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May 30 2021
trekkin_gecko
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 phoenix, az
Azt #35 #36 & #37, AZ 
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john had these three passages on his list for awhile
his co-worker kindly agreed to shuttle us, so the trip was on

sunday was a long day, leaving town around 0400
first we cached three gallons of water at forest road 320 where it crosses the trail north of moqui trailhead
hiked red butte on the way back to 180
drove into grand canyon national park and cached three gallons near grandview lookout
the park was an absolute zoo on memorial day weekend
we had lunch and grabbed dinner to go at the general store, then met our shuttle driver at the visitor center
joe dropped us off at cedar ranch trailhead around 1400
we hiked four miles to tub ranch, where we took a long break and filled up on water
decided to go another few miles with heavy packs stopping just before the turn onto single track
found a nice campsite and enjoyed sweeping views and cloud action before turning in

set out monday on the newer singletrack
had some cloud cover and even a thunderclap (not my favorite thing)
this trail is not the most scenic, especially the road walk
pretty exposed with little vegetation until further north
we made it to moqui and checked out the stage station
one passage down
went another four miles to our water cache, took a long dinner break and continued on
passed through the russell tank area and saw probably 30-40 feral horses going down to the tank for a drink
this was an odd area, and we wanted to get away from the horses before camping
found a nice enough campsite along russell wash

up before sunrise tuesday, we packed up and continued north
this passage was my favorite of the trip
singletrack through ponderosa pine, beautiful terrain
arrived at grandview lookout for another passage done
went up on the tower, which was closed, and had nice views of the north rim
got to our water cache and took a snack break
we had an ongoing discussion about how far we would try to get, with the goal a shorter finish on wednesday
ended up with another ten miles, taking breaks along the way
we also missed a turn, and it cost us two miles, uphill on the return in the sun ](*,)
found a good campsite only 4.5 miles from tusayan
another nice section in the pines, even the parts on two track

up early again on wednesday with only 13 miles to go
easy walk into tusayan, where we got a gallon of water for the finish
shortly after that point, the trail is mostly on bike paths
finished up at south kaibab amid hordes of tourists, got a photo and jumped on the orange bus
found my car and hit the road
had lunch in williams, gas in bellmont and were home late afternoon

notes:
somewhere around moqui, i developed a hot spot on the ball of my foot, which bothered me quite a bit the rest of the hike
we were happy with our water cache placements and the mileage we did each day, setting us up for an easy finish
water is heavy, even with an ultralight kit :sweat:
we did not see one hiker the entire trip, not counting the finish near south kaibab
saw three mountain bikers on babbitt ranch, one of them bikepacking
this was our longest backpack to date and we both felt it was a success
afternoons were mid 80s with occasional cloud cover, nights relatively warm between 50 and 60 degrees
great to get three more segments done :)
i've really enjoyed doing these with john, especially the backpacking
there's nothing like that first cup of coffee before sunrise, or kicking back in camp in the evening after a good long hike
thanks john, great trip!
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May 30 2021
johnlp
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 chandler,az
Azt #35 #36 & #37, AZ 
Azt #35 #36 & #37, AZ
 
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I have been looking at doing these three AZT segments since I finished the San Francisco Peaks segment last October. Finally got a volunteer to shuttle us from the Canyon to Cedar Ranch trailhead, at the beginning of the Babbit Ranch AZT segment.

We left Phoenix at 0400 Sunday morning with the goal of caching water at two locations and hiking up Red Butte as well. Mission accomplished. Joe K, from work, picked us up at the Canyon and shuttled us back to the beginning of our journey AZT #35. Thanks Joe!

The first day, beginning at 1400, we hiked 4 miles to Tub Ranch and water. From there we decided to push on to get ahead of schedule. We hiked uphill another 4 miles or so and set up camp for the night. The clouds put on an amazing show for us. This part of the AZT is a little bleak but definitely has it's own beauty.

Got up early and hit the trail the second day before 0630. Wide open spaces, clean air, no people, and no noise. Good stuff. As we made our way north some clouds moved in providing much appreciated shade. We hiked 4 miles past the end of segment #35 at Moqui Stage Station to our first water cache. We rested, cooked dinner, then decided to keep hiking to stay ahead of schedule avoiding a killer last day. Soon we started seeing enormous piles of horse poop in the trail. Then as we reached Russel Tank we saw 30+ wild horses and the poop made sense- more than one horse made the piles. It was getting late so we made haste to get past the tank and all the horse activity to find a camp site. About this time Kelly announced she had a large blister on the ball of her foot. We found a pretty nice camp site for the night.

