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Sep 07 2021
clyde_joelle
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 Sierra Vista
Grand Canyon - Inner Gorge - AZT #38Northwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Sep 07 2021
clyde_joelle
Hiking25.50 Miles 6,688 AEG
Hiking25.50 Miles4 Days         
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Hiked North Rim to South Rim from noon of 9/3/21 to morning of 9/7/21 for a total of 25.55 miles, 18.5 hours of actual hiking time and an elevation loss of 5,740 feet and ascent of 4,434 feet total. Route was from North Kaibab trail T/H. to Cottonwood CG (overnight) to Phantom Ranch (2 nights). Then up Bright Angel Trail to Indian Garden CG and then to S. Rim.
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May 16 2021
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Grand Canyon Corridor LoopNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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survivordude
Hiking19.50 Miles 4,975 AEG
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Solo dolo down SK, 2.5 hours to the river. Swim at the beach for an hour. The canyon runner population has exploded. I love the river trail, its so easy going. Hot slog up to IG for about an hour break/siesta. Lots of wildlife. About 3 hours up to the top. Good to see all the youth out enjoying the outdoors. Quads were toast at the Coconino. Definitely slower than my last time up BA, but I did go to the river this time and it was a longer hike, so there's that. I enjoyed taking my time with this one.
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May 15 2021
corwinwilkins
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 Phoenix, AZ
Grand Canyon - Inner Gorge - AZT #38Northwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar May 15 2021
corwinwilkins
Hiking20.50 Miles 6,688 AEG
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Since I couldn't seem to scare up a shuttle for this one I decided to yo-yo the canyon instead. S Kaibab to N Kaibab on Saturday and back through Bright Angel on Sunday. I kind of screwed up on the first 3 miles of S Kaibab; in wanting to get away from the crowds I went high gear down and by mile 3 my right knee informe4d me I'd better back off or we're ending this sooner than expected. That knee plagued me the rest of the trip. Ran across 2 cases of hyperthermia down in the canyon, and helped both of them get cooled off and self-rescue. This ate into my hiking time a lot as well but why have the training and not use it? Made it up to the North Rim around 930 that night and crashed at the hiker trash campsite. Back on trail 7am next day and didn't get out of north rim until 0320 the following day. Also helped another hyperthermia victim that day. Seriously there are a ton of people that have no reason being down there. I can't see ever doing the Canyon again; I mean, I hate Hate HATE so many of the people that go through there. Just a boatload of entitled, narcissistic children who fail to appreciate and respect the land. Between Bluetooth speakers blaring shit music, complete disregard of right of ways and trail etiquette, to a freezer sized ziplock of trash I picked up each day. I'll venture far from the tourist from now on, thank you.
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Rim to RimNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 24 2020
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Hiking44.50 Miles 11,000 AEG
Hiking44.50 Miles   49 Hrs   56 Mns   1.19 mph
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After previously backpacking every mile of trails/routes on the South Rim of the Grand Canyon, I decided it was time to complete Rim to Rim! :y: I got a permit for my last choice weekend, October 24-26, and backpacked across the North Kaibab/Bright Angel route.

Along for the trip were my parents, two siblings, and my brother's girlfriend (a total of six people). For some strange reason, NPS gave us a permit for 7 people, stating in an email that we had miscalculated the total fee for the permit, and they would be charging us for 7 people. Even after calling to make sure they knew we only had 6 people, they refused to update the permit or give a refund for the 7th person that didn't go along on the trip! Oh well...I guess it all worked out fine because we got to camp at the nice group sites. :lol:

We found a friend on Facebook (lives in Page) who was willing to be our shuttle driver from South to North since the normal shuttles aren't running this year. After being dropped off, and after enjoying our sandwiches on the rim before the hike, we realized we forgot our pot and fuel at home! :o Apparently, somewhere along the way, there was a miscommunication in who was taking what. :shaggy: Sure enough, when we got home, there was our 4-liter pot and 16 oz. of fuel, sitting right next to the fish bowl! ](*,) Well, after talking through the options, we decided that since we were on corridor trails, we would be able to find sufficient kind hikers from whom we could buy/bribe/borrow some fuel. A kind man on the rim overheard our plight and gave us his stainless steel doggy bowl to use as a makeshift pot. It only held 2.5 cups, but we were grateful nonetheless. To finish out this story, at Cottonwood campground, I finally found someone who had some extra fuel, so I borrowed their canister for our dinner (they refused to accept payment). Our breakfast was cold-soaked oatmeal, which rehydrated quite well overnight. On the trail the next day, we met some backpackers who were from Chicago and had some extra fuel. They couldn't take it with them on the plane anyway, so they were happy to give it to us. We're thankful for the kindness of our fellow backpackers and hope we have a chance to help someone out similarly some day. :)

The North Kaibab trail itself is a very nice trail, quite smooth and gradual. The 5,000+ feet of descent really seems to go by quite quickly, and in no time, we were at Cottonwood campground! We enjoyed the amazing stargazing both in the evening, and early the next morning before the sun rose. In addition to identifying numerous stars and constellations, we also spotted Saturn and Jupiter. I tried my hand at some night sky photography, and was quite pleased with the results (I'm writing this at work while I wait for a test to run...will probably have a photoset uploaded sometime late this evening or tomorrow afternoon for you all to enjoy). The next day was a long day from Cottonwood to Indian Gardens, and especially being in a group of six, we move pretty slowly (due to the nature of group dynamics, not any particular person). We woke up at 4:45, and got out of shortly after first light. About half-way from Cottonwood to Phantom Ranch, we came across a group of 7 bighorn sheep drinking water from Bright Angel Creek. Apparently, they decided to move on, and we watched in amazement as they climbed over 200 ft high overhead on very steep (almost vertical) terrain. Within minutes, they had ascended easily 200 ft. but we continued watching for another half hour or so, as they were so interesting to watch. Eventually they got beyond the ridgeline and we couldn't see them any longer. It was definitely a once-in-a-lifetime experience!

We spent a bit of time at the beach along the Colorado River before climbing up the Bright Angel trail. The highlight there was watching 2 kayaks, 3 rafts, and a dory boat run the small rapids there (the dory looked like a replica of the Bass boat at Bass beach in the Western Grand Canyon).

