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Sep 14 2019
chumley
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46 male
 Joined Sep 18 2002
 Tempe, AZ
Horton Promontory Rim Loop, AZ 
Horton Promontory Rim Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Sep 14 2019
chumley
Hiking9.46 Miles 2,011 AEG
Hiking9.46 Miles   3 Hrs   58 Mns   2.64 mph
2,011 ft AEG      23 Mns Break
1st trip
Checked off a couple of all-time uniques.

292 is steep. A few spots of deadfall and one section in particular where there are many user/wildlife-created switchbacks that deviate from the tread.

3 small groups at the spring.

Highline was nice. I forgot how thick and lush some of the drainages down here are. It was farther to get across to 278 than I thought it would be.

278 was nicer than I had been told. Steep for sure, but it's over quickly. Some nice views along the way too.

76 has been closed to vehicles for a year or more. The FS has redone all the roads on the butte in preparation for 4FRI. Hopefully they can get through it next spring and get the road open again. Then again, it was pleasant walking out there knowing there was nobody else around.

The rain came before I got back to Crook. It didn't last too long, but I had to get all geared up. Actually turned out to be nice since it knocked down all the dust on the 300 which made much nicer conditions to complete the loop.
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May 19 2018
parkeraph
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22 male
 Joined Dec 28 2017
 Tempe, Az
Horton Super Loop PlusPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar May 19 2018
parkeraph
Hiking14.00 Miles 2,700 AEG
Hiking14.00 Miles   7 Hrs      2.33 mph
2,700 ft AEG   1 Hour    Break35 LBS Pack
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1st trip
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I started this trail counter clockwise rather late at 8:30. My main reason for attempting this in one day with all my overnight gear was to train myself for Humphrey's peak. I found the first three miles to be relatively easy. When my friend and I approached the rim, we easily lost the trail. I would heavily recommend downloading the .gpx file and installing it on your GPS. After a grueling half mile of climbing the rim, you are greeted by a flat sandy forest road. You will follow various roads to the Horton springs trail head which will take you home. Be careful on the road, people like to drive their razors fast as hell on the rim road. :?
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Apr 15 2018
DixieFlyer
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 Joined Jan 07 2017
 Fountain Hills,
Horton Super Loop PlusPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 15 2018
DixieFlyer
Hiking16.00 Miles 3,000 AEG
Hiking16.00 Miles   8 Hrs   36 Mns   2.73 mph
3,000 ft AEG   2 Hrs   44 Mns Break
 
Being a glutton for punishment, I decided to do this hike once again. This time, there were 6 of us with a meetup group that were on the hike.

We did the loop clockwise, so as to avoid going up the Promontory Trail. On this trip, going up the Horton Springs Trail seemed more difficult than last time, and going down the Promontory Trail seemed easier than last time.

Once we got on FR 76, I took a bit of a circuitous route getting to Promontory Butte -- a more direct route would probably have shaved a half mile or so off of the distance.

The views at Promontory Butte were very nice, as always. Actually, it was a very clear day, so the views were even better than normal.

When we started the hike the temperature was in the low 30's, and it was around 70 when we got back.

One interesting thing about this hike was when we were hiking on Rim Road 300/General Crook Trail 140. We were walking east on the Rim Road and an off road vehicle came up behind us. When the vehicle got beside us, the driver told us that as he was coming up to us, a mountain lion went across the road just behind us. Since we were looking ahead, we never saw the mountain lion. I am just glad that the mountain lion was not looking for a meal...lol.
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Apr 04 2018
DixieFlyer
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 Fountain Hills,
Horton Super Loop PlusPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 04 2018
DixieFlyer
Hiking16.30 Miles 3,000 AEG
Hiking16.30 Miles   8 Hrs   39 Mns   2.59 mph
3,000 ft AEG   2 Hrs   21 Mns Break
 
I have wanted to do this hike, and I decided to do the loop clockwise so as to go down, instead of up, Promontory Trail #278 -- I think that was the right call.