Day three we were up early again hoping Kelly could continue hiking with a nasty blister. Our options were not good if she couldn't. The tread was pretty forgiving which helped a lot. Beautiful hiking through ponderosa forest all the way to Grandview Tower and the end of the second segment (#36). We climbed the tower and checked out the excellent views. Our second water cache was a little past the tower and we made our way there arriving before noon. Discussing out options, we decided to load up on water and push on as we far as we could so we would have a manageable last day. Hiking the whole last segment (23.5 miles) and driving home didn't strike us as very appealing. We hiked on in the afternoon warmth taking several breaks and a mile wrong turn. We walked right by a carsonite sign off a forest road. Oops. Eventually we found a great camp site less than five miles from Tusayan. Another 20+ mile day in the books.

Final day our plan was to leave camp at 0615 and pick up enough water in Tusayan at 0800 when the general store opens to complete our trek. Only 13 miles to go! Shortly after leaving Tusayan the trail becomes a paved pathway then you enter the national park. Before too long we were at the edge of the canyon and our finishing point at the South Kaibab trail head. Kelly got a couple of tourists to take our picture signifying the end of a most excellent adventure.

We completed our journey in less than three full days and did not see another hiker the whole way, not counting tourists the last quarter mile. Kelly really toughed it out hiking over thirty miles with a huge blister on her foot. First multi-day backpack in forever. Good times. Thanks Kelly! :)
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May 01 2021
corwinwilkins
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 Phoenix, AZ
Grand Canyon - South Rim - AZT #37Northwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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corwinwilkins
Backpack23.05 Miles 1,220 AEG
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Pretty flat and easy til Tusayan, then holy hell is that asphalt track brutal. I hate road walking. GCNP is touristy but always a banger of a view. We should have just slackpacked it.
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kyleGChiker
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Grand Canyon - South Rim - AZT #37Northwest, AZ
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Hiking33.98 Miles 3,608 AEG
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Overview: Completing our third passage on the AZT! :yes:

Who: Myself, mom Cindy, and sister Alyssa
Time frame: We completed this passage over the course of two days, Friday and Sunday. With better weather on Saturday, we hiked into the Canyon on the Grandview trail.
Campsite and Access: We camped about two miles in off FR302, which takes off to the east just after the first roundabout in Tusayan. It ended up being an ideal place to camp because of the easy access to town, yet far enough out to be quiet. The road was easy access, and although gravel, was easy to hit speeds of 50-60 MPH. Your suspension may vary... :lol: We also ended up driving the section of 302 between our campsite and the Grandview Lookout Tower TH. This road was also in good condition and a passenger vehicle could do it. Our average speed was 25-30 MPH.

The hike: We drove one vehicle to Grand Canyon village, rode the shuttle to the South Kaibab TH, and began the hike. The other vehicle was waiting for us at camp, which was conveniently only 0.25 miles off the AZT. The first part of the hike goes on the paved rim trail/bike path, but it quickly diverges (unmarked!) onto a hiking path on dirt. In short order, you'll cross highway 64 (east rim drive) and continue generally towards the west. If you have any GPS app on your phone, it should guide you pretty well. The trail blazes on the little signs with the AZT logo are very helpful to know which gravel road/trail to take. I say gravel road because oftentimes the trail switches back and forth between sections of gravel road and sections of trail. Also, several more miles are paved going south towards Tusayan. All in all, while it wasn't my favorite section of AZT we've done so far, it was fun and a nice way to enjoy time together, the cool weather, and the nice pine forests.

Next up? Not sure...we're hoping to complete either all passages south towards Flagstaff or all passages north of the Canyon by the end of the summer. I think everything south of the Mogollon Rim is too hot at this point. :sweat:

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Oct 11 2020
ttretta
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 Gilbert, AZ
Grand Canyon - South Rim - AZT #37Northwest, AZ
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Backpack23.05 Miles 1,220 AEG
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Days 3.5 of a 3 section hike. Made it to Grandview Lookout Tower in good time. Thankfully again, the same wonderful trail angel placed some public water at the trailhead. This was the first time in my section hiking the AZT that I had to use public water, so was very grateful for it. Otherwise would have had to end early. My destination on this 3rd day was to hike 20 miles to get to Tusayan for some good food and a shower. The last couple of miles just east of town seemed soooooo long. After a massive plate of mexican food, holed up at the Grand Canyon Lodge for the night. Hit the trail again early the next morning to finish it out to the South Kaibab Trailhead. Walked the rim trail back to the visitor center, and enjoyed the beautiful views.
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Maple trees were starting to turn.
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Oct 10 2020
desertadapted
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 Phoenix, AZ
Kaibab Plateau Central - AZT #41Northwest, AZ
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I'm continuing my project of trying to section hike the AZT. Much of Passages 42 and 43 (From UT to Jacob Lake) are closed due to fire activity, so I'm leaving those final two passages for the spring/summer of 2021. This report will be succinct.

