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Nov 21 2020
Marc1024
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50 male
 Joined Feb 07 2016
 Queen Creek, Ari
Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Backpack avatar Nov 21 2020
Marc1024
Backpack9.95 Miles 1,317 AEG
Backpack9.95 Miles   6 Hrs   28 Mns   1.90 mph
1,317 ft AEG   1 Hour   13 Mns Break
 
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Nov 17 2020
wallyfrack
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59 male
 Joined Mar 11 2003
 AZ
Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Backpack avatar Nov 17 2020
wallyfrack
Backpack21.00 Miles 3,550 AEG
Backpack21.00 Miles3 Days         
3,550 ft AEG
 
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Yes, once in a while I get out and backpack. I try to like it but it's just not my thing. The weather was a bit warm which made the evenings nice but the days were hot. We camped near Music Spring and got water there as well. The water at La Barge Spring or Charlebois Spring is better but this was convenient. We basically explored some in the morning and in the late afternoon to stay out of the heat. We did see one Black-tailed rattlesnake in a side wash north of Charlebois spring. The snake was between to boulders that were about 4 feet apart. I was following Steve down the wash and he went through and just before I stepped in between the two boulders I saw the snake. It never rattled or even moved. It was nice to get out and explore a little.

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Better at La Barge Spring and Charlebois.
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Jan 21 2020
wallyfrack
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59 male
 Joined Mar 11 2003
 AZ
Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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wallyfrack
Backpack25.40 Miles 5,213 AEG
Backpack25.40 Miles
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I took off work and hiked onto the Supes. Tuesday rained more than expected so we hung out in Jake's cave. Wednesday was nice and we explored the area around Peters Mesa. Thursday was relatively warm and we hiked out. The trails were busier than I expected and Peralta Trailhead was full. There was work being done on Peralta road when we left.
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Cottonwood Canyon
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Jan 20 2020
DixieFlyer
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 Joined Jan 07 2017
 Fountain Hills,
Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 20 2020
DixieFlyer
Hiking15.10 Miles 2,680 AEG
Hiking15.10 Miles   6 Hrs   48 Mns   2.74 mph
2,680 ft AEG   1 Hour   17 Mns Break
 
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This is a pretty hike so I decided to take advantage of the nice weather and do this one again. There was a small group of us, and nobody else in the group had ever done this hike before. The riparian areas at La Barge Spring, Music Canyon Spring, and Charlebois Spring were awesome as always.

I was surprised how few people were on the trail for a holiday.

We passed by one burn area from the Woodbury Fire, and the grass is really green in the burn area.
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Music Canyon Spring Weavers Needle
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Fire Burn Area & Recovery
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Dec 16 2019
DixieFlyer
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 Fountain Hills,
Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 16 2019
DixieFlyer
Hiking15.20 Miles 2,580 AEG
Hiking15.20 Miles   6 Hrs   59 Mns   2.71 mph
2,580 ft AEG   1 Hour   22 Mns Break
 
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In a bit of a switch, Tracie (my favorite and intrepid hiking partner) persuaded me to do a hike today, and I am sure glad that she did. We hiked to Charlebois Spring and this turned out to be a super hike!

We started at the Peralta TH and took the Bluff Springs Trail to the Dutchman Trail, and took that to Charlebois Spring. We then retraced our steps back to the TH.

I had never been on this section of the Dutchman Trail, and it was really nice, especially the riparian areas at LaBarge Spring and Music Canyon Spring. There was even some decent fall foliage near the springs.

There were a number of creek crossings on the hike, and there was water at virtually every crossing. Fortunately, we had no problem keeping our feet dry as there were rocks to step on at every crossing. There seemed to be a good bit of water at every spring that I noticed -- Crystal Spring, Holmes Spring, LaBarge Spring, Music Canyon Spring, and Charlebois Spring.

We saw 2 deer on the Dutchman Trail, but that was the only wildlife that we saw.

We looked around a little bit for the Master Map, but did not find out. I'll have to do some research on the map location the next time that I go out there. We also looked for the "Giant" Saguaro while on the Dutchman Trail, but we did not see it either.

