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Sep 22 2018
Jim_H
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 Joined Sep 08 2006
 Phoenix, AZ
Humphrey-Philomena-AZT, AZ 
Humphrey-Philomena-AZT, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Sep 22 2018
Jim_H
Hiking8.20 Miles 3,850 AEG
Hiking8.20 Miles   7 Hrs   30 Mns   1.37 mph
3,850 ft AEG   1 Hour   30 Mns Break10 LBS Pack
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1st trip
First hike of Autumn, done entirely in the last hours of summer, concluding about 40 minutes before the sun's vertical rays crossed the equator! It sure looked and felt like fall, either way. There was still some humidity or haze, probably from the storm last week, limiting visibility, but it was nice. I guess true fall conditions would be dry with long range visibility up.

Being a Saturday, fall or summer crowds were out on the mountain, and the summit was too busy for my taste. I got use to those alone on Humphrey mid-week summits, this year. That just meant I cut visit #110 short and opted for solitude and nature time at the spring, which was flowing nicely. The collection box was dry, but just up slope you'll find the real spring, which may be frozen in a few weeks.

My route was basically a reverse of Joe's June of 2013 GPS route and hike, but I cut some fat by hiking my winter route past where the trail meets the Dutchman, and went through the bomber wreck, then I cut some more fat by going through some meadow to meet the AZT further south. I cute 2.5 miles, which felt right. I moved a lot slower than I thought I would going down, primarily due to me repeatedly losing the social or game trail, and having to cross tons of down trees. This just meant I got to listen to more nuthatches and chickadees, which was nice. This was fine, as I took my excercise going up, where I was pleased.
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Aspen in spots, starting to move along in the Inner Basin (seen from the summit) avens is mostly past prime. Give it a couple of weeks.

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Remember, the spring is above the collection box, and this freezes early in October (per experience) due to elevation.
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Jun 04 2016
joebartels
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 Joined Nov 20 1996
 Phoenix, AZ
Humphreys - Philomena - Walker Lake, AZ 
Humphreys - Philomena - Walker Lake, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jun 04 2016
joebartels
Hiking14.75 Miles 3,646 AEG
Hiking14.75 Miles   9 Hrs   21 Mns   1.80 mph
3,646 ft AEG   1 Hour   10 Mns Break
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1st trip
Nice to be in the cool pines. Much cooler than 2 days ago heading up from Lockett. Didn't seem as busy as expected. We've had to park in the nose bleed section of the Kachina lot in June many times in years past. The main lot was about 70% full at 8am. Friendly hikers throughout with several HAZ hellos! Great to meet @mr14ner, @DallinW & @adrenna! The monster gnats were fairly tame until the breeze died at the summit.

Hit up Philomena Spring and the Hot Tub Time Machine down to AZT 34. Kinna warm for 9k feet. Met some nice resourceful locals just before the AZT, then the friendliest mountain bikers on earth along the AZT to Walker Lake. The lake albeit dry turned out to be a nice gander.

Thx Ray for driving & shuttling the chariot
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Covered in snow. Could hear it gurgling and see it running 50? yards down.
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Jun 04 2016
The_Eagle
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Humphreys - Philomena - Walker Lake, AZ 
Humphreys - Philomena - Walker Lake, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jun 04 2016
The_Eagle
Hiking15.13 Miles 3,656 AEG
Hiking15.13 Miles   9 Hrs   24 Mns   1.84 mph
3,656 ft AEG   1 Hour   10 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
Parking Lot to Humphreys Saddle
4.05 miles, 2545 AEG

The lot was probable 1/3 full at our 8:10 start when Ray dropped us off. The trail was not as crowded as expected. Met HAZ members @mr14ner, @DallinW & @adrenna on the way up. Great to meet you all! Temps were perfect.

Humphreys Saddle to The Top of Arizona,12,633'
1.07 miles, 819 AEG

A 200' patch of snow to get to the peak, 72 degree temps and gnatty when the wind stopped. Two fires could be seen north of Kendrick, close to each other and two more in what I'm guessing to be the Pivot Rock areas. The Inner Basin has a bit of snow and the Aspens are greening up nicely

Top of Arizona 12,633' to Philomena Spring
.57 miles, -972 AEG

Not as bad as feared

Philomena Spring to Hot Tub Time Machine
.26 miles, -358 AEG

Dodged some snow to get here.
Time Machine has not changed in 3 years since we'd been here.

Hot Tub Time Machine to AZT#34
2.76 miles, -2333 AEG

We had to get off the unofficial trail because of snow. We Jigsawed around the snow and downfall to get back to the trail. Once out to the meadow area, we ran into the couple who unofficially take care of the trail. They said they did not get to any maintenance last year. They gave us some great info about the area and Philomena Spring. There used to be a trough system that ran over to the old ranch carrying water from Philomena Spring. My rough estimate shows that to be more that 3 miles of trough! The trough has been replaced by pipe and the pipe no longer works. There are remnants of both in the area.

AZT#34 to Walker Lake
6.42 miles, -1059 AEG (+252)

Nice to be back on a trail, and the AZT to boot!
Ray was waiting at Walker Lake when we got there.

We took a quick spin to the lake to check it out.
Walker Lake Video :next: https://youtube.com ... DkTc

Thanks for driving Ray!

