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May 17 2019
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 Sunnyslope, PHX
Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Hiking11.45 Miles 1,265 AEG
Hiking11.45 Miles   6 Hrs   6 Mns   1.88 mph
1,265 ft AEG
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Since temps were expected to be very comfortable last Friday, I decided to stay in the Valley. (More or less.)

The furthest I had ever been up rocky, bumpy, FR 172 was Pam's New Year climb up Roblas Butte back in 2016: [ photoset ]

I took my time driving up FR 172, enjoying the views, and taking care in what to me were trickier sections. The last thing I wanted was a flat, or to puncture the oil pan, as FR 172 has no cell reception at all. It took me 1h 15m. I started hiking at 8:30 a.m.

The turn off for Coffee Flat Trail #108, down Fraser Canyon, is just before Woodbury Well, and is marked by a cairn. But first I explored the well. It has a windmill, but it no longer operates the pump, which is now solar-powered. At the base of the windmill was an elevated rubber pipe end, which was giving a steady flow of clear water. Two adjacent large plastic tanks sound like they were both full. (I knocked.) A spring box was dry, but a cattle tank was close to full. There were a number of well-licked salt blocks laying about. 🐄

Coffee Flat Trail #108 would have been a great hike had it not been for the INSANE amount of foxtail on it, particularly below JF Ranch. I'm not joking when I say sometimes the trail disappeared in the foxtail. I suppose I should have followed recommendations and hiked the canyon bottom, but I wanted to lay down an accurate track. 🙄

Fraser Canyon gets pretty tight for the next two miles, past Whetrock Canyon and Musk Hog Canyon, to Dripping Spring. There’s a decent amount of shade, and lots saguaro on the canyon slopes. Near Whetstone Spring, I found an mine adit that went in less than 50 ft.

I took a break at Dripping Spring, contemplating my foxtail riddled shoes & socks. I decided it would take too long to de-foxtail them, and that the existing infestation might somewhat innoculate me against further foxtails I might accumulate in Randolph Canyon. 🤔

After my break, I started up Red Tanks Trail #107, which passed by some pools and pretty purple boulders & slick rock. Along the way, I encountered a gila monster — the first one I’ve seen in the wild since I hiked from the Bronco Trailhead to Cave Creek in 2016.

After a ½ mile, Red Tanks Trail #107 heads north while Randolph Canyon continues northeast. I thought at first I might have found a use trail, but it quickly disappeared. I really did not want to fight catclaw for four miles, so I stuck to the rocky canyon bottom. That got old quick.

Though Randolph Canyon only climbs 500 ft. in the 3.5 miles to JF Trail #106, it felt like I was climbing stairs the whole way. My leg muscles got so tired, I briefly considered turning back, and even had non-sensical thoughts like “drop pack” and “cross country would be easier”. Both would have been bad news. I had to gut it out.

A few minutes before I reached Randolph Spring, I came within 5 ft. of a wetern diamondback sunning itself on a pink boulder. Naturally, I jumped back, but he never did rattle me, or even coil. 😅

Despite mostly staying in the rocky bottom of Randolph Canyon, I still accumulated scads more foxtail, as I occasionally had to work my way around an obstacle, trying to keep my stabby feet dry. (I eventually gave up staying dry.)

Two and a ½ miles up Randolph Canyon, I was dead tired. Naturally, that is when I encountered a 2-3 ft. high fence, across the wash. I’ve seen read that there is a gate in the brush on the side of the wash. Not knowing it at the time, I wondered how I could lift my weary legs over the fence, as there was no room to low crawl it. Even if there was, I did not have the energy to get back to my feet. After contemplating my options for a few minutes, I settled for stepping on the fence, depressing it enough that I was (barely) able to lift my other leg over it.

