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Oct 04 2014
topohiker
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 Joined Oct 29 2005
 Scottsdale, AZ
Sitgreaves Ruins and Petroglyphs, AZ 
Sitgreaves Ruins and Petroglyphs, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 04 2014
topohiker
Hiking28.03 Miles 2,719 AEG
Hiking28.03 Miles   10 Hrs   28 Mns   3.29 mph
2,719 ft AEG   1 Hour   57 Mns Break
 
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Fan and Mike haven't been to the Black Canyon lake area so I took them on a loop out there.
We started at the Black Canyon campground / General Crook TH and went down the Hangman trail.
From there we went to Black Canyon lake/Rocky Bluff trail to the abandoned jeep roads to FR86. From FR86, I showed fan & Mike the ruins and the Petroglyphs.

We returned via FR86 to 4x4 roads to the rim road.

The morning was a bit chilly for Mike & I , but perfect for Fan. The day never got too warm. For once it didn't rain. I think Mike keeps the rain away.

Wildlife seen:
- 3 tarlaunulas
- about 20 deer
- 2 wild horses
- 1 gopher snake
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Sep 13 2014
topohiker
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Horse and Hoyle Canyons via Black Canyon, AZ 
Horse and Hoyle Canyons via Black Canyon, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Sep 13 2014
topohiker
Hiking38.86 Miles 4,178 AEG
Hiking38.86 Miles   13 Hrs   40 Mns   3.15 mph
4,178 ft AEG   1 Hour   20 Mns Break
 
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HAZ tracks rules! :DANCE:
The off-line maps is great. I love having the forest service topo maps on a handheld device. :DANCE:

The goal today was to explore Horse and Holye canyons from where they meet Black Canyon. I started at the General Crook TH by the Black canyon rim campground. I headed down the hangman’s trail to FR86 to the lake/Rocky Bluff trail. By the lake I saw some wild horses, but this time they didn't run away.

The old road going into Horse canyon is gone. I found a cattle/game trail. The game trail went up horse canyon and is very well defined. I followed the game trail to about a mile from where the canyon meets the rim. At this point the trail disappeared and the canyon started to close up. I climbed out of the canyon to the FR that I wanted to follow all along. I came out by where the FR meet SR 260 and followed it back to Black Canyon. I passed a couple of tanks by this point, but the one that really stood out was HAZ's own "JJ Tank". There's JJ south and JJ north. What's this? JJ East? I surprised a small herd of elk just shy of the tank.

I came to a great view of Black Canyon lake. I had not expected this view and it became the day’s lunch spot :y: . I followed the road to the ridge tank and then road disappeared. A foot path started at the tank and became faint (and sometimes disappeared) as it descended into the Black Canyon.

Hoyle canyon is an old road. It follows the canyon as it slowly climbs up. It temporarily disappears when it leaves the canyon. The road goes to an overlook, but it turns into a foot path soon after going by clay tank. The overlook was not that special. I headed back down Black canyon and came out at FR86 near Heber.

I returned via FR 86 to the Jeep.

It was mostly a chilly day. It rained on me twice and the night was cold. There is still a bit more of Hoyle canyon left to explore.
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Aug 02 2014
topohiker
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Sitgreaves Ruins and Petroglyphs, AZ 
Sitgreaves Ruins and Petroglyphs, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Aug 02 2014
topohiker
Hiking35.15 Miles 3,254 AEG
Hiking35.15 Miles   12 Hrs   15 Mns   3.27 mph
3,254 ft AEG   1 Hour   30 Mns Break
 
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This hike combined two areas that I haven’t visited yet.
Black canyon / horse canyon
Ruins / Petroglyphs by Heber


Black Canyon / Horse Canyon
Last time when I was at the Black Canyon lake Dam, my Delorme showed a road going down the canyon. I didn't see the road on the Garmin or on the HAZ maps, but I figured I would check it out.
I started by Black Canyon Rim campground and headed down the Hangman's trail. Then headed over to the lake and the Rocky Bluff trail. When I got to the dam, I saw a path leading down the canyon.
The path went down the creek and had a ton of dead fall on it. About a 1/2 mile down, there was an road gate in the creek. The Delorme told the truth! There was a road here at one time. The road is now a cow path. The canyon is a cool place. It had awesome rock formations and solitude. It felt like I was in the middle of nowhere, but I was only about a half mile from a major forest road. Eventually there was a fence line and a very old road was on the other side. I went past a couple of fenced in meadows. The old road ended at FR86 and it's behind a locked gate. I'll be back to explore some of the other abandoned roads in the area.

Ruins / Petroglyphs
The other week I met a local that told me about some ruins and petroglyphs near Heber. I did a little bit of research found them off of FR86 near the Black Canyon abandoned road. There's a trail that takes you up some switchbacks to the ruins. It look like some idiots have camped in the ruins and blackened the roof with a campfire.

The petroglyphs are down the road from the ruins. If you know where to look, you can see them from the road. There a short trail that takes you the pics. At first I passed them up and climbed on top of the shelf. There was a different trail on top. I came down and saw the pics. These pics are upside down. It's like a narrow/shallow cave with the pics on the roof. The artist must have laid on their back. I wasn't brave enough to crawl up on my back to get close pics. I'll let the JJ and Joe crew do that. I'm sure it would be nothing for them .