Day 1. Light day with a late start and early camp. There is substantial historical fire damage (I'm not educated enough to know how much of the damage was from clear cutting). I was just glad to be on the trail.

Day 2. Made a big push to complete Passage #41 and #40, camping about 1/2 mile from the park boundary. It was one of my top ten favorite days hiking. After leaving behind burn/clear cut, I got to enjoy fall color, lovely forest, meadows, etc. Although I may have just hit it at the right time of year, Passage #40 is easily one my of favorite AZT Passages.

Day 3. Woke up to a frozen water bottle and proceeded into Passage #39 (GCNP North Rim). After kicking around the North Rim for a bit, I hiked down to Cottonwood Campground. Hiking Rim to Rim in the past, I'd never thought much of the campground. How wrong I was! Tastefully located with excellent spacing between sites, I'm looking forward to going back.

Day 4. Had an alpine start to avoid too warm a hike up the South Kaibab trail, given that it's so sun exposed beginning at the Tonto. I was sad to miss as much of the Canyon interior as I did, but I'd gotten my fill a few weeks before, and wanted to make sure I was safe. After a successful resupply at the very friendly post office, I walked into Tusayan for a late lunch. The trail to Tusayan is on a bike path and is no fun at all. After some beer and vittles, I hiked out of Tusayan a few miles before collapsing.

Day 5. AZT #36 is just too pretty. I hadn't registered how many GC views it provides. The Grandview Tower was well worth the stop (along with cached water). I tuckered out near Moqui Stage Station, wanting to get some rest before a big push across Babbitt Ranch.

Day 6. AZT #35 was a study in contrasts. The ATA appears to have completed some amazing re-routes that have eliminated historical road walks (only a few miles of road remain). They did a great job - the trail is very well done. But Passage 35 is still exposed and dry as all get out. I spent most of it hiding under my umbrella and mumbling. Were it not for Tub Ranch, where there is a critical water source, I think I'd have cried. I also fell in love with the local dog. After a brief road walk out to the Coconino NF boundary, I crashed, glad the day was over. Beautiful trail, but that's tough country to love.

Day 7. AZT #34 is famous, and rightly so. The San Francisco Peaks are a real treat. I could hike that Passage over and over. If you were in the area and saw some strange dude hugging a pine tree, it wasn't me. I swear. I crashed out a few miles past Alfa Fia tank (is a tank really a tank without cow dung all over?). Alfa Fia itself was crowded with hikers out to see the sunset. The energy was great.

Day 8. I've got lots of love for the ATA and there are major limits on where trail can be sited, but I am not a fan of the Flagstaff urban bypass route. The first stretch you're in significant competition with mountain bikers who really really really want you to get out of the way. The second stretch, there's a fair bit of uphill, which was a bit of a bummer given that all I had on my mind was a shower, pizza and beer. But I finally got my whiney self to a motel, where I accomplished all three. To glorious excess.

As a parting note, the trip would not have been nearly as fun were it not for the dedicated ATA volunteers who provided water caches at critical points along the trail. Manna from heaven. Interestingly, during my week on trail, I only encountered three NOBO and no SOBO backpackers (other than within the GC), so the SOBO flow was not substantial enough for me to overtake/be overtaken by anyone else. Not sure if that's par for the course or whether COVID and fires have done their number on trail volumes.

I'm looking forward to Passages 42 and 43 next year and really hope that in the next ~6-7 years I'm able to find time to do the whole trail as a thru-hike. Thank you ATA!
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 Sierra Vista
Grand Canyon - South Rim - AZT #37Northwest, AZ
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Hiking23.05 Miles 1,220 AEG
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Mountain Bike. Elk Herds and hummingbird in my hair. Smoke from wildfires
Jun 19 2020
alexofaz
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 Peoria, Az
Grand Canyon - South Rim - AZT #37Northwest, AZ
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I knocked out the 36 and 37 in smaller bites as I was running solo, yoyoing at the start. As I finished the two passages up I was joined by a friend who helped with staging my vehicle so I could just walk the smaller sections in a single direction.
For 37 I yoyoed to the top of the South Kaibab trail from the park boundary. I'd started at 6 am after waking about 4:00 around Williams and as I started south out of the park I decided to take off my shoes and take a nap. I woke up with 4 elk grazing around me, I love the Grand Canyon! The second day was another yoyo, about 14 miles total I believe. The final day I was joined by Maurice who helped me stage my truck so I was able to finish 37 with just under a 10 mile day including a few yoyo miles.
I think these passages above the south rim of the canyon are the nicest walking on the trail, just rolling meanders with plenty of shade interspersed with views and breezes, I can't wait to come back and support my friends on these sections.
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 Phoenix, AZ
AZT South Rim GC to Gooseberry TH, AZ 
AZT South Rim GC to Gooseberry TH, AZ
 
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Backpack157.27 Miles 18,635 AEG
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Started this trip with setting up the car shuttle. Friend of ours meet us at the Gooseberry Trailhead on Lake Mary Road on Saturday morning. From there we drove to Tusayan to begin the hike.