This hike is a keeper in my eyes, and I'm sure that I'll be back out there to do it again sometime.
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White Tailed Deer
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Autumn - Color Foliage
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There was some nice foliage in riparian areas, particularly at LaBarge Spring and at Music Canyon Spring.
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Feb 09 2019
wallyfrack
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59 male
 Joined Mar 11 2003
 AZ
Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Backpack avatar Feb 09 2019
wallyfrack
Backpack14.60 Miles 2,700 AEG
Backpack14.60 Miles2 Days         
2,700 ft AEG
 
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I decided to try the backpack/explore thing but it doesn't seem to work out that way. If the total distance is less than 20 miles it's just as easy to make it a day hike. The extra time hiking in with a pack and setting up camp seems to take away the advantage. Once camp is set there is a tendency to want to relax as well. Sure it good to get out and meet people but there's stuff out there that needs to be found! :lol: The hike in was good but the temperature dropped down to 25 degrees overnight. I guess it's easier to shake ice off the rain fly than dew. I hiked out by myself on Sunday which only took 2 hours and 15 minutes from La Barge Spring so decent time with a backpack. there is a lot of water in the Supes and it's always a good time.
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Jan 19 2018
Daytripper
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69 male
 Joined Dec 10 2016
 Gold Canyon
Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 19 2018
Daytripper
Hiking19.00 Miles 2,700 AEG
Hiking19.00 Miles   8 Hrs   40 Mns   2.53 mph
2,700 ft AEG   1 Hour   10 Mns Break22 LBS Pack
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Another great weather day and another long one. Wanted to have today's hike kiss the Marsh Valley loop from 4 days ago and managed to do so with the stretch of trail between the Bull Pass and Calvary junctions. For the second time planned to get a picture of the master map but came up empty. Spent about 40 minutes scouring the Large Barge creek bed and came up empty. For today's route took Terrapin trail to needle canyon it was clear of vegetation all the way,nice hiking alongside Weaver's needle, continued on Lost Dutchman from Bluff Spring to make it a loop I prefer to go up cardiac hill than to go down it. Charlebois spring is a nice spot,the water looked clear and filterable,unfortunately creekside along La Barge just north of Charlebois canyon there is significant amounts of debris at some abandoned campsites.Had a snack in the shaded area just before passing Red Tanks junction. Passed 2 hikers before Bark's Canyon and 2 backpackers in Barkley Basin and no one else. Surprised to not see any wildlife today.Ran out of water and daylight just as the parking lot came into view.My Garmin recorded 19 miles and route scout 18.7,seems route scout is always a little less,also I considered my search time as break time.
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Jan 28 2017
LindaAnn
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40 female
 Joined Dec 24 2007
 Ahwatukee, AZ
Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 28 2017
LindaAnn
Hiking19.06 Miles 3,307 AEG
Hiking19.06 Miles   10 Hrs   4 Mns   2.11 mph
3,307 ft AEG   1 Hour   1 Min Break
 
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We got to the trailhead shortly after 8:30, and the main lot was already full, so we parked in the overflow lot. We were immediately greeted by the sound of running water, such a novelty for me to hear in the desert. Headed up Bluff Springs, and there was a good amount of ice on the trail in a lot of places. Plenty of people on the trails too, it took us a couple of miles to get past two groups who had started at the same time as us.

We were able to get across most of the creek crossings with dry feet by carefully making our way across the rocks, but one crossing on Dutchman appeared to have no easy way across. After spending a few minutes looking back and forth for options, we crossed barefoot. Just past that, we climbed over some rocks on the east side of the creek to spare ourselves two more quick crossings.

We ran into @bifrost and @slowandsteady at Charlebois, and chatted with them for a few minutes. Also had a quick lunch at the spring, then continued on our way. There was less ice on Dutchman between Charlebois and the north end of Peralta, then the ice picked back up again on Peralta. By then, the trail was shaded, so it was rather cool. We only saw three people south of Fremont Saddle, and finished up the hike after sunset, using headlamps for the last mile or so. Very enjoyable day, and it was nice to be treated to the sound of water for nearly the entire way.
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Jan 28 2017
The_Whit
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39 female
 Joined Mar 12 2015
 Phoenix
Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 28 2017
The_Whit
Hiking19.06 Miles 3,307 AEG
Hiking19.06 Miles   10 Hrs   4 Mns   2.11 mph
3,307 ft AEG   1 Hour   1 Min Break
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Jan 14 2017
wallyfrack
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59 male
 Joined Mar 11 2003
 AZ
Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 14 2017
wallyfrack
Hiking14.10 Miles 3,227 AEG
Hiking14.10 Miles   6 Hrs   37 Mns   2.13 mph
3,227 ft AEG
 
