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Jan 29 2017
FLYING_FLIVER
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 Fountain Hills,
Government Hill and GOVT HILL BM, AZ 
Government Hill and GOVT HILL BM, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jan 29 2017
FLYING_FLIVER
Hiking7.11 Miles 2,498 AEG
Hiking7.11 Miles   6 Hrs   42 Mns   1.88 mph
2,498 ft AEG   2 Hrs   55 Mns Break
 
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About the triplog title.
Government Hill and "GOVT HILL” BM are not in the same place.

I first used the trail, ’Haunted Canyon W TH to Saddle.’
I then continued on with ‘Government Hill Trail’. From Government Hill, I descended the ‘hill’ to the west, down to Bull Basin Trail. There’s no trail down to Bull Basin, and the descent is steep, but very doable.

Bull Basin runs north-south here. I crossed Bull Basin going west, but not very far.
My plan was to continue west, off trail, and up another mountain peak. From that peak I was going to go two short peaks north, to a peak that has a benchmark symbol on TOPOs. From Bull Basin Tr, west to the BM, is only about 4 tenths of a mile in distance, and 500 Ft ‘up’.

As it turns out, I hiked only about 300 ft west of Bull Basin Tr and discontinued the pursuit. The vegetation was that very thick, 6 to 7 ft high, intertwined ‘stuff’, that I knew was going to exist for more than half the way up the mountain. (And more than half the way ‘down’ the mountain on the return).

Even in the planning stage of this hike, I was almost sure I wouldn’t do that last part of the planned adventure, as Google Earth gave very good (bad?) satellite views of that thick stuff.
(I experienced this same type vegetation last week, and was not pleased - It took forever and was exhausting).
Once the thick brush stopped me, I retraced my way back and made the hike an out-and-back.

As many know, ‘the hill’ named Government Hill has a benchmark. It’s benchmark has ‘No-Name’ on its disk.
The disk displays the elevation (5445) and that’s it. No other stamped info, other than the normal “USGS” and “$250 fine for disturbing” etc.

The BM I didn’t reach is on a No-Name peak - (TOPOs call it Pk 5501, just because of its BM elevation).
Here’s the fun part - The No-Name peak’s benchmark is named (and stamped), “GOVT HILL”.

So, …….. Here we have a mountain many hike to, called Government Hill, with a no-name disk, and we have a no-name mountain with a disk named “Govt Hill”. I’m sure there’s logic to all this - or maybe not.
I have a copy of the “Govt Hill” data sheet, with excellent info on how ‘To Reach’ the “Govt Hill” BM, on the No-Name peak. I have inquired, twice, to the USGS for info on the No-Name BM located on Government Hill, and they state “they don’t have a record of that No-Name disk”. Interesting.

For the most part, this hike was a good adventure. Alot of water is still running down Haunted Canyon Trail, and Paradise Tank is full. Government Hill Trail had alot of ice on the ‘smooth rock parts’, which was avoidable by hiking a bit off trail.
Sadly, the Government Hill’s summit log sheet (Blank side of some sheet music) was all wet and barely readable. I hung it out to dry while I was up there, and also added another dry sheet of paper.

One new experience for me, on this hike.
I talked with a hiker who was hiking with four dogs. Each dog had its own personal locator beacon around its neck, with a curved, wire antenna coming out of it. If they got out of sight, or lost, the hiker had a transmitter/receiver that would lead him to any of his lost canines. I thought that was really cool.
I’m sure HAZ hikers with dogs know all about ‘Canine PLBs”, but it was a first for me.
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Jan 22 2017
friendofThunde
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 Joined Jan 21 2013
 AZ
Government HillGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 22 2017
friendofThundergod
Hiking11.33 Miles 2,636 AEG
Hiking11.33 Miles   5 Hrs   55 Mns   2.06 mph
2,636 ft AEG      25 Mns Break
 
I started my morning headed towards Rogers Trough to do White Mountain, but no vehicle is getting across Queen Creek right now and I saw first hand why. I pulled up behind a pickup who had a friend outside mulling over whether it was crossable. I kept thinking that there was no way that it was uncrossable and I even thought for a minute that the guy ahead of me might be being a little cautious and if he did not go, I was just going to go around him and try, but just then he went for it after his friend on the outside seemed to give him the thumbs up. He was done for as soon as he hit the water, his front end briefly went hood deep he lurched forward a little and then there he sat about bed deep in Queen Creek. I got out and said to his friend, "well I am not going this way," turned around and headed back to the 60 for a plan B.

