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Aug 18 2019
Vashti
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 Joined Mar 11 2002
 Gilbert, AZ
Zion Subway Top to BottomSouthwest, UT
Southwest, UT
Canyoneering avatar Aug 18 2019
Vashti
Canyoneering10.26 Miles 3,707 AEG
Canyoneering10.26 Miles   9 Hrs   42 Mns   1.54 mph
3,707 ft AEG   3 Hrs   1 Min Break
 
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Amazing adventure! Went with a great group including a couple of veteran subway folks. It made for a very smooth first run through the subway! We did a hand line down the first obstacle, a webbing down the waterfall, and for the last obstacle some of us rapelled and others jumped and then did a batman hand line. It was a very enjoyable experience. Most of our group came in through Das boot, but two of us are not experienced canyoneers, and so took the traditional subway route in. Very beautiful place! The two of us who did not do Das boot did not have wetsuits. It was cold in the pools which was expected. It wasn't too bad given the air temperature being so high.

Once out of the subway, the canyon is beautiful, but the rock hopping can be slow going. And the ascent out of the canyon was a bit tedious after a long day. There was also fear of missing the turn off to get out of the canyon and ending up with having to turn around and find it or go ten miles to the town of virgin to exit the canyon.

All in all, a magnificent event. What a marvelous adventure! 😀😀😀
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Jul 31 2016
autumnstars
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 Joined Jan 04 2011
 Las Vegas, NV
Zion Subway Top to BottomSouthwest, UT
Southwest, UT
Canyoneering avatar Jul 31 2016
autumnstars
Canyoneering8.60 Miles 2,300 AEG
Canyoneering8.60 Miles
2,300 ft AEG
Basic Canyoneering - Scrambling; easy climbing/downclimbing; frequent hand use; rope recommended; easy exit
B - Up to light current; wading/swimming; possible wet/dry suit
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My second trip down Subway via the top-down route. :GB:

This is a fun canyon with fairly long hikes on both the approach and exit. The technical part of the canyon isn't all that difficult or long, so suitable for most any experienced hiker. Extremely scenic as a bonus for any photographers in the group.

Warm air temperatures meant we didn't need wetsuits. Some of the swims are quite cold because sun never hits some of the pools and springs add their own cold water along the way, but this is a fairly open canyon in places, meaning there are always nearby patches of sun to warm up in as needed.

The hike out after the subway portion was its usual lengthy self. Especially long with our group of less "broken-in" hikers.

As I felt last time, this canyon is definitely worth doing again, but I probably won't be back soon. Das Boot sounds like it adds to the experience, so maybe try for the combo?
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Jun 20 2015
autumnstars
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 Joined Jan 04 2011
 Las Vegas, NV
Zion Subway Top to BottomSouthwest, UT
Southwest, UT
Canyoneering avatar Jun 20 2015
autumnstars
Canyoneering8.60 Miles 2,300 AEG
Canyoneering8.60 Miles
2,300 ft AEG
Intermediate Canyoneering - Difficult or dangerous; Tech Climb; rope reqd; descent anchor; exit technical;
B - Up to light current; wading/swimming; possible wet/dry suit
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Having hiked to the Subway via the bottom-up route many times over the years, it was very exciting to finally do the entire route through. :GB:

This was a fun canyon with a fairly long, but enjoyable, slickrock approach, and a longish hike out along the Left Fork of North Creek. The technical part of the canyon wasn't all that difficult or long, but the scenic aspects more than made up for that :D - this canyon is a photographer's dream come true.

Unseasonably warm temperatures (high of 102F) meant we didn't need to wear wetsuits. The first swim was cold because sun never hits the pool, but there were always patches of sun to warm up in as needed. One interesting thing was that while swimming some sections, you could actually feel where different underwater springs emerged and added their colder or warmer water to the main flow.

There was a small moment of disappointment that the volcanic choke stone I had heard you get the swim under was not the case at this time. So many logs are wedged under the stone there was no way under. Instead, you had to use the logs to climb up onto the rock and carefully come down the other side into a pool (handline helpful). Beware the tilted log on the downstream side - very, very slick!

The hike out after the subway portion was its usual self - long if you're running low on time or energy. We stopped and filtered fresh water right before the steep last push out, and that really lifted everyone's spirits for the accent.

