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Rim TR 139 to Coon Creek Cny Overlooks - 2 members in 5 triplogs have rated this an average 4 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Jun 27 2020
chumley
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47 male
 Joined Sep 18 2002
 Tempe, AZ
Locust, AZ 
Locust, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jun 27 2020
chumley
Hiking11.66 Miles 2,374 AEG
Hiking11.66 Miles   4 Hrs   59 Mns   2.68 mph
2,374 ft AEG      38 Mns Break
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1st trip
Well this one was an unexpected adventure.

151 was cleared of the deadfall we had to navigate the last time here. But now it was largely overgrown with NM Locust and raspberries (a little early on 151 yet). It was hiking in a tunnel from above the orchard to halfway up the switchbacks.

The road to Murph was the clearest stretch of the day. 141 had seen some work at some point but was also largely a locust tunnel. Cuts were not limited to legs as thorns reached 8 feet high. Glasses or goggles would have helped and blood was drawn from head to toe. The raspberries on 141 and 139 were closer to ripe. Blackberries here too.

Not surprisingly, plenty of sign of bear, though no sightings. Just a couple of deer along the way. The overlooks were a bit warm in the sun today, but still nice. And the rocky exposure was locust-free! :y: Next up we hit a drainage full of unavoidable poison ivy which was an unexpected surprise.

The climb up 139 to the road was half locust and half sun-blasted. It was nice to top out and get a quarter mile of lovely grassy shade forest. Quick work back down the road to the truck.

I'd do this one again after a good trimming. Or maybe in cooler weather when pants and long sleeves make more sense.

Don't know if @beebee is out this weekend but there was a group on the peak participating in "field day", a global radio event this weekend. They make connections with others as far as Europe and Australia. Cool stuff I guess.
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Aztec Peak Fire Lookout
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Aug 18 2018
The_Eagle
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64 male
 Joined Jan 20 2009
 Far NE Phoenix,
Tour de Anca, AZ 
Tour de Anca, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Aug 18 2018
The_Eagle
Hiking12.94 Miles 2,588 AEG
Hiking12.94 Miles   7 Hrs   13 Mns   2.12 mph
2,588 ft AEG   1 Hour   7 Mns Break
 
1st trip
Preamble
This area always has been and will be a special place to me. Remote, beautiful, BIG views.

We did this loop in a CCW direction for the first time.

Parker Creek Trail #160
Evidence of rain the night before had the flora wet at the top. This added to the jungle humidity and wet shoes.
This was a short drop to meet with the rim trail.

Rim Trail #139
5 miles and 800'+ AEG with many scenic view spots off the rim. That's been the attraction for me.
Now, the official GPS track and long pants a a requirement. The trail has disappeared in spots and the fresh, green, thorny locust became way annoying.

Murphy Ranch Trail #141
1.25 miles and 650' AEG to the old Murphy Ranch
This seemed to be the most humid part of the day and a climb and the clouds would not cooperate.
Lunch looking over the apple orchard, was the best temps of the day

Reynolds Creek Trail #150
1.15 miles and 375' AEG
In decent shape for the most part. We took this to the signed junction for the unnamed? trail that takes you to the rim.

Unnamed? Trail
We went out far enough to get views checking out the rumble in the sky. I got enough of a signal to check the radar. We opted to cut it short and make it back to the Truck.

We scrambled up to Murphy 7732 and over to Aztec Peak. Lightning was crackling, so not good to be up top.

Abby's way Trail #151
Less than 2 miles to go and the rain started. It was never more than light. Rumors of this trail being cleared since the last time we were through are true. All the big stuff is gone. What remains are just a few easy ones to hop over, that have fallen since.... and 5 miles (ok, under 2) of agonizing wet raspberry bushes scraping against already torn up legs.

We saw quite a few White Tails, with one huge buck, still in velvet

Take aways
Long pants
Cooler weather/Lower humidity
Good GPS track
Trails need some love
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Jul 16 2014
CannondaleKid
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 Joined May 04 2004
 Mesa, AZ
Rim Trail #139 LoopGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 16 2014
CannondaleKid
Hiking8.80 Miles 1,772 AEG
Hiking8.80 Miles   5 Hrs   36 Mns   1.62 mph
1,772 ft AEG      10 Mns Break25 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
After getting away with an early morning hike before afternoon T-storms in the Sierra Ancha on Saturday, we figured why not try it again. But this time we wanted a hike we had not done before, and hopefully a loop of some kind. With a few different ideas, all of which would mean taking the Cherokee instead of the Fit, we got another early start from Mesa and almost exactly 2 hours later we found ourselves at the Carr Trailhead.