After the petroglyphs I went to the forest boundary to where the original ranger station was till 1949.


I then took FR86 to FR487 to FR300 to the Jeep.

There was an off and on light rain for most on the day. Then at 6 the sun came out, but then it started to rain from 7Pm on. As I walked on the rim road, there was a dense fog. It got so bad that I couldn't see 3 feet in front of me. The fog cleared near the Gentry LO tower.

It was cool to cold day on the rim. It never did warm up, but I didn't notice it as long as I keep moving.
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Jul 26 2014
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Sitgreaves Cemetery Loop, AZ 
Sitgreaves Cemetery Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jul 26 2014
topohiker
Hiking34.68 Miles 3,291 AEG
Hiking34.68 Miles   12 Hrs      3.30 mph
3,291 ft AEG   1 Hour   30 Mns Break
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I got a late start because I had to deal a tele-scammer who was spoofing as an IRS agent before I left :x . I saw JJ pull into the Deer Creek TH as headed up the rim .

I parked at the General Crook TH by the Black Canyon Rim GC.
I headed down the Hangman trail. Last time I was on the hangman trail, it was raining and dark, so I missed the cemetery. This time I was going to see it. Well I went past (again! :oops: ) and found out that I did when I saw a family of 4 heading up the other way. They set me straight and I found it after walking around some dead fall first.

I then headed to the Black Canyon lake for a snack break and then went to the Baca cemetery. I met a pair of guys who know the area and its history. We talked for a bit.

I then tinkered around on the maze of roads from the Boca cemetery to the rim road.

Once I got back on the rim road, it started to pour! It rained so hard that my boots were squishy.

I wanted to get to the Buckskin lookout tower again, but I ran out of time and the sky looked dark. I didn't want to go mud skating on the Buckskin road, so I turned around about a 1/2 mile from the LO tower.


It was a hot and cold day. When I started it was very warm with a lot of sun. Once it started to rain, the temps dropped fast and I had a rain jacket and a poncho to stay warm.
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Apr 05 2014
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 Joined Apr 26 2013
 Overgaard, AZ
Hangman Trail #500Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 05 2014
JRtraveler
Hiking3.50 Miles 367 AEG
Hiking3.50 Miles
367 ft AEG
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Parked near campground on F300, hiked down hill and to other end of trail and back, so in/out. Nice day and met no one on trail.
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Oct 26 2013
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 Far NE Phoenix,
General Crook Trail - V80 - V107, AZ 
General Crook Trail - V80 - V107, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 26 2013
The_Eagle
Hiking29.05 Miles 1,525 AEG
Hiking29.05 Miles   10 Hrs   54 Mns   2.98 mph
1,525 ft AEG   1 Hour   10 Mns Break16 LBS Pack
 
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Another day out on the General Crook Trail for the Turtle and the Eagle. After 3 hours of shuttle setup, we were hiking just east of Forrest Lakes at V80 on the General Crook. Long pants, long shirt and gloves were in order for the first 45 minutes or so. Temps were in the low 40's, but the wind made it a bit nippy.

We both figured out quickly that we were hiking during deer season. A few shots in the am, RV's and trailers were scattered throughout the hike. Just about every time we saw a truck on the road they asked if we'd seen any deer.

We took a little longer than expected in the first mile, loosing the trail a few times. This section is either on or close to FR300 for the first 15 miles. The hike mainly follows a ridge in and out of Ponderosa that were spared from the Rodeo-Chediski fire of 2002. The views in numerous areas were endless.

We saw a band of 5 wild horses at one point that was pretty intense. It was pretty easy to tell which was the dominant male. We were snorted at more than a few times before they took off. Other fauna spotted on this hike were a dozen or so quick moving deer, numerous tarantulas, one elk that lost playing chicken with a van, and two elk that were made recently bodyless.

History lessons on the hike included the graves of three that were hung in 1888 (The actual day is unclear) http://hikearizona.com/photo=369622

Also enjoyed the Phoenix Park area. http://hikearizona.com/photo=369635

Another long day on the trail with the last 45 minutes behind the headlamp. Thanks Denny for another fun day out there.
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Oct 26 2013
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 Mesa, AZ
General Crook Trail - V80 - V107, AZ 
General Crook Trail - V80 - V107, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 26 2013
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Hiking29.05 Miles 1,525 AEG
Hiking29.05 Miles   10 Hrs   54 Mns   2.67 mph
1,525 ft AEG
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Bruce was up to his old tricks. He researched and planned another great outing on the General Crook Trail. Way to go my friend. Hiking through the Pines with some views here and there along with some nice temps was great. Searching for the chevrons and the V mile markers is also a hoot. We also checked out some Historic Graves and an old Homestead. If that wasn't enough we got to finish off with 45 minutes of hike-stargazing. :y:
Wildlife:4-5 Wild Horses, 2 herds of Deer, and a few Tarantulas.
Waterholes: half a dozen.
Dinner: Had to do fast food(Del Taco).Thanks Bruce!
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Gentry Fire Lookout Phoenix Park
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Jun 26 2010
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 Mesa, AZ
Hangman Trail #500Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Jun 26 2010
jochal
Hiking1.50 Miles 367 AEG
Hiking1.50 Miles
367 ft AEG
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