Day 1 – First day was really not part of the backpack and we did this as a day hike. From Tusayan we took the shuttle bus into the park Grand Canyon Visitor Center and then another bus to South Kaibab Trailhead. Then day hiked south bound on the AZT towards Tusayan. The trail has been rerouted since we hiked it 2015 to mostly paved track and none of us really liked the new track. I’m assuming it was done to take the trail closer to Mather Campground for easier camping options but the pavement makes it a tourist trail when it used to be a real dirt hiking trail through some nice ponderosa forest. Regardless we followed the new route into Tusayan and our camp for the night a hotel in Tusayan. Yep rough first night on the trail :lol:

Day 2 – We left the hotel before 6 and went across the street to get coffee :) Said goodbye to our shuttle friend and hopped on the AZT where we left off the previous day. We hiked south bound towards Grandview Tower. About 4 miles from the tower where the trail jumps on dirt road a car passed by that looked like a rental. About 20 minutes later we were taking a break at Watson Tank and they came back. French tourists looking for highway 64 and the way to Monument Valley. I just told them to return to Tusayan and stay on pavement. Eventually made it to Grandview Tower and took a break. After that we had about 6 miles to camp but stopped to filter water at a wildlife tank just before camp. Nice camp spot on the Coconino Rim with good views!

Day 3 – Started the day still on the Coconino Rim section with good views to the east. The trail eventually leaves the rim and we headed for Russell Tank. Unfortunately, the lack of water on the next section Babbitt Ranch made it necessary to carry enough water to make the next reliable source at Tub Ranch Tank about 30 miles away and we also needed enough for camp that night. I filtered about 10 liters for next section from Russell Tank but of course that made our packs really heavy. We continued south to Moqui Station and started the Babbitt Ranch section. About 5 miles into Babbitt Ranch we jumped off the current route and looked for the new section that is under construction. We found the pink flagging tape that marks the route which we followed for about a mile before finding camp for the night in pinyon pine and juniper trees.

Day 4 – We continued to follow the ribbons the next morning for another 3 miles on the still to be completed trail. It was time consuming but fun to follow the ribbons and see how the trail was being routed. The ribbon route eventually links up to partially completed section about 5.6 miles in legnth. We hiked that section which is mostly finished except for final touches. That led to the next section which is completed trail about 4.5 miles in length but the trail will not be open until all new trail is completed. We followed this section until reaching the current track where I looked for the next section. I found the pink ribbons marking the route but we were running short on water and it was really hot so we followed the current AZT to Tub Ranch Tank about 4 miles away. At Tub Ranch Tank we used an AZT provided rope and bucket [ photo ] to scoop water from the tank enough for camp that night if needed. However, up the trail at the junction of Babbitt Ranch and the next section there was a water cache full with public water. Many thanks to the volunteers who stock these water cache boxes!! We continued down trail for another 2 miles before finding a place to camp for the night.

Day 5 – Next day it was nice to be heading back up into the ponderosa pines and towards the San Francisco Peaks. Of course, we had several miles to the mountain but it was a nice hike leading up to it. Just before Kelly Tank we passed a group day hiking north bound. The last person in the group was a woman who asked us if we were hiking the whole Arizona Trail. We said only 8 days from Grand Canyon to Gooseberry trailhead. Turns out she was Senator Martha McSally. Thankfully we did not talk about politics and rather had a great conversation about the AZT. She is currently section hiking the trail and we talked about the trail and favorite sections. Shortly after that conversation we reached another water cache box full of public water. Again thanks to the volunteers who stock these caches. We stocked up on more water and headed up into the peaks. Storm clouds started to rumble and eventually we had a few hours of rain and hail. Nothing crazy but we did get wet and the temps dropped. We made camp a few miles past Alfia Tank as the rain stopped for the day.

Day 6 – In the morning our objective was to follow the AZT Urban route into Flagstaff. Before the trip I knew that part of the trail was closed but hoped maybe they reopened it. We hiked south bound across the Snow Bowl road and then to the Urban route junction. Once on the Urban route we continued to Schultz Creek trail head to find that yes the route was closed. It was clearly blocked so we made the decision to bypass the last 7 miles into Flagstaff. Fortunately, we were able to use Lyft to make the Holiday Inn our stay for the night just off the AZT. Must say it was a sweet luxury after five days on the trail.