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The forecast was for light rain so off I went. The trail traffic was light but I saw several campers along the way. I decided to hike up toward Bluff Spring Mountain to check out a cave. The cave was nothing special. I took a short cut on the way down found an old camp. It rained a little but then an hour later the sun was out. I finished before 2pm and stayed dry. The Peralta trailhead parking was full and Carney Spring had about 12 cars parked on the roadside. A bit too crazy for me.
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Nov 19 2016
survivordude
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39 male
 Joined Aug 19 2009
 The Basin
Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Backpack avatar Nov 19 2016
survivordude
Backpack18.00 Miles 3,200 AEG
Backpack18.00 Miles3 Days         
3,200 ft AEG
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3 day backpack trip with the J Brothers and Gabby dog in the western Supes and it was perfect. Made a loop up Bluff Springs to Dutchman and then back down Peralta. Not a long hike but this trip was about relaxing as well as hiking. Saturday we started out right at sunrise up Bluff Springs trail. Pretty much uphill the whole way until Bluff Saddle. Passed a couple Boy Scout troops camped right off the trail near the Bluff Springs/ Dutchman junction. The section between Bluff Saddle and Bluff Spring had some of the biggest Saguaros I have ever seen. I have heard the legends of the giant ones that have since fallen and there are definitely some new contenders in that area. The Dutchman flattens out to a nice valley for a while until approaching another area that when looking from a distance you can see several springs one after another down the valley. Skipped right by LaBarge Springs and stopped for a while at Oak Springs. This was a top notch camp spot. Lots of trees over hanging and didn't feel like the middle of the desert at all! Went on another mile and setup camp at Charlebois. There was a lot of water there and several groups came by to fill up as they said it was the only water available from there to First Water. At night it was kind of eerie to be so secluded but still see the lights from Phoenix lighting up the sky and creating some pretty cool silhouettes. Took a midnight trek to go find the "Master Map", unfortunately it was very dark and all the rocks look the same in our condition so we gave up and went back to camp. Jamaar took home the WTF and the astrophysicist merit badges that night. Hung out for quite a bit on Sunday morning just enjoying the unique little ecosystem. There were tons of frogs near the spring and I also saw some turtles under the water. Treated some water and then headed out on the Dutchman towards Marsh Valley. This was one of my favorite sections as the trail was very flat and sandy with some huge rock faces looming overhead the whole time. There were a few good camp spots around there, also. Made our way through Black Top Mesa Pass and over to Peralta Trail. The weather was perfect all day with just the right amount of humidity and overcast. Apparently it poured in the valley all day Sunday, we didn't get a drop all day! Made camp for the night at Piñon camp just a mile away from Freemont. We had stashed some water there 2 weeks ago, so the plan went perfect. I usually don't like to camp so close to people or a trail, but snuggling up to that needle for the night was a real treat. We found a great spot under some trees which worked out real well because we did get rained on during the night. Gabby injured a paw so the final 3 miles up and over Freemont and down Peralta on Monday morning were a little slow. She is a trooper, though, and I'm sure she will heal with some rest and extra bacon. Overall this was a fantastic trip with some great friends! Great to be back enjoying the desert we are so blessed to have so close to us!
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Weavers Needle

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Several pools, several feet deep
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Mar 06 2016
LindaAnn
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40 female
 Joined Dec 24 2007
 Ahwatukee, AZ
Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 06 2016
LindaAnn
Hiking17.87 Miles 3,163 AEG
Hiking17.87 Miles   8 Hrs   4 Mns   2.33 mph
3,163 ft AEG      24 Mns Break
 
