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Rogers Canyon Trail #110 - 26 members in 99 triplogs have rated this an average 3.8 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Aug 22 2022
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Fort Knox Circumference, AZ 
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,286
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Started from the Woodbury Trailhead for a change of perspective. The initial 110-ft hill isn't luring Reavis/Roger ruins destination hikers claiming they have an interest in the journey. If it wasn't for the JF/Woodbury sign you wouldn't know Woodbury existed.

Walking through the moisture-enriched morning grass had me thinking Gortex shoes might be preferred but I felt like I was going above and beyond wearing a long sleeve shirt coupled with pants for the hecklers. Grass is hiding the hint of rarely used trail. Sparse and avoidable catclaw on Woodbury heading east to 172A. Remarkable terrain but the drive negates this as a reasonable dayhike in itself. I passed some of the most sacred datura on earth according to the Wyatt Earp diaries.

Taking a final turn to Rogers, I noticed the elevation was 4,809 ft after a 1500-foot ascent. Due to relentless sweating, I was ready for a few gravity miles. It was a hallmark moment too with the cry of a Red-tailed Hawk soaring overhead.

Rogers Canyon Trail #110
The first ~mile of Rogers jungle is still impressive a week later. There were several light rainfalls in the past week but none of the creeks were flowing today. Pants and a long sleeve shirt really are nice for plowing through the vegetation. ...that may have been the breeze speaking, I hate pants.

Rogers from the Reavis junction to Angel Basin had a healthy scattering of sunflower stalks. I took a stab at the intervals of trail along the creek several times. For the majority, the trail has been abandoned. There are a couple of short segments but ya gotta work for 'em.

The Angel Basin vicinity was a mess of catclaw as expected. Just before reaching Angel Spring, I realized I was wasting energy on the wrong catclaw... lol.

Finding #110 propper for the first quarter-mile out of the basin was difficult to find even with GPS and key cairns. Two of the cairns were spot on but it seemed impossible to go 5-10 feet until thinking outside of the box. This was semi-expected because I recall having trouble here on a Tule to Peralta dayhike in 2010.

The eye-opener was only two semi-quick miles in the remaining six. We were hauling ass in 2010 so I didn't get to absorb the area. At a crawl-pace, I found the distance views, and new to me geology to be worthy of more trips (with loppers).

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Knee-high grass with lots of catclaw.

Warning
This loop in its current condition will be cursed by most.

Fauna
No snakes, thankfully. The largest group of swallowtail butterflies I've ever seen, scattered admirals and a couple checkered. One greater roadrunner and just one white-tailed deer. Scared up flocks of birds out of the grass in the morning stretch and the late afternoon. Some were quail, no clue about the majority.

FS172 to Woodbury Trailhead
From the 172A split is flat/quick after the initial creek crossing and rutted hill.

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lots of sunflower stalks en route to Angel Basin, primrose, daisies, verbena

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Reavis Ranch via 109 SouthGlobe, AZ
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Planned on a different hike. Switched it up at the last minute with concern it would be a bad idea without pants...

The area has received rain nearly daily for the past couple of weeks and more is forecasted. There was a trickle in the creek 50 ft into the hike and the next about a half mile in. Uncharacteristic route finding in the first mile due to nipple high grass. Crossed paths with one black rattlesnake in the first two miles. Two separate deer spottings, the second was white-tailed.

Just a hint of FauxG at Reavis Saddle. Sauna city until the tiny stretch through the woods. With the exception of one short set of footprints and a spork, the area looked untraveled based on the summer growth of locust.

After battling and beating down the locust hiding the trail and what not for a good mile I had to quit due to lack of time, energy and blood just before the large juniper.

Good clear flow in the creek by Fireline junction.

The first grass clump feild was a sea of Sacred Datura. Both fields were a wade through the grass but I've seen it much taller. A slender 4+ ft striped snake zipped through the grass at jet speed. The largest bear foot prints I recall in two areas of mud in the grass clump fields.

The field before Reavis valley has a few large sunflowers but it's a far cry from record growth seen in the past.

Started to tour the North orchard. There were no apples in the first tree. Decided I'd rather head back than continue because I hadn't had a break and wanted to get back through the sea of vegetation in the old now treeless south orchard field before sitting down.

Catclaw
Light to the extent that one guy with a pair of clippers would clear it all out in a single trip with under an hour extra time.

Dead Trees over trail
Marked as yellow flags in my route. Neither of the two largest had any sign of a workaround. One was a healthy jump over, the other was a mess of the upper end of a tree so I beat through the inner branches.