Starting at the Horton Creek TH, Tracie, my intrepid hiking partner, and I travelled on Horton Creek Trail #285 to get to Horton Spring, and then took the Horton Springs Trail #292 to get up to Rim Road 300/General Crook Trail #140. Then we went east on the General Crook Trail for a little over 2 miles, and then took an easy jaunt through the forest to get to Forest Road 276. We then took that to the Promentory TH, and then went to the SE to get over to Promentory Butte. At the Butte we stopped at the point where we saw a survey marker and the logbook that had been placed there by Joe Bartels back in 2003. From there we went SE to where the Butte juts out a bit, and saw 2 other survey markers. Then we backtracked back to the Promentory TH, and descended down to the Highline Trail on the very steep Promentory Trail #278. Then we turned left on the Highline Trail and after about 3/4 mile we took the Derrick Trail back to the Horton Springs TH.

As advertised, all but 2 miles of the hike are on easy to moderate trails. The exceptions are the Horton Springs Trail #292 and the Promontory Trail #278. I had never been on the Horton Springs Trail, and it was easier than I thought that it would be -- the footing was mostly pretty good and the trail was generally easy to follow. But it was fairly steep, gaining around 1,200 feet over 1.2 miles. I had been up and down the Promontory Trail before, and it does not get any easier. This is a primitive trail that is poorly maintained, is hard to follow, is very steep (you go down 1,150 feet in 0.8 miles), has poor footing on much of the trail, and there is a lot of deadfall to negotiate. Other than that, it is a delightful trail to hike!

Virtually all of the elevation gain on this hike is in the first 5 miles. In looking at a map, I could have shortened the distance by a mile or more by exiting the General Crook Trail sooner, and by not taking Forest Road 76 all the way to the Promontory TH and then backtracking back to Promontory Butte.

We saw a couple of people on the Horton Creek Trail who were camping; other than that, we did not see anyone else all day.
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Jul 03 2017
markthurman53
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66 male
 Joined Jun 27 2015
 Tucson, Arizona
Babe Haught Horton Creek Loop, AZ 
Babe Haught Horton Creek Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jul 03 2017
markthurman53
Hiking14.60 Miles 2,834 AEG
Hiking14.60 Miles   9 Hrs   21 Mns   2.29 mph
2,834 ft AEG   2 Hrs   59 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
Started this hike at 6 in the morning hoping to beat the heat. The Babe Haught Trail is easy to follow but is steep, luckily it isn't long (1.75 miles to top of rim). The trail from the rim to Knoll lake is a leisurely stroll compared to the climb up. Knoll lake is a good place to take a break it was 77 degrees at 9:30 in the morning. The walk along the rim road to Horton Creek Trail had good views from the rim to the Southwest of the Mazatzal and four Peaks (a little bit hazy though). The Horton creek trail was more of a controlled fall than a trail. I normally prefer to go up steep climbs but in this case, with the heat, I was glad to be going down. Since I was alone I did this really slow so as not to have any mishaps (only had one minor one at which time I reminded myself to be really cautious). My GPS route goes off trail in one section because I didn't stay on the ridge and wasn't checking my GPS often enough (there are a lot of side trails that either game or hikers have taken that tempt you off trail). You can tell when you are getting close to Horton Spring because you can hear the water. From Horton Spring to Tonto Creek along the Highline trail was a piece of cake. There were Dew Berries along the trail in Dick Williams Creek but they were a little dry (like the Creek), still tasted pretty good though. There weren't too many people on the trail for a 4th of July weekend. I was planning the Promontory Trail to the See Trail Loop tomorrow, but with the heat I decided to not do any more Highline to rim hikes.
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Apr 16 2017
adv_trev
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41 male
 Joined Oct 01 2005
 Queen Creek, AZ
Horton Super Loop PlusPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 16 2017
adv_trev
Hiking15.00 Miles 3,210 AEG
Hiking15.00 Miles   5 Hrs   20 Mns   2.92 mph
3,210 ft AEG      12 Mns Break11 LBS Pack
 
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I rate this hike as a meh! Horton was great, but beyond that the trail is hard to find and stupid steep. Don't wear your trail running shoes! This is a hunting type of hike. You need boots! On top of that, the trail finding is hard. There are few markers and there are a lot of game trails to throw you off. I did see 5 bull elk with fresh velvet! The trais need maintenance and I don't think I will be back. It was nice seeing fr 300 empty because it's still closed, but I still found myself walking in the right.
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Aug 06 2016
rayhuston
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 Joined Mar 09 2012
 Gilbert, AZ
Horton Super Loop PlusPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Aug 06 2016
rayhuston
Hiking17.92 Miles 2,974 AEG
Hiking17.92 Miles   7 Hrs   58 Mns   2.53 mph
2,974 ft AEG      53 Mns Break
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1st trip
The Horton Super Loop is a cool hike, but the "Plus" in this hike was all about walking the rim along Promontory Butte. That was a joy. The pictures do not adequately capture the stunning views along the rim.