Day 7 – All rested up we left the hotel at 645 and being only 3 blocks from the Urban AZT we were on the trail quickly. We passed under the I-40 and back into the forest south of Flagstaff. Good trail out of town so it was fast progress. Really nice trail between Walnut Canyon and start of Anderson Mesa with some new trail since we hiked it in 2015. We passed Anderson Mesa trailhead and then continued to the rim overlooking Upper Lake Mary for lunch break. After lunch we had a long slog across Anderson Mesa with a stop at Horse Lake for our main water source of the day and camp that night. From Horse Lake we hiked across Lake Mary Road and to a cool area called the Railroad Grade. It’s an old railroad that was constructed for the timber industry in the 1920’s but is also a great area to camp.

Day 8 – Last day on the trail we just needed to make Gooseberry trailhead about 20 miles. We finished up the Railroad Grade and hiked the lower slopes of Mormon Mountain above Mormon Lake. Our water source for the day was Double Springs. Really good water source and we had a short rain shower roll through while filtering water. After that we continued the last 12 miles with mostly good single track and fortunate to see a large 20 plus heard of elk cruising through the forest. We finished up before 5pm and happy to be done with a long portion of the AZT!
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a few wild flowers on the San Francisco Peaks #34 section. Lupine, Indian Paint Brush, Globe Mallow and others

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Alfa Fia Tank 26-50% full 26-50% full
water looked decent but I didn't need to filter

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completely dry

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Double Springs Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
great source of water. Clear, cold and plenty of water in the creek and spring

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plenty of clear water but there was some cow activity. Still we filtered 4 liters

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completely dry

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tank looked decent from a distance and definitely had water but we didn't need any

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completely dry

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small puddle and would only filter if desperate

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pipe was dripping water but it was good quality

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Prime Lake 26-50% full 26-50% full
water was good but difficult to reach unless you don't mind wading through the marshy edge

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Russell Tank 51-75% full 51-75% full
lots of water

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there was about 3 inches of water in the metal tank with the lid. But would only use if really needed it

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no water in the canyon

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completely dry

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Van Deren Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
water was actually a small pond. It looked like decent quality but didn't need any

dry Watson Tank Dry Dry
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Aug 10 2019
tibber
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Grand Canyon - South Rim - AZT #37, AZ 
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We left town around 7:30AM and met up at the IMAX around 10:45AM. We left Tonto Jr to pile into Shawn's truck for the supposedly short drive to the buses at the VC. The short drive was at least 30 minutes as the line getting into the Park was very long and moved slowly. And then once we boarded the bus, the driver waited for awhile as he tried to pile more passengers in so that the bus was stuffed to the gills.

We put on our gear and headed along the paved trail enjoying the views into the canyon when they were exposed. I was last at this trailhead in 2010. We didn't know we had missed the turn south until Shawn asked if we were going the right way so we had to backtrack a bit. There is NO signage indicating that obscure dirt trail is the AZT. This was the first of our "oops" we missed a turn.

So you hike to the paved road and across altho I accidentally took a small shortcut. Once across the road you are into the forest but can still hear the noise of the road. You come to the powerline road and we continued across as I saw a carsonite but this was NOT right. So we're moseying down the trail and Shawn once again asks if we're going the right way. I look at HAZel and say, we're right on the trail. Tracy looks at her app and it says we are NOT on the trail.... again. The trail has been re-routed from HAZ's official route so we had to cross-country a bit to get back to the powerline road.

You once again cross a highway and then you are on a paved path for way too many miles and you're near the road and campsites. Certainly not the AZT experience one expects. It was past lunch time due to our late start so we thot we might as well take advantage of the picnic tables along the campsites and pulled over. We watched ravens picking away at the food some others had left on their table.

Back on the paved path again until you get to cross the road again on to more paved path and in the line of the helo traffic from time to time. During this whole hike we would see only one other person and it was a bike rider. My entertainment was kicking off even the littlest rocks from the pathway (no pine cones to crush this time [ triplog ] ). The pain of walking on this pavement was not pleasurable for any of us as we were all whining. We finally got to the end of the park and took a short break on a log to let the burning feet sensation subside enough to continue on.

Once you go thru the tunnel it's all dirt. I had commented that I was surprised we didn't record any 20 minute miles on all that pavement as you feel like you're going a pretty good pace. So Shawn says, I'll try and do a 20 minute mile with you. Well by that time, the pavement had turned to dirt but I thot "what the heck" and at the 7 mile mark we gave it a whirl. Well within minutes I barely could see Shawn and then I was hearing all sorts of bird commotion so I wanted to record it. So I'm walking as fast as I can while I film the sound.