Finally, after nearly seven hours, I came to JF Trail #106. Though there is a cairn, the trail is faint. If you miss it, and really enjoy rock hopping, JF Trail #106 crosses Randolph Canyon a second time, in another half mile. I opted to climb the 150 ft. out of the canyon, stopping several times along the way for 10 seconds here and 15 seconds there. I was spent. 🚑

About halfway between the Woodbury Well and the trailhead, I got rattled by a second western diamondback*, on the left side of the jeep trail. Surprised, I did the hokey pokey back step. After gathering my senses, I walked around him.
* I almost ran over two more western diamondbacks on my drive back down FR 172! 🐍
I returned to the Woodbury Trailhead at 4:10 p.m., after nearly eight hours of hiking. (I might have taken even more time, if I was not concerned about getting back to pavement before dark.) Cold beer never tasted so good!

In summary, I liked Fraser Canyon, but downgraded it a star due to all the foxtail. Randolph Canyon blew chunks.

Drive to Woodbury TH: [ youtube video ]
Hike Video: [ youtube video ]
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Desert Marigold, Ocotillo, Cholla, Flat Top Buckwheat, Desert Lavender, Sacred Datura, Prickly Pear Cactus, New Mexico Thistle, Saguaro, Salt Cedar and -- of course -- Brittlebush.

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Some water here & there, but not comparable to Randolph Canyon.

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Pools, and flow from trickle to audible pour, both above & below Randolph Spring. Some of the pools decent size. Some with algae, some crystal clear.
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Apr 12 2019
Xiled1
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 Mesa, AZ
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We headed out on Friday afternoon for two nights in the Supes. The plan was to loop from Tortilla Pass trailhead through Woodbury, and then back up Red Tanks/Hoolie Bacon. We parked at the road since we only brought the Suby. Next time we're bringing the Jeep and saving 6 miles. We can pack more booze that way. We were not sure of the water situation in the high country so we packed in extra. We hit first water at Clover Spring, pools in the drainage, but did not go to the actual spring. We camped up high for the night, right before you drop down to the Rogers Trough intersection. This section of the trail is mostly overgrown and full of ankle cactus. You can say that for pretty much the entire loop. Lots of loose rock to make it interesting.

The next morning we made our way down the JF to Randolph Canyon and it was flowing strong. It looked too inviting so we decided to take the canyon route instead of the Woodbury/Coffee Flat cow pattie. Typical canyon/water hike, loose rock, deep sand, wet feet and thorns. But it was beautiful and a highlight of the trip. My back and knees disagree though. We hit Red Tanks and started the slog up the hill. Red Tanks is beautiful but its always a test. We made it up, over, and down into the Labarge basin. The water was flowing nicely on the way down, but dried up to just random pools by the time we got to the camp spots. I recommend topping off earlier. We filled up and headed up Hoolie Bacon for about a mile to the summit before Horse Camp Basin and camped there for the night.

Up early the next morning and headed into Horse Camp Basin. Pools at many of the creek crossings there. Lots of camp sites as well. We headed the rest of the way out, up and down for a bit and then through the Tortilla Creek valley; a thankful rest on our knees and back. Plenty of water flow as well. We finished the road hike out and headed for some breakfast.

We'll try and add the pics later. Get out while the water is good.
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Desert Mariposa Lily, Poppies, Desert Chircory, Hedgehog Cactus, Blackfoot Daisy, Spreading Fleabane, Brittle Bush, and a few Evening Primrose.
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Mar 16 2019
John9L
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 16 2019
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Hiking10.00 Miles 1,245 AEG
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Met up with Kyle for a nice hike in the Supes. We made the drive to the Woodbury TH and headed in. We opted for a CCW loop starting with Randolph Canyon. There was a quite a bit of water after a couple of winter storms a few weeks prior. We tried keeping our feet dry but it was more of a hassle so we jumped on in. Most of the water was ankle deep with a few knee deep pools. We took a break by the spring with the concrete dam and continued until we reached the Red Tanks Trail. This was the highlight of the hike. We opted to follow the creek down as we headed south and all the water made for a memorable hike. There were several small waterfalls and we really enjoyed this section. We took a break by Dripping Springs and then headed back on the Coffee Flat Trail.