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Guessing at flow, you could hear it under the rocks. The catch basin was covered in snow.

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Mud at best
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Oct 04 2014
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Philomena Spring using Humphrey Summit TrailFlagstaff, AZ
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Hiking avatar Oct 04 2014
Jim_H
Hiking8.75 Miles 2,950 AEG
Hiking8.75 Miles   8 Hrs   30 Mns   1.25 mph
2,950 ft AEG   1 Hour   30 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
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A very good hike and some new terrain was covered, which is always nice. The conditions could not have been better for this, and a bear was spotted in addition to elk and deer. Larry had trouble with his ankle and we decided to descend the other route, which proved to be a bit more scenic and was a really nice way to go. I still prefer to ascend my way, becuase I am better at knowing where I am with regard to elevation, and the views are better overall. You can go faster downhill on the game trail, however.
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I finally visited the hot tub, and spent some more time at the spring. The only draw back for this was myself thinking that I wish I had been a back country skier when I lived in Flag, but that was never a priority. The AZ trail is really nice up here, and it looks like it would be a fun bike ride. The Aspen loop is a cruel series of gentle snake curves.
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The spring is still flowing, but the small creek is dry. Ice caps part of the springs.
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Jun 29 2013
The_Eagle
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Philomena Spring - Humphreys Loop, AZ 
Philomena Spring - Humphreys Loop, AZ
 
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The_Eagle
Hiking11.46 Miles 4,076 AEG
Hiking11.46 Miles   8 Hrs   10 Mns   1.82 mph
4,076 ft AEG   1 Hour   53 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
My turn to pick and this ones been on our Radar for awhile.

We got to the Snowbowl Trailhead around 7am and were shocked to see the lot almost filled. Escaping the valley heat I guess. The Lemmings were lined up to climb the Humphreys Summit trail. We had plans to get to the top, but choose a different route.

We got on the pleasant and gentle grade of the Aspen Nature Loop and AZT# 34, taking them over to our off trail turn by the "No Snowmobile" sign. We followed the clearing and occasionally an obscure two track, to the end and started climbing the ridge.

I was surprised to find a cairned route that led directly to the spring. Careful though, there seem to be multiple cairned routes. These days it seems that the Elk are keeping the Trail going. It was freshly worn in most spots for us. we followed it until we found the pipe and then decide to follow it to find the spring.

On the edge of the woods, with views of Humphreys, we got to an area where there was a wooden container for storing water below the spring. This was 4' in diameter and about 6' tall and banded together.

We continued up hill .2 mile to the end of the pipe to what we thought was the spring, only to determine while we took a break there, that this was a catchment area. The actual spring can be found by following depression trough like area, NE 100' through the rocks. The water can be heard and if you check down between the rocks, < a gallon per minute flow can be seen.

Please note that this spring location is .3 mile SSE from the location on the Topo maps.

From here we made a direct assault to the Humphreys peak, 1/3 mile straight up hill. (OK, it was only 1,100 feet up, but it was loose boulders, and with the thin air, took some effort.

At 12,633', atop of Arizona, the view was Awesome as always. Thunder crackled, there was lightning in the area and the gnats were ridiculous, so we retreated down the actual trail. We did get rained on for a bit which actually felt real good.

Here's a short video, including the spring flow at Philomena Spring = :next: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGsFkEN ... YRrjYvcHUA
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Clear flowing water could be seen and heard between the boulders. You could get to it to filter or collect
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Jun 29 2013
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Philomena Spring - Humphreys Loop, AZ 
Philomena Spring - Humphreys Loop, AZ
 
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joebartels
Hiking10.70 Miles 3,850 AEG
Hiking10.70 Miles   8 Hrs   10 Mns   1.74 mph
3,850 ft AEG   2 Hrs    Break12 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
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A brilliant orange sunrise on the drive up ( Silver Fire in New Mexico 260 miles away ) put Bruce in a good mood singing kumbaya.

Our plan was to hike to Arizona's highest spring Philomena on what we dubbed the "outer basin" of Humphreys. Next summit the beast then return on the summit "trail". The high in Flag was 96 degrees so it was no surprise the massive TH parking lot overflowed to the Kachina lot.

Onto the Aspen Loop we dropped 300 feet. Despite sub-seventy degree temps humidity was knocking. The only noticeable sweating was on our initial ascent.

The route to Philomena is arbitrary. Heading up we found a network of criss crossing trails and cairns galore. Excitement began to build when we found a pipe then started following it up. The hike went from fair to memorable stumbling upon a hot tub! Obviously it's not a hot tub for those in three dimensional zoomable mindsets.

Continued following the pipe to it's end just into the rock slide pitch. Then on up to the summit. The primo segment from the hot tub up through the slide is on video. I enjoyed this hike much more than anticipated.

Carried 4 quarts agua of which I consumed 1.75. We took maybe a dozen short breather breaks on the ascent in addition to standard snack and lunch breaks. Footing to the catch a hundred feet away from the spring is doable by most. Continuing to the summit is moderate-difficult to very-dangerous depending on your ability, experience and nerves.
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Parry's Primrose, Columbine, plenty o' aster

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Looked crystal clear. You'll have to hunt for it with your ears.

...however, more of a novelty due to the location.
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