That night, at Indian Gardens, the temperatures dropped substantially and the wind was very strong. Forecasts posted at Phantom Ranch indicated gusts around 25 mph, and I felt like at Indian Gardens, they were even stronger. We secured our tents with several guy lines to large rocks, and they did fine. The rangers also warned us of a potential 1/2 inch snow at Indian Gardens and up to 5 inches on the South Rim. Thankfully, the weathermen were wrong ( :app: ), and we got no precipitation to speak of (maybe a grand total of 10 or 20 rain drops on the tent :lol: ). As usually happens when a cold front moves in, the next day was gorgeous, with blue sky and good visibility, albeit just a little cold. When we left camp, it was right around 40, and the temperature slowly dropped all day, until it was just below freezing for the last couple miles of hiking. Driving home through Flagstaff, the temps dropped as low as 24.

Overall, this was a great trip. Everything worked out OK, even though we forgot our pot and fuel (we still had the stove and utensils, so it could have been much worse!). The North Kaibab trail in particular was extremely busy. Just to give you an idea, we talked to a ranger at Indian Gardens who said that the Grand Canyon's previous record for rim-to-rim day-hikers was 1200 in one day. She said they exceeded 2000 rim-to-rim day-hikers on October 24th this year. It felt like someone was going past about every minute in one direction or the other. It was crazy! I now remember why I've done so much wilderness hiking in the Grand Canyon in the past...the crowds simply aren't there. I'm thinking back to when we did South Bass to Boucher, and saw only 1 person in 7 days (except for a few people on the top of the Hermit trail going out). Or the Royal Arch Route where we saw no one for 6 days. I've done Rim to Rim now, just to say that I've done it, but I can assure you my next Rim to Rim will be something like Nankoweep to Tanner or North Bass to South Bass. That'll be far more enjoyable.
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Some aspen, cottonwood, and oak (though most aspen were past their peak).

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Just about the same flow as March 2018 when I saw it last.

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Heavy flow over the falls from Roaring Springs

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Oct 10 2020
desertadapted
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 Phoenix, AZ
Kaibab Plateau Central - AZT #41Northwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Backpack avatar Oct 10 2020
desertadapted
Backpack175.00 Miles
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I'm continuing my project of trying to section hike the AZT. Much of Passages 42 and 43 (From UT to Jacob Lake) are closed due to fire activity, so I'm leaving those final two passages for the spring/summer of 2021. This report will be succinct.

Day 1. Light day with a late start and early camp. There is substantial historical fire damage (I'm not educated enough to know how much of the damage was from clear cutting). I was just glad to be on the trail.

Day 2. Made a big push to complete Passage #41 and #40, camping about 1/2 mile from the park boundary. It was one of my top ten favorite days hiking. After leaving behind burn/clear cut, I got to enjoy fall color, lovely forest, meadows, etc. Although I may have just hit it at the right time of year, Passage #40 is easily one my of favorite AZT Passages.

Day 3. Woke up to a frozen water bottle and proceeded into Passage #39 (GCNP North Rim). After kicking around the North Rim for a bit, I hiked down to Cottonwood Campground. Hiking Rim to Rim in the past, I'd never thought much of the campground. How wrong I was! Tastefully located with excellent spacing between sites, I'm looking forward to going back.

Day 4. Had an alpine start to avoid too warm a hike up the South Kaibab trail, given that it's so sun exposed beginning at the Tonto. I was sad to miss as much of the Canyon interior as I did, but I'd gotten my fill a few weeks before, and wanted to make sure I was safe. After a successful resupply at the very friendly post office, I walked into Tusayan for a late lunch. The trail to Tusayan is on a bike path and is no fun at all. After some beer and vittles, I hiked out of Tusayan a few miles before collapsing.

Day 5. AZT #36 is just too pretty. I hadn't registered how many GC views it provides. The Grandview Tower was well worth the stop (along with cached water). I tuckered out near Moqui Stage Station, wanting to get some rest before a big push across Babbitt Ranch.

Day 6. AZT #35 was a study in contrasts. The ATA appears to have completed some amazing re-routes that have eliminated historical road walks (only a few miles of road remain). They did a great job - the trail is very well done. But Passage 35 is still exposed and dry as all get out. I spent most of it hiding under my umbrella and mumbling. Were it not for Tub Ranch, where there is a critical water source, I think I'd have cried. I also fell in love with the local dog. After a brief road walk out to the Coconino NF boundary, I crashed, glad the day was over. Beautiful trail, but that's tough country to love.

Day 7. AZT #34 is famous, and rightly so. The San Francisco Peaks are a real treat. I could hike that Passage over and over. If you were in the area and saw some strange dude hugging a pine tree, it wasn't me. I swear. I crashed out a few miles past Alfa Fia tank (is a tank really a tank without cow dung all over?). Alfa Fia itself was crowded with hikers out to see the sunset. The energy was great.

Day 8. I've got lots of love for the ATA and there are major limits on where trail can be sited, but I am not a fan of the Flagstaff urban bypass route. The first stretch you're in significant competition with mountain bikers who really really really want you to get out of the way. The second stretch, there's a fair bit of uphill, which was a bit of a bummer given that all I had on my mind was a shower, pizza and beer. But I finally got my whiney self to a motel, where I accomplished all three. To glorious excess.

As a parting note, the trip would not have been nearly as fun were it not for the dedicated ATA volunteers who provided water caches at critical points along the trail. Manna from heaven. Interestingly, during my week on trail, I only encountered three NOBO and no SOBO backpackers (other than within the GC), so the SOBO flow was not substantial enough for me to overtake/be overtaken by anyone else. Not sure if that's par for the course or whether COVID and fires have done their number on trail volumes.

I'm looking forward to Passages 42 and 43 next year and really hope that in the next ~6-7 years I'm able to find time to do the whole trail as a thru-hike. Thank you ATA!
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Oct 07 2019
Hippy
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 Grand Canyon
Rim to RimNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Backpack avatar Oct 07 2019
Hippy
Backpack24.00 Miles
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If you ever wondered what I actually have been doing all these years up at Grand Canyon...

I am a hiking guide. I lead day trips on the rim and also co-lead backpacking trips below the rim.

This October I snagged a rim to rim with fellow a Instructor. She and I had an absolute wonderful group of veteran hikers and 2 who had never backpacked before. One had never seen Grand Canyon until this trip!