Road
172A is still fine for sedans. However, I wouldn't recommend the family commuter on a tight budget due to two other spots on the main road.

Just one sheriff Blazer on the drive-in before reaching Elephant Arch in the morning and no tracks other than mine when I left. Two small groups of shooters in the evening down in the low desert.
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Purple Nightshade, Four o'clock, Desert Globemallow, Sacred Datura, purple daisies, and sunflowers. Lots of desert senna on the drive-in, the most I've ever seen.

Arizona Penstemon is not blooming but has an intriguing autumn color. It's either going to seed or loaded with buds. I didn't get a close look or photo even through there is a bunch.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Reavis Creek at Fireline #118 Medium flow Medium flow
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Rogers Canyon RuinsGlobe, AZ
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Backpack w/ kiddos and grandpa! Drive out was probably a bit more than my 2WD Jeep Renegade should handle (spun out a few times climbing the hills), so grandpa in a separate truck as a backup plan was appreciated. Made it to Rogers Trough TH by 5PM, quickly packed up and headed down with the ambitious goal of Angel Basin for the night. This wasn't in the cards (littlest had the biggest feelings) and we stopped after 3 miles at a familiar campsite. There was a trickle of water in the creek (really, there was a trickle in the creek for more than 2/3 of the length we saw) and grandpa quickly gathered enough firewood to keep the cold evening temps at bay. Tried something new - we each cowboy camped with bug nets - and it worked okay? Kids struggled getting changed inside the sleeping bags.

I was the only one who got cold during the night (30F bag) and we were slow in the morning, breaking camp at 8AM. Light packs made for easy hiking. After scouting out the ruins I only felt comfortable bringing the oldest up, so the two of us explored the ruins while the rest of the group snacked in the shade. We stayed in the creek on the return and got back to camp at 11AM. Longer break to water up before the warm climb out, getting back to the TH at 3PM. One of my tires had picked up a nail and a slow leak from the day before, so we took it easy on the return. Only saw one other group out there.

Trail is in okay shape, lots of growth (and flowers!) out there. Water was a very welcome sight, I only hauled 2L and filtered frequently to keep the group hydrated.

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Good, steady flow from here to ruins site.

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Good flow started above spring and "boosted" at spring location.
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Reavis Apple Check & Circlestone, AZ 
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I threw out a slew of ideas and Bruce selected Reavis with options. The road in is fine. Albeit fixed, the pinched ravine of concern looks like it'll give with a gully washer.

A whopping two vehicles at the trailhead on one of the nicest days of the year for hiking the area. We met a through hiker breaking camp at the trailhead. He was thirsty and drying his sleeping bag out in the sun after what he said was a below-freezing night. Bruce gave him a bottle of water, Wally assessed his vitals and we were off in comfy mid to upper 40-degree temps. Water in the creekbed within 5-8 minutes.

Somehow I was forced into the lead so I set a crawl pace. The ascent was a vicious-relaxing power breeze on the way up. Thornfree catclaw is always a bonus. Wally pointed out nearby treasures along the way, and Bruce and I took notes.

T'was a mighty pleasant stroll from Reavis Saddle to the ranch. The theme of the day was scattered thru-hikers increasing throughout the day. Bruce counted about 14 Count Dracula style.

The trail through the short stretches of locust forests is virtually scratch-free. Hands down the least intimidating trip through the tall grass meadows. A good visible path the entire way was a rare bonus.

The massive juniper is indeed hanging on to its last grasp for life ( I may have suggested it was dead earlier ). It does have a sliver of bark down one side. In lesser terms, I attempted explaining Without the protection of the bark, the phloem can no longer send that energy to the roots, and Bruce started beating me with mean words he obviously gathered from childhood.

One of the kitchen sink haulers was all smiles about abundant and beautiful apple blossoms. Which was my initial reasoning for the hike. Abundant, yes. Beautiful, perhaps. The majority are crumbly orange, maybe 15-20% white fluffy blooms. Did it freeze here recently? Seems like it. They wither and turn brown based on a quick search. As always, spread the word, Reavis is just not worth an early Autumn hike.

We met Max, a good ol' fashion non-thru hiker heading out of Reavis Ranch. He was headed to Circlestone so we crossed paths again heading there ourselves. The line of fire stops just to the northwest of the Fireline Trail. The visual isn't too bad unless you are blind to the surrounding geology. The trail is gone for maybe just over a tenth of a mile, sporting a new mini canyon. Initially, you can cross over but it's easier to stay in the washout for a few minutes.