I figured I could not go wrong with Miles trailhead for a plan B, although, it did cross my mind that even that road may be impassable due to the rock slides that always occur out there after a big rain. I got lucky and it was clear sailing to the TH. Every drainage was flowing along the road and it was very apparent from the start that the area had been hammered recently. I ended up stopping before Miles and went in Paradise Trail to do a variation of the Bull Basin loop, but with Government Hill and its long ridgeline as an off trail linking route between the two trails. Paradise was a tremendous start to the day. It was nearly impossible to keep your feet dry on the trail, the creek was raging and trailside was one cascade after another, topped off by the main attraction which is less than a mile in. From the flowing water of Paradise, it was across the snow dusted ridgeline to Government Hill for some fantastic views. In particular, the Ancha are in rare form and look more like a range in Colorado right now due to the amount of snow its holding. From Government Hill it was down to Bull Basin, more cascades, more water and then the rugged detour up Rock Creek Trail to view its falling water highlight.

It was impossible to stay dry going up Rock Creek, as it was just calming down from what looked to be a pretty intense little flash flood. The crossings were deep and fast, but all manageable. The horrible trail along the bench was probably worse anyways. Its a real shame the Forest Service decommissioned this trail, it was probably a good one in its day, now the falls are slowly becoming perhaps not worth the hassle. A couple stretches of the trail along the bench are becoming a tad brutal with acacia, deadfall and general overgrowth, during lower water this can be remedied through simply walking up the creek bed, however, that was not happening today. The hike back from the falls went much quicker, as I took up to wading more stretches of the creek when I could, rather than bushwhacking along its edge. Once I hit Bull Basin, it was a pretty quick hike back to the car and other than the fact that West Pinto looks nearly impossible to cross on foot right now, nothing overly exciting occurred.

A great plan B!
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Nov 20 2016
friendofThunde
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Government HillGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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friendofThundergod
Hiking11.80 Miles 3,328 AEG
Hiking11.80 Miles
3,328 ft AEG      46 Mns Break
 
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I showed @lindaagm a few old favorites in the Eastern Supes today. We started at the Paradise Trail trailhead, hit Government Hill along the way to Haunted Canyon where we visited the cabin and then took the old and no longer maintained alignment of 203 to switch it up a little coming out of Haunted Canyon.

The weather was perfect, there was just enough water for the dogs and all of the trails are in great shape. We only ran into one group all day and it was near the cabin. A little fall is still going on out there and I imagine with some rain today and tomorrow the hiking conditions will only improve. We did have to utilize the FR to complete out loop, but it was only about 1.5 miles.

Thank you for still hiking with me Linda after I showed up 20 minutes late, with my fuel light on and no wallet.
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Dirt Tank - Haunted Canyon 1-25% full 1-25% full

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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Paradise Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
There are some significant puddles at and around the area marked spring on the map.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Tony Ranch Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
Full and modest drip from pipe in trough.
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Nov 20 2016
LindaAnn
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 Ahwatukee, AZ
Paradise Trail # 271Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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LindaAnn
Hiking12.11 Miles 3,356 AEG
Hiking12.11 Miles   6 Hrs   18 Mns   2.19 mph
3,356 ft AEG      46 Mns Break
 
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Anytime I'm going on a hike someone else has planned, I ask for details. I always look forward to the complete line of BS I receive on a Lee-planned hike. No complaints--it's part of the fun.

We got started around 7:30 and headed up Paradise Trail. Very pleasant uphill climb on a nice trail that masked the amount of elevation we actually gained. We took a side trip up to Government Hill, which was a little brushy, but not too terrible. At one point, Lee was like "Sorry!", my response was along the lines of "Oh that's okay, you've put me through worse." Nice views from the top, we took a quick break, then headed back down.