We spent Oct 6th camped in the North rim campground (brr!)
Then the 7th we headed down North Kaibab to Cottonwood Campground, this 7miles is usually enough of a first day for first timers!
The 8th we hike down to Phantom with a stop at Ribbon Falls, here yours truly took a nap on the trail while guarding the packs from squirrels and Ravens. It's a tough job.

Camped at Phantom in the big group site. Stayed here TWO nights!

Last night was spent at Havasupai Garden (Indian Garden) with sunset at Plateau Point.

I usually get to help lead this trip once or twice a year. It is by far the most luxurious way to hike a rim to rim.
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Aug 23 2019
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 Tempe, AZ
Grand Canyon - Inner Gorge - AZT #38Northwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Aug 23 2019
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Hiking20.50 Miles 6,688 AEG
Hiking20.50 Miles2 Days   13 Hrs   48 Mns   
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Day 1: First in line for the hikers' express shuttle at the Bright Angel Lodge by 3:45 am! One other person ended up showing at that stop. :lol: Different experience from the past (maybe because it's August). On SK trail by 4:40 am. Sunrise, around an hour later, was indescribable. Got to Phantom Ranch around 9 am and took a quick snack break. First time up North Kaibab and we were immediately blown away with the extreme beauty when we entered "the box". It was warm but actually a pretty perfect temperature at that time. We took another break at one of the creek crossings to filter cold creek water and cool down. Met the 2nd park ranger of the day who was giving hikers heat-hiking advice. Those rangers must deal with a lot. :-k We continued on and hit the Ribbon Falls creek trail sign around 11:30 am. It was getting pretty darn hot at that point and Ribbon Falls was the PERFECT oasis to cool down at. The hike to the falls took us about a half-hour. The distance is super short but there are many trails and some are more reasonable than others to follow. Ribbon Falls is out of this world beautiful! We had the place completely to ourselves for two hours while we played in the little cave and relaxed behind the falls. With our water bladders filled and our body temps cooled, we decided to head out and break at each of the (approximately) mile and a half spaced campgrounds ahead. There were a couple other waterfalls we stopped at to make use of the cold water and one with a great freezing cold pool close to the Manzanita Ranger Station. Waived hello to Roaring Springs falls around 5 pm and kept plugging away up the ever increasing grade. From here the side canyon we were heading up, paralleling the rock outcropping the north rim lodge sits on, kept getting prettier and prettier. As the sun went down the colors reflected in the canyon seemed to continuously change. The final few miles of N Kaibab are RELENTLESS! :sweat: Holy moly! Darkness was lovely and I had little bat friends flitting around to keep me company as the vegetation turned to forest forest. I made it to the top around 8:30 pm thinking my two friends were close behind. It was freeeeezing at the top and I immediately put on every piece of clothing I had. My friends arrived about a half hour later and one was feeling pretty bad & ended up throwing up. Unfortunately she had stopped consuming electrolytes once the sun went behind the canyon walls and didn't think about how much she was still sweating. I convinced her to eat some of my saltstick chewables and we made it to the lodge. :y:

Day 2: Woke up in our adorable little cabin feeling surprisingly good! We spent the day leisurely walking around the north rim and of course hitting up the lodge for food food and more food. Loved all the delicious vegan options offered for all three meals at the lodge! :DANCE: Our one friend who experienced heat exhaustion the previous evening ended up securing a spot on the shuttle for the return trip the next day instead of hiking back with us. We were grateful she had that option at the last minute and happy she was feeling better.

Day 3: We got to the N Kaibab TH at 4 am and started our decent. It was cool but more pleasant than the evening of our arrival. We got to the bridge around 5:30 am and light was starting to really expose the canyon colors. Stopped briefly to appreciate the colors in the caves area but no breaks this time around. I'm not going to lie...my calves were tight and my knees were screaming pretty loudly during the entire decent. Up is definitely my preference! We entered "the box" around 10 am (an hour later than our way in) and felt the heavy humid air sucking the energy out of me fo sho. Got to Phantom Ranch around 11:30 am and bought some cups of ice to add to our bladders and took our first break. Stayed for about a half hour and headed out with the intention of stopping at each resthouse area to cool down. Next stop was the beautiful little beach near the Colorado River Resthouse. We met a large family who hiked down just for the day to cook out & hang. They had multiple grills, leftover onions, potatoes, etc. They had packed it in and they were packing it all out (as we all should but unfortunately people don't always). Impressive! Now for the final stretch. We stopped at Indian Gardens around 3 pm and filtered cold water for the last time and cooled down. Heading up Bright Angel...I will never get over that view with the light streaming in and illuminating the angel. No words. The Bright Angel switchbacks feel like cake compared to the North Kaibab switchbacks. Still, our bodies were pretty exhausted at this point and we were moving pretty slowly. It's fun encountering tourists who have only hiked down a mile and a half and don't seem to understand they are blocking the entire trail for exhausted hikers who can't deal with navigating them right now. :lol: My friend made it to the top just before me and was treated to the sight of two mountain goats standing on a rock with a ray of light shinning on them! I saw the picture but missed the goats. Still, I was extremely happy for her to have had such a special treat!
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Jul 04 2019
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 Phoenix, AZ
AZT Utah to South Rim Grand Canyon, AZ 
AZT Utah to South Rim Grand Canyon, AZ
 
Backpack avatar Jul 04 2019
BiFrost
Backpack105.89 Miles 18,762 AEG
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On July 4th, 2015 we finished section hiking the AZT northbound to Stateline Campground on the Utah Border. Fast forward to 2019 and we decided to hike the AZT southbound and start from the same Stateline Campground on same July 4th weekend. However, this time our plan was to do multi-day backpacks instead of day hikes to complete the trail.

We had a shuttle pick us up at South Rim of Grand Canyon visitor center and drive us around to Stateline Campground where we camped July 3rd. Next morning on the 4th we started about 545am up the trail. Our goal, 5 days to make the South Rim by Monday afternoon.

Day 1 - Good start in the morning as the trail climbs out of House Rock Valley and up onto the Kaibab Plateau. We ran into 2 hikers in the first 2hours but then nobody else rest of day. Up on the plateau it’s lots of Juniper, Pinyon Pine, Sage brush and gates. Several AZT gates have been new additions since our 2015 hike. We passed Joes and Government Reservoir before the trail finally climbs into the Ponderosa Pine. With a few side trips in search of water (Umbrella Tank and Ponderosa Trick Tank were good) we covered about 23 miles first day and camped near FR 249.

