallyfrack
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58 male
 Joined Mar 11 2003
 AZ
Rogers Canyon Trail #110Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 16 2017
wallyfrack
Hiking7.60 Miles 2,348 AEG
Hiking7.60 Miles   5 Hrs   30 Mns   1.38 mph
2,348 ft AEG
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Linked none no linked trail guides
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I took the day off and decided to try Rogers Trough TH before the coming rain. I wanted to hike up near Redwood Spring for a search. I went off trail a little early on the climb up and had to cross 3 deep washes and play some Manzanita Twister. Two whitetail deer jumped up and pranced off when I was dropping down into the 3rd wash. The terrain is rough and you need to route find but that's what exploring is all about. I made a loop on the west side of White Mountain and dropped back down to the trail. I talked with 3 hikers going to the ruins on the hike out. FR172 is in good condition but there were several people out with quads so it took some extra time to get back out to US60.
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Feb 03 2017
knmurphy
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39 male
 Joined Aug 03 2008
 Chandler, AZ
Tule to First Water, AZ 
Tule to First Water, AZ
 
Backpack avatar Feb 03 2017
knmurphy
Backpack46.25 Miles 8,900 AEG
Backpack46.25 Miles3 Days         
8,900 ft AEG
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1st trip
We car camped at the Tule TH Thursday night and started for Reavis Friday morning. It was my first time on Tule and Two Bar Ridge. The trail conditions were pretty good on both, Two Bar packs in some serious elevation fast. Reavis Gap trail was in good shape and provided more opportunity for elevation gain. We arrived at Reavis Ranch 13.8 miles in and got a typical cold Reavis night, a low of about 25.

Saturday morning we headed out on the Reavis Ranch trail over to Frog Tanks, down to Rogers and onto the JF trail, ending at the Tortilla TH for the night. The Frog Tanks trail is more of a game trail in places, overall not very hard to follow but plenty of cats claw. The section of Rogers Canyon trail leading over to JF is in great shape, easy to follow. The first few miles of the JF were in less than ideal conditions in many places but gets super easy as you get closer to the TH. Ended at 17.2 miles for the day.

Sunday morning we started to make our way to First Water, slowly at first. We took Peters trail down to the Dutchman trail, over on Bull Pass and back onto the Dutchman for 4 more character building miles. Peters trail is in great shape thanks to efforts of some great volunteers. Smooth sailing all the way in on the last day.


There is water everywhere out there right now, I never went more than 2 miles without finding water. Great time of year to get out in the Supes.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Angel Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Charlebois Canyon Medium flow Medium flow

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Charlebois Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute

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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Clover Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Water in the creek

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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Frog Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Hole Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Indian Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Water in the creek.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Indian Spring Number One Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Water in the creek.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Kane Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Water in the creek.

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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Pine Creek at Reavis Gap #117 Medium flow Medium flow

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Plow Saddle Springs Gallon per minute Gallon per minute

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Reavis Creek at Gap Trail #117 Medium flow Medium flow

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Water in the creek.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Walnut Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute

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Water in the creek.
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Jan 31 2017
Mr_Squishy
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 Routes 25
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65 male
 Joined Jan 14 2009
 Kodiak, AK
Reavis Ranch Frog Tanks Rogers Canyon Loop, AZ 
Reavis Ranch Frog Tanks Rogers Canyon Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jan 31 2017
Mr_Squishy
Hiking 5,000 AEG
Hiking
5,000 ft AEG
 
1st trip
Starting at 8:15 Tuesday morning from the Reavis TH, I hiked to Plow Saddle, then down to the Frog Tanks Trail to Angel Basin where I spent a wonderful, cold solitary evening of clear skies and unobstructed views. (14.4 miles, 2700 ft AEV) Frog Tanks is in great shape and it looked like someone had brushed the section through Paradise. I think Frog Tanks may be my favorite trail in the Superstitions. Most of it is high and there are great open views of the surrounding countryside. When it joins Rogers Canyon, it looked like flooding had washed out some of the bank trails and some cairns which presented some route finding challenges to avoid getting wet feet. The next morning I awoke to frost on the ground, but it warmed up quickly. I started up the Rogers Canyon trail and checked out the ruins. I continued to the Reavis Ranch trail junction and headed up the Killer Switchbacks from Outer Space. There was water in the pass, running down the trail as I headed down to the Ranch. Spent the night at the ranch, then hiked out to the TH. This is a superb loop, but be forewarned that the first day is long. I had about 5000 feet elev gain total for the trip.

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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Paradise Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Plow Saddle Springs Quart per minute Quart per minute

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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Reavis Saddle Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Rogers Canyon Heavy flow Heavy flow
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Jan 13 2017
Thoreau
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 Joined Mar 10 2008
 Phoenix, AZ
Angel Basin Reavis Ranch Loop, AZ 
Angel Basin Reavis Ranch Loop, AZ
 
Backpack avatar Jan 13 2017
Thoreau
Backpack23.92 Miles
Backpack23.92 Miles3 Days         
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1st trip
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Wet. Very very wet.

Day 1 on Friday was nice and uneventful for the short hike in to camp at Angel Basin. No rain seemed near (save for some distant thunder) all day/night. The next morning started out about the same and didn't go sideways with weather until we were coming up the neverending crawl towards Plow Saddle. The skies opened up, lightning and thunder way closer than would be considered safe, and winds picked up. Without much option, we pushed on and near the top the weather calmed and we got to see some nice sunshine and views before the last saddle prior to Reavis 109.