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Wow, mosquitoes everywhere. That was probably my only complaint about today's hike. I got to the trailhead about 7am, and headed up Bluff Springs trail; cool, cloudy, and a little breezy. A good variety of wildflowers, but since I can identify exactly ONE type of flower, I have no idea what they all were. Lots of bees, then even more mosquitoes for pretty much the entire way. Headed north on Dutchman, and enjoyed all the water alongside the trail, the vegetation was green and lush--nice to see. Near Charlebois, I followed the directions Larry gave me and was able to immediately find the master map, then I headed over to Charlebois and chatted with a nice Canadian couple for a few minutes. Continued along Dutchman, eating a sandwich while I walked. The sun was out by this point, but still not too warm. Headed south on Peralta, luckily it had clouded over again, so heading up to the saddle was not too bad. At the saddle, I debated between heading back down on Cave trail, or sticking with Peralta. I like the Cave trail a lot more, but I didn't have a whole lot of water left, and I was cutting it close on time, so Peralta it was. Just below the saddle, I heard some noise off to my right, and saw a bighorn sheep jumping around on the rocks. Got some pictures of him, so that sort of made up for having to take Peralta. On the way down, I ran into 'Cycle87'--nice to meet you! and made pretty good time back to the car.
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Black Mountain
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Feb 27 2016
AZBeaver
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66 female
 Joined Jan 04 2014
 Phoenix, AZ
Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 27 2016
AZBeaver
Hiking14.32 Miles 2,206 AEG
Hiking14.32 Miles   8 Hrs   10 Mns   2.00 mph
2,206 ft AEG   1 Hour    Break10 LBS Pack
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Went hiking in the Supes with my friend Linda. The Peralta TH parking lot was only half full which is very strange for a Saturday. We went for Charlebois (which was not our original plan) but we did not make it as I had a little mishap. I got my hiking stick stuck in a rock and face planted in baby head-sized boulders scraping and bruising my arms and knee. My favorite hiking stick that AZ Wandering Bear made for me is now two hiking sticks (no longer usable unless your vertically challenged). Linda also had a near mishap as a gorgeous Gila Monster was sunning himself on a rock in the middle of the trail. She was less than two feet from him. The Gila Monster hissed with mouth wide open. He was not happy with us at all. I had planned to hike Flat Iron on Monday with the Trekkin Gecko and AZ Wandering Bear, but instead, I'm recovering from my bruised ego and body! Hate it when that happens! At least I got some good miles in and I got to enjoy a day with my good friend Linda.
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Jan 23 2016
rayhuston
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63 male
 Joined Mar 09 2012
 Gilbert, AZ
Bluff Spring Mountain LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 23 2016
rayhuston
Hiking16.40 Miles 3,227 AEG
Hiking16.40 Miles   8 Hrs   18 Mns   2.29 mph
3,227 ft AEG   1 Hour   9 Mns Break
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Today’s hike was really about Weaver’s Needle Crosscut, less than a mile in length but a worthy hike nonetheless. The rest of the hike was about checking out the omnipresent Bluff Springs Mountain from below while eating some miles on fun trails: Bluff Springs - :next: Dutchman - :next: Charlebois Spring - :next: Dutchman - :next: Terrapin - :next: Weaver’s Needle Crosscut - :next: Peralta. Dutchman from Charlebois to Terrapin is mostly new for me, as well as the Crosscut trail.

The hike started out with a cloud cover, then partly sunny and/or hazy for most of the rest of the hike. Water is still everywhere, especially along the Dutchman portion of this hike. Backpackers were out taking advantage. I saw at least a dozen groups on this grand tour.

The trails were in great condition. Even Terrapin, usually overgrown, has been trimmed back fairly recently. Thank you to the pruners. Aside from the steep, rocky slope on the way to Terrapin Pass, I enjoyed this portion of the hike. As usual, lots of people enjoying themselves on the Fremont Saddle hike.

Awesome hike, although things slowed down a bit after finishing the crosscut trail. I was tired.

Special shout out to Lynn, Kay and Jerry, a trio I met at the end of the Crosscut trail. It was nice meeting and talking with you!