On a 2011 bushwhack trip outta hell with @azdesertfather & @johnlp we bypassed Circlestone. Ruins are generally about as exciting as pocket lint and controversial up the wassu, not my thing but it's cool that everybody doesn't equally honor crowded urban peaks. That said, I'm glad to have checked out Cirlcestone, more impressive than anticipated and I have a book on them that might be worth reading if I squeak by 2059.

Max stayed for our lunch break, and we parted ways at the end of the Fireline Trail because he was finishing his 28 mile out-n-back from the north.

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Light for if-it-ain't poppies it sucks circles. Primrose & paintbrush, light. Desert globemallow, New Mexico thistle & Arizona penstemon substantial for good stretches.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Excellent clear and wide

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout About 20 gallons of water in the creek
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Only ever been to the Eastern Superstitions once before when I made the trip a few years ago to Roger's Canyon Ruins. Figured with the roadwork now was the time to have a look at the greatest hits. Had a go at the Roger's Canyon - Frog Tanks - Reavis Loop but added Mound Mountain and circlestone. Started a quarter before sunrise with Roger's Canyon.

The road was nice enough to shave a half hour or more off previous trips to Roger's Trough. Roger's Canyon Trail was mostly spared from the fire, though erosion has taken care of portions. Damage is worst by the Reavis junction and gets better on the way down. Water flowing intermittently, stronger by the ruins and Angel Basin. Saw a couple folks who had spent the night near Angel Spring.

Frog Tanks Trail has disappeared in the riparian ares but is present for the climbing out. It travels through some pretty gnarly burn. Paradise Canyon was especially scorched. There was water mostly the whole way until the climb out. The most cat claw of the day was on that stretch.

Reavis Creek had good water the whole way. Burned more to the north than the south. Easy walking on the AZT along the meadows and through the pines.

Fireline slightly tricky to track around the creek crossing. The turn off for Circlestone is obvious. Circlestone is as cool as it gets for stacked rocks, enhanced significantly by the amazing location. Mound Mountain summit is pretty easily my favorite in the Superstitions I've been to so far. There's a little bit of a trail near the summit, limited bushwhack otherwise.

I took the NW ridge down to save miles, but it did nothing to save time. I started under the pines on the ridge before entering the drainage. Once into the burn, the ridge cleared up and the views widened, so it made sense to head up there. Descended into Log Trough Canyon and one of the most beautiful open pine forests I've been in. Overall the getting down was pretty rough.

Reavis south to the TH is burned closer it goes to the saddle, but where it's not it's exceptionally pretty. In my ignorance it was hard to believe it was the supes. AZT tread was, as usual, just about perfect. Passed three separate solo backpackers, no cars the at TH when I finished.
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The original plan was to hike from the Woodbury Trailhead. At the junction of FR 172A I decided to see how the road was and since it was good I kept going all the way to Rogers Trough. The hike in was cool and I was ahead of the pack so I didn't see an other hikers until I was hiking out. I stopped in at the ruins, looked for a route up White Mountain, took some photos and took a detour to the ore cart. The trail has issues and is difficult to follow on the way down. I did follow the trail most of the way out. There are several downed trees, reroutes and wash outs to keep things interesting. A nice day to be on the trail.
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Been thinking about this segment for quite a few years. Logistical nightmare. Came up with the idea of getting a shuttle ride at both ends. JJ and Janie volunteered to drive us to Rogers Trough and pick us up at Roosevelt Lake. Thanks to both of you!
JJ hiked with us for a few miles from Rogers Trough TH then had to return home to take care of some business.
This is a long tough segment, but rewarding in the end. We pushed hard the first day and made it to Cottonwood Spring just as it was getting dark. We found a pretty decent campsite, then set up camp and ate in the dark. Beautiful breezy evening.
Took our time breaking camp in the morning as we had plenty of time to only hike about 8 miles. The Cottonwood Creek area is really pretty with water access in numerous places. The cottonwoods and sycamores have new bright green leaves.
The final stretch has more AEG than anticipated and temps were rising. We pushed through and finished off the hike by working our way down to the lake for a refreshing dip.
Great trip. Thanks Kelly! :)
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john and i wanted to get this one done before it got too warm
@juanjaimeiii generously shuttled us to rogers trough saturday morning - thank you!
he also hiked in three miles with us before turning back
got going around 0745 with temps already warm enough for t-shirts
down rogers canyon, up reavis ranch trail
took a quick break at the saddle, then down to the ranch
quite a bit of burn in this area, but better once near reavis ranch
stopped where reavis creek crossed reavis gap trail, then up the first big hill
filtered water at pine creek, where we talked to two thru-hikers and their two section buddy
we would cross paths with them a few more times
originally planned to camp at high point, so we loaded up with water
two bar has some wonderful views, but also two big uphills
we passed the thru-hikers, as the buddy was struggling with the temps
the last climb was a challenge for me; think i just needed some fuel - felt fine after a lara bar
lower on water than we wanted, too early to stop, windy conditions and just one exposed campsite had us reconsider the original plan
we decided to press on to cottonwood spring, and rolled in right at dusk
filtered water, found a decent campsite, set up and ate dinner in the dark
the thru-hikers camped nearby, arriving about an hour after we did
overnight temps were warm
up around six, we took our time since janie wasn't going to pick us up until 1400
got going around 0800 after a third cup of john's coffee and set out down cottonwood trail
flowing water, very lush corridor with saguaros on the hillsides above, pretty area
lots of good water sources, both in the creek and in several stock tanks
road walk for awhile, then on the thompson trail
some ups and down while going around several drainages, finally finishing at the bridge
we were able to get janie a text to pick us up earlier, and had time for a dip in roosevelt lake before she arrived
big first day and an easier second, which is how we often do these passages
solid hike with several new trails for me, once on two bar ridge
nice variety of terrain
new tent and quilt on this trip
pack weight was 14-18 pounds, depending on how much water
brought the right amount of clothes and food
need a couple little gear tweaks and better organization
always good to hike these passages with john
thank you for arranging the shuttles