We took Haunted Canyon over to Tony Ranch, looked around there, took a lunch break, then headed back along what I guess was an old alignment of Haunted Canyon? Took Haunted Canyon back to the road, then walked the road back to the car. Nice day, with cloud cover nearly the entire time.
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Oct 16 2016
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 AZ
Paradise Trail # 271Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 16 2016
wallyfrack
Hiking10.75 Miles 3,214 AEG
Hiking10.75 Miles   5 Hrs   50 Mns   1.84 mph
3,214 ft AEG
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I hiked up Haunted Canyon trail and explored some. On the way out Paradise trail came to mind. On the way out Paradise trail Government Hill came to mind. While on top of Government Hill the spur to Bull Basin came to mind but I didn't bring enough water so I was safe this time. :lol: The views up on Government Hill are pretty nice. There are only about 7 entries on the summit register which was placed there in 2011. The person who orchestrated the register used a page of sheet music. There may B sharp rocks on the hike up so watch tour step until you C flat ground. Other than that the route is easy. Once back on Paradise trail it was pleasant hiking. The toughest part was hiking the forest road back up to the Haunted Canyon trail as you gain 600+ feet when you think you are done. The trails are in good shape so you need to go off trail to have any fun.
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Mar 20 2015
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Miles Ranch, AZ 
Miles Ranch, AZ
 
Car Camping avatar Mar 20 2015
mazatzal
Car Camping23.00 Miles 4,900 AEG
Car Camping23.00 Miles
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Our 17th annual spring break trip for the 2-3 of us (Max and I haven’t done all 17 but Jim has). Good times.
This year we chose Miles Ranch and must give some HAZ appreciation to Lee for sure on this one: thanks for all the suggestions and useful info.

After 30 years of AZ hiking I finally make it to one of FOTG’s favorites :lol: I’m not sure why I hadn’t been here but I think perhaps the massive open pit mines had something to do with it.

Day 1
West Pinto out to Spencer and up to Cement Spring. On the way back we took Cuff Button up to a bit beyond Jerky Spring which was down the side slope.
We got about 3 hours rain in late afternoon but it eased up by 6pm.

Day 2
Paradise to Government Hill ridge and over to Bull Basin. We saw a total of 8 deer (one large buck) on the ridge part of this trip. The descent to Bull Basin we got in some heavy brush that was gnarly :sweat: On our return to Miles we saw 2 Toyotas with HAZ decals :)

Day 3
Out and back from Haunted Canyon upper TH. Saw one hiker, the only person we saw all weekend.

Stopped at AZW on the way back :)
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May 24 2014
friendofThunde
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Haunted Canyon #203Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Backpack avatar May 24 2014
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Backpack25.37 Miles 3,760 AEG
Backpack25.37 Miles3 Days         
3,760 ft AEG
 
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Invited Oregon Hiker for a nice and easy back pack in the Eastern Supes. Fourth year in a row my friend Jim and I completed a Memorial Day trip to the Supes. Along with Jim my buddy Brian also came along, he had spent all week waiting to activated for the Slide Fire, but as luck would have it he was never called and was able to come along.

The hike in was your pretty standard hike into Toney Ranch, plenty of water still in the creek and flowing steady in some areas, poison ivy is also out in full force, we will see how that goes in the next few days. Met Jim at the campsite just before noon, he had packed in on Thursday. We really just relaxed Saturday saw all the main attractions, hiked a little of the "backyard" route, did some exploring near camp and generally just relaxed around camp.

On Sunday myself, Larry, Brian and the dogs borrowed a hike out of the Eastern Superstitions Guide book and completed the Government Hill cross-cut. We were able to find enough sections of old ranching and use trails to make the hike pretty mild in terms of difficulty. In fact, the worst part was undoubtedly making our way down Bull Basin to its intersection with Haunted Canyon Trail 203 and the completion of our modest loop. We could have probably done more, but it was pretty warm at times, we had the dogs, and there was no need to push it. Larry and I took one final exploring session later in the afternoon, but other than that it was just rest and relaxation around the camp, with an occasional plunge in the creek to cool down.

Temperatures were great at night, heat broke enough to enable comfortable sleeping, no shortages of water around the camp, easy hike out Monday morning and eating lunch at The Sisters in Superior by noon.

Product Review: Bought an Osprey Daylite Pack to see if it would work for upcoming canyon trip, two thumbs up. Perfect pack for squishing inside a large pack to bring along for day trips from camp. Carried 200 oz of water in it and did not feel that it was too heavy for pack, very comfortable. I think it will be perfect for bringing along on upcoming five day trip and using to sneak down to river and explore.

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Dry per Jim.

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