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Oct 03 2015
wallyfrack
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59 male
 Joined Mar 11 2003
 AZ
Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 03 2015
wallyfrack
Hiking17.83 Miles 3,831 AEG
Hiking17.83 Miles   9 Hrs   7 Mns   1.96 mph
3,831 ft AEG
 
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Where are we going? Quo Vadis. What does Quo Vadis mean? Where are we going? This was a mining claim south of Black Mountain filed by Charles A. Kenworthy on 11/16/79. He ran a treasure hunting company Quest, an Exploration Corporation out of Tarzana, CA and once partnered with John Wayne. I hiked in early 5a and had the trail to myself. The air was cool and my ears got cold. I hiked up and found an old camp site on a saddle. I would guess this was the base from the items found. I didn't find any prospect holes but I did find a wheel from a wheelbarrow up the side of a hill with no flat ground in sight? I decided to summit Black Mountain and loop back via Peters Trail. On the hike out I saw several fresh small shoe prints in the dirt that I didn't notice on the trip in. I finally caught up with two gals (20's) who had planned on hiking the Miners Needle Loop but ended up hiking near the junction with Peters trail before turning back. They got the route off some other site so I told them about HAZ. I hiked with them until the saddle above Terrapin trail. They said they had enough water and knew the way from there so I went on ahead. There was a nice breeze today and it really didn't feel too warm even at 2p.
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Apr 18 2015
JasonCleghorn
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45 male
 Joined Nov 11 2014
 Amherst, NH
Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 18 2015
JasonCleghorn
Hiking14.47 Miles 2,743 AEG
Hiking14.47 Miles   5 Hrs   53 Mns   2.67 mph
2,743 ft AEG      28 Mns Break
 
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Great solo hike from Peralta to Charlebois(Charlie boy). Saw two mule deer, no snakes, and about three great camping spots. One place looked more like Florida than AZ. Made pretty good time, I think.
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Miners Needle Weavers Needle
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Feb 16 2015
charlieaz
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50 male
 Joined Apr 22 2008
 Mesa, AZ
Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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charlieaz
Hiking9.00 Miles 2,700 AEG
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Sadly the “50 arm cactus” has seen better days. We heard it had been struck by lightning and went to check it out. Sure enough. If you look at the attached picture the take on the left is from March 2011 and the take on the right is from Feb 2015.
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Jan 10 2015
The_Eagle
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64 male
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 Far NE Phoenix,
Charlebois Loop IIPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 10 2015
The_Eagle
Hiking18.17 Miles 2,988 AEG
Hiking18.17 Miles   8 Hrs   47 Mns   2.39 mph
2,988 ft AEG   1 Hour   10 Mns Break18 LBS Pack
 
Decided to Join Dennis on his HAZ outing.

Joe had a day of sweating to the 70's, hearing our arguments as to whether Roosevelt of Eisenhower was a better president, and what it was like to live through the Apache Wars. You just can't argue with 173 years of experience.

Dennis and I are the same age and I learned that we both lived in the same small town of Novi Michigan and rode our bikes to the same "Corner Store" to buy Penny Candy as kids. Small Friggin' World.

Perfect day all around. The Supe's always Rock, weather was exceptional, water was flowing and a great group of personalities was amassed.

While eating lunch, the Charliebois Spring area revealed it's own version of the Budweiser Frogs. Ray said he thought they were mating calls going on no more than 5 feet from us and went to investigate. Cue shaggin' music, "Yep" that's what's going on.

I'm used to taking Gatorade and Granola bar breaks while hiking, but Dennis does it differently. Probably the first time I've had Scotch with Lunch, and we had to take a Scotch break at a rocky outcropping on the way back. I look forward to our future 2 mile hikes.

Good meeting you Dennis, Ray great hiking with you again, Joe.... #180.
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Charlebois Spring

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Filterable water available in scattered pools

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Water up most of the canyon, but go to the spring.

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LARGE Pools to be able to swim or filter from.
Enjoy the croaking leopard frogs

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Always reliable, clear and filterable

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No water at the confluence

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Pools available to filter from

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Plenty of Filterable Water
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Jan 25 2014
AZLumberjack
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80 male
 Joined Feb 17 2010
 Apache Junction,
Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 25 2014
AZLumberjack
Hiking14.77 Miles 2,700 AEG
Hiking14.77 Miles   9 Hrs      1.85 mph
2,700 ft AEG   1 Hour    Break15 LBS Pack
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Charlebois Canyon and the Master Map

This is a Hike I have been wanting to do for some time now and finally everything came together so that I could finally do it with some great hiking friends. The planning didn't take too long to get everyone together for a one day hike from Peralta to Charlebois Springs and visit the "Master Map" while out there.