This hike was done in a CCW direction so I could finish on the Horton Creek trail :y: . The Derrick Trail was muddy in spots. The steep Promontory and Horton Springs trails were in reasonable shape considering all of the rain up here. The Horton Creek trail was perfect as always. While I saw quite a few campers on Promontory Butte, I didn't see another hiker until I reached Horton Springs.

My bones were creaking at the end, but it was nice to get out on an all day hike. The weather was perfect!
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hikerdw
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60 male
 Joined Aug 16 2009
 Mesa,AZ
Horton Super Loop PlusPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 16 2016
hikerdw
Hiking15.00 Miles 2,828 AEG
Hiking15.00 Miles   6 Hrs   35 Mns   2.77 mph
2,828 ft AEG   1 Hour   10 Mns Break
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Losing my GPS during this outing makes this a hike I'd rather forget but I thought I would post a triplog anyhow. Did the loop counter clockwise so hit Promontory Trail going up. We lost the trail about 3/4 up which made the uphill even tougher. Lots of traffic on the Rim Road so we eat a lot of dust. The extra miles were my trip back to the spring area searching for the AWOL GPS. Warm finish.
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Aug 08 2015
The_N
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 Joined Mar 18 2015
 Payson, AZ
Derrick-Prom-See-High-Horton, AZ 
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The_N
Hiking25.23 Miles 4,717 AEG
Hiking25.23 Miles   8 Hrs   20 Mns   3.21 mph
4,717 ft AEG      28 Mns Break14 LBS Pack
 
Initially I wanted to do the Derrick-Horton loop but stumbled upon this route and decided to go for it. Early morning temps were nice and cool, although humid. Awesome hike overall.

Derrick Trail #33: Well maintained and easy to follow. Looked like any and all brush withing 10ft of either side of the trail was recently cut back. Not steep but a nice little warm-up before reaching Promontory. Cached a frozen Gatorade at the junction.

Promontory Trail #278: Steep but enjoyable. Enjoyed the morning cloud cover on my way up. Some deadfall to navigate but nothing too serious. Good views of Rim Country start to open up but I was more intrigued by the lush cliffs on that side of the butte. Lost the trail briefly and had to backtrack but picked up a little extra AEG in the process. Once atop Promontory Butte I took in the views for a moment and busted out a sandwich for my walk along the FRs heading toward Rim Road. I encountered several elk within the first mile, they were drinking from all the puddles in the road. Probably the most enjoyable road walk I've ever experienced.

See Canyon Trail #184: Typical See Canyon, lush and green with plenty of moss and fungi. The wild strawberries have burned out but there's been a burst in Wildflowers since last week and other berries are present. The humidity seemed to be trapped in the canyon and the bugs were pretty bad. Stopped at the creek to filter some water before departing the canyon and heading west on Highline.

Highline Trail #31: The segment of Highline between See Canyon and the Derrick junction is beautiful. Well maintained almost Sedona-like trail. Entirely different from See Canyon as the rocks and dirt turn red and the landscape becomes dominated by Juniper and Manzanitas. Amazing views of Rim Country and beyond to the left and a beautiful but rugged Promontory Butte looming over me to the right. The segment of Highline from the Derrick junction to Horton Spring was my least favorite. Exposure to afternoon sun and a surprising amount of uphill. Glad I started so early. All I could think about was the cold spring water awaiting me. I hadn't even stopped for a break yet either because I wanted to reward myself with an extended break at Horton Spring. Within about the last half mile, clouds crept in and thunder started booming through the canyon. The moment I reached the spring it started raining. I filled up a couple liters before leaving.