We then came to an intersection that Shawn blew by so he had to back track. Not that it mattered because once again within minutes he was almost out of my site. I then had to stop to get a hike-by picture of a flora I hadn't seen before. Finally we hit the one mile mark and HAZel said I had done 17:29 minutes. Shawn was probably about 5 minutes ahead of me including the detour so he probably did around 12 minutes. He just kept going as did I until we came to the intersection by the rock outcropping where he was sitting waiting for us.

To summarize:
toddak wrote:
The section between the SK trailhead and Tusayan is probably the least enjoyable stretch of the AZT I've done so far - highway traffic noise, helicopters overhead, several miles of pavement walking on the Greenway. Routing a new trail a couple miles to the east on a more direct line to the SK trailhead would be a big improvement, but I imagine the NPS isn't very receptive to the idea of building new trails inside the park.
My response: The AZT Section Crew just did this yesterday and we are in total agreement with you.

We walked over to the IMAX and then over to Wendy's where Shawn bot Frosty's. We dropped Ambika at the hotel where she was meeeting her family. We then went over to the Yavapai Lodge and had a louszy dinner before picking up Shawn's truck and headed over to Grandview Point tower campsite. The next morning, they rolled out about 5:30 and I wasn't too far behind except Tonto Jr no start. I quickly texted Tracy and fortunately, they weren't too far away so came back for the jump.

I didn't turn off Tonto Jr until I got home except for when I got home, I thot my garage door remote wasn't working so I went in the house and then realized the electricity was out. I went and flipped the breaker and then the neighbors came out to tell me the electricity had gone out at 3:15AM and they were waiting for it to be repaired. The workmen were at the street behind us. However, the repair time wouldn't be until 2:30. So I took Tonto Jr to Pep Boys and got a new battery, hung out at Starbucks and then picked up lunch when I got the notice, electricity was on.

And now a whirlwind weekend was done but my shins were going to be killing me; they did and they have.


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Jul 14 2019
screeslider5267
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 Tucson, AZ
Grand Canyon - South Rim - AZT #37Northwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Hiking23.05 Miles 1,220 AEG
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Completed this in a 4-day SOBO hike of #37 and #36. First day was just a little too warm, but the rest of the days were HOT.
Used sunbrellas, which were necessities on all 4 days. First night was a little cool, but the rest were very nice. Pretty much had the trail to ourselves. Glad we cached water.
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Coconino Rim - AZT #36Northwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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mazatzal
Hiking8.00 Miles 1,150 AEG
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Four of us spent 3 days clearing several deadfall, encroachers and leaners along #36, refinishing 14 signs along #36 and refinishing 2 signs along #37. The signs were originally varnished so we sanded the signs smooth before applying a wood preservative.

The varnish on south facing signs was particularly blistered and ugly so the hope is that the wood preservative will fair better. Storms rolled in the first two days and gave the forest a nice soaking.

Took a quick trip on Tuesday afternoon out to Shoshone Point. On Wednesday on the way back home went up Red Butte but a third incoming storm persuaded me to turnaround a bit short of the summit.

Fun trip with a great group.
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 Phoenix, AZ
Grand Canyon - South Rim - AZT #37Northwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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ultrazona
Mtn Biking38.00 Miles 1,700 AEG
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Loop ride to complete section.
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toddak
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 Puhoynix, AZ
Grand Canyon - South Rim - AZT #37Northwest, AZ
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toddak
Hiking23.00 Miles 1,000 AEG
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SOBO with a bike shuttle between trailheads. The trail goes through the active Reed Prescribed Fire project several miles east of Tusayan near Upper Ten X tank, but there were no closures, visible fire or smoke, just a few smoldering stumps. Didn't see any water anywhere (except at the SK trailhead where the elk were giving the water station a good tongue cleaning).

