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Ash Creek Trail #9705 - 2 members in 4 triplogs have rated this an average 2.5 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Aug 09 2014
joebartels
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 Joined Nov 20 1996
 Phoenix, AZ
Gaddes Canyon - Ash Creek Loop, AZ 
Gaddes Canyon - Ash Creek Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Aug 09 2014
joebartels
Hiking17.20 Miles 3,940 AEG
Hiking17.20 Miles   10 Hrs   30 Mns   1.86 mph
3,940 ft AEG   1 Hour   15 Mns Break14 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
This summer adventure falls within 80 miles of the valley. It opened my eyes to a few opportunities south of Mingus. It was nice to get in a cooler weather hike after months in the skillet.

The drive in is easily within 2wd-HC in dry conditions. Looks like it could get sloppy under deluge.

We headed up to 6959. Unexpectedly witnessed stellar views of Mingus with a San Francisco Peaks background. The Verde Valley was filled with smoke and Fraleys to round out the scene. The idea was to beeline down to #114. Bruce didn't care for my planned route through chaparral. The bypass started off wicked cool through storybook oaks. Our feet crunched through eight inch deep leaves. Which made the steep descent enjoyable. I was tempted to take the Nestea plunge. Unfortunately part of getting old involves wisdom. Those underlying rocks would have wrecked havoc.

At the bottom of the disneyland of oaks we unknowingly entered private property on a well maintained dirt road. Within minutes a calm yet understandingly disturbed property owner let us know we were trespassing. In my posted GPS Route I have included a legal alternative through "Burnt Canyon".

Onwards to Black Canyon Trail #114 for a short stint then on to one of my favorites Gaddes Canyon Two Trail #9037. Then into new terrain on the southern two-thirds of...

Gaddes Canyon #110
Wow. Roll the dice and watch the money fly. I've hiked the upper third many times without a clue about this gem. Sweeping views. Gorgeous stretches under canopy or aside enchanting trees. Somewhere in the 7,300 foot range is just dreamy.

Nearby sounds of birds chirping to not so distant rapid fire automatic rifles held our attention. Naturally I allowed Bruce to block, I mean enjoy, the artillery side of the trail.

Kendall Peak
"Nice", no comparison to 6959.

Ash Canyon Trail #539
This is a great canyon. Trail maintenance is not great, certainly not difficult either. Our route continued past the designated trail. Which looking back is probably why the cairns stopped.

Thumping rain drops entered the mix. The mind races through thoughts. The "I'm tired" mentality turned to please let this be over. With a ten percent forecast I opted to forego the umbrella in favor of a dollar rain jacket ( plastic bag ). More of a concern was the route "out" of this loop I created... it was seriously messing with my enthusiasm. The plastic rain bag worked well. Uphill would be a sweaty mess. Downhill was perfect. Better than an umbrella in keeping you dry from brushing friendly foliage. I would opt for an umbrella though as the crunchy bag noise was slight torture. Ear plugs!

In the end it all worked out. We got lucky. Aside from the private property segment I recommend this loop for those seeking to see the terrain.
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Ash Canyon Spring Dripping Dripping
We didn't see the spring specifically. It may be under a pool. There was plenty to filter.
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Aug 09 2014
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 Far NE Phoenix,
South of Mingus Mtn Loop - from Fr132, AZ 
South of Mingus Mtn Loop - from Fr132, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Aug 09 2014
The_Eagle
Hiking18.02 Miles 4,080 AEG
Hiking18.02 Miles   10 Hrs   32 Mns   1.89 mph
4,080 ft AEG   1 Hour    Break16 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
It was Joe's week and he came up with a beauty.

After he proposed it to me, he quickly recanted, saying he thought FR 132 was 4x4. I looked at the Sat. view and it looked fine, then checked the interweb and found a Youtube video, taken that day, which filmed the road almost completely from where we'd be driving. (What are the chances)... All looked good.