Horton Creek Trail #285: Beautiful creekside hike, as usual. It rained on me for the first couple of miles, a welcomed relief. Lots of campers and hikers. I could spend all day at Horton Creek. Reached the road and walked back to the Derrick TH which ended up putting me over 25 miles on the day.

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Flowing good, bring a filter.

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Flowing good. Plenty of swimming holes.

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Cold and tasty.
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Jun 27 2015
The_Eagle
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64 male
 Joined Jan 20 2009
 Far NE Phoenix,
Derrick-Prom-See-High-Horton, AZ 
Derrick-Prom-See-High-Horton, AZ
 
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The_Eagle
Hiking23.38 Miles 4,613 AEG
Hiking23.38 Miles   9 Hrs   42 Mns   2.64 mph
4,613 ft AEG      50 Mns Break14 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
This was an act in how to throw a hike together in an afternoon. My plans changed, so I texted JJ. JJ signs up LP and Dave is looking for something to do by 8:30pm.

AJ-JJ (aka - The King of Tacos), the Turtle Wrangler, Scooter McGruder and myself, head north to get out of some of the heat and hit up some favorite spots. Dave is a Rim Virgin, so we were gentle.

We parked at the Horton Creek parking area and headed to the new Derrick #33 TH. I'd forgotten what a steady climb the Derrick was, but it's in great shape. We cached at the Derrick / Highline intersection and continued on to the Prom.

Promontory Trail #278 is still one of the steeper trails you'll climb to get to the Rim. There's still some downfall, but not that big of a deal. We had some discussion as to if this trail or the East Rim BSA Trail was harder and agreed that East Rim BSA is steeper. Comparing the two routes from the exhaustive HAZ database, while both trails are about .69 mile long, the East Rim is about 105' higher in AEG. We agreed the Prom is slipperier and East Rim has the Rock climbing.

OK.. now on top, the 3.5 mile walk across the Butte to get to the See Canyon Upper TH.

See Canyon #184 is a favorite of mine. Thick and Lush, it's definitely not JimH approved. We sample Strawberries and a few raspberries on the way down, whille JJ took in the Columbines.

We hadn't seen a single person on the trail, until we reached the See Spring Trail #185. There we ran into Blanco and Cupcake (Lee was there too) They got talked into joining us for the rest of our adventure.

We got on the Highline #31 at it's rerouted TH at the turnaround circle. Also many areas between See Canyon and the Derrick have been rerouted. The trail is in great shape. I like this section.

We picked up out cache and made our way to Horton Spring. I'd forgotten (as well as JJ) of the AEG between these two points.

After stepping over a large log jam on the trail that had recently been cleaned up, I was at the Horton Spring area.

The cool water felt good on my face. I drank a bunch, and we were off.

Another surprise was the rerouting of the Horton Creek Trail #285. It's been taken off that rocky road and put closer to the Creek itself in many places. We could hear the rumbling up on the Rim and we started to get sprinkled on. The sprinkle was a lot heavier by the time we all piled (5 wet guys and 2 wet dogs) into JJ's Ferrari SUV.

Del Taco's around, topped off with Cherry Dipped Cones at DQ..... Perfect Day!

Thanks all, a great day gentlemen!
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dry East Fork Horton Creek Dry Dry
Dry where is crosses the Highline

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refilled right from the source.

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johnlp
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62 male
 Joined Mar 16 2008
 chandler,az
Derrick-Prom-See-High-Horton, AZ 
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johnlp
Hiking23.38 Miles 4,613 AEG
Hiking23.38 Miles   9 Hrs   42 Mns   2.64 mph
4,613 ft AEG      50 Mns Break
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1st trip
I hadn't been through See Canyon before, so when JJ suggested this hike and said the Eagle would be attending, I was in. Dave1 decided to join us last second as well.

Temps were comfortable through most of the hike though it was a bit humid. Had a good sweat going climbing the Promontory trail up to the rim. See Canyon was nice and green. Lots of columbines, ferns, and strawberries! A little early for raspberries though.

Once I reached the See Spring trail intersection, I saw a hiker coming towards me with two white dogs. I introduced myself to Lee (friendofThundergod) and met the pups Blanco and Cupcake. After a short deliberation Lee decided to join us for the remainder of the hike. Blanco and Cup are experienced around people and other dogs. They take everything in stride. Very well behaved. Nice job with them Lee.