Day 2 – Now in the pines the trail gradually climbs higher and the scenery gets better with the addition of aspens and Douglas fir. We only had 5 miles to reach Hwy 89A crossing. We ran into a retired couple who was on the last part of their AZT trip northbound and interesting to talk with them for a bit. Moving on we headed up to Buffalo Tank where I found decent water in the metal tank (not the cow tank). Continuing the trail heads above 8,000 feet so it was nice until we hiked into the burn section. There is an 8 mile long burn area but we did find good water at a wildlife cement trough before finding camp in a cluster of Ponderosa. 19.5 miles

Day 3 – We finished crossing the burn area and passed Crane Lake (water not very accessible but we didn’t need any). We continued onto Little Pleasant Valley which did have water but again we didn’t need any. Really enjoyed the section from Crane Lake to Dog Lake and East Rim area. Lots of meadows and thick forest crossings. Near Dog Lake there is a wildlife cement trough which had great water. Filtered four liters before hiking to East Rim to take in some views of Saddle Mountain Wilderness and Marble Canyon in the distance. We continued on to Crystal Spring which also had excellent ice cold water. Filtered another 5 liters before hiking another 2.5 miles to our nights camp. We found a nice spot in the aspens and mixed pines. 23.8 miles

Day 4 – Only objective was to make the North Rim Lodge where we had a reservation. Shower, cold beer, and something other than trail food was a good motivator. We only had to cover about 17.5 miles our shortest day yet. Being motivated we made the lodge by 145 and fortunately they let us check in early. After getting cleaned up we headed over to the bar for some beverages and grabbed something from the deli. Great way to spend the afternoon and evening before crashing for the night!

Day 5 – We arranged for the 4am shuttle back to the North Kaibab Trailhead. The shuttle was quick so we started shortly after 4am with headlamps for the first 45 minutes. North Kaibab trail is still one of my favorites despite lots of people. From the Supai Tunnel down there are no mules allowed so the trail below that is always great. Was able to turn off the headlamp just below the tunnel as we descended to Supai Bridge. Favorite part is the switchbacks through the Red Wall and down to the Pumphouse where we took the first break and got some water. We encountered maybe 10 people on the way there which wasn’t too bad. After the break we headed for Cottonwood Camp but continued on with our next stop at Phantom with the exception of a short break in The Box which always a nice section even as things started to get warm.

Eventually we made it to Phantom and stopped for an ice cold lemonade and some salty potato chips at the cantina. Took a fairly long break to get ready for the hot hike out. Once we were all hydrated and ready to go we pressed on across Black Bridge and started the long hot hike up South Kaibab. The bottom part felt like an oven especially since it was almost noon. We stopped in the shady spots for a breather when we could and there is a good spot just below Tip Off that is there probably all day. After Tip Off we continued up through the Red Wall and found another nice shady spot just below Skeleton Point where we took a break. Once past Skeleton it was noticeably cooler and we were able to keep going to the rim. We hit the rim just before 4pm and happy to be done with about the first 105 miles of AZT sections 43 to 38.

We took the shuttle over to the visitors center to a waiting vehicle and then much earned Mexican food at Plaza Bonita in Tusayan!

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May 18 2019
survivordude
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 The Basin
Grand Canyon Corridor LoopNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Hiking19.44 Miles 4,973 AEG
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Grand Canyon - Inner Gorge - AZT #38Northwest, AZ
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After trying to get advance permits for the past year with no luck, we decided to go for a walk in permit to get this passage done. It worked out great, and we got in just two days after we started the process. We decided to take our time and just do 7 miles each day and lay low during the heat of the day. So we started down South Kaibab before 6am and made it down to Bright Angel Campground in time for lunch. Of course we had to stop along the way to take in the amazing views. It was very gusty on the way down, so we stayed away from the edges! :scared: It was maybe in the upper 40's at the top of the south rim, and in the low 90's down below. So to beat the heat we headed to the cantina to nurse a lemon-aide for a few hours and stay cool. Oh, and a word of warning about those squirrels in the campground - I had my pack sitting on the bench right next me while I took out my food bag, and a squirrel managed to get into my hip pouch and steal my snack (macadamia nuts and dried cranberries!) and my salt tabs (but they left those laying on the ground) in a matter of seconds. And I later found a hole in my camelback near the top (thankfully) and some bite marks on the compactor bag it was in. Lesson learned.

After a warm night camped right along the creek, we packed up for an early hike on to Cottonwood Campgound. It was a lovely hike along the creek, and again we beat the heat and rested in the shade near the camp. I was amazed at how green it was along the way. Lots of deer too. Unfortunately the bridge to Ribbon Falls was out so we did not go that way, but did see it from the trail.

Day three we hiked up to the north rim. We got up there by 11:30 and decided to go up toward the entrance and hike back to the rim to get part of the next passage done. A nice couple from Canada that we had met along the way gave us a ride. We told them they are what is known as trail angels and they were so happy to learn that. Really sweet people. Anyway, we did come across some snow piles, but not much at all, and the trail was not too muddy either. BUT, there were lots of downed trees along the way, so we opted to walk the dirt road that went along side the trail for a little bit. It was getting very windy and cold by the time we got back to the rim, and the walk to the campground was cold. We had heard there may be some rooms open at the lodge since they had just opened (earlier than expected), so we walked over there with high hopes. They DID have rooms, but said they are not going to fill them because they were short staffed (I get that, but really? I was a paying customer and begged them not to send us out in what was now a blowing snow!). Long story short, we just camped out downstairs in the lounge, which they said was fine (even if not the best move from a customer service standpoint). We had the place to ourselves at least, but did not get much sleep. No worries, we just had to catch the trans-canyon shuttle back to the south rim the next day to get our cars and drive home.

All in all an epic journey through the canyon. Just an amazing place, and our favorite passage for sure.
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Grand Canyon - Inner Gorge - AZT #38Northwest, AZ
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Did this 10/21/16 - 10/23/16. There are no words to describe how captivating this hike was. Did South Kaibab through North Kaibab to the North Rim with Kitty Moran. We stayed at Bright Angel Campground and at Cottonwood Campground. I had to return the year after, not to do the AZT, just to show my husband.
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From Friday, October 21, to Sunday, October 23, my hiking friend Lova and I did the "Rim to Rim" at the Grand Canyon.

