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Aug 02 2017
Stoic
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45 male
 Joined Dec 30 2007
 Avondale,Az
Oatman Massacre / Fourr CemeterySouthwest, AZ
Southwest, AZ
4x4 Trip avatar Aug 02 2017
Stoic
4x4 Trip80.00 Miles 1,000 AEG
4x4 Trip80.00 Miles   4 Hrs      20.00 mph
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A friend and I left Buckeye around 8am and returned around 1pm. We went to Sundad Ghost Town, Fourr Sons Gravesite, Oatman Gravesite and to the Painted Rock Petroplyph Site.
Its getting harder and harder to drive to the Oatman Gravesite. The Farmers are fencing off their properties. I had to drive around their property to get to the site. Next time I go, I will hike down from the Oatman Massacre site.
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Jan 02 2017
AZWanderingBear
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65 male
 Joined Jan 23 2008
 Phoenix, AZ
Oatman Massacre / Fourr CemeterySouthwest, AZ
Southwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 02 2017
AZWanderingBear
Hiking5.00 Miles 621 AEG
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1st trip
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Stopped off at Painted Rock, the Fourr Cemetery, the Oatman Massacre site and the Sundad ruins while heading to the western terminus of the El Camino del Diablo. Had been wanting to hit this historic area for a while.
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Mar 30 2015
Stoic
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45 male
 Joined Dec 30 2007
 Avondale,Az
Oatman-Sundad-Aqua Caliente, AZ 
Oatman-Sundad-Aqua Caliente, AZ
 
4x4 Trip avatar Mar 30 2015
Stoic
4x4 Trip87.10 Miles 3,306 AEG
4x4 Trip87.10 Miles   7 Hrs   22 Mns   15.10 mph
3,306 ft AEG   1 Hour   36 Mns Break
 
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p.s. Stoic said he is going to steal my triplog.

Fine Ill write my own.. I hate writing!!!

Our first destination was the Oatman Massacre site. We both have been to the memorial, but neither one of us have been to the actual massacre site. Along the way, Kingsnake pointed out an old car graveyard. 4 or 5 old old cars rusting away in the desert. We then stopped at the Fourr site then headed to the Oatman Memorial. Kingsnake is correct about the road conditions to Oatman. From the Fourr site, the sand is over 6 inches deep in some areas. From the memorial, it was around 1/3 of a mile hike to the massacre site. He hiked around the area then back to the truck.
Our next destination was Sundad Ghost Town. I unique ghost town with its man-made rock formations. We spend about 90 minutes walking back and forth checking out the rock formations, building structures and mines. As I looked down one of the mine shafts, I noticed a set of eyes looking back at me. There was an owl living in the mine. After a few seconds, he hopped down out of site. We then headed to the Aqua Caliente Ghost Town. We spend about an hour climbing around and exploring the sites. After Aqua Caliente we hit a couple small sites including Horn. We spend a couple minutes at each site looking at the structures. We then stopped at Dos Palomas bar. We stayed an hour talking with the bartender. As we headed back to I-8 we stopped at one structure at the old Dateland airfield then headed back home.
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Mar 30 2015
kingsnake
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59 male
 Joined Dec 20 2010
 Sunnyslope, PHX
Oatman Massacre / Fourr CemeterySouthwest, AZ
Southwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 30 2015
kingsnake
Hiking3.97 Miles 523 AEG
Hiking3.97 Miles   2 Hrs   30 Mns   1.59 mph
523 ft AEG
 
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Headed out with Stoic to follow up on some previous trips, throwing in the Sundad ghost town / rock art as a side trip.

First up was the Oatman massacre site. The actual massacre site up on the bluff, not just the memorial down on the very dusty Oatman Flat. Stoic agreed I was not exaggerating about the depth of the dust on the farm access road. Reminder: Cars should park at the Fourr Cemetery, then walk in. The massacre site itself is marked by a stone mound, topped by a cross, next to which is a historical sign. I explained the circumstances of the massacre, and that afterwards the Western Yavapai had supposedly taken the Oatman girls to the Agua Caliente hot springs, pointing out the not-too-far distant Agua Caliente Range of hills. We poked around for a few minutes on top, then headed back to the Stoic's Xterra.

Sundad has many rock designs on the ground, some I had not spotted on satellite view. I had noticed a few whazzit's on sat view, and on close up inspection, they turned out to be grated mine covered by the BLM's Fun Prevention Police, plus some associated workings. Stoic was surprised when he looked down a shaft, and saw eyes staring up at him. :o (It was an owl.) Details to follow in a new hike description.

Then it was down to Agua Caliente. I had explored the ruined cabins along the road a few weeks ago, but today we also checked out some ruins further up the very rocky and rather steep hill. Turns out that there was only one identifiable cabin wall on the hill, but many large cairns (as in 4+ feet tall piles of rocks). In fact, from higher up on the hill, we were able to notice something not obvious to the naked, road-level, eye: Large cairns on each of the Agua Caliente Range's summits.

With 97° predicted for Gila Bend, it was surely that hot further west, and the heat was starting to get to me. Despite drinking plenty of water and lime-cucumber Gatorade (serious!), I was actually feeling a bit woozy. We briefly checked out the various foundations (ghost towns?) along Hyder Rd., before pulling into the lot of the cantina at Dos Palomas. It was closed. As we were headed back to the Xterra, it opened. :y: (The cantina opens at 2:00 p.m.) Though they had a new cinnamon & horchata (serious!) Blue Moon, I opted for a cruddy beer: Tecate. Then another. Then a third. (I was not driving.) Nothing refreshes quite like a bad beer on a hot day. :D (Our total damage for a bottle of tea, three beers and a bag of chips was only $9.75!) Feeling human again, we bid adios to our friendly bartender Carmen. :)

Oatman / Fourr Video: youtu.be/gEImSFTLfCo
Sundad Video: https://youtu.be/GA ... wF4A

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p.s. Stoic said he is going to steal my triplog. :lol:
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