Along this section we had an interesting encounter with a fox. It appeared on the trail and was trotting right towards us. We thought it would flee as soon as it saw us but it kept approaching. I tossed a couple of rocks in its direction but it kept coming at us. Kyle then threw a rock near it and the fox got the hint and ran off into the brush about 12 feet off trail. We didn’t linger as we headed up the trail and got out of there. It was a very weird and unusual encounter. I’m not saying the fox was rabid but something wasn’t right. The rest of the hike was uneventful. We would see the one and only person along the hike near the Woodbury TH. It was an older guy who was doing a multiday backpacking trip. We got back to the jeep soon after and headed back to Phoenix.
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Feb 16 2019
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 Tempe, AZ
Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Hiking9.30 Miles 1,175 AEG
Hiking9.30 Miles   6 Hrs   30 Mns   1.43 mph
1,175 ft AEG
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It's been too long since I have visited this area.
Hiking clockwise, a couple in the group took loppers and hand clippers, but Fraser (Woodbury/Dripping Trails) did not need too awful much trimming - we still did some major preventive damage though. Then... off to the raging torrent that was/is Randolph Canyon. WOW! What a flow - it was awesome; Randolph along with about every side canyon was flowing - it was a sight to behold. We did considerable catclaw damage in this portion!
Then, just about when we had had enough of the wet-shoe, creek-cross mamba we arrived at the J.F. trail junction for the up-and-over back to Woodbury.

I would suggest a visit soon if you have ever wanted to hike this area; with all the water flow it is an oasis.
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Jan 05 2019
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 Gilbert, AZ
Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
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Hiking10.28 Miles 1,305 AEG
Hiking10.28 Miles   4 Hrs   41 Mns   2.36 mph
1,305 ft AEG      20 Mns Break
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I don't know which I enjoyed more, the drive to the trailhead or the hike itself. Both were certainly worthwhile.

Although I've been to Dripping Spring many times, this is the first time I've attempted it from the Woodbury TH. I was not disappointed. Interesting geology in the creek beds, opportunities to go exploring in the nearly hills that line the creeks and fabulous views. The best part of the hike is the area near Dripping Springs where the canyons come together. I love that area.

I saw two couples out hiking. I met the first not long after I started the hike. I met the other near JF Ranch as I was finishing the hike. I stopped and chatted with both. I finished the hike on the forest road just past JF Ranch. Nice, long uphill boost to finish the hike.

The skies were overcast for the most part with the sun peeking out as I returned along Fraser Canyon. Not much water in the creeks; a few pools here and there. The temps were perfect.

This was a very enjoyable hike.
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Had lunch right next to it. I could hear it dripping,

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Not much, but a few clear pools