DAY ONE:
We started at South Kaibab Trail around 6:30am on Friday, hiking downhill to Bright Angel Campground. We stopped at each of the four designated rest areas to remove our packs, enjoy a snack, take some photos, and use the restrooms (if available). The stops were "Ooh Ahh Point," "Cedar Ridge," "Skeleton Point," and "Tip Off." Saw lots of other hikers up and down the trails, including "rim runners." The trail terrain varies; some areas are nice and smooth, others have some rock, and there are places with wooden logs placed across the trail that require a step down. Some neat areas with switchbacks too, especially after Skeleton Point. It's highly recommended that trekking poles be used on this hike. After we crossed the bridge over the Colorado River, we found a campsite at Bright Angel Campground around 1:30pm,set up our tents, hanged our packs, and checked out Phantom Ranch. Bright Angel Creek runs alongside the campground, but there are spigots with water in between the campsites. Bathroom facilities with flushing toilets are available. There is a phone to make calls, but I had difficulty making long distance calls, it only went to an operator who is able to process local calls.

NOTE - There are no water sources along this trail and very little shade, so prepare accordingly and hike smart. Composite bathrooms are available at Cedar Ridge and Tip Off.

DAY TWO:
We hit the trail at 8:00am, heading north through "The Box." The trail is spectacular, following alongside the Bright Angel Creek and being surrounded by the rocky areas of the Grand Canyon, featuring layers of rock in a wide variety of colors. We took our time, hiking along and taking lots of photos. We even took a detour to check out Ribbon Falls which featured an amazing waterfall. We took a nice break here, removing our socks and shoes and soaking our feet in the cold water. We made it to Cottonwood Camp around 3:00pm and found a nice campsite. Most of the campsites are not shaded, but on the plus side it allows you to see the night sky with the stars and Milky Way, which is crystal clear without any artificial light getting in the way.

DAY THREE:
We packed up our tents and most of our gear before breakfast so that we could hit the trail at sunrise. Our final destination was North Kaibab Trailhead at the North Rim and we had quite a climb ahead of us and knew it would take a good portion of the day. We hit the trail around 7:45am and made numerous short stops to rest our legs and catch our breath. Manzanita rest area has bathrooms, a Ranger Station, and still had the water turned on (which is scheduled to be shut off by mid-November for the winter season). The Creek still flows along this site as well, though once you hit the trail again and head north, it begins to climb back up the Canyon and veer away from the Creek. Signs at Manzanita advised that water at Supai Tunnel was turned off, which means no more sources for water until we reached the Trailhead. We did stop at Supai Tunnel to remove our packs, have a snack and use the restroom, and had a friendly squirrel hoping for some free food handouts. We finally climbed to the top of North Kaibab Trail and reached the Trailhead around 2:30pm...legs feeling like Jell-O, feet a tad sore, but super stoked that we successfully finished the hike and conquered the Canyon!

I am planning to do more "Rim to Rim" hikes in the future, including one with my boyfriend sometime in the Fall of next year. October is a GREAT month for these types of hikes. The daytime temps are in the 80s, night temps are in the 50s, so the weather is perfect. Clear skies at night. My next Rim to Rim adventure will be SOBO, so I can experience North Kaibab downhill, stay a night at Indian Garden Campground, and hike up Bright Angel Trail.

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AZT: Mormon Lake to Utah, AZ 
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I'm not even sure how to approach a triplog of this magnitude, so I'll try to keep it short and focus on the highlights/lowlights.

The hike took place between May 31st and June 16th. We had 2 zero days (one in Flagstaff, one in Tusayan), and one "nero" out of Tusayan. We averaged 25 - 30 miles a day, except for in the Grand Canyon. This trip started out with a few hiccups (feet, gear, fires, heat...) but after Tusayan we had the kinks worked out and I felt like a well oiled long distance hiking machine.

Hightlights

Humphrey's Summit Side Trip
We decided to include a side trip to Humphrey's Peak. It was a great way to escape the hottest part of the first weekend and let things cool down below 9000ft, even if the summit was swarming with gnats and people. :) On the way back down, I met @joebartels and @the_eagle. Very cool! Nice to have met you both!

Grand Canyon
The Grand Canyon Rim-to-Rim was AMAZING. The scenery had my jaw on the ground nearly the entire time! I was extremely nervous about doing this passage in June and thought it was nearly impossible to score walk-in permits, but the stars aligned and we had no issues grabbing permits for both campgrounds.

We did it over 3 days to beat the heat, camping at Bright Angel and Cottonwood campgrounds, moving only between the hours of 5am - 9am. Soaking in Bright Angel Creek made the heat tolerable, and it was a nice change of pace compared to the 25 - 30 mile days we were doing above the rims.

One of the rangers issuing the permits gave us some dire warnings about "130 degrees in the sun", and how "nobody has fun down there this time of year." I even asked him about soaking in the creek to ward off the heat and he made it sound like it was only mildly effective. Contrary to what he said, it probably never got above 105 in the sun and sitting in the creek was actually extremely relaxing.

We took the short side trip to Ribbon Falls and it was totally worth it. What a neat little oasis in the canyon! We saw a beaver in the creek between Bright Angel and Cottonwood campgrounds, I never expected to see that.

The climb out of the Canyon from Cottonwood to the North Rim was well graded, and we topped out in about 2 hours 45 mins.

There is definitely a lot more Grand Canyon hiking in my future come fall/winter/spring.

North Rim + Kaibab Plateau
It was so nice to get a break from the hot temperatures when we topped out on the North Rim. They didn't last for long, though. As soon as we were back down around 7000 ft it was getting warm again.

The aspen and fir lined meadows were also a nice change of scenery. Easy going, dreamy hiking. It was also cool starting the day at Cottonwood and within a few hours being in a drastically different environment.

We ran out of food just before highway 89A, so we went in to Jacob Lake for a small resupply and also had a great breakfast at the restaurant. We probably had less than 2000 calories per day from the North Rim to Jacob Lake, needless to say the hiker hunger was strong when we reached Jacob Lake.