The section between the SK trailhead and Tusayan is probably the least enjoyable stretch of the AZT I've done so far - highway traffic noise, helicopters overhead, several miles of pavement walking on the Greenway. Routing a new trail a couple miles to the east on a more direct line to the SK trailhead would be a big improvement, but I imagine the NPS isn't very receptive to the idea of building new trails inside the park.
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Grand Canyon - South Rim - AZT #37Northwest, AZ
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sandyfortner
Car Camping23.05 Miles 1,220 AEG
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Broke this passage into 2 nice days. On Wednesday my sister and I did from South Kaibab to the culvert at 64. We followed the well-signed trail even though the app said that we were off trail. I think the app may have hikers following the Greenway which would take you right next to Mather CG and closer to the Village. Anyhow, the trail is well signed and as you cross the road after leaving SK, it follows an old 2 track and pretty much parallels the app. We had 5 elk bedded down on the trail so went way around them and let them enjoy their space! Easy trail and good tread. The last couple miles puts you on the new Greenway. Although the AZT home page tells hikers that this portion is under construction, I contacted the Park Service prior to heading up to the Grand Canyon and was told that this project was done and the path was open. Nice, new path takes you right into Tusayan. I'm not sure why the app gives a trail head on the curve coming down to the culvert, but anyhow, we had parked at the nice trail parking lot just off of the roundabout north of Tusayan. Thursday we did from Grandview Tower to the culvert - parked at the Ranger Station that day. We heard a couple of elk bugling but didn't see any all day. This portion is virtually flat and easy so we made good time on the 16ish miles. Met one SOBO thru-hiker along the path. He indicated that he was a little confused with following the bike paths out of Tusayan. As we approached NOBO we did see one spot that could have been marked clearer, but using the app, we could tell which way was correct. Some, not all, carsonites have the AZT sticker. Some just have the bike sticker and this was what threw him off I think. Some muddy puddles along the way - not necessarily where water is indicated. Any water that could be retrieved along this passage would need to be pre-filtered. I cached 3 gallons just south of Grandview Tower labeled for AZT hiker and I was told that there was about 9 gallons at Russel Tank.
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Very muddy and you would need to make your way through mud to access what water there is. Would definitely need to be pre-filtered

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DallinW
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 Gilbert AZ
AZT: Mormon Lake to Utah, AZ 
AZT: Mormon Lake to Utah, AZ
 
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I'm not even sure how to approach a triplog of this magnitude, so I'll try to keep it short and focus on the highlights/lowlights.

The hike took place between May 31st and June 16th. We had 2 zero days (one in Flagstaff, one in Tusayan), and one "nero" out of Tusayan. We averaged 25 - 30 miles a day, except for in the Grand Canyon. This trip started out with a few hiccups (feet, gear, fires, heat...) but after Tusayan we had the kinks worked out and I felt like a well oiled long distance hiking machine.

Hightlights

Humphrey's Summit Side Trip
We decided to include a side trip to Humphrey's Peak. It was a great way to escape the hottest part of the first weekend and let things cool down below 9000ft, even if the summit was swarming with gnats and people. :) On the way back down, I met @joebartels and @the_eagle. Very cool! Nice to have met you both!

Grand Canyon
The Grand Canyon Rim-to-Rim was AMAZING. The scenery had my jaw on the ground nearly the entire time! I was extremely nervous about doing this passage in June and thought it was nearly impossible to score walk-in permits, but the stars aligned and we had no issues grabbing permits for both campgrounds.

We did it over 3 days to beat the heat, camping at Bright Angel and Cottonwood campgrounds, moving only between the hours of 5am - 9am. Soaking in Bright Angel Creek made the heat tolerable, and it was a nice change of pace compared to the 25 - 30 mile days we were doing above the rims.

One of the rangers issuing the permits gave us some dire warnings about "130 degrees in the sun", and how "nobody has fun down there this time of year." I even asked him about soaking in the creek to ward off the heat and he made it sound like it was only mildly effective. Contrary to what he said, it probably never got above 105 in the sun and sitting in the creek was actually extremely relaxing.

We took the short side trip to Ribbon Falls and it was totally worth it. What a neat little oasis in the canyon! We saw a beaver in the creek between Bright Angel and Cottonwood campgrounds, I never expected to see that.

The climb out of the Canyon from Cottonwood to the North Rim was well graded, and we topped out in about 2 hours 45 mins.

There is definitely a lot more Grand Canyon hiking in my future come fall/winter/spring.

North Rim + Kaibab Plateau
It was so nice to get a break from the hot temperatures when we topped out on the North Rim. They didn't last for long, though. As soon as we were back down around 7000 ft it was getting warm again.

The aspen and fir lined meadows were also a nice change of scenery. Easy going, dreamy hiking. It was also cool starting the day at Cottonwood and within a few hours being in a drastically different environment.

We ran out of food just before highway 89A, so we went in to Jacob Lake for a small resupply and also had a great breakfast at the restaurant. We probably had less than 2000 calories per day from the North Rim to Jacob Lake, needless to say the hiker hunger was strong when we reached Jacob Lake.

Finishing the AZT
Damn did it feel good. :)


Lowlights

Feet Issues
On day one I had a nasty blister form on the bottom of my foot due to AZ rocks tearing up the tread on my one month old Altra shoes. When we reached Flagstaff I initially tried to remedy the problem by buying thicker insoles (SuperFeet) for my shoes and taping up my foot with climbing tape. I was apprehensive about getting new shoes because I've always had issues with breaking in new shoes, even trail runners. The tape and thicker insoles worked for about half of a day. I think the tape actually might have made matters worse. I decided the next day after leaving Flag to hitch back into town from Snowbowl Rd in order to pop the blister and let it heal with a zero day. We got a ride by the first vehicle that I thumbed!

