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May 06 2019
RowdyandMe
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 Guides 6
 Routes 358
 Photos 14,426
 Triplogs 1,625

65 male
 Joined Jul 16 2012
 Deer Valley, AZ
Buckshot Trail - MSPNPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar May 06 2019
RowdyandMe
Hiking10.47 Miles 2,009 AEG
Hiking10.47 Miles   4 Hrs   38 Mns   2.64 mph
2,009 ft AEG      40 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
Named place
Named place
Pinnacle Peak
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Rowdy and Widowmaker
Apr 29 2019
RowdyandMe
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 Guides 6
 Routes 358
 Photos 14,426
 Triplogs 1,625

65 male
 Joined Jul 16 2012
 Deer Valley, AZ
Stagecoach Trail - MSPNPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 29 2019
RowdyandMe
Hiking16.93 Miles 3,346 AEG
Hiking16.93 Miles   6 Hrs   25 Mns   2.78 mph
3,346 ft AEG      20 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
Named place
Named place
Brown's Mountain - Scottsdale MSP
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Rowdy and Widowmaker
Feb 11 2018
mazatzal
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 Routes 31
 Photos 2,166
 Triplogs 1,073

62 male
 Joined Jul 28 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
MSPN Loop, AZ 
MSPN Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Feb 11 2018
mazatzal
Hiking9.50 Miles 900 AEG
Hiking9.50 Miles   4 Hrs   20 Mns   2.59 mph
900 ft AEG      40 Mns Break
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Hawknest - Stagecoach - High Desert - Dove Valley - Barb's - 136th Express.

Saw juniper at 2800' and "only" 14 mtn bikers. Nice breeze and cool - great weather.
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Nov 02 2017
mazatzal
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 Routes 31
 Photos 2,166
 Triplogs 1,073

62 male
 Joined Jul 28 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
MSPN loop, AZ 
MSPN loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 02 2017
mazatzal
Hiking14.00 Miles 890 AEG
Hiking14.00 Miles   5 Hrs   40 Mns   2.47 mph
890 ft AEG
 
Decided to check out the new extended Stagecoach trail.

Browns Ranch - Maverick - Cholla Mtn loop - Stagecoach - Malpais - Hawknest - Browns Ranch - Upper Ranch

Saw a juniper at ~2850' on the new section. There are a few in MSPN.
Culture
Culture
Cadastral Survey Marker
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Oct 29 2017
KBKB
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 Guides 3
 Routes 22
 Photos 2,112
 Triplogs 231

57 male
 Joined Apr 22 2012
 Fountain Hills,
Maricopa Trail - North of Dove Valley, AZ 
Maricopa Trail - North of Dove Valley, AZ
 
Mtn Biking avatar Oct 29 2017
KBKB
Mtn Biking17.59 Miles 778 AEG
Mtn Biking17.59 Miles   3 Hrs   1 Min   7.49 mph
778 ft AEG      40 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 no routesno photosets
Just a Sunday afternoon ride with my wife in the Granite & Cholla Mountain areas of the McDowell Sonoran Preserve...

Prior to going out, I looked at the current map and noticed, at the top (north) end of the map, that two "Step-Over Gates" are marked at the boundary with the Tonto National Forest. My goal was to get to the gate just off of Dove Valley Trail and take a look at what's on the other side.

My wife and I rode Bootlegger, Granite Mountain Loop, Branding Iron, and north on The Divide Trail. When we got to High Desert, my wife turned left (west) and rode to the intersection with Broken Spur where she would later meet me.

I continued up The Divide, went left on Hawknest, then right on Dove Valley. I could have turned left on Dove Valley from The Divide Trail, but Hawknest is nicer - it's a singletrack whereas Dove Valley is an old jeep road. Anyway, when I turned onto Dove Valley, I found that there was a pretty well defined path made by mountain bikers; it was better than I expected it to be.