The Highline from See to Derrick is in great shape. The last few miles before getting to Horton Spring were warm and mostly uphill. I think we all just wanted to get there where we knew it would be cool and relaxing. I was about out of water and the dogs needed a cool down.

Horton was awesome as usual. Only a few people there when we arrived and they soon departed leaving us the whole area to ourselves. I drank 1.5 liters out of the spring to rehydrate. Everyone enjoyed the spring and creek and a break.

Soon the clouds started rolling in providing welcome shade. Then thunder and light rain making the final leg back the the JJ mobile quite comfortable. The rain picked up the last mile or so. We got back to the parking lot just as we were starting to get wet. Perfect timing.

We loaded everybody up, drove Lee and the dogs back to their vehicle in See Canyon, then we all met in Payson for Del Taco and Dairy Queen. Excellent day!

Thanks to John for driving and being his normal generous self. Nice to finally meet Lee, Cup, and Blanco. Always good to hike with Bruce and Dave as well. Good times :)
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Jun 27 2015
JuanJaimeiii
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52 male
 Joined Jan 30 2011
 Chandler, AZ
Derrick-Prom-See-High-Horton, AZ 
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JuanJaimeiii
Hiking23.38 Miles 4,613 AEG
Hiking23.38 Miles   9 Hrs   42 Mns   2.64 mph
4,613 ft AEG      50 Mns Break
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1st trip
I wish all unplanned impromptu hikes ended up as fun and enjoyable as this one. First I asked JohnLP if he was up for a 20 miler, his response: "maybe". Then I get a text from Bruce wondering if I had plans for Saturday. This was followed by a PM from Dave1 wondering if there was an extra seat available for the ride up. Then we run into Lee and he and the dogs join us for the second half of our adventure.

Bruce's trip log does an excellent job of describing our journey. The only thing I have to add is that I had a blast!

Good times out in Rim Country with a great group!
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 Joined Jan 25 2009
 Phoenix, AZ
Derrick-Prom-See-High-Horton, AZ 
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Hiking23.38 Miles 4,613 AEG
Hiking23.38 Miles   9 Hrs   42 Mns   2.64 mph
4,613 ft AEG      50 Mns Break
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Fun hike on trails I haven't been on before. See Canyon was pretty sweet. And the strawberries were a nice bonus! Promontory Trail is probably about the steepest official trail I've been on. Only negative of the day was a giant turd in the middle of the trail right before we got to Horton Creek. I'm amazed at the elasticity and looseness of the human sphinc... err, interpretation of Leave No Trace.
A storm rolled in near the end of the hike but we only got sprinkled on a bit and made it back to the Jeep just before the heavy stuff started. Also near the end we came up behind a couple with an off-leash and fairly aggressive dog that ran towards us barking. I thought we were going to have an issue between it and Blanco and Cup. I was shocked at how calm and relaxed they were as they just strutted right past the rowdy mutt. Those are two seriously well behaved dogs!

Thanks for driving and for the tacos, JJ! And thanks for the cherry-dipped DQ, Lee!
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Jun 02 2012
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 Joined Nov 20 1996
 Phoenix, AZ
Derrick See Horton Butterfly Loop, AZ 
Derrick See Horton Butterfly Loop, AZ
 
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joebartels
Hiking20.90 Miles 4,870 AEG
Hiking20.90 Miles   11 Hrs   44 Mns   2.29 mph
4,870 ft AEG   2 Hrs   37 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
Wow! - Bruce created a winning butterfly loop for those in search of hitting up all the nearby attractions.

We started off on the Derrick Trail #33 and a first for myself. It's better than what I envisioned. On the same token I can't really give it more than a 2 out of 5 with Horton and See Canyon in the neighborhood. Jagged over on the Highline Trail #31 to See Canyon Trail #184. It's been 12 years since I've enjoyed ol' See Canyon. Christopher Creek was flowing considerably more than my previous two journeys back in 2000.

Bruce took the side jaunt up to See Spring while I attempted to rest. Turns out See Spring was just going wild compared to what I recalled, wowzer. The hike up See Canyon was a fun one yet a mental struggle for my sleep deprived body. Onward to Promontory Butte 7,914. This was quite impressive with it's stunning rim views.