Finishing the AZT
Damn did it feel good. :)


Lowlights

Feet Issues
On day one I had a nasty blister form on the bottom of my foot due to AZ rocks tearing up the tread on my one month old Altra shoes. When we reached Flagstaff I initially tried to remedy the problem by buying thicker insoles (SuperFeet) for my shoes and taping up my foot with climbing tape. I was apprehensive about getting new shoes because I've always had issues with breaking in new shoes, even trail runners. The tape and thicker insoles worked for about half of a day. I think the tape actually might have made matters worse. I decided the next day after leaving Flag to hitch back into town from Snowbowl Rd in order to pop the blister and let it heal with a zero day. We got a ride by the first vehicle that I thumbed!

Popping the blister and staying off of it for a day helped, but after our Humphrey Summit and a couple more days of hiking the blister was back with a vengeance by the time we reached the Babbit Ranch passage. I was very nervous about going forward from Babbit Ranch because it would mean committing to about 60 miles before any relief in Tusayan. I nearly walked out to the highway from the TH and called for pickup. But after sleeping on it, I sucked it up and continued. Eventually, after hiking on it for another 40 miles, it stopped hurting so much.

When we reached Tusayan I decided to bite the bullet and take a shuttle back to Flagstaff to get some new shoes. I bought some Brooks Cascadia 11's, swapped out the insoles with the SuperFeet I bought, and never had a single foot issue the rest of the trip. :)

Gear Issues
Sleeping pad got punctured and I lost my sunglasses the very first night. These items were replaced on the first visit to REI in Flag. Somewhere along the way, the "stay bar" in my backpack ripped through the bottom of my pack again and went missing.

Fires
The nearby fires on the rim made the miles into Flagstaff smokey. It was particularly bad on the second day when we woke up at the Horse Mesa Trailhead with thick smoke to hike through til Marshall Lake. Those were some lightheaded, oxygen deprived miles.

Heat
When I planned this trip, I expected the highs to be in the high 70s to low 80s, actual highs were in the high 80s to low 90s for the entire trip, expect for the North Rim and Kaibab Plateau South & Central passages. As expected, it reached low triple digits in the Grand Canyon. We combated the heat by taking a long 2 hour break during the hottest part of the day under a cedar or pine. If there was a good enough breeze, usually we could still hike in the heat. We were also consuming up to 2 gallons of water a day.

Final AZT Thoughts

In my opinion, the Grand Canyon takes the cake for the most scenic passage of the trail. That being said, I believe that below the Mogollon Rim the AZT is way more scenic per-mile than on top of the plateau. It's easy to keep motivated below the Rim when you're getting drowned in gorgeous wide open views in every direction, and hard to keep motivated above the Rim when all you're seeing most of the day is the next ponderosa or ceder 10 yards ahead of you. Just my opinion, though.

AZ rocks with eat up your shoes.

If I was to ever attempt a thru-hike of the trail, I would most likely start in the early fall and head south. The terminus in Utah isn't a terrible place to end, but Miller Peak and Mexico would have been a much grander ending.
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Sep 05 2015
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We were looking for a good AEG day hike and Rim to Rim seemed like a decent option. But we needed a ride back to South Rim so decided to leave early or late depending on perspective. Parked at South Rim Visitor Center about 9pm and hiked over to South Kaibab TH. It was interesting to see the TH with no people but given the time not a surprise. We headed down the SK in the dark which was uneventful except for gusty winds from nearby thunderstorms. Fortunately we only got the wind and no rain. By the time we reached Black bridge the winds had all dissipated. We stopped at the bathroom at Bright Angel Creek and were greeted by ringtail cats playing in the trees. By this time it was about 1am and we took a break and filled up on water at Phantom. Nice break with no one around again except for one of the workers who passed by heading for the cantina kitchen. We wondered whether he was starting breakfast prep or getting a midnight snack.

Up the North Kaibab Trail was next and the first 3 or 4 miles through the Box is easy walking. This part and Ribbon Falls would have been nice to see in daylight but having already seen both we kept moving. Also we didn't see anyone else on the trial at this point until we were about 1 mile from Ribbon Falls and passed 3 guys doing the exact same trip but in the opposite direction. We reached Cottonwood Camp about 430 and people were already up and moving. Passing through continued on to Manzanita Rest Stop at the pump house where we had another longer break and filled up on water. By this time it was starting to get light as we prepared for the major potion of AEG. Before leaving 3 backpackers from Cottonwood passed by on their way up. With daylight we continued up passed Roaring Springs and Supai Bridge which is probably the best part of the trail. Took another break at Supai Bridge and by this time the south bound hikers were a steady stream. As we got closer to the top we probably passed some 20 or 30 hikers total and 3 mule trains above Supai Tunnel. Finally reached the top much earlier than expected but happy to be done. From there followed the rim Bridal Path Trail over to the lodge with a stop by the showers :D At the lodge we grabbed some lunch and drinks before heading back around on the 2pm shuttle.

Wildlife: 2 scorpions, 2 ring tail cats, 2 tarantulas and 1 skunk
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We chose to start our Rim to Rim at 9pm. At the time it seemed logical, now that it is over, I'm not sure what really influenced that decision.
We attempted to take an afternoon nap, which turned into more of a sightseeing scout out camp spots errand than actually parking and resting. We needed to catch the 2pm shuttle from the North Rim that would drive us back to the South Rim. I was really nervous about missing this shuttle, so we left the South Rim, earlier than necessary and maybe we could have taken a longer nap.
The weekend before was the Super Moon, so it turned out we had no moon. The moon did not make an appearance until after 2am! We could only see within the light of our headlamps. We are pretty comfortable with South Kaibab, so there was no real fear of walking off or anything.
Stopping to use the restrooms at Phantom Creek, we finally got to see ringtails and see them play for a bit.
Getting from Phantom Ranch to Cottonwood did get a little boring, since we could not see anything.
We took an extended break at the Pumphouse, which has changed to Manzanita since I was here last. We wanted to have daylight for hiking out.
Soon after Roaring Springs, there was an endless stream of hikers coming down. We had to watch out for flailing hiking poles. These hikers were on missions to get somewhere!
We had great views hiking out. We were slowed down by three mule trains. I don't mind sharing the trail, but there is no place to hide from urine spray when they decide to go right next to you! :lol:
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My original plan was to hike the Arizona Trail from Utah, heading south to I-40 in Flagstaff. I only made it as far as the South Rim due to foot problems, other issues, etc...