I got to the step-over gate at the Tonto National Forest Boundary and crossed over. I looked at the map posted on a large sign and noticed that the area is riddled with roads and perhaps other paths too. It appears that the area might be popular with the OHV crowd. Once I was done studying the map, I was looking at the various road options in front of me when I noticed a sign for the Maricopa Trail. I followed it for 1.4 miles and turned around just as it was crossing under the power lines for the second time. It's a nice singletrack marked for non-motorized vehicle use. In less than a quarter mile, it went through another step-over gate, though this one has a hinged bar which must be unlatched before you can cross. It then crossed the power line road twice; I think there was a least one other road that it crossed, but I don't know what that (or those) roads are (were). I noticed some spur trails leading to the west; I got a good look at one of them; it was a trail that followed a fence line. As noted earlier, I turned around just as it was crossing under the power lines for the second time. Looking at a map of my track, I see Joy Ranch Rd was due west of where I turned around. This section of the Maricopa Trail was pretty well beaten in, so I think it must have been there for a while; I just didn't know about it. (For some reason, I thought that the Maricopa Trail would continue on from where The Divide Trail meets Hawknest.) Anyway, I plan to explore further sometime soon. I'm wondering if it somehow connects to Spur Cross... that would be quite a ride!

When I got back to the Preserve, I continued on Dove Valley, turned left on Stagecoach, then right on Hawknest. I turned left when I got to Broken Spoke and met my wife where it intersected with High Desert.

We continued on High Desert, turned left (east) on Corral and then turned left (east again) onto Dry Gulch. From the end of Dry Gulch we returned via Cholla Mountain Loop, Balanced Rock, Granite Mountain Loop, Granite Mountain, Black Hill, Turpentine, and 136th St Express.

Update: I found two maps of the Maricopa Trail that may be of interest:

Maricopa and Sun Circle Trails

Spur Cross - Bronco

These maps show that a 1.3 mile gap between the area I explored and the Bronco Trailhead will open in Dec, 2017.

That said... I've hiked some of the Maricopa Trail from Spur Cross while hiking up to Skull Mesa. TR 247 (Cottonwood) is beyond my skill and aerobic capacity as a mountain biker. So riding from Granite Mountain to Spur Cross is probably not in the cards for me.
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Mar 25 2017
The_Eagle
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 Guides 5
 Routes 792
 Photos 9,159
 Triplogs 1,080

63 male
 Joined Jan 20 2009
 Far NE Phoenix,
McDowell Sonoran Preserve-North Loop, AZ 
McDowell Sonoran Preserve-North Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 25 2017
The_Eagle
Hiking15.43 Miles 919 AEG
Hiking15.43 Miles   4 Hrs   58 Mns   3.13 mph
919 ft AEG      2 Mns Break13 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
Short walk in the park.
Beautifully cool weather.
The park is busting with blooming flora.
Banana Yucca, Poppys, Brittlebush, Blue Dicks, Fiddleneck, Scorpionweed,Desert Chicory, Globemallow, Luppine, Woolly Daisy, Wiry Lotus, Chuparosa and even Microseris :), to name a few.

This is the best time of year to enjoy this park

With afternoon plans, the goal was to hit a few trails out there I had not been on.

There were no @Mazatzal or @Crzy4AZ sightings
Flora
Flora
Banana Yucca
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Dec 11 2016
mazatzal
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 Routes 31
 Photos 2,166
 Triplogs 1,073

62 male
 Joined Jul 28 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
Hawknest Trail - MSPNPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 11 2016
mazatzal
Hiking10.00 Miles 900 AEG
Hiking10.00 Miles   4 Hrs   45 Mns   2.31 mph
900 ft AEG      25 Mns Break
 
Back to the McDowell Preserve!
Hawknest-Stagecoach-High Desert-Renegade-Dove Vally-Barb’s-136th Street
Saw a coyote, a couple of hawks and jack rabbits.
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Sep 11 2016
DarthStiller
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 Guides 15
 Routes 234
 Photos 6,043
 Triplogs 437