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Since I drove up to Rogers trailhead last Sunday so I knew I could get past the hole. I'd say 4x4 is needed because the hole is deep enough you'll want to slow down and once the momentum is gone you need traction to get out. The drive drown is just braking so no trouble there. We got to the trailhead and the temps were cool but nice. West Pinto trail starts out okay then becomes not so good as you go down. It seemed easier to follow going down as I missed a few turns on the way up. As Chris said while you're losing the elevation it seems it's going to be a tough climb out but the grade and the breeze made for a moderate climb. The trail along the creek is gone in sections but where we climbed up you could see the trail continuing on above the creek. We finishing hiking before 2 pm and with the breeze it was still nice.
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I don't think I've hiked this part of this trail since before my kids were born. It was time to go back. I asked Wally if he was interested and obviously he was. He also graciously agreed to do the driving to the Rogers Trough Th at my request. I needed a break from driving for one week, especially on this road.

Made our way up to the saddle by Iron Mountain and got some good views of to the west with the morning light and the shadows. On the other side of the saddle is where the burned area mostly is. This section of trail has always been kind of loose, I remember sliding off it the last time I hiked it, having the manzanita stop me from sliding further. Now the manzanita is mostly gone, which kind of makes for a better hike in some ways. More scenery and less to bust through. There was one loose section where there's a switchback into the heavy brush which wasn't touched by the fire. I had a little fall there and smacked my knee on a rock. From there it was a small climb to the ridgeline, then the descent into the creek.

The descent down the ridgeline was also through a decimated manzanita area. Can't say I miss that much. The views back at Iron Mountain gave us foreboding of what we had ahead of us for the hike out. Things got steeper the closer we got to the creek. Once we got to the creek, the "trail" heads to the left and follows the creek bed for a mile or so. I noticed later that at this point, if he had went to the right upstream a little bit, there is the Silver Spur Cabin that is shown on the maps. I don't know what this is, or if there is anything left of it. But it wasn't far upstream from where we were. Wish I had known that at the time.

The hike in the creek was crummy. Walking over river rock is not fun. But at least the catclaw made things painful at times to distract us from that. At this point I felt pretty fatigued, not really sure why. the Supes always make for rough hikes, but I just seemed overly tired at times.

We overshot where the trail actually left the creek so we made our way back to it and climbed a small hill. It was there that Wally noticed a severely eroded ruin. We poked through and found a few sherds. At this point we had gone 4.6 miles, and it was a long slog back through the creek bed again and back up the hill. From where we stopped, it looks like the trail stays high up out of the creek bed. Not sure if I've hiked this portion of the trail before. When I did this 16+ years ago from either end, I mostly remember the slog through the creek and across the river rock. At that time I followed my Delorme mapping to make my remedial GPS routes, as opposed to what we have available to us know on HAZ. I'll have to make a note to check that from the Miles TH end before things get to overgrown.

The hike back up the hill wasn't as bad as I was afraid it would be. We stopped and had lunch just before the big ascent, so i think that helped. Getting some rest and food gives you the energy you need to get it done. I took my sweatshirt off for the hike for the first time since before October. The breezes picked up the closer we got to the saddle, which helped cool us off and not use too much water.