Popping the blister and staying off of it for a day helped, but after our Humphrey Summit and a couple more days of hiking the blister was back with a vengeance by the time we reached the Babbit Ranch passage. I was very nervous about going forward from Babbit Ranch because it would mean committing to about 60 miles before any relief in Tusayan. I nearly walked out to the highway from the TH and called for pickup. But after sleeping on it, I sucked it up and continued. Eventually, after hiking on it for another 40 miles, it stopped hurting so much.

When we reached Tusayan I decided to bite the bullet and take a shuttle back to Flagstaff to get some new shoes. I bought some Brooks Cascadia 11's, swapped out the insoles with the SuperFeet I bought, and never had a single foot issue the rest of the trip. :)

Gear Issues
Sleeping pad got punctured and I lost my sunglasses the very first night. These items were replaced on the first visit to REI in Flag. Somewhere along the way, the "stay bar" in my backpack ripped through the bottom of my pack again and went missing.

Fires
The nearby fires on the rim made the miles into Flagstaff smokey. It was particularly bad on the second day when we woke up at the Horse Mesa Trailhead with thick smoke to hike through til Marshall Lake. Those were some lightheaded, oxygen deprived miles.

Heat
When I planned this trip, I expected the highs to be in the high 70s to low 80s, actual highs were in the high 80s to low 90s for the entire trip, expect for the North Rim and Kaibab Plateau South & Central passages. As expected, it reached low triple digits in the Grand Canyon. We combated the heat by taking a long 2 hour break during the hottest part of the day under a cedar or pine. If there was a good enough breeze, usually we could still hike in the heat. We were also consuming up to 2 gallons of water a day.

Final AZT Thoughts

In my opinion, the Grand Canyon takes the cake for the most scenic passage of the trail. That being said, I believe that below the Mogollon Rim the AZT is way more scenic per-mile than on top of the plateau. It's easy to keep motivated below the Rim when you're getting drowned in gorgeous wide open views in every direction, and hard to keep motivated above the Rim when all you're seeing most of the day is the next ponderosa or ceder 10 yards ahead of you. Just my opinion, though.

AZ rocks with eat up your shoes.

If I was to ever attempt a thru-hike of the trail, I would most likely start in the early fall and head south. The terminus in Utah isn't a terrible place to end, but Miller Peak and Mexico would have been a much grander ending.
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Sep 16 2015
Sredfield
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 Ahwatukee, AZ
Grand Canyon - South Rim - AZT #37Northwest, AZ
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A good long day on the South Kaibab putting up 4 more redwood trail signs to replace the tired soldiers that have stood watch for 20+ years. Thanks to Ian and Emily and their 4-legged helpers, and to Gary H who made the signs. See photos.
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Apr 30 2015
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 Tucson, Arizona
AZT #37 Tusayan to FR 814, AZ 
AZT #37 Tusayan to FR 814, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 30 2015
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Hiking6.00 Miles 315 AEG
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This hike is what I call a mop up hike. I did the section from Tusayan to the rim and the section from Grandview to FR 814 and it left this little piece in the middle which I still had to do. Fairly easy walk up Coconino Wash and after about 2 miles the trail leaves the wash on a gradual climb to Forest Service Road 814. The hardest point of this hike if I had to pick one was the cross Country jaunt from FR302 to Coconino Wash and the Arizona Trail.
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 Tucson, Arizona
AZT #37 Grandview Lookout to FR 814, AZ 
AZT #37 Grandview Lookout to FR 814, AZ
 
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Hiking20.20 Miles 1,537 AEG
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Round trip hike from Grandview Lookout to Forest Service Road 418. Trail is well maintained and easy to follow. There is a 700 foot elevation change over the 10 miles so it is barely noticeable. The trail switches from single track to two track off and on and is through Ponderosa Pine forests. After doing the Coconino rim trail this one seems a little drab.
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AZT #37 Tusayan to South Rim, AZ 
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Hiking20.40 Miles 1,321 AEG
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Trail starting in Tusayan to South Rim and then returning to Tusayaz and hiking south into Coconino Wash before returning to start point. Gradual 600 foot climb over 8 miles to the South Rim and the Kaibab Trail. Kind of strange doing this hike because I saw more people along the trail than I have along almost all of the rest of the Arizona Trail. Still a great hike through Ponderosa Pine forests. On the return to Tusayan I still had some time and energy left so I hikes south along the Arizona Trail up Coconino Wash til I decided I had enough for the day and returned to Tusayan.
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