Monday: Left home around 2am. On the way to the canyon I cached some water off of HW180 near segment #34. Once at the South Rim I took the TransCanyon Shuttle towards the North Rim. They were cool and allowed me to get dropped off at the start of House Rock Rd (after the Vermillion Cliffs and before the start of the Kaibab Monocline). I walked House Rock Rd for about 4 miles (loaded up with 10 liters of water) until a nice couple from Austria picked me up in their rented camper van. They were headed north to 89 in Utah but had no maps or GPS. I think they were happy to have someone confirm they were headed in the right direction but it took me some convincing at each road intersection. They dropped me off at the State Line Campground and the northern terminus of the AZT, saving me about 16 miles of walking under the ever warming sun. I believe we stopped to photograph every cactus flower along the way. Hope they made it to 89.

I started on #43 as soon as I arrived. It was the middle of the day and already quite warm. The trail wastes no time in gaining elevation via many long switchbacks. I was expecting lots of shade along this segment but the junipers come up a little short. Found some water jugs at the 43/42 junction (and pretty much every junction after that) so I really didn't need to start with so much water. Oh well. I set up camp somewhere along segment 42. Finished with about 19 miles for the first day. Fell asleep as a pack of coyotes howled in the distance (at least I told myself it was very distant :scared: )

Tuesday: Cloudy with very light rain off and on all morning. Much cooler than yesterday though. Ponderosa Pines started appearing more and more. Took a side trip to Jacob Lake to get a bacon cheeseburger and an oatmeal cookie (best cookie I've ever had!). The rain picked up as the day wore on. I was soaked by the time I found camp in the evening, somewhere along segment 40. About 37 miles for day 2.

Wednesday: Packed up my drenched tent, not looking forward to crawling into a wet tent tonight. Heavy rain most of the day. My sneakers were soaked and my feet were feeling very tender and starting to blister. The rain finally let up as I neared the Grand Canyon NP border. This passage is very beautiful but the pain in my feet made it tough to enjoy. I thought about stopping to dry out my tent as the sun made a few appearances but wanted to make it to the North Rim today and didn't have extra time. I sent a message to my wife via Delorme inReach and their superior Iridium Satellite network to see if she could find me a room at the North Rim. At about 6:30pm I checked to see if I had received any messages only to find my inReach was no longer in my pack :o . I knew I must have left it somewhere during a break but couldn't remember where. It was too late to turn back as I would need to make camp soon but didn't have a permit to stay in the park (my plan was to stay at the NR hiker's campground which usually has spots). I continued on to the campground and spent a near sleepless night racking my brain as to where the inReach could be. My coughing and gas-passing neighbor (the campsites are very close together) didn't help much. About 33 miles for the day.

Thursday: I woke up early to more rain and lots of wind. Fought hard to take my tent down and pack it up. I started walking along HW67 north towards the entry station and the end of segment 39, close to where I thought the inReach might be. After about 6 miles and 21 vehicles (not a lot of people leaving the north rim this early in the morning apparently) I finally got a ride. A nice woman who happened to be a park employee drove me a few more miles north where I could pick up the trail. Luckily after only about 2 miles of walking I spotted the inReach sitting on rock. I was overjoyed! It was wet from the night's rain but still working. I got back on HW67 where I was almost immediately picked up by two older brothers in a sweet RV. They drove me all the way back to the North Rim so I could start my walk back to the South Rim. So about 9 miles for a morning warm-up before the real hike started.

I headed down the North Kaibab with a lot of pain in my feet. It was very slow going. Took me about 6 hours to reach Phantom Ranch but I made it just before 4pm (closing time) so I could buy a lemonade and 2 bagels at the canteen. I met a group of four who had a permit for five at the Bright Angel Campground. They offered me their extra spot but I very reluctantly refused as I had almost no food left. I did stay for a ranger program though: GC Triva put on by BCO Ranger Casey. Very similar to Jeopardy, it was actually a lot of fun. Left PR around 5:45pm and hiked out Bright Angel. My feet felt much better hiking uphill for some reason. Topped out around 9:30. Pizza at Maswik. Thanks to all the kind people who gave me a lift! :y:

Did you know a Garmin Oregon 600 only holds tracks up to 10,000 points? I do now. I put together a route on HAZ RM of segments 32 to 43 and loaded it onto my GPSr at home. When I got to the canyon I found it had only loaded from Utah to the Colorado River, exactly 10,000 points. Mistake number 4,256 and another reason I decided to call it quits at the south rim.
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For her 18th birthday my daughter Mikayla decided she wanted to do something epic to enter adulthood and chose a Rim to Rim hike from the north to the south. We were lucky enough to secure lodging at Phantom Ranch even though we were only a couple of months out when we made the decision to do the hike.

Some other friends weren't able to secure their own lodging to make the rim to rim hike with us so they did a hike from the south rim down to the river and up on our second day. Our original plan was to meet at the river when they arrived on the South Kaibab Trail....but we were in the Grand Canyon. We weren't really interested in waiting around so we started heading up the South Kaibab on day 2 to meet them. We met up, hiked back down and then took the more traditional path out via the Bright Angel trail. I can't wait to go again.
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The Gateway Community of Tusayan, south of the Grand Canyon, welcomed me with a gigantic banner and a fun event at the Big E Steakhouse!

After a delicious pancake breakfast cooked by gracious host, trail steward and accomplished long-distance hiker Li Brannfors, I headed out. It was cloudy and as I got into the car, it started sleeting big, mushy drops. By the time I got to the South Kaibab Trailhead, it was clear overhead, but looked like the North Rim was getting pounded.

I was able to get a night at the dorms at Phantom Ranch and a permit for Cottonwood Campground for the following evening, giving me a light schedule of only 7 miles a day. I was looking forward to having time to lounge about in my favorite places on the way. I had been doing high mileage without much of a break and my feet were definitely feeling it.

I was so excited to hike into the Canyon, it is my favorite place in the world and I never get tired of exploring it. The Kaibab Trail is on a ridgeline most of the time and the views are spectacular. I was practically running down the trail, but took plenty of breaks at all my favorite viewpoints.

My mind wandered to thoughts of finishing the trail next week in Utah, and I thought to myself, "You should really be here now and appreciate your hike through the Grand Canyon". Just then, a young man came up the trail wearing a shirt that said The Here And Now- how appropriate! He was from France and we had a nice chat before I continued on.

I am particularly enamored of the views of Zoroaster Temple, such an incredible landmark! The hike down was easy and went quickly. Despite clouds all around, I didn't get rained on at all. I crossed the Black Bridge and made my way down to the Boat Beach on the Colorado River.

