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Camp Grasshopper - Sierra Ancha FR235-C/Site#2 - 1 member in 7 triplogs has rated this an average 4 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Oct 28 2019
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75 male
 Joined Dec 28 2006
 Scottsdale, AZ
Camp Grasshopper - Sierra Ancha FR235-C/Site#2Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Oregon_Hiker and my planned Mon-10/28 exploratory hike passed by my small tent camping site up from the Billy Lawrence TH at the end of FR235. I originally camped here for a week period in May'13. The Sierra Ancha Wilderness near and distant views and sunrises are to die for at this choice camping location. One should also expect a few ATVs and side-by-sides driving by this dead end two track if one remains in camp during the day.

For anyone else who might be interested in considering this high clearance, 4WD only one tent campsite, I thought it might be a good idea to update the campsite area with some revised pictures and here they are :)
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Aug 16 2016
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 Joined Feb 28 2003
 Tucson, AZ
Sierra Ancha Sunrise, AZ 
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Since I had pretty good cell service up there I decided to try something different this trip: posting photos from the cell phone directly to HAZ as the day went on. Not used to doing this, so it took awhile to figure it out, but turned out OK. The most frustrating part was how long it took to upload the photos. Burned a lot of time playing with the phone...much prefer doing this after I get home. That way I can better evaluate the photos and make adjustments (not to mention using camera shots vs phone which I like better). Anyway, it was sort of fun and interesting to be posting from "in the field."

In general, I was greatly relieved to see the post fire conditions of the places I enjoy visiting up there. :) Lots of debris came down across both Reynolds Creek and Workman Creek Roads, but with a lot of blading and cleanup effort, the roads were in fine shape on my visit. This obviously will be an ongoing operation for awhile, as new big rain events will alter things again.

More triplogs and photos to follow.
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Aug 15 2016
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 Joined Feb 28 2003
 Tucson, AZ
Camp Grasshopper - Sierra Ancha FR235-C/Site#2Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Billy Lawrence Interlude

Nice to see things just about the same as they were last time I was here in 2010 (with the exception of an upgraded memorial and some recent fire activity). :) Again, the fire was mellow through this spot on the rim, but not so on the slopes below, which showed much greater reduction of vegetation. The views down to Cherry Creek drainage and beyond are excellent and make this a good camp spot.

Storms left me alone, but the mice didn't. :lol: It was a warm breezy night, with a low temperature of 67 degrees.
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 Joined May 04 2004
 Mesa, AZ
Camp Grasshopper - Sierra Ancha FR235-C/Site#2Globe, AZ
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We camped up here 6/15/13 and were impressed by the condition of FR235. As of this writing a reasonable clearance 2WD car could easily make it all the way to the Billy Lawrence TH. We even saw 2WD pickups at the Camp Grasshopper #2 site. While in our tent we overheard a guy on an ATV say the road was good enough he'd pull his camping/toy-hauler trailer up here next time. (Not exactly a good idea, not for the road, but to take over the campsite area)
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May 15 2013
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 Joined Dec 28 2006
 Scottsdale, AZ
Camp Grasshopper - Sierra Ancha FR235-C/Site#2Globe, AZ
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This Wed-5/15 to Mon-5/20 (5nt/6day) camping and hiking trip was a few months in the planning.

Since my first visit to our Sierra Ancha Wilderness in May'07 and prior-to this trip, I had always planned only long day hiking trips from our Phoenix area which made for very long days with most always late after dark returns. Oregon Hiker had made a few previous trips up to this area to camp and hike and after some discussions I was convinced that we should plan a "Camp Grasshopper" style trip for a more extended period. I also wanted to invite others to join us, but I was a little concerned with coordinating logistics, the type of some off-trail hikes we were planning, and the fact that this visit would be my first time G/H Camping in an area location that I could not clearly recall the layout of for a group type campsite (this remote 4WD access FR235 Billy Lawrence TH area).

My suspicions were correct and as it turned-out for this week visit, it was best that we planned this trip as we did. We did locate an awesome group campsite just off FR235 and only 3.1 high-clearance vehicle miles (when dry) in from Hwy 288.. http://hikearizona.com/decoder.php?ZTN=17734 at 6050ft elevation. My hopes are to be able to schedule a future year 2014 group outing to this vehicle camp location for other to also enjoy some of what this so diverse and rugged wilderness area has to offer.

For this May'13 trip, we had wonderful spring weather conditions (at 6774ft camp elevation- lows in the high 40's-low 50's & day highs in the upper 70's-low 80's) with no rain in the forecast, minimal campsite winds, with excellent, remote, and scenic campsite high cliff morning and afternoon view areas :D

For our planned day outings, all hikes were partially on existing trails and partially off-trail to areas that neither one of us had previously visited. It was also very enjoyable and rewarding for me to do some of the HAZ- "Route Manager" map and satellite GPS planning efforts for our trip. During our week stay, I was able to hike with Oregon Hiker the top four of seven day hike options we had to choose from..all new areas to explore and very rewarding as expected.

New HAZ Hike Descriptions- Trip Logs- Photosets- GPS Routes to come for others to hopefully also enjoy :)
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Mar 16 2013
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63 male
 Joined Jul 28 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
Sierra Ancha, AZ 
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Hiking avatar Mar 16 2013
mazatzal
Hiking23.00 Miles 5,100 AEG
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Spent 3 days in Sierra Ancha and had a great time. There was tons of water everywhere and quite a bit of snow left over in places. Reynolds was really flowing and Workman Falls were the biggest I've seen them.