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 Phoenix, AZ
Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
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Hiking9.87 Miles 1,209 AEG
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This turned out to be a really nice day. I thought it was going to get toasty but the clouds stayed above us. The dogs were loving all the water. The water made this a great loop-- I don't think I would do this loop again without it. We did the loop counter-clockwise and had lunch at Dripping Springs where we saw the only other group all day. We short-cut it through the JF Ranch road on the return.
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Feb 11 2017
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Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
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Hiking9.97 Miles 1,245 AEG
Hiking9.97 Miles   5 Hrs   2 Mns   2.22 mph
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Headed out for a nice day in the Supes. Our group of four plus two dogs started hiking from the Woodbury TH around 10am and headed for Randolph Canyon. There was a nice flow of clear and cool water. From there we worked our way down canyon as we rock hopped and pushed through sporadic brush. It's easy going for the most part and very scenic. We took a short break by Randolph Spring and then took our lunch by Dripping Springs. We then started our return up Fraser Canyon. It's easy going again as there is less water and good trail for most part. We passed the JF Ranch and then followed the road back to our TH. We were done by mid afternoon. This was a really nice hike with a great group. We had perfect weather and it was great getting out. Thanks Kyle for driving.
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 Tempe, AZ
Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
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Hiking9.97 Miles 1,245 AEG
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New trails to explore in the Superstitions ~. It was nice that Liz came out and joined us. From Woodbury TH we hiked a short distance and then turned into Randolph Canyon. We got a scare when Kiva flushed out a large javalina chasing it for a few minutes but she was fine and came back. After our lunch we turned into Fraser Canyon. Later on Kiva found some cows that she found very interesting. Then we exited the canyon and made our way up back passing the JF ranch along the way. Both canyons were interesting and different ~ it was nice to check out a new place. The canyons were also nicely empty with the exception of our group and I thought we would go the whole way without seeing another human until we passed a group near Randolph Spring where we paused for lunch.
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Feb 02 2017
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 Mesa,Az
Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
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Hiking12.17 Miles 1,678 AEG
Hiking12.17 Miles   7 Hrs   5 Mns   1.88 mph
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Wanted something we hadn't done before and we needed to get out to Eastern Supes. Decided on Fraser - Randolph doing it CCW. Invited Steve for his 1st hike with us, showed up in shorts, :scared: To late now, headed over and down Randolph. Boy was it cat claw heaven, with so much water running we had to cross so many times it made the trip seem a lot longer, and more cats claw to fight. :o Needless to say Steve got initiated to AZ Pin stripping :( Got down to the Dripping Springs area and it was so nice, sat by the waterfalls and had a relaxing lunch before heading up Fraser. This went well and easy compared to Randolph and it's cats claw. Can't wait to return to this area :D
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Hiking10.06 Miles 1,377 AEG
Hiking10.06 Miles   7 Hrs   35 Mns   1.88 mph
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angela and i wanted to get in a good hike with jack before he heads back to minnesooooota
pretty sure angela gets credit for having this one on her wish list
i like canyons and loops, and hadn't hiked anything from woodbury so we thought it would be a good choice
lucked out with cool temps
met along 60, then angela drove tonto jr. out to woodbury
did well on the road, and now i know my truck could make it (especially with new tires :lol: )
so much to see out this way, too
got going around 8:45, heading up jf trail, then heading down randolph canyon
thought we would do the boulder hopping while fresh
right off, jack and i saw two good-sized javelina, and a little later on, a coyote
too quick for pics
there is a wide range of opinions on randolph canyon in the triplogs
we found very little overgrowth, easy route finding, solid footing on the boulders and good scenery throughout
were able to crawl under the fence, and any clogs had a work-around
much more water than any of us expected
one pool had several cute little frogs
near the confluence with fraser canyon, the red bedrock and canyon walls are beautiful
had lunch in a shady spot
i had not hiked this section of coffee flat, and like the part between reed's water and dripping springs, you have a trail at times, and stay in the creek bed the rest
again, little overgrowth, and work-arounds when needed
the trail was easy enough to follow even without some work-of-art cairns, and there was good scenery in this canyon, too
potential for further exploration along the entire loop
came to jf ranch, and took the road back to the trailhead instead of the trail, kind of by accident
enjoyed the day, the weather, and especially the company
jack, i don't know where the winter went
angela, always good getting out with you
looking forward to visiting this area again
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Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
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Hiking10.50 Miles 1,175 AEG
Hiking10.50 Miles   7 Hrs   39 Mns   1.86 mph
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We had several varied reports on this hike especially the Randolph Canyon part where the concerns were about the Catsclaw and the lack of a trail meaning that you were destined to hike the creek bed for the whole distance. Because of this we decided to wear long pants with zip-off legs but opted to keep the legs on for the occasional "work around" at some of the pools.