On the way down from the saddle to the TH I saw a junction for another trail below Iron Mountain. Not sure where that went exactly, but i marked it on my RS.

Got done by 1:30 and made the bumpy ride down 172, pavement never felt so good.
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Drove through 2 open gates along AZ-88 (from the Roosevelt side) until I bumped into the block at Apache Lake. There is a small open gate on it, far too narrow for a vehicle, with a sign allowing hiking/biking/horse/atv traffic. Looks fairly permanent.

After parking at the Apache Lake Vista around 5am, swung into the first wash past the blocked AZ-88 and followed Joes (or Wallys?) route cross country. I left the wash too early and was forced to a nearby ridge, which was no fun to navigate in the dark. Took around 40m and definitely warmed me up in the chill morning air. I think I'd rather start earlier and stick to the road on the way up if I do another pre-dawn hike out here. Trailhead was missing the register and a few signs :cry:

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Fantastic trail to walk in the dark. Some washouts along the way, all easy to hop over. The day gradually waking up over the hills was heckin' beautiful. Castle Dome ridge section had some more serious washouts and overgrowth, nothing a little TLC can't fix. Fire damage got real near Windy Saddle.

Plow Saddle #287
Lack of signed junction and cairns, coupled with fire-damaged tread, made this tough to find, but once it drops off the saddle it is very easy to follow. More fire damage, a few deadfall to work around, and the loosey steepness was annoying. It was sad to see the scorched cottonwoods in that drainage, not sure if any survived.

Frog Tanks #112
Started with a lot of catclaw, which is more bearable past the 4937' ridge. That drop into Fish Creek is just dreamy, huge views. Explored a little by the stone corral before attempting to continue on the trail, which was super tough. Lots of fire damage, lots of catclaw. After fifteen minutes of cursing, bleeding, and crying, I dropped into the creek and stuck to boulder-hopping, which, combined with the trickling water, was incredibly enjoyable. Slow going, but enjoyable. A mile in and the green canopy came back to the canyon and I was in heaven.

Rogers Canyon #110
Looked a bit for the trail and then just kept in the creek. I was initially disappointed by the lack of trickling water, though the huge boulders and surrounding geology made up for the (mostly) dry creekbed. Started to feel a little toasty by the time I reached Angel Basin, and even though I got to meet @Andrewrdc (hi!) I didn't linger long at the ruins, more interested in powering through than looking at rocks on rocks. Trail was super easy to follow upstream of the ruins, passed three groups on the way in. Fire damage showed up again for the last mile.

Reavis Ranch #109
This trail again, this time from end-to-end. Paused for a quick break and then powered up that darn climb, passing another three or four groups on their way out. Was sad to see how scorched the saddle got. Trees began to come back about a mile in, and from then on the damage was sporadic in the valley and mostly visible on the nearby hillsides. Trail was in great shape until AZT branches off (no surprise), then there were a few minor obstacles on the way back to Plow Saddle. Sun set about 20m before I hit trailhead.

Decided to stick to the wash on the way down, which was hard for five minutes and then a simple cruise. Outside of the peeps on Rogers and a few along Reavis (between the grave and valley) there was no other hikers out there. A long, quiet, and fantastic day.
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Paradise Canyon Light flow Light flow
Steady and dependable flow along the length of Frog Tanks Trail.

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Drainage was dripping, several deep pools to pull from.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Reavis Creek at Fireline #118 Light flow Light flow
Steady, happy little flow.

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Steady flow from spring all along the length of trail.

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Dry at mouth. Some pools / trickles along the length.

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Steady flow coming out of the mouth.
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 Apache Junction,
Rogers Canyon Trail #110Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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00blackoutTriplogs 83
Hiking10.70 Miles 1,157 AEG
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It had been over a year since I've hiked out of Rogers Trough, so I headed up there yesterday to see if the trails looked better then they did a year ago after the fire. Four cars at the TH parking when I got there at 8. Nice flow from the creek at the start. Started off on Roger's Canyon Trail wanting to get to Angel Basin. The initial part of the trail is fine then the fire and erosion hits. Some trail damage but still pretty easy to follow till the Reavis turn off. First part of the Roger's Canyon trail after that is a bit sketchy, as this is where the worst of the fire damage happened. Regrowth is definitely happening but it is still a sad sight to see. About a half mile past that the fire stayed above the canyon all the way to the Ruins, most of the original trail remains except in a couple of spots here and there. Took a few minutes at Roger's Canyon Spring looking for the old corral but was not able to find it. The nice flow of water stopped at the spring but came back up at the ruins. The last half mile of trail past the ruins is non existent so I walked in the creek bed to make it easier. Got to Angels Basin and took a lunch break. Tall grass everywhere at Angel Basin just waiting for another fire to come through. Took about 20 minutes to trying to find the Angel Basin Corral and troughs, however after walking through cat claw fields while wearing shorts for 20 minutes, I turned around without any luck and started back out. I had forgotten how much I hate the hike out, it is all uphill and when you are already tired it SUCKS! lol. Saw a couple of groups who camped in Angel Basin and one at the ruins. I was surprised to see a Subaru Forester at the TH. They have more balls then I do to drive that up there. :lol:

dry Roger's Creek Dry Dry
Dry at this part, however, there was light flow below the spring and past the ruins.
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Jan 04 2021
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 Phoenix, AZ
West Pinto Trail #212 - SuperstitionsGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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desertadaptedTriplogs 23
Backpack26.25 Miles 5,300 AEG
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Loop hike of West Pinto, Rogers Canyon, Reavis Ranch, Fireline, and Campaign Trails.

Started at Miles TH. The first three miles of West Pinto are extremely well maintained. Once you hit fire damage, though, there's a bunch of cat claw. I only cut back what I couldn't readily get around, and it still took a fair bit of time. The trail must have been gorgeous before the fires. Route finding is sometimes a challenge when the trail follows the creek, so GPS is a must. Once the trail leaves the creek and starts heading steeply uphill, trail conditions improved. I averaged maybe 1.5 miles/and hour for most of it with the shrub-killing and route-finding and was exhausted by the time I made it down to Rogers Canyon.

Rogers Canyon was pretty busy (maybe 15 cars at the Rogers Trough TH). But once I made the turnoff up Reavis, I was back to the solitary life. The wind was mild enough that I could make camp at Reavis Saddle.

It's interesting seeing the changes from the fire on the Reavis trail, and I was relieved to see how much of the forest survived. It was cold enough hiking through that basin that there was ice in my water bottles just from the period I was walking (there was no ice overnight). Glad I camped at the Saddle!

The Fireline is actually in good shape - I had not expected that given the fire damage. Where the fire didn't hit, there are sections of overgrowth that were there ~3 years ago, so no change there. There are some sections where catclaw is taking over, but relatively few. Now, the Fireline was never my favorite trail -- I thought it was too steep and exposed before the fire, but I wouldn't say that the burn has made it materially worse. Yet.

The Campaign Trail was pretty miserable. I had never been on the section from Fireline to West Pinto before (the section from Fireline to Reavis Gap was amazing pre-fire, but I understand it's terrible now from reading HAZ triplogs). Route finding was very tough while the trail followed the creek. A lot of trail seems to be gone now. GPS is a must. When you leave the creek for good, trail conditions improve substantially.

Overall, West Pinto and the section of Campaign I was on were a slog. With that said, I feel some sense of guilt/responsibility to keep going back to the now-crappy parts of the Supes to try to (very) modestly cut things back. I kind of feel like we lost some great trails in the Whites because they were too far from most people to allow the sort of everyday minor trail maintenance that can keep a trail from going to seed after a big fire. I just need time to forget how unpleasant some of that trail was!
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 Phoenix, AZ
Supes New Years, AZ 
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BiFrostTriplogs 1,069
Backpack24.95 Miles 5,474 AEG
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New Years in the Supes starting at Woodbury trailhead. Hiked in JF Trail up to Tortialla Pass. Took a break at the pass before dropping down to Angel Basin. Despite the fire trail is in good shape on the top part but once it drops into the canyon things get messy. Cat claw is especially bad in spots before Angel Basin. There was no one at the basin and also no water. Could have been some up Rogers Canyon but we didn't look. We then headed downstream to the Fish Creek confluence and again no water. Once at camp we dropped packs and continued down Fish Creek and after about 10 minutes found some small but quality pools to filter from. After filling up on water headed back to camp and settled in for the night.

Next day the goal was to continue hiking down Fish Creek to an exit spot. We were not sure if there would be any obstacles in Fish Creek but it was actually very easy canyon hike to the exit. At the exit it's about 400 feet elevation gain to the JF Trail and Hoolie Bacon junction. From there we hiked uphill on JF Trail which had considerable fire damage but still able to follow the trail. Ran into 2 couples from out of state backpacking and talked to them for a bit. Then continued on JF which eventually tops out at Tortilla Pass. Then we repeated a portion of the hike from the previous day. Going through Angel Basin again we ran into 3 backpackers that were planning to camp at the basin. We continued on to camp and another nice but colder night at camp.