The plan was to hike the Rim Loop from Carr TH starting on Trail #160 (Parker Creek Trail), turn left onto Trail #139 (Rim Trail) and follow it to Trail #140 (Moody Trail) which we would take back up to Moody TH and along FR 487 back to Carr TH.

But as usual, plans change... and when we hit the 160/139 intersection, we decided to continue on Parker Creek Trail up as far as the first ridge to do some recon for an upcoming attempt to climb Carr Peak and Carr Mountain in one trip. The trail ascended slowly and at an angle so it was pretty easy going. Once on the ridge we went far enough for a nice view down the South Fork of Parker Creek.

Ok, we've already tacked on two miles more than planned so it's time to turn around and get back on task. Once back on the Rim Trail right away we saw mountain lion tracks with pads roughly 3-1/2" wide. The tracks were fresh since the overnight rain (I saw heavy rains on weather radar last night) but they headed the opposite direction that we were, so didn't expect to see it. But we will continue to see the same tracks for over 3+ miles along the trail. We would see plenty of signs of deer and elk but would not encounter either.

With as much vegetation (trees and brush) as there is on this trail one has to keep an eye out for photo opportunities whenever they present themselves. The Palisades are is where we found the views most impressive. While seeking good viewpoints in this area we saw four Prairie Falcons, two of which were roosting.

Shortly past the Palisades area we came upon large areas of tree fall, heavy brush or both. As much as we lost and were able to relocate the trail through the tree fall, once into the heavy brush we lost it completely. After searching around a bit we found an elk trail and decided to follow it until reaching a point where it thinned out and we could head directly toward where the trail should be. As reliable as large game trails have been for us in the past, we came to an absolute dead end, where seemingly the elk backed up some distance before heading off in another direction. Since the dead end was within a hundred yards of what appeared to be an open area near where the trail should be, we decided to try and wade through the brush. big mistake... while the first part of the thicket was gray-colored brush that was old-dying and relatively easy to push through, all of a sudden I'm being poked and prodded from all directions... it moments it had changed into sharp thorny brush and I was stopped literally in my tracks, hooked from everywhere.
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Time to detach myself and backtrack as far as the elk did, and head in the opposite direction than me desired, so it took quote a bit more winding through thick brush until finally reconnecting with the trail. From there on we were cruising, which was a good thing, because again dark clouds were building and we could already hear thunder. Once we hit the Moody Trail it was just a matter of a long winding climb back up to Moody TH followed by the walk back along FR487 to the Carr TH where we began.

We hit the road and by time we reached Parker Creek TH some 5 miles down 288 the thunderstorm had already begun. By time we reached the Salt River the whole northern sky was a dark as on Saturday when the wind and hail followed us back to Globe. Only this time it seemed to stay farther north and our return trip was uneventful... if you discount the 15-20 minutes when we were stopped on US 60 just west of Top-of-the-World where a road crew had just completed respraying the yellow center stripes and was dilly-dallying around before finally pulling off to let the now some 30+ vehicles (that I eventually could see) waiting behind us.

In the end, another prefect day for hiking in the Sierra Ancha... a nice heavy rainstorm the night before so the air was crisp and clean, the trail soft underfoot and a lower humidity than Saturday, we couldn't have asked for better conditions. For us the secret to success is to get there early, get the hike in by early afternoon and leave before the monsoon storms hit.

Plenty of photos again, with 40 posted on HAZ and the full set of 85 on my web site.

Sorry, no video... Tracey won't let me post a short video of her attempting to walk up a large tree trunk before it came apart. [-X
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May 18 2013
Grasshopper
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 Joined Dec 28 2006
 Scottsdale, AZ
Rim TR 139 to Coon Creek Cny OverlooksGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar May 18 2013
Grasshopper
Hiking5.60 Miles 1,393 AEG
Hiking5.60 Miles   5 Hrs   10 Mns   1.53 mph
1,393 ft AEG   1 Hour   30 Mns Break
 
1st trip
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This was "Sierra Ancha Wilderness" new exploration area Rock-In :y: day hike number 3 of 4 for our planned vehicle camping / hiking trip 5/15 to 5/20 (5nts/6days).