With limited room in our shuttle vehicle, I waited in the lot with the packs as the sun set. A ranger came up and talked with me for a bit, and even checked our permit. She mentioned that in 2 weeks she was doing Subway through for her first time, so wanted details of all the conditions we found.

Final assessment. While this canyon is definitely worth doing again, I probably won't be back soon. Das Boot sounds like it adds to the experience, so maybe try for the combo next time?
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Penstemon flowering on the approach. Columbine and monkeyflower in the canyon.
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Jul 25 2010
Vaporman
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 Joined Mar 28 2005
 SLC, Utah
Das BootSouthwest, UT
Southwest, UT
Canyoneering avatar Jul 25 2010
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Canyoneering9.00 Miles 800 AEG
Canyoneering9.00 Miles   8 Hrs      1.13 mph
800 ft AEG
Intermediate Canyoneering - Difficult or dangerous; Tech Climb; rope reqd; descent anchor; exit technical;
B - Up to light current; wading/swimming; possible wet/dry suit
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This is the slightly long, wetter, and more challenging upper start to the traditional Subway hike in Zion. :GB: The hike in starts off just like the Subway hike but it takes a little bit more route finding skills and debating to find the right way for Das Boot, but we made it in the correct drop-in point without much issue. The canyon quickly narrows up and get plenty wet, dark, tight, and cold. : rambo : We were plenty warned about a dead elf at the first rappel and all too soon we could smell that disgusting beast rotting away up ahead. :yuck: But we did our best to ignore the nasty smell and do that first short rappel. :roll: Loads more pools & narrows to go thru with an occasional short rappel & awkward down climb & a couple swimmers and all too soon were at that final 30ft rappel. :roll: Some places rate this canyon as a 4B but we didn't think this canyon deserved that higher rating or we've just slowly getting better at this... ;)

We lucked out with some walk-in permits for Subway the day before, so we proceeded to finish via this classic barely technical canyon. Some easy creek hiking and we hit that boulder section where I down climb that class 3/4 face down a huge boulder while the guys did a short rappel on the right side of it. This was followed not too shortly by those short swimmers, some more easy creek walking, and another larger swimmer in a tight section of the canyon that starts with a handline/easy rappel. Soon afterwards the canyon narrows up and the walls start soaring into the sky where we down climbed a branch at keyhole holes, soaked into the upper Subway past that photogenic Subway Log, traversed above that 20ft falls and rappeled into the main Subway where we enjoyed a water slide, showered under the falls and stripped down the gear. :D That Subway is the best part of the whole canyon, but afterwards if followed by some sweet red falls/cascades but that soon replaced with 4 miles of kinna boring hiking alongside the creek to that steep & quick exit trail back to the lower TH. :sweat:
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Jul 25 2010
nonot
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 Phoenix, AZ
Das BootSouthwest, UT
Southwest, UT
Canyoneering avatar Jul 25 2010
nonot
Canyoneering10.00 Miles 1,000 AEG
Canyoneering10.00 Miles   8 Hrs      1.25 mph
1,000 ft AEG
Intermediate Canyoneering - Difficult or dangerous; Tech Climb; rope reqd; descent anchor; exit technical;
B - Up to light current; wading/swimming; possible wet/dry suit
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Combined with Subway from the top. The elk is not too smelly yet and Das Boot was nice and cold for being such a hot summer day. The Subway was fantastic! Such an amazing display of geology and water. Everyone should see this at least once in their lifetimes.
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Sep 06 2009
Vaporman
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 Joined Mar 28 2005
 SLC, Utah
Zion Subway Top to BottomSouthwest, UT
Southwest, UT
Canyoneering avatar Sep 06 2009
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Canyoneering8.60 Miles 800 AEG
Canyoneering8.60 Miles
800 ft AEG
Basic Canyoneering - Scrambling; easy climbing/downclimbing; frequent hand use; rope recommended; easy exit
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I lucked out and got a walk-in permit this weekend and did this gem of a canyon from the top this time by hitching a ride to the Wildcat TH. :D
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Sep 16 2007
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 Joined Mar 28 2005
 SLC, Utah
Zion Subway Top to BottomSouthwest, UT
Southwest, UT
Hiking avatar Sep 16 2007
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Hiking7.00 Miles
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I did this as just an out and back up to the top of the narrows/first rappel.
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