Saturday started out just about perfect with good temps and what should have been a partially cloudy day so we hit Cardiac Hill by 0730 and arrived at the Peralta Canyon overlook in quick fashion. The cloud cover was just about perfect to knock the edge off the bright sun and make for a good picture taking day, although there wasn't much color in the sunrise.

Hiking through Barks Canyon is shear pleasure cause the rock formations are some of the best in the Supes. By the time we were exiting Barks Canyon and joining the Dutchman Trail, the sun had burnt off the clouds and it soon began warming up. It was a pleasure to have Larry (Widowmaker) along since he had done this hike recently and was a good knowledge source for identifying the mountains and canyons that lay ahead of us.

At five miles into the hike we came upon the famous Saguaro with too many arms to count, however, the Saguaro is in its final stages of life and arms are breaking off and falling to the ground :( it's a very sad thing to see and knowing that it won't be around much longer. Back on the trail, it always amazes me how, in the midst of a drought, you can find patches of Mesquite, Jojoba, Palo Verde and others displaying full greenery.

We finally arrived at Charlebois Canyon (campground) and found the pools overflowing with clear cold water from the springs farther up the canyon. We removed our gear and had a quiet lunch break beside one of the deep pools, listening to the sounds of water tumbling over the rocks. The brush and Catsclaw was so dense further up the canyon that any thoughts of continuing our exploring were quickly dashed.

With our lunch and Chocolate Chip Cookies packed away again, we began our return hike with a side trip to the Master Map, sure wish I could decipher the circles, dots and lines making up the map because someone went through a lot of work chipping it into the rock :?

The sun was shining pretty intense now so as we found shaded areas our pace slowed to take full advantage of the cool trees. A bit of a breeze would have been a nice addition too. We made pretty good time on the return trip and as we hit Barks Canyon again, the late afternoon clouds made a reappearance. As we rounded a corner, Barkley Basin came into view with the sun still above the mountain ridge along its Southern edges. The winds around Casa Grande must be whipping up the sand and dust making it look like fog setting in between some of the lower hills.

It felt good to get back to the TH and get rid of the back packs at last. My Garmin GPS was showing 15.24 miles for our out-and-back hike but it was a good time had by all of us. Now it was time for Angela to open the cooler, pass around the bottles and we toasted to a good fun day with Pumpkin Spiced Beer. My heartfelt thanks to Angela, Ambika and Larry for putting up with an old hiker with bad knees for another outing in the Superstitions :y:

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Pools had ample quantities of water although little flow.

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Some water can still be found in the shaded pools, lots of algae around the edges.

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Water's flowing between clear pools but quickly disappears.

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Good flow coming into the upper pools.
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Threw out a couple choices for this Saturday's hike; Jack picked this one. He also found us a guide. :thanx: Larry for making sure we saw all the high points; doubt we would have found the Master Map without you.

We got started around 7:40 on one of the more longer hikes Jack or me normally do. I was a bit apprehensive but I knew most of the trail well and there's not much elevation change. I actually like tackling Cardiac Hill and filmed some of it. I put music to that part to help cover over my heavy breathing though :lol: .

It was a glorious morning :y: and the sky would add incredible depth and beauty to our photos as we hiked the Bluff Springs Trail. We were even lucky enough to have the sun light up the Needle too. And of course we got reflections in the ponds on the Barks Canyon crossover both coming and going. Plus I finally saw the Peralta engraving which I've never noticed before. We put some water on it so it would show better in the pictures. Interestingly enough, when we came thru in the afternoon, the inscription was much more evident and easy to see.

As you pass the Terrapin Junction I think I spotted Williams Camp up on Bluff Springs Mtn (I was reading about in the Supes book). In about 1/2 mile or so we even got to see some cardinals though quite a distance away. The clouds would dissipate significantly as we reached the Dutchman Trail Junction. We continued hiking at a good pace. I did happen to turn around at just the right time to spy the arch up on Bluff Springs Mountain. I had spotted it a couple years ago when we were doing another hike. I told Ambika others had been up there: http://hikearizona.com/photoset=23800.