It was a comfortably cool start to the day and we arrived at the Woodbury TH around 0830 after Angela got "flipped off" once on a blind turn on our way in. Once there, it didn't take too long to get our shoes changed, GPS's reset, packs hitched up and on the trail. We decided to hit Randolph Canyon first as this would be best on "fresh" legs and it's downhill until we meed up with Fraser Canyon on Coffee Flat Trail. This worked out well since it's easier to jump/climb down the occasional boulder than to climb up their slippery surface, also there was water in some pools and some water flowing but not enough to force us to challenge the waiting Catsclaw along the edges.

Kelly, leading, soon spotted two Javelina darting for cover in the thick brush, I was only able to see the rumps as they disappeared and a short distance later we spotted a small Coyote who quickly left the scene. I'm sure we would have seen a lot more wildlife if we weren't making so much noise because each pool we came across had lots of prints fresh in the mud surrounding them.

Rock hopping in the creek bed was not challenging at all because there was a lot of sand/gravel mixed with mud that "cemented" the rocks in place and prevented them from rolling when you stepped on them, unlike a hike down boulder creek :o Then there was the numerous long expanses of smooth, colorful slickrock with etched in patterns from the centuries of erosion that made the creek bed hiking an unexpected treat :D

The scenery all along Randolph Canyon is beautiful and pristine and with the good walking conditions, you can observe the mountains while you're walking & gawking :) We rarely came across signs of previous hikers but there are numerous signs of livestock that have entered the Wilderness Area. Except for small isolated, patches the only flowers blooming was the bright red of the Occotillo, but Spring is in the air so the Cottonwood and Sycamore are leafing out anywhere there's water available.

Before long we were entering the area of Red Tanks Canyon and Kelly was in second heaven, with the colorful rocks, the flowing water, the superb scenery and even a small waterfall to top things off while Angela kept the video "rolling" :GB: This was such a special area that it was hard to keep on going and leave it behind but that only means that it has to be visited again and again. We took our lunch break where the Randolph and Fraser Canyons meet in the area of Dripping Springs, but once again we had to chase some cows out of the area before we could sit down in the shade and have lunch.

Following our pleasant break we now were faced with the uphill stretch of Fraser Canyon where it's a mix of hiking the creek bed and using trails to bypass some of the brushy stretches. Fraser Canyon is by no means boring, but after the sensory overload we had just experienced, it was a bit more of a mundane hike. Lots of giant Saguaro taking on unusual twists and contortions are fairly common along this portion of the canyon and before long we have reached the JF ranch site. Upon exiting the ranch, we should have listened to Kelly and followed the trail but the road looked so tempting that we stayed on it following it up an endless, steep slope back to the trailhead and a patiently waiting Tonto Jr :DANCE:

As we changed out of our hiking gear, Angela provided us with cool refreshing beverages and salty snacks as we compared notes from our respective GPS's..... none of them the same :? Gotta thank Angela and Kelly for being such great and fun hiking partners, this may be our last outing for this season as I'm going to be leaving for Minnesota in a few weeks :( but we can always look forward to next fall and the opportunity to continue from where we left off :)

Just a footnote to this hike. Don't believe everything you've heard about Randolph Canyon, if the creek's not too high and you can hike the creek bed, this canyon offers some outstanding views of a piece of the Superstitions that not many hikers take advantage of and I wouldn't pass on the opportunity to repeat it :y:
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Occotillo are in full bloom, several patches of white daisy's and small patches of Poppies still blooming.

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Water is flowing in portions of the creek.

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Some water available in lower pools.

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Surprising amount of water flowing and filling the downstream pools.

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Apr 05 2014
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 Phoenix, AZ
Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
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tibber
Hiking10.83 Miles 1,333 AEG
Hiking10.83 Miles   7 Hrs   33 Mns   1.72 mph
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JACK'S LEAVING :cry: HIKE

We wanted to get a hike in before the heat and before Jack left. We had a Plan B but it wasn't necessary as the weather cooperated very nicely thank you.
Tonto Jr. would get another test of its ability taking the 172 to Woodbury TH. Seemed to do fine and my confidence in the vehicle is building. We arrived ahead of schedule as the drive in was about 10-15 minutes less than the various maps said. The road is in decent enough shape; especially once you turn off from 172 to Woodbury. We did see a roadrunner that had to fly to get out of the way.