A late lunch was enjoyed just past the Promontory Trail #278 upper trailhead. A powerful current rising off the rim took away from much needed relaxation. The views on the other hand were definitely in my top 12 lunch spots ever.

Next we headed down #278. Holly smokes that is one steep trail. I was shocked to see it only cranked up 30% grade on TOPO! That's steeper than Squaw or Camelback but nothing near a Reverse Flatiron or Catalina Hwy down to Bear Canyon which are almost twice as steep. Looking back this is true too. #278 heads down a 56% grade, yet the trail diagonals.

Back on the Highline Trail #31 we rejoiced in glee. Transversing over to Horton chewed up several mini breaks but we whined it out like grown men.

Horton was just awesome as always. This was Bruce's first visit and he probably took one of the toughest approaches save starting in Pine! Heading back down to the trailhead we had the shade advantage of the ridge. We walked through a couple areas that smelled so incredibly beautiful I didn't want to leave.

Thanks for a great loop mr bruce! Counter clockwise is the ticket on this bad boy!
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 Far NE Phoenix,
Derrick See Prom High Horton Loop, AZ 
Derrick See Prom High Horton Loop, AZ
 
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The_Eagle
Hiking22.12 Miles 5,140 AEG
Hiking22.12 Miles   11 Hrs   42 Mns   2.24 mph
5,140 ft AEG   1 Hour   50 Mns Break
 
1st trip
This area's been on my list for quite awhile.
I was looking for something to make the 2 hour drive North worthwhile.
This worked!

We made a last minute decision to make this a Counter Clockwise loop. Good call.

This loop is a steady climb, steep at times, all the way to Promontory Butte.

This hike starts out on the Derrick Trail and makes it's way over to the Highline trail. Both of these trails afforded some good views, but the best is yet to come.

We made our way into the See Canyon TH area, crossing Christopher Creek. The vegetation started getting thicker and greener. I was awe struck by the qty of Maples up there. This would make a great fall hike.

I made the 1.25 mile Round trip to check out See Spring. What a little slice of heaven back there. The forest canopy in spots, left the forest floor darker than I'm used to in Arizona. See Spring is more of an area. Water was flowing from the ground in multiple spots forming a quite sizable creek.

Continuing on towards the Rim, you stayed in dense forest most of the way. The climb up was steep and a bit loose in spots, but not that bad.

Once on top, the flat boring 3.5 mile walk on Promontory to the County High point, was a good way to rest my tired "Go Uppers". After stopping at the high point, we bushwhacked over to the Promontory TH for a little Lunch. On the way, in the middle of nowhere, we stumbled on a Mining claim placed under a small Cairn, in a glass jar from Oct 2006.

The lunch spot just west of the Promontory Butte TH, has moved into the top 10. We were perched on the edge of the rim with incredible 180 degree views out, and 1300' down to the trails we started on earlier in the day.

The drop off the rim at Promontory TH was defiantly a steep and loose one. At first glace it appeared that is was surprisingly well traveled, however, most of the previous travelers were Elk. We lost the trail in spots, but were never far from it.

It was a relief to be on the Highline trail on our way to Horton Spring. This trail was mostly in great shape. It appeared there had been an event recently on the trail.

I finally got to see Horton Spring. It's amazing how it just gushes out of the side of the mountain forming a creek/river.

This was a very enjoyable day. Joe even enlightened me on his interpretation of French Customs.


See Spring/Creek, Promontory Butte viewpoint, Horton Spring
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Flowing for quite awhile out of the spring.
Dry by the time it gets close to the Southern TH.