50 male
 Joined Jul 05 2006
 Mesa, AZ
Old Camp Trail - MSPNPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Sep 11 2016
DarthStiller
Hiking14.00 Miles 817 AEG
Hiking14.00 Miles   4 Hrs   52 Mns   2.88 mph
817 ft AEG
 
1st trip
Went back up to the northern part of the McDowell Sonoran Preserve to hike more trails I haven't done before the start of football season. I started at the end of 136th St. again and hiked my way over to the Old Camp Trail and back again. I took 136th St. Express, Barb's Trail, Old Paint Wash Trail, High Desert Trail, Hawknest, Dove Valley, Stagecoach, Old Camp, Hawknest again, Stagecoach again, then Dove Valley all the way back to Barb's to 136th St. Express and back to my car.

I only saw 2 hikers very early and then a few bikers after that. I think for the last 3.5 hours of my hike I didn't see anyone. on the Dove Valley Trail right before the step over gate at the NW corner of the park there was a diamondback lying on the trail. I got some pics and walked around him, going off trail for a bit. He turned his head to look at me a bit as I inched closer to him, so I decided not to get him riled up for the sake of a nicer pic with him all coiled up.

There's a map and kiosk up in that NW corner of the park at the step over gate. Not sure if it's ok to park here, although it seems kind of remote to drive to.

Hiked over a half marathon this morning, total time 4 hours, 57 mins, with only 5 min, 31 seconds of total non-moving time. Not really even sore, I think the beastly hike Wally and I did last week on Mt. Lemmon helped with that.
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Aug 21 2016
DarthStiller
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 Guides 15
 Routes 234
 Photos 6,043
 Triplogs 437

50 male
 Joined Jul 05 2006
 Mesa, AZ
McDowell Sonoran Preserve North, AZ 
McDowell Sonoran Preserve North, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Aug 21 2016
DarthStiller
Hiking12.90 Miles 747 AEG
Hiking12.90 Miles   4 Hrs   45 Mns   2.72 mph
747 ft AEG
 
Went back up to the northern area of the McDowell Sonoran Preserve to do some more trails I haven't done yet. I decided to start from the Brown's Ranch Road Trailhead this time while the sun is still rising earlier and the gate there doesn't open until sunrise. For most of the morning the sky was overcast and there were some drops of rain on and off. This cooled the weather off, which I appreciated. Seems like last summer all my Sunday hikes were in blazing heat, this summer wasn't so bad.

From the TH I took the Brown's Ranch Road Trail to the Hawknest Trail, then headed north and turned right onto the Broken Spoke Trail. from there I headed east on the High Desert Trail and then south on the Divide Trail, west on the Cholla Mtn Loop Trail, north on Stagecoach, west on same section of the High Desert Trail I just hiked, then south on the High Desert Trail, then took the Corral Trail and Brown's Ranch Road Trail back to the TH.

Along the Divide and Stagecoach Trails, there were signs for the North Diablo and South Diablo Trails, which seems to be a more difficult trail that loops back onto the Divide Trail and also has a connecting trail to the Stagecoach Trail. Just north of the junction of the Divide and Branding Iron Trails, there was also another trail that headed east into the unmarked area of the lastest map.

Saw mostly mountain bikers again, the only other hikers I noticed were in the distance, hiking on a different trail than me. Finished with a total of 12.9 miles for the morning, just shy of a half marathon.
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Aug 07 2016
DarthStiller
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 Guides 15
 Routes 234
 Photos 6,043
 Triplogs 437

50 male
 Joined Jul 05 2006
 Mesa, AZ
McDowell Sonoran Preserve North, AZ 
McDowell Sonoran Preserve North, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Aug 07 2016
DarthStiller
Hiking12.10 Miles 579 AEG
Hiking12.10 Miles   4 Hrs   37 Mns   2.62 mph
579 ft AEG
 
After finding out about the legal parking lot at the end of 136th St., thanks to Crzy4AZ's forum post, I was eager to get back up to this area and start some of these newer trails. It doesn't take long after the pavement ends that 136th St. starts to get a bit gnarly. Nothing a standard sedan shouldn't be able to handle in dry weather, though.