We started our hike heading to the JF Trail. I remembered the entry into Randolph from the Cat Claw Revenge event back in March 2009. The hike toward the canyon entry is beautiful too. Kelly spotted a couple javelina but all I saw was their rumps. As we got closer to the canyon we spotted quite a bit of water in the drainage :) . THIS was quite a surprise as we expected to see very little if any water.

As we entered the canyon the fun began with the beautiful Randolph rocks :D . We traversed thru the fairly flat canyon enjoying every turn not knowing what was ahead. Jack spotted some "bling" rocks that were coming from a drainage. We went up the drainage a bit to see and found lots more "mica-laden" rocks.

We eventually came to the fence Lee had mentioned in his hike description. I took the long way to the south rather than go under (actually it was just up the embankment and down). We came to some white smooth rock area and a larger pool where we stopped for a break which was about 1/2 way down the Canyon. On the other side of the pool some frogs were spotted so we enjoyed them for a bit. It was cool to hear them un-plop out of the mud.

We continued down the canyon trying to take it all in.
I did end up twisting my ankle. I have never done that in my limited years of hiking. I was able to walk it off; though it was a bit sore and was sore for a couple days :-({|= . It shakes your confidence a little. However, the scenery made me soon forget the incidental pain. This is one time when looking down is not such a bad thing because the rocks are so pretty and different. I have to say I was quite pleased with Randolph Canyon as it lived up to what I thot it would be and more.

We were delighted to get to the red rock section and explored around here a bit. It really is something and there was lots of water :DANCE: including running water with several pools. And before you knew it we were just to this side of Dripping Springs where we finally got to have lunch. It took us a bit longer than I anticipated to reach this 6 1/2 mile point (about 4 1/2 hours with one snack break). It wasn't like we were in a hurry but I always try to guestimate timing.

Now for Part II of our loop: Fraser Canyon. I was pleasantly surprised at what Fraser Canyon threw out at us. It was actually shaded in parts as we came in and out of the creek/drainage. There was lots of varying size flora including some huge prickly pear and some funky saguaros. There was quite a variance in the rock too and you had great views on both sides :y: .... AND, there was actually a trail from time to time. I would start getting tired but then the canyon would re-charge me with the scenery as I filmed my way up.

We started this section at 2 and were done by 4:20ish. However, it was only 4 1/3 miles with the steepest part being that stupid road ](*,) we opted to hike instead of the trail after JF Ranch. As we got in the ranch area the cairn contents were like works of art; just beautiful as we admired almost everyone that we passed. We did do some rock collecting on this trip. Kelly found this beauty that was bigger than her hand that she lugged up the hill (didn't even slow her down :lol: ) as Jack and I would stop now and then to enjoy the view ;) .

I took a lot of video and was disappointed in how the colorful creek/drainage bed looked more white than color. I guess when I do this type of hiking I need to point my camera more down than up and perhaps that will pick up the color bed. Truly, these canyons have colorful rocks to constantly admire.

Thanks Kelly and Jack for indulging me with this loop. It met expectations plus some. And of course being with you two is always so comfortable for me and always a pleasurable experience despite my getting beat up by the various flora along the way :oplz: .

On a side note: (I have to say I'm quite annoyed with Scout II constantly adding mileage. This trip it showed 11.44 miles but Mapsource/HAZ shows 10.83 after I load the route from Scout II: both Kelly and Jack's GPS's were showing closer to what Mapsource/HAZ did. How can I count on Scout II if I need to make a turn or find a location? I know a lot of you have a 450 and don't complain about the mileage difference so I must have a setting screwed up :oops: :x . Guess I'll keep trying.)