I had been interested in exploring up this fairly hidden and scenic-deep canyon drainage which was off Rim Trail #139 for its upper access .. http://hikearizona.com/photo.php?ZIP=342093 and off now decommissioned Coon Creek Trail #254 for its lower access .. http://hikearizona.com/photo.php?ZIP=292502 .

In mid October, 2012, I completed quite a bit of GPS Route planning for a proposed bushwhack that would hopefully take Oregon Hiker and myself up this impressive canyon drainage from the lower access route off Coon Creek via Trail #254. On 10/24/12 Larry and I gave it a good effort and actually got pretty far in and up, but unfortunately we needed to abort our hike due to safety/risk concerns (for us older guys) and time constrains. We made it in and up far enough to see and know that we soon needed to regroup and come up with a new access route that would hopefully allow us to clearly see the upper reaches of this most intriguing and deep "unnamed" canyon drainage with its numerous cliff alcoves and caves.

This 5/18/13 exploration hike was our successful second attempt and we will hopefully be back again to see and explore for more.. :D (a now available new hike description for this one along with our geocoded picsets with detail captions/tag notes, and the "official" recommended GPS Route with key WPs tells the rest of the interesting story which will hopefully entice others interested and qualified to also consider planning a visit).
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May 18 2013
Oregon_Hiker
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 Joined Dec 07 2010
 Phoenix, AZ
Rim TR 139 to Coon Creek Cny OverlooksGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar May 18 2013
Oregon_Hiker
Hiking5.60 Miles 1,393 AEG
Hiking5.60 Miles
1,393 ft AEG
 
1st trip
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Grasshopper
Grasshopper and I had been planning this hike ever since we failed in an attempt to hike up a deep side canyon on the north side of upper Coon Creek Canyon - Too difficult and dangerous for us. This side canyon looked like a good prospect for hidden Indian cliff dwellings. I did some trip planning by plotting gps planning tracks on Google Earth. Preferring loop hikes to out-and-back I also plotted a track for the return hike straight up the hill side to FR487 picking a path through a small clearing in the brush near the crest of the hill.

It was a quick and easy hike from the Carr TH down TR160 to the intersection with the Rim Trail and then along the rim to our destination. The trail was in good shape having been extensively repaired since the Apr 2000 Coon Creek Fire. The off-trail segments of the hike along the rim of the side canyon revealed high cliffs down in the canyon with many alcoves and small caves that seemed like good locations for cliff dwellings. Unfortunately we saw no clear evidence of the ancient dwellings. Perhaps the crumbly rock of the cliffs made it too dangerous to live below them or maybe there wasn't a convenient nearby water source. Our search did not cover all possible areas in this canyon due to time constraints so perhaps we missed something - a good reason to return. The canyon views and the large window or arch, not sure of the correct designation, made the hike worth while even if we didn't find any ruins.

The return hike off-trail to the north straight up the hillside started out relatively easy through an open forest of tall pines and giant junipers. Somehow we accidentally got off our gps planning track (I was leading), probably because I don't like to hike with my nose stuck in my gps. We missed the small gap in the thicket of New Mexico Locusts near the crest of the hill where the planning track would have led us and ended up in the middle of the thorny obstacle. Rather than loose altitude by back tracking downhill to the point where we left the track, we (I) decided to thrash our way through the thorns to intersect our planning track near the crest of the hill. After about 150 yards the New Mexico Locust opened up into more widely spaced mature tree-like versions of this pest and we were soon back on track. Grasshoppers official gps track for this hike shows the planning track for this return route as well as our actual track. I recommend following the planning track which should minimize contact with the thorns although future brush growth may close off the gap seen on Google Earth.

At the crest of the hill on this return route the forest opens up into a lush grass covered meadow with scattered tall pines. This would have been an interesting area to explore if time had permitted. Early morning or evening dusk would be good times to just go sit by a game trail and look for deer and elk to pass by. There was even a convenient hunter's tree stand with solid metal ladder and a cushioned seat for such a purpose. Following the road back to the Carr TH we saw a good car camping site on the north side of the road near this meadow area.
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