I started with the 136th St. Express Trail at Montello, headed south, then made a right turn heading west on the Hawknest Trail. I took that all the way out to the Stagecoach Trail, then headed south on that trail to the High Desert Trail and headed east. After that I headed north, back up towards the Hawknest Trail, and did a mini loop of a few short trail segments there before heading east again on the Dove Valley Trail. I finished up taking Barb's Trail NE to 136th St. Express again and headed back to my car. 12.1 miles total.

The heat wasn't too bad, but it was picking up by the time I finished. There were breezes often enough that it made things pretty bearable. I used my new hoodie t-shirt to keep the sun off my head some, and that also helped a bit. Saw a little bit of wildlife this time. Right at the start I saw 2 doe, but was only able to get a photo of one. Saw a rabbit and a desert hare that each stayed still long enough for me to get decent photos. Saw more bikers up here than hikers, which is pretty standard, especially with the heat. Looking forward to get back to this area to finish these trails.
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Mar 27 2016
mazatzal
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 Routes 31
 Photos 2,166
 Triplogs 1,073

62 male
 Joined Jul 28 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
McDowell Preserve North, AZ 
McDowell Preserve North, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 27 2016
mazatzal
Hiking14.70 Miles 1,170 AEG
Hiking14.70 Miles   5 Hrs   30 Mns   2.99 mph
1,170 ft AEG      35 Mns Break
 
Another loop in MSPN :roll:

Turpentine-WhiskeyBottle-Latigo-118St-Watershed-Maverick-ChollaLoop-Stagecoach-HighDesert-TheDivide-BrandingIron-GraniteLoop-CoyoteCanyon-SoapberryWash-DoveValley-CowPoke-GraniteLoop-Bootlegger

Great weather not too hot and some nice breeze from time to time. Saw a gila monster but I only got a rubbish photo of its tail before it disappeared under a rock :tt:
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Saguaro - Crested
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Feb 26 2016
Sun_Ray
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 Routes 7
 Photos 753
 Triplogs 1,015

71 male
 Joined Sep 09 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
High Desert Trail - MSPNPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 26 2016
Sun_Ray
Hiking7.88 Miles 468 AEG
Hiking7.88 Miles
468 ft AEG
 no routesno photosets
Helping with a trail restoration project for McDowell Sonoran Conservancy. MSC, in conjunction with the City of Scottsdale, will be testing several types of seeding variations on trails that are no longer being used. They are in the vicinity of the High Desert Trail and Stagecoach Trails North of Brown's Mountain. I was part of a team of 6 that measured, using a meter tape, ten 25 meter lengths of trail. Some are 'control' area's that will not be seeded and others will use 2 types of seed mix and will be seeded before monsoon season or fall of this year. We had to find trail sections that did not have more than a 10% grade for the test as we were looking for areas where seed would not be washed away. The lead of the project had an iphone app where she could lay the phone down on the trail and it would calculate the % of grade....pretty cool. A narrow, small tractor will ripp the soil, so it's not as compacted, before the trail is seeded.
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Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday......there is no SOMEDAY!
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Jan 11 2016
Sun_Ray
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 Routes 7
 Photos 753
 Triplogs 1,015