In the morning I ventured up Rough Canyon about 1/4 mile and found some additional water pools at confluence of Fish Creek and Rough Canyon. After the short hike headed back to camp and we packed up to hike out. Pretty easy hike out being only about 8 miles. Although much of the Supes is burned seems like most of the foliage in the canyon bottom survived along with some of the camp spots.

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Small Pools right at the confluence of Rough Canyon and Fish Creek.
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Dec 31 2020
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Supes New Years Day1, AZ 
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BiFrostTriplogs 1,069
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Hiked into Upper Fish Creek on Thursday New Years Eve. Nice camp spot at Fish Creek and Rogers confluence. Rest of the triplog and photoset is on the second half.
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Dec 20 2020
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 Phoenix, AZ
Rogers Canyon - JF Trail LoopGlobe, AZ
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ShatteredArmTriplogs 198
Run/Jog14.73 Miles 2,953 AEG
Run/Jog14.73 Miles   4 Hrs   43 Mns   3.12 mph
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Hadn't been to Woodbury TH before, so decided to check it out. I have also been curious about the condition of Rogers Canyon and Angel Basin since the fire; it was pretty torched at the Reavis junction.

Started with the road section in order to get it out of the way; outside of one giant flock of OHVs, the traffic wasn't bad.

As mentioned, the canyon is in bad shape at Reavis junction. Fortunately, within a mile or so, the condition improved greatly. In places you'd forget there was even a fire, if it weren't for the parts of the trail in the creek bed being wiped out.

Angel Basin wasn't in terrible shape, at least at the Frog Tanks junction. Just past the first side canyon heading west, it gets pretty badly torched again. Stopped by Angel Spring to check it out, no flow.

The first mile heading up out of Angel Basin has some pretty miserable catsclaw, but once leaving the bottom of the canyon, it's not too bad. View from Tortilla Pass was nice, and the way down was not particularly smooth.

dry Angel Spring Dry Dry
There are a couple of pools, no flow. Could make do if in a pinch.

dry Roger's Creek Dry Dry
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Dec 19 2020
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Rogers Canyon - JF Trail LoopGlobe, AZ
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I haven't been out to Angel Basin in a while so this loop was overdue. The hike up to Tortilla Pass seems to drag on but the temperature was nice. The JF trail was rocky but easy enough to follow. There was a short catclaw gauntlet nearing Angel Basin but that's normal for that area. Chris and I made up to the ruins and had not seen any hikers yet. After a break for lunch we continued up Rogers Canyon pointing out other ruin locations and the Ore Cart mine. We passed several hikers coming down the trail. There were not as many hikers out as I would expect on a Saturday. After making it to Rogers Trough trailhead we continued down Fr 172A to the Upper Woodbury trailhead. The road is rough in spots but I could drive it. :lol: The upper section of Woodbury trail is easy going and I think we made up some time in the last few miles.
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 Mesa, AZ
Rogers Canyon - JF Trail LoopGlobe, AZ
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I first hiked this back in 2004, today it seemed alot longer than I remembered. Wally and I started at Woodbury and hiked clockwise. JF isn't too bad, but maybe that was because we'd started with that. It was pretty rocky, which always slows me down. All the fire damage from 2 summers ago is very faint.

We got to the ruins in just under 4 hours. The leaves in the stream bed below pile up in their own kind of pools, making for mild hazards as you step in them. We climbed up to the ruins, but for the last bit of the ascent I decided against going further. The exposure had me uncomfortable especially with my backpack shifting around. I've been in the twice before, that's enough. Below we found some sherds and other possible tools. The one sherd had some color on it.

After lunch we'd headed up Rogers Canyon. Wally pointed out the upper ruins and some others that he's found over the years. Nice to make note of that if I ever decide to go searching. Today I was content with the power of my zoom lens for some good pics.