Day 1: We set up camp along FR 235 and then take a trip out to the end of 235 and explore a couple of old mining areas. Unfortunately, we didn't make it all the way down to Pueblo and Lucky Strike mines. Along a separate trail in the area we found a memorial to John Dalton Jr.

Day 2: Did the loop with 410 to Reynolds Creek Trail to Center Mtn trail, over Center Mtn and back down 235. I'm pretty sure I've worked out where the 'secret ruin' is so I'll have to come back and check that out. Near the top of the climb up Center Mtn the views into Cherry Creek and east to the rez really open up. Very nice.

Day 3: Aztec loop: Abbey's way up, down the road to Moody and Rim trail back. Had a few spots on Abbey's and the road where we were postholing in 2-3' drifts :sweat: We saw no wildlife until the drive home when we spotted one coyote and then lower down one of the group saw 4 javelina. Stopped at Los Hermanos on the way back :)
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Jul 25 2010
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 Joined Feb 28 2003
 Tucson, AZ
Aztec Peak via Center Mountain, AZ 
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Hiking avatar Jul 25 2010
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Hiking15.00 Miles 3,200 AEG
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Back to my beloved Sierra Anchas for the second weekend in a row, this time to finally get Cindy up to meet Red at Aztec Peak and retrieve the fire lookout book I had loaned him. I almost got her up there in the spring of 2009 as part of a meetup car camp I put together, but we ended up spending too much time at Workman Creek Falls watching people rappelling and only got as far as Peterson Meadow.

Left Tucson around 11 AM Saturday for a leisurely drive up. We were looking forward to lunch at our favorite place for Mexican food in Globe, Chalo's, but found out they were closed for vacation until August 9th. So we decided to hit Libby's El Rey instead. It didn't take me long to wish I had gone to Taco Bell instead. The salsa was good, as was the service, but the food was way too greasy (stop here only if you're running a quart low). :M2C: It was so bad I was still wiping my hands miles later to keep from losing the grip on the steering wheel. :lol:

I wanted to explore something new this time, and the plan was to hike up to Aztec from Reynolds Creek. I had scoped out campsites along that road the week earlier when nobody was in there, but this time all were taken, including the primo one near the trailhead (maybe lifting the fire restrictions had something to do with that). We headed up Cienega Spring Road to the Billy Lawrence trailhead, with its great views into Cherry Creek, and since nobody was there we decided that would be the place to camp. It was perfect: great views and solitude. Looking at my maps I realized we could do the hike over to Aztec from there instead of Reynolds, with only a slight increase in distance and elevation.

So we set up camp and prepared to enjoy the evening. Unfortunately, while walking around in the creek bed near camp, Cindy slipped and fell hard, putting a deep gash on her cheek near the left eye. I turned around just as she was landing and saw her head bounce off the rock. It was scary. There was a fair amount of bleeding, so I raced back to camp and drove the truck with the first aid kits back to where she was. We cleaned the wound as best we could and got the bleeding stopped. I asked her if she wanted to call it off and head to Globe, but her decision was to stay in camp and see how it went. An extra dosage of ibuprofen helped with the pain and we kept track of the wound and bleeding as the evening went on. Needless to say this put a real damper on the mood, but we managed to cook our dinners and hang out by the fire until around 11pm or so.

As usual I was up early at about 5am, out taking pictures and making a pot of coffee (with a mug delivered to her tent door when she woke up). Her head was still hurting in the morning, so I asked her if she wanted to try the hike or just break camp and drive over to Aztec Peak instead. After breakfast and packing the gear into the truck, she decided to try the hike. We set out at 10am on new trails to us.

From the Billy Lawrence trailhead it was about half mile on the Lucky Strike Trail (old mine road) to where the Center Mountain Trail starts. The Center Mountain Trail was a pleasant surprise, as it goes over Center Mountain then down right along the edge of the cliffs with the great views into the Cherry Creek drainage, before dropping down to join the Reynolds Creek Trail. Things were wet and green from the summer rains, but the best was yet to come. Reynolds Creek had a good flow as we climbed toward Knoles Hole. I was blown away by this section! It was so lush and wet, with large old growth trees and a tangle of shrubs, vines, and grasses. Lots of large raspberries were encountered, as well as some blackberries! The blackberries were very sweet. Simply one of the neatest little pockets of natural bliss I have seen in Arizona! After topping out at about 7500 feet, it was a gradual descent to the road at the old Murphy Ranch. The most boring part of the day was the road walk up to Aztec Peak.

So Cindy finally got to meet Red! We had a nice visit and he told me he really enjoyed reading the book and showing it to tower visitors. We happened to be in the tower when all the towers had to give their weather reports when called. That was neat. It started raining as we left the tower, but soon let up when we walked over for a food break at the Flintstone furniture. It was time to head back and we admired the great scenery for a second time. Stopped to have a beer on Center Mountain for the homestretch. Got back to the truck at 730pm, as the daylight was almost gone. Cindy showed real grit doing this hike under the circumstances. :worthy: She was hurting, but happy. It was a fantastic hike!

What I saw on this trip guarantees I will be back to do more exploring. :)

We finally got back to Tucson around midnight.
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