Video of Randolph Canyon:

Video 1 was hung up in youtube's stabilizer for 6 days (seems to be taking longer than normal unless this is the new normal as I was pretty shaky hiking down a creek bed). From Woodbury TH to and on JF Trail into Canyonhttp://youtu.be/4um0gj-lY24
Video 2 in the canyon to a little past the stock fence - http://youtu.be/SuC9md5AwCg
Video 3 includes the frogshttp://youtu.be/kOTVhjoT04I
Video 4 http://youtu.be/sCiEmG6SriY
Video 5 deeper into the canyon http://youtu.be/0mGK65rdR3M
Video 6 the red rock and water area http://youtu.be/70f5T9HlJks

FRASER CANYON videos, these turned out pretty nice I think as the sun was behind us and so the color was much better:
Fraser 1 - http://youtu.be/VNA7I1RT50Q
Fraser 2 - including the Fraser canyon gate http://youtu.be/0ZDHm2I3vJc
Fraser 3 - including JF Ranch http://youtu.be/NLBq8qJFqxE
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did see some cluster of poppies and desert phlox with occasional hedgehogs blooming.
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Jan 03 2014
friendofThunde
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Randolph CanyonGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Backpack avatar Jan 03 2014
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Backpack29.40 Miles 6,138 AEG
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I did an easy seven mile backpack into Dripping Springs to further explore some caves and overhangs in the area, and explore Randolph Canyon past the intersection with Red Tanks.

I only saw one group of hikers all day on day one, they were camped near Reed's Water. The stretch of trail through Randolph Canyon along Coffee Flats is really a little paradise in the Supes right now with the still trickling water, great views and thriving vegetation. I was intentionally lazy on day one, I only revisited a modest cave-dwelling site that I had come across the week before and then spent the day reading, and enjoying the very warm January day with the dogs. Although, grabbing a fire wood was quite the chore, as there is not much firewood around the campsites near Dripping Springs and I did not want to start hacking off live limbs of trees, as others have resorted to :?

I started Saturday morning off by exploring a cave in Whetrock Canyon that I had spotted with Wally over a month ago. It proved to be a dud, in fact, every overhang, cave and hill I climbed up to on Saturday proved to be a dud. They were also pretty rough on the dogs, lungs, and legs, yet great on views so it was a little quid pro quo I guess. I ran into Dave and his son Ryan while coming down Whetrock Canyon, they had day hiked in from Peralta that morning. The encounter was strange because that is the second time I had ran into those two in some pretty random off-trail spots in Supes. From Whetrock I explored some hills near the JF Ranch, I then made my way to Woodbury TH, where I photo-bombed a trail cam and then headed north on JF Ranch Trail until its intersection with the upper stretches of Randolph Canyon. From there the dogs and I left trail again and made our way down Randolph Canyon to its intersection with Fraser Canyon near our camp at Dripping Springs. Randolph Canyon was not to bad, typical dry creek bed walking, plenty of water, some great views, and a few minor attractions along the route. Dave brought out some great seasoned frozen pork Saturday night, and I think it may have been the dogs and myself's highlight of the weekend. I cooked over a pound of that pork on our fire and shared with Cup and Blanco, it was quite the pleasant surprise for the pups.

Had a late night Saturday, slept in a little Sunday. Was not up for additional exploring though, mainly because Cup had a little bit of a limp. Our leisurely hike Saturday turned into a 13 mile loop with some significant off-trail mixed in and she was feeling it. That coupled with the fact that the dogs and I spent 8 of our last 12 days in the Supes and covered just a hair under 85 miles in that time frame may have had something to do with it. Dave went to Whetrock and I headed to the TH. Perlata was bumping as usual, with over flow lots packed, and people everywhere, further reinforcing my happiness that I only ran into two groups of hikers where I went.
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Significant flow, significant pool.
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Jan 20 2013
mazatzal
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
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Hiking9.30 Miles 1,175 AEG
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Lots of boulder/rock hopping in Randolph with some nice slick rock areas too. The red tanks section and the area above Dripping Springs are very cool.
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Jan 16 2011
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Dripping Springs from PeraltaPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Backpack avatar Jan 16 2011
nonot
Backpack23.20 Miles 3,100 AEG
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Due to car trouble, had to change plans. The creek along Coffee Flat is flowing in sections. Speaking of which, I'm changing the trail sign to say Coffee Hills next time I'm out there, where's the flat part?