We started our off trail with an easy climb up what appeared to be an old fire break. The only thing you needed to watch out for was the small easy to miss Agave, which got me. I stepped on one, it broke off from the bottom of my shoe while embedded in my foot. I couldn't get my shoe off with the agave through both, so Joe used some pliers to extract it.

The 360 views from atop of 6959 were incredible.. After checking out the planned exit, we opted for for a less brushy route down to the west. We followed numerous game routes down the sweet forested area, until it opened up to a used two track. A few minutes later we were informed by the owner of the property that we were trespassing (no signs were seen). We explained our situation to the land owner and he let us pass through to our destination. He has a sweet little area back there.

Up the Black Canyon Trail #114 to the Gaddes Canyon Two #9307. I been on these before and have enjoyed them every time. The other times we've done these trails the sign of Bears were everywhere. This time....no sign what-so-ever.

Next we make the turn on to a section of the Gaddes Canyon Trail #110 that I had not been on before. It hops off the ridge with sweet views of Burnt Canyon. Once again, like many times before, I was used as a Teva Shield. There was hundreds of rounds of automatic rifle fire echoing in the canyon below.

West On FR413, to FR132, to the turnoff for Kendall Peak. We signed in and took lunch there.

The Ash Canyon Trail #539 was a pleasant stroll and cairned well.

The Ash Creek Trail #9705 was less of a trail, but you are following Ash Creek, so no Route finding issues. It wouldn't be a Summer hike with Joe if Thunder, Lightning, Rain and Hail weren't involved. So we had about 45 minutes of that. The temps at this time dropped to a nice 63 degrees....

Now the fun... Joe had it drawn up to follow a drainage back up to FR132. It went pretty easy for a quarter mile, then the canyon started getting real thick, with no indication of letting up. Joe suggested, and luckily I agreed to jump out and climb up high on the ridge. We found paths through the scrub, until we lucked out and found an area where they were re-stringing a fence and had cut out all the brush around it! This probably saved us at least an hour of hell.

:next: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO9us7WItlA

Pleasant hiking with mostly cloudy sky's all day with temps were in the 80's most of the day, but dropped into the low 60's during and after the rain. That's some good weather for August!
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Ash Canyon Spring Dripping Dripping
Plenty of pooling in the area. Flow not noticed.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Burnt Tank 1-25% full 1-25% full
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Gaddes Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Very isolated pools from recent rains
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 Avondale,Az
Medlar Springs Trail #9706Prescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 08 2014
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Hiking8.50 Miles 1,750 AEG
Hiking8.50 Miles   3 Hrs   45 Mns   2.43 mph
1,750 ft AEG      15 Mns Break10 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
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I had to finish what I started.....

I first started at the GPS coordinates of the Medlar TH. There is no real parking, or Trailhead markings. So I decided to start in a location to where I felt safer parking.
I hiked the Medlar Springs Trail to the end, then backtracked to the Ash Creek TrailHead. I then hiked the Ash Creek trail to the point of where I turned around back in October. ( http://hikearizona.com/gps=25181 ) Trail finding can be a pain in some areas.
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 Avondale,Az
Ash Canyon-Creek Trendall Peak, AZ 
Ash Canyon-Creek Trendall Peak, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 22 2013
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Hiking16.81 Miles 3,570 AEG
Hiking16.81 Miles   9 Hrs   45 Mns   1.82 mph
3,570 ft AEG      30 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
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The plans
My original plans where to Hike Medlar Springs to the end, back track to Ash Creek #9705,then off trail hike to Ash Canyon Trail #549. Round trip, just under 20 miles. A couple weeks after planning this, i see a post by Mr "The Yeti" mentioning Kendall Peak. I then plotted a course to Kendall, and if I had the time I would complete this trail.(around 1.3 extra miles)