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Lot's - o - water

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The ground was damp

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Lots of clear clean water filling up the creek
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I've done all these trails before, but I've never done them as a loop. I decided to do the loop counterclockwise for three reasons: 1) I knew it would be easier to go up the Promontory Butte trail than go down it. 2) The Derrick trail is more sun exposed than the Horton Creek trail and I wanted the shade for the afternoon sun 3) If it rains on the Highline trail, it's usually in the afternoon and I'd rather have a wet descent on the Horton springs trail than the Promontory trail.
The hike started out sunny and rather warm. The Derrick trail had no surprises. Grasshopper was amazed at the steepness of the Promontory trail. We had no problems following the trail. Whenever we had a decision, we just took the left fork which was usually the steeper trail. :sl: This time I came out right at the trailhead sign. We followed GPSJoes track and took the cutoff and did the cross-country. When we hit FR300, we followed the General Crook trail all the way to the Horton Springs TH. It looked like some work was done on the General Crook trail. We were able to follow it without much difficulty. While on FR300 the sky got dark and it started to rain on us. The temps dropped pretty fast. When we started on the Horton springs trail, it started to hail on us! A couple of hail hurt our heads! They were the size of moth balls. We stopped for lunch about a 1/4 of mile down. About 10 minutes into lunch the wind blew hard and it started to ran again! We fell for one of the sucker trails, but still wound up on the trail in a couple of minutes. By the time we reached the springs, the rain stopped. We made it to the Jeep shortly after. It was a fun hike. I was surprised to see rain this early in the season.
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It felt good heading for the hills again with our low land temps this Saturday starting to feel like summer again. This is a super Mogollon Rim area loop that GPSjoe has put together. A combination of interesting, scenic, & challenging trails with some not so active forest roads to enjoy as well (with exception of the vehicle active Rim Rd FR300 which you can cut-off a good .5mls of road by hiking the parallel General Crook TR).

Our TH start from the popular lower Horton Springs Tr285/Derrick Tr#33 parking lot started off with a nice sunny morning, blue sky, and early puffy white clouds which made for some nice photo shots. The hike description for this "super loop+" is published as a clockwise loop, but we decided to enjoy it as a counter-clockwise loop, first starting on the Derrick Tr#33 and ending back at the lower TH start for Horton Springs Tr#285. This was my first time on all these trails except for #285 to Horton Springs & back. After reading the hike description & warnings regarding the tough downhill(steep, loose-rocky, with some exposure areas) on the Promontory Butte Tr#278(-1150' in .75ml), we decided it best for us to do this one going uphill. This was a good choice for me, but later proved a challenge for me coming down the also very steep, rocky & this day wet Upper Horton Springs Tr#292. In hindsight, either way to start and finish this loop is a fun challenge both mentally & physically. The upper TH for the Promontory Butte Tr#278 is at 7850' and for the Upper Horton Springs Tr#292 at 7945' (the highpoint for the day).

If you are up for the miles, elevation gain/loss, and feel confident after reading the HAZ hike description, then you will enjoy this one!
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I did this same loop as well since it looked like such a good route from Joe's description and it turned out to be a great loop. This seems to be the popular place these days so I figured I'd check it out while my gashed shin is still healing up since I can only do dry trails while its still not quite closed up yet... And I even ran into AZpride on the way up and chatted with him a few minutes. :D I always seem to underestimate the beauty and pleasantness of the Payson area and then I do a hike there and kick myself for passing it by all the time... I'd yet to hike the Horton Canyon area since my Scouting days and I was able to catch it on a not too popular day since most people must have been driving home or were already pooped out from the long weekend.

So I hiked up the Horton Creek trail, occasionally checking out the creek not wanting to play along it too much lest I get my open wound all wet, and then hiked up that hard to follow Horton Spring trail figuring it'd take me right by the springs. Now that trail was a little tough to follow, but I was all intent on staying on course and before I know it I'm almost too the top of the rim but no spring... :sweat: Now it would have been nice to see the springs, but I'm more about the beautiful vistas and sandstone Rim & canyons coming off of it so I wasn't going to turn back and give up these great views to look at that creek some more. :lol: Once on top, I walked that rim road, sharing it with all the campers & fishers & Quaders heading home, to that shortcut point and headed south along Promontory Butte looking for FR76B. I didn't find it so I ended up accidently making it to some 'official' Promontory Point with the USGS markers. Thankfully I GPSed that upper TH of the Promontory trail and hiked 3/4 mile west to that steep trail down. That rim along the butte seems kinna remote, so its funny to see so many fire rings along it from people who backpacked in from FR76 most likely. Now that trail down is loose, steep, tough to follow in a couple sections, and near impossible to find from the Highline trail but its still very doable. And from the Highline trail, I of course headed SE to the Derrick junction and back to the Horton TH to complete this beautiful loop. :D
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