Set up camp at Dripping Springs and did the Randolph-Fraser Loop. Short hike out Sunday.

Saw a HAZ sticker on a tan pickup at the Peralta lot.
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Dripping and unusable, per normal situation. Creek is flowing though, so water is not a problem.

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Flowing pretty good, creek runs for a little while before it disappears underground and reappears in sections.

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Creek was flowing, so the spring itself flow can't be discerned from the rest.
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Nov 26 2010
hikerdw
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Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
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Hiking12.50 Miles 1,175 AEG
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Nice canyon loop hike. Not expecting to see any other hikers in that area we were surprised when we ran into the Peralta -> Tule backpackers (drewboy, azmike, and friend) in Randolph Canyon. Glad to read that trip was successful for both groups. Great hike.
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Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
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Backpack10.50 Miles 1,175 AEG
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Carolyn and I headed out from the Woodbury trailhead at 11:30 on a sunny Saturday morning with temperatures in the mid 70's. We were attempting this loop in a counter clockwise direction with the plan being to camp at Dripping Springs. The JF Trail had a good bit of cat claw so we were both glad that we didn't opt for short pants. Not 30 minutes into the hike, while still on the JF Trail, I sprained my ankle while coming down a small gully. A careless mistake while rubber necking and looking for cairns. The ankle rolled over completely and I had a few minutes of that nauseating pain. After about 5 minutes I walked it off and we kept going. I had some restricted movement but it wasn't too bad and I thought I could gut it out. Then we hit Randolph Canyon. This was to be a 4 mile boulder hopping nightmare. (smile) We were constantly climbing over rocks and trying to pick the path of least resistance through the overgrowth. Thankfully, there was little cat claw. But the uneven terrain was playing hell with my ankle and it was getting progressively weaker. We just went slow and steady and after a certain point you find yourself "lop committed" and you just keep plowing on. We really weren't able to enjoy the scenery as one is constantly looking down for proper foot placement. Also, this canyon is very exposed and I think the temperature had climbed a bit so we were working pretty hard even though we were going down the creek bed.

We came through one particularly overgrown chokepoint only to find a lone youngster, (14 to 16 years old), on the other side standing in the middle of the creek bed. He was camped out in a bare spot in the creek bed with minimal gear. It turns out he was part of an Adventure Crew, (ie: advanced Boy Scouts), and working on his 72 hour survival exercise. This is a simulated solo day hike gone bad. The theory being that one gets lost on day one and has to spend the night before rescuers mobilize the next day. The rescuers may not find you on the first day of searching so the hiker spends the second night in the wilderness. He had the typical day hike supplies, a couple of power bars and a sandwich, 2 liters of water, water pills, fire starting gear, survival blanker, etc. There was a base camp with another 20 hikers down at Dripping Springs and on day 3 it was their job to head out and find the missing hikers with some general map coordinates. There were 5 kids, (ie: lost hikers), total performing this exercise and we came across the 2nd kid about another mile down the canyon. (The other 3 had been "placed" up in Red Tanks Canyon.) In the middle or Randolph Canyon the going was a little easier as there was more sand than rocks but towards the intersection with Red Tanks Canyon the cat claw started showing up and the trail was very overgrown all the way down to Dripping Springs.

We covered the 6.0 miles to Dripping Springs in just over 4 hours. At Dripping Springs we came across the support party and told them about running into their boys in Randolph canyon. One of the boy's mother was there, understandably concerned and curious as to how her son was holding up. We told her he was in good spirits but that we were concerned with all of the fresh cougar tracks we had seen. (After she gasped