What happened.
I got off work at 11pm Monday Night, and headed up to Sunset Point for a nap. I was already packed, I just had to stop at a store to get some supplies. I left Sunset point around 4:45am and headed toward the Midlar Springs Trail Head. I just got My 4 wheel-drive fixed, so I picked the roughest way I could find to the Trail Head. This worked out great. I got some 4x4 time, and had all day to get a good hike in. Until........
I passed a sign saying "Bottle Ranch, Please help us keep it clean". I knew there was a ranch at the end of the Forest Road. The next sign reads Bottle Ranch, Private property.. I stopped to think for a bit. I could park here , and start my hike. I though it would add at least 1 mile each way to the trip.(actually only adding .5 miles total) I decided to turn around and head to the Ash Canyon trail head. It was around 28 miles to go around, most on dirt Forest roads. This took over an hour. During the hike, I had plenty of time to think about the Private Property sign. It didnt say No trespassing, I was on a Forest Service Road, and this trail is on the Prescott Forest Website. Im sure It would have been ok, to start hiking at Medlar Springs TrailHead. It was early in the morning, and I didnt think this threw.

[ gps route ] (Dont know how to post a Generic Desc to a Generic GPS)
The Hike.
0-2.8 miles. I started hiking around 7:15. Around .5 miles I realized I was off the Ashe Canyon trail. I was following the Hunters Tree Markings. The trail was taking me towards Kendall Peak. I was going to save this for last. The unnamed trail didnt take me to the peak, but close enough I could bushwack a bit up to the top. The peak does have some great views of the area. I remembered Preston the Yeti mentioning a Registry, I wasnt sure if it was at the top of Kendall, or at the TrailHead. I hiked about 1/2 mile back and forth at the
top, looking for this registry. I then hiked down the trail, to the trailhead. I looked again this so called registry. I still couldnt find it. From here I decided to go off trail back to Ash Canyon, instead of hiking the Forest Road to the start. Lucky me, I found a pair of sunglasses,on this off trail portion. These glasses would end up being a life saver, later into the trip.
2.8-6.3-7.25 miles. This part of the trip was easy to follow. I did get off trail at the 4.1 mark. I noticed the creek was getting real difficult. I looked at my GPS and noticed that the trail went over a hill, to cut this part of the creek out of the trail. 6.3 to 7.25 where backtracking. I did find a tennis ball around the 6.4 mile mark.
7.25-9.25. From looking at topo maps, and google, I thought that the 7.25-7.5 mile part of the trip was going to be difficult. I thought it was going to be bushwacking and off trail to go from Ash Canyon trail to the Ash Creek trail. There ended up having a trail the whole way, very easy.
9.75-10.25 This area realy sucked. Bush wacking finding my own way down. Very slow going.
10.25-11.1 There seamed to be a trail here, but it was slow going. I turned around at 1:12 at 11.1 miles.
11.1-12.4 Not wanting to go back the way I came, and trying to saves some time, I started looking for another possible way back. At 11.2 I noticed I could take an alternate route. I knew I was going to have to bushwhack a lot. I ended up climbing 500ft with out a trail(5486-5986ft), bushwhacking the whole way. My legs where tore up before this part, now they are on fire!!!! This is where the sunglasses saved me. I was going threw some tough areas. I'm sure my face and eyes would have been scratched up if it wasn't for these glasses. The short cut was worth it. It seam to save some time and milage.
12.4-16.8 This part was real easy going. I didnt have to look at the GPS very often. At 16.25, I crossed paths with a family of bears... Im sure they where watching me for a bit. When I got close to them, they ran down from the hill away from me, crossed the creek, then started up the other side. They stopped there and waited to see what my next move was. I stood still, and just watched them as they where watching me. Then the family went around the hill and started circling around me. At this point they where out of sight, but I could hear them running. I crossed to the other side of the creek, and headed up the hill. Finally they appeared on top of a hill. Mother bear climbed a tree to take a better look at me. I just stood there and watched for a couple seconds. She finally left and I didnt hear from them again.

Even with the cuts and bruises, I did enjoy the whole trip. I will do the Medlar Springs Trail and finish Ash Creek trail another time.
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