71 male
 Joined Sep 09 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
High Desert Trail - MSPNPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 11 2016
Sun_Ray
Hiking7.10 Miles 351 AEG
Hiking7.10 Miles   3 Hrs   16 Mns   2.17 mph
351 ft AEG
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Partners none no partners
Trying to complete the trails North of Brown's Mountain known as the 2C area. Turned into an adventure when about half way through I started experiencing frequent urination and lower abdominal pain. Changed my plans a little and took the shortest way back to the car. Finished about 11:30 in the morning and asked my wife to take me to the ER when I experienced lower right back pain at 3 PM. Yes, as you've guessed...it was a small kidney stone. Had a morphine shot and when that did not help within 15 minutes they gave me an IV push of Toradol...nsaid I'd not heard of. That worked! I'm lucky as I've not had any pain or discomfort for about 23 hours. Looks like it broke up and passed without any pain.

Guess I need to add another item to my statement "Where do you NOT want to be when you have your next heart attack?" The same can be said about passing a kidney stone.
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Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday......there is no SOMEDAY!
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Dec 30 2015
RowdyandMe
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 Guides 6
 Routes 358
 Photos 14,426
 Triplogs 1,625

65 male
 Joined Jul 16 2012
 Deer Valley, AZ
Stagecoach Trail - MSPNPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 30 2015
RowdyandMe
Hiking12.50 Miles 702 AEG
Hiking12.50 Miles   4 Hrs   58 Mns   2.82 mph
702 ft AEG      32 Mns Break10 LBS Pack
 
Well the weather was perfect today for hike with Rowdy. We did meet Sun Ray in the parking lot. He just finished his hike and we were just getting started on ours.
Browns Ranch Trail was busy but once we turned onto the Maverick Trail we pretty much had the trails to ourselves. It is always nice hiking on new trails and checking out the area. I did see a bow hunter just off 118th street and did not see any deer. I am not sure if it is bow season or not. It was really a nice peaceful hike.
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Dec 03 2015
Crzy4AZ
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 Guides 31
 Routes 96
 Photos 2,588
 Triplogs 595

46 female
 Joined Apr 02 2007
 Scottsdale, AZ
Stagecoach Trail - MSPNPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 03 2015
Crzy4AZ
Hiking6.35 Miles 269 AEG
Hiking6.35 Miles   2 Hrs   29 Mns   2.56 mph
269 ft AEG
 
no photosets
1st trip
Dropped kids off at school then drove to BR trailhead and parked car. Called Uber for a ride to the top of Stagecoach Road - cost me $17 with tip. Didn't get murdered or kidnapped or molested. Took Powerline Road #1 Trail (that is an official trail now and is not on HAZ list yet) to Dove Valley Trail and then did the entirety of Stagecoach Trail. Connected with Cholla Mtn and back to my car. Still had time for nap at home before picking up kids.

Many of the new area 2C trails in far northern region MSP are hard to get to by foot unless you have endless free time and no hobbies or work or family. You can park in Tonto National Forest on the other side up at 136th St -- but it's still several long day hikes to cover all these new trails. I prefer the shuttle idea and Uber gives me endless options. Just need an address and cell phone signal and I can get a ride back to my car.

Stagecoach is pretty - winding - narrow - mostly made for bikers. Didn't see any hikers until I got to Corral trail.
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Oct 18 2015
mazatzal
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 Routes 31
 Photos 2,166
 Triplogs 1,073

62 male
 Joined Jul 28 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
McDowell Preserve Far North Area, AZ 
McDowell Preserve Far North Area, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 18 2015
mazatzal
Hiking10.10 Miles 520 AEG
Hiking10.10 Miles   4 Hrs   18 Mns   2.55 mph
520 ft AEG      20 Mns Break
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We went back to check out more of the new trails in the McDowell Preserve far north area.

Browns Ranch Rd :next: Maverick :next: Cholla :next: Stagecoach :next: High Desert :next: Broken Spoke :next: Hawksnest :next: Buckshot :next: Corral :next: Upper Ranch :next: TH.

We saw another water catchment ‘tank’. The far north area was pretty quiet (7 bikers) the main area was not
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average hiking speed 2.62 mph

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