It was so fun to be at the Boat Beach with the rest of the day to myself. I dunked my feet in the icy river, then set up under a bush to take a nap. Just the way I wanted to spend the afternoon.

I checked into the dorm and went to dinner at Phantom Ranch. All you can eat vegetarian chili, salad and cornbread- topped off with chocolate cake for dessert! Went back to the Boat Beach and on the way visited and pet the mules in the corral. I had the most wonderful time stargazing and enjoying having the beach all to myself. I work on the river as a guide in the summertime, and we stop at Boat Beach just to fill our water jugs at the faucet, then go on with our trip.

I didn't get to sleep until really late and the next morning was woken by the call for breakfast. I wasn't eating at the ranch, so I packed my stuff up and headed to my next destination- Ribbon Falls. The North Kaibab Trail was full of rim-to-rim runners, many who were really rude. It was most unfortunate. I found a place to dip my feet in Bright Angel Creek and watched as people rushed by.

I hoped that Ribbon Falls wouldn't be too crowded, and miraculously, on a Saturday during Memorial Day weekend, only two parties visited during the many hours I spent at the falls. I just love this waterfall, no matter how many times I've been here, it's always a treat- kind of how I feel about the rest of the Canyon. It rained on me for a little bit, just enough to be refreshing.

Around dinnertime I left Ribbon Falls to hike the rest of the way to Cottonwood Campground. I found Michael E, a fellow thru-hiker, at the campground. It was so nice to have someone else to talk to who could understand the mixed emotions I was having now that the end of the hike was coming up soon.

The next morning I was out of camp by 7am and excited about my hike out of the canyon. Couldn't resist dunking my feet at the waterfall by the trail, so I took a short break.

Michael caught up with me and we ended up leapfrogging the rest of the way up the trail. It was a perfect day, not too hot given that it was the end of May. The miles fell under my feet easier than ever before- it's amazing what 700 miles of conditioning can do! I took a bunch of breaks for pictures and scenery and still managed to get to higher elevations before it got too hot.

Such a wonderful hike, each layer it's own geological story. I'm always conflicted about which is my favorite- sometimes I'm convinced the Supai is the most attractive, then I think about how incredible the Redwall is, and then there's the ancient schists that make up the Granite Gorge...

I crossed the last footbridge and started up toward the Supai Tunnel. Ordinarily, this part of the hike feels like it takes forever, but this time the tunnel appeared so quickly I was a little sad that my hike through the Canyon was mostly over.

Michael and I took a break at the tunnel, then continued the climb to the rim. Temperatures were great and fresh-faced, clean-smelling tourists in flip flops began to appear. I love the view from the Coconino Overlook and part of me wished that I could hang out and take a nap. Which would have been impossible, since it was a busy Sunday filled with tourists. Finally, one couple decided to take pictures jumping right near the edge and I took that as my cue to leave.

The last part of the trail is heavily wooded and shady and temps were perfect. I reached the rim and Michael was right behind me. I felt great that I'd had such an easy hike out, and had the rest of the day to relax.

As we were sitting at the trailhead, some guys hiked out, whooping and hollering about how awesome they were for having hiked out of the Canyon. Full of bravado, they turned to us and said, "It's pretty great down there, you should hike it sometime!" To which I answered, "Yes, we came from the bottom too, but we started our hike at the Mexican border two months ago." "No way!" they said, and then their faces dropped. "Well, I was feeling pretty great about my accomplishment till I heard that." It was pretty funny.

I spent the rest of the day relaxing with my dad at my friend's apartment on the rim and getting ready for the final week into Utah. It was bittersweet knowing that this incredible journey would soon come to an end. Thankfully I'll be returning to the Canyon at the end of June to start my river season.
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fricknaley
Hiking44.50 Miles 12,010 AEG
Hiking44.50 Miles   19 Hrs   20 Mns   2.60 mph
12,010 ft AEG   2 Hrs   15 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
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Rim to Rim to Rim Dayhike with Uncle Dennis

Whatever i say about this won't be enough or worthy of how awesome of a day this was. everything went great, the weather was just spectacular and we both felt good and kept a nice pace all day and night. we started at 530 am and finished at 1250am. every sight, sound and smell along the way will be cherished forever :)

what a great hike :y:
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Apr 20 2014
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 Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking31.00 Miles 8,800 AEG
Hiking31.00 Miles   15 Hrs      2.38 mph
8,800 ft AEG   2 Hrs    Break
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My initial plan was to summit Brahma Temple and Maybe Deva Temple if there was enough time. Ha! Here's what really happened:

Got on the first bus to South Kaibab Trail and was on trail by 4:45am. Walking down, I was able to pass a group of 10 Rim2Rim runners. When they ran, they ran fast. But they also took lots of breaks. Must have been union runners. I was happy to see the water faucets were back on at the bottom. Picked up Clear Creek trail about 1/2 mile north of Phantom Ranch and followed for about 2 3/4 miles until Sumner Wash. Took Sumner Wash up to a break in the Red Wall layer which allowed me access to a cairned route through the Supai and eventually to the base of Zoroaster.
While trudging through the lower Supai, I became victim of an unprovoked agave attack. A spine pierced about 1" into my shin. I yanked it out but I think part of the tip is still inside (still hurts 2 days later and my foot is slightly numb and tingly). I didn't want to run into anymore agave so, like a midget at a urinal, I knew I'd have to stay on my toes.

There are several class 4 climbs in the Supai, 3 of them have ropes to assist. When I got to, what I believe was, the last one, I saw that the end of the rope was hanging about 10 feet off the ground. Being considerably less than 10 feet tall, this would be the turn-around point for me. I probably could have found a way up and I did have about 60' of rope with me but...so many excuses... I had already gone up several climbs that I was unsure if I'd be able to get back down. It was getting warm out and the Redwall notch had some tricky spots that were weighing heavy on me so I knew it was time to head back. So I made it almost to the Coconino base of Zoroaster. I felt satisfied enough.

On the way back I stopped at Phantom Ranch canteen for a bagel and lemonade. Took a long nap in the group site shelter. Followed Bright Angel out of the canyon. Didn't see anyone until Indian Garden and even then only saw a handful all the way to the top.

Water faucet was on at 1 1/2 mile resthouse. I didn't check 3 mile RH. They're both advertised as off.
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