Not long after hitting that mudslide of a trail, it started raining again, and by the time we got to the intersection where 117 spurs off to the East, it was a pretty solid rain and we had to pick the first usable campsite we could find. About the moment we did, the rain picked up and sustained for hours. Of course, it finally died down around maybe 8 or 9pm, and was gone all night. The second we woke up at 7am it started back up and made for lotsa fun trying to get ready and break camp.

By the return to our vehicle at the end, every single drainage and crossing was flowing heavily and one member of the party even went for a brief swim up to the knees on one crossing. Most of the day on day 3 was spent in clouds/fog that never went away.

All in all, a good time =)
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Jan 05 2017
DallinW
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27 male
 Joined Feb 26 2015
 Gilbert AZ
Frog Tanks - Reavis Ranch - Reavis Falls, AZ 
Frog Tanks - Reavis Ranch - Reavis Falls, AZ
 
Backpack avatar Jan 05 2017
DallinW
Backpack36.93 Miles 7,198 AEG
Backpack36.93 Miles1 Day   8 Hrs      
7,198 ft AEG20 LBS Pack
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1st trip
Me and Nick checked out some new territory in the Supes. Frog Tanks and Reavis Falls was on my mind, and this made for a great opportunity to pick up the northern part of the Reavis Ranch Trail.

Frog Tanks is a little gnarly. Plenty of cat claw and cactus dodging to keep you on your toes. Well worth the battle scars for the views down Fish Canyon, and the boulder hopping up Rogers Canyon. Back-to-back waterfalls up Rogers Canyon. This was by far my most favorite part of the hike. Having running water down the entire length of these canyons was a real treat.

We had Reavis Ranch all to ourselves for the night, which was nice, except when it came to finding fire wood. We hit the sleeping bags after it started to drizzle which continued on and off for most of the night. Around 3AM the wind kicked up for several hours and you could hear big gusts make their way from the top of valley all the way down to the ranch.

The next morning we hit Reavis Falls on the way out. The fall was running good, but nothing like some of the pictures I've seen on here. Well worth the side trip, and I actually really enjoyed the climb out, despite all the complaining I made on the way down :). Near Maple Spring you see Juniper, Pine, and Saguaro all within 50 yards of one another, which I found to be pretty cool. The area feels very diverse.

Water is plentiful at the moment. Started with 3L, but eventually carried 0L - 1L between water sources. For a good portion of this hike, we were walking near, hopping over, or listening to flowing water. It felt more like spring than winter out there. It's getting green, the bugs are out, and the temperatures were mild.

This has been one of my favorite Superstitions trips to date.

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Flowing water in drainage at trail crossing.

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Seeping out at trail crossing.

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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Reavis Falls Medium flow Medium flow

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Water seeping out on trail.

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Flowing water the entire length of the canyon.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Rogers Canyon Medium flow Medium flow
Flowing water the entire length of the canyon.

dry Rogers Canyon Spring Dry Dry
Spring box is still dry. Flowing water in canyon.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Rough Canyon Medium flow Medium flow
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The_N
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 Routes 54
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33 male
 Joined Mar 18 2015
 Payson, AZ
Frog Tanks - Reavis Ranch - Reavis Falls, AZ 
Frog Tanks - Reavis Ranch - Reavis Falls, AZ
 
Backpack avatar Jan 05 2017
The_N
Backpack36.93 Miles 7,198 AEG
Backpack36.93 Miles1 Day   8 Hrs      
7,198 ft AEG
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1st trip
Hit some new territory in the Supes and Dallin put together this gem of a loop. Starting at the Northern end of Reavis Trail we cruised in through Plow Saddle as both trails were in great shape and easy to follow. Excellent views and cloud art kept us intrigued. The real fun began with Frog Tanks Trail. Although slightly overgrown, the canyon views and water in Fish Creek kept us eagerly pushing through the cat claw and other scratchy stuff. Tread was also not as good since the recent rains seemed to have loosened a lot of the rocks in the trail. We were amazed by the amount of water in Fish Creek until we reached Rogers Canyon as witnessed how much flow was coming down. This was the highlight of the trip. It was boulder hopping and use trails as we bypassed cascade after cascade and a plenty of swimming holes upto about 6ft deep. We made a quick detour at the ruins where we made our only human contact with a couple of day hikers. Dallin commented on how this canyon was bone dry a couple of weeks ago, so I definitely felt spoiled to have seen so much water here my first time. We departed the canyon and made our way up to Reavis Ranch for camp. Once again, we were back on really nice trail and views instantly open back up. We arrived at camp with wet feet and enough time to set up and enjoy a fire while several deer hung around in the meadows. We were chased into our tents by rain and endured high winds until about 7am. The next morning we were excited to get to our side trip to Reavis Falls after seeing all the water the previous day. The trail down to the falls was in good shape aside from some intrusive cacti. After what seemed like endless downhill we reached a very scenic and diverse canyon still sporting some fall colors on the cottonwoods. We enjoyed the falls for a few minutes and started back. The climb out ended up being much easier than anticipated. We finished the trip with a nice downhill cruise back to the TH. What an epic trip and well-timed. Felt like we saw a little of every season in the Supes. There was sunshine, grass, green leaves, wildflowers, bugs and mushrooms. There was water present in every creek, canyon, drainage and even the trail itself. Awesome temps made it feel like a slice of paradise.
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Reavis Falls Rogers Canyon
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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
Sporadic in the lower elevations.

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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Maple Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute

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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Reavis Creek Medium flow Medium flow

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