It was a bit of a slog on the way up to Rogers Trough, then still a slog down the road over to Woodbury. I still can't decide if it's me getting older or it's been so long that I don't remember how difficult it was 16 years ago. Probably a bit of both. Nice to be out in the Supes again and hike with someone.
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Nov 07 2020
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 Pine, AZ
Reavis w a side of Rogers, AZ 
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It’s been a hot minute since I’ve been backpacking and when Kara invited us on this trip, I was pretty excited. Seeing the orchard and eating an apple off the tree was a bucket list item for me, so checking that off was very satisfying! We saw that there was rain in the forecast and almost bailed on the trip. The forecast was really erratic but we ultimately decided to go for it. The road to Rogers Trough TH isn’t THAT bad, with the exception of two really hairy spots (especially one huge bumpy rut). There’s no way a passenger car could make it there, but we did get there in a Subaru! Thankfully the rain held off through our entire hike in! :y: We hiked approx 8 miles on day 1 with our packs, from the trailhead to our campsite at Reavis Ranch. There were a few other groups out there, but mostly enjoyed some nice solitude out in the wilderness. Seeing the fire damage along the trail was sad; however, the trail wasn’t in too bad of shape, minus a few areas that were washed out. The Ridgeline / Reavis saddle portion was crazy windy (hold on to your hat!) There were cairns to keep you on track in the confusing parts. I will also note that the trail is narrow with steep drop offs in a couple of sections, so careful footing is important. After we dropped off our packs at our campsite, I cracked open a Truly and we frolicked around checking out all of the old machinery, the foundation and enjoyed both red and yellow apples right off the trees! There weren’t too many left, so we were very happy to each have one to taste! The bears seemed to really be enjoying the apples, as there was scat everywhere. Sadly, we didn’t get to see any bears this trip. We ran into a fun group that told us about their annual thanksgiving in the Supes (t.i.t.s) backpacking trips pre Covid. They had carried in a guitar and a huge feast. Also ran into fellow hiker Tom and his hiking partner, who had just come from circlestone. We asked if it was worth it and his answer was a bit meh, so we opted to not tack on the additional mileage to make it over there. Once we had our fill of apples and ancient relics, we headed back to camp and started cooking dinner. It got cold FAST at night and we all had to layer up to stay warm. We were in our tents around 8:30pm because it was just so cold! We got a late start the next morning but finally got our stuff packed up and ready to go around 10am. We started the hike out with nice weather, just a tad chilly on the ridgeline/saddle again. James and I made the decision to detour to Rogers Canyon to see the ruins, so we said our goodbyes to the rest of the group and headed down to our 5 mile side trip. We were able to stash our packs which was certainly helpful, but this was not an easy treck for non fresh legs. The “trail” to the dwellings was completely destroyed and easy to lose track of. There was a lot of navigating around boulders, mild scrambling, tons of cat claw and was just really draining terrain for tired legs. We finally arrived at the dwellings and after checking them out and taking photos, we realized it was already 4pm. We still had the hike back to the main trail, then the climb out to the TH, so it was pretty nerve wracking. After I had a pretty brutal catclaw stuck in my upper thigh, tears started streaming down my face and I realized I was just completely drained. It probably wasn’t the best idea to do that side trip, but I’m glad we got to see the dwellings. We got back to our packs just before sunset and then started the hike out. It got dark quickly so we were hiking by headlamp. I’m very thankful I had trekking poles since they really helped with all the uphill on the way out. We finally finished the hike and were super happy to be finished, but we had the drive out in the dark and that definitely wasn’t ideal. Thankfully, we got through the tough spots okay and got off the road before the rain started. Overall it was a great trip and I’m proud of what my body handled over two days! :)
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Dec 22 2019
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Mound Mountain PeakGlobe, AZ
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ShatteredArmTriplogs 198
Run/Jog20.61 Miles 3,802 AEG
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I had been wanting to get to the top of Mound Mountain since I visited Circlestone 3-4 years back, and the opportunity presented itself yesterday. Moreso than Mound Mountain, I wanted to see what this area looks like post-Woodbury fire.

Rogers Trough itself looked largely intact, but a half mile down canyon, the devastation started, first with massive washouts, and then with completely destroyed vegetation. Rogers Canyon got pretty demolished.

Since Reavis Grave is said to be really easy to find now, so we kept an eye out... And sure enough, we stumbled on it just before the trail starts climbing out of the canyon. Spent a few minutes here, then continued... The stretch of trail up to the saddle got pretty beat up, with washouts in each of the side canyons.

Down into Reavis Creek, the first half mile or so was pretty wrecked, but then we started seeing patches of unburned pine trees. Not great, but better than I was expecting. Quite a bit of new material has been deposited in the creek, and a lot of it is almost unrecognizable.

Fireline trail had some really badly eroded stretches, but the Pine Creek drainage looks to have been mostly spared. The trail out to Circlestone is mostly burned, but the immediate vicinity was not.

Leaving Circlestone was new territory for me, we just headed for the Ponderosas (there's a good unburned patch downslope from Mound), and then up through some scratchy oak to the summit ridge to an outcropping, and then an easy traverse to the summit. Took about 30 minutes from Circlestone to Mount Mtn; all things considered it's a pretty easy bushwhack.

The way back was a little quicker; below the grave I decided to just stay in the wash, which used to be choked with vegetation, but is now nice and wide (it even had running water).

Whoever goes up there next...bring a pen for the register. It is currently without one.
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