Next we were looking forward to paying homage to the 50 arms cactus that is seemingly on its last arms so to speak :( . Along the way after climbing a small hill we spotted a hawk and watched as he flew. I did get some video. Next stop was the saguaro. It really is magnificent and we are glad to have seen it as Ambika and I missed it during our hike going south on the trail a couple years ago.

Finally :) we hit the Red Tanks Junction and it's all new territory for me. We figure we had another mile and 1/2 or so to go. You cross the mostly dry creek a couple times but also you hike through a heavily shaded area that is nice and cooling. It was really a lovely area. Eventually you end up following and rising above the creek, passing by Peter's Trail junction (glad to know where that is now) and then arriving at Charlebois Springs area not far before the creek bends to the NW.

Larry took us by the main pond and then up the canyon to his favorite spot where it more or less dead ends. This was a sweet spot for us to sit back and enjoy our lunch. And I for one was starved and a bit tired as we didn't take any breaks on the way. I was glad to finally be at a spot I had heard so much about.

Next, the MASTER MAP. Larry took us a bit of a different route as we went up the dry creek bed. Within a short time we were there, staring at the map many people miss on their first trip out here. I don't know that we would have found it without some assistance. We goofed around here (see the last video as I think you'll like what Ambika directed and Larry's acting was superb!) before heading back to the trail.

It was starting to warm up now. Plus somewhere along here I had stepped on some rocks wrong and ended up hurting a couple of my toes on my left foot :stretch: . It was pretty painful actually but I tried to adjust my walking to compensate for it and after about 3/4 mile, the pain seemed to have dissipated, thank goodness. Sunday morning I woke up to a bruised and swollen big toe so who knows what I stepped on to cause that; it brot back memories of my pine cone squashing injury.

As we made our way back to the Dutchman Junction, I asked ahead to see if we could stop in about 1/2 hour for a few minutes which we did. As we rounded the corner we said goodbye to the 50 arm saguaro and continued our trek to the Bluff Springs Junction where I once again asked for a 10 minute rest before we finished off our hiking. Jack's wife Pat had baked some cookies too so I thot this would be an opportune time to enjoy those as well.

From here we got a bit of a breeze as we made our way to the Terrapin Junction and up to Bluff Saddle where Larry had scampered up on a boulder and surprised us. Good one Larry! As we headed down into Barks the shade came into play. We stopped again at the crossover for some reflection pictures :DANCE: . As we came up Lower Barks Hill, I spotted Miner's Needle again. When we had come thru in the morning, I also spotted it but didn't realize it was the Needle thinking it was a new arch I had found :doh: . Guess I had just never looked over that way before.

And of course, hiking toward Barkley Basin later in the afternoon is always a treat as the whole valley is sun-kissed with a touch of gold. It makes that long rocky haul back to the TH more tolerable. We finished off the day with pumpkin spice beer talking about some of our journey. It was long but well worth it for me to finally see some new territory.

All of the video was shot on the way to Charlebois Springs including the 50 arm saguaro and the Master Map:
Video 1 up the Bluff Springs Trail to descent in Lower Barks Canyon: http://youtu.be/EpgMTXBUs6s
Video 2 continuing into Barks Canyon and on over to the Terrapin Junction: http://youtu.be/AnnGmQiy-_Q
Video 3 past Terrapin Junction onto Dutchman Trail ending at the hawk flying: http://youtu.be/-hkYjsPCLt8
Video 4 Dutchman Trail to Red Tanks Trail with stop at 50 arms saguaro: http://youtu.be/a27gjcFf71c
Video 5 continuing on Dutchman Trail to Red Tanks trail and on the Red Tanks Trail toward Charlebois Spring http://youtu.be/Du6mP_v2nV0
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Video 6 Red Tanks to Charlebois trough http://youtu.be/aP_j9eOWJQc
Video 7 Charlebois Upper pool, Master Map (the last few minutes are worth watching IMHO) http://youtu.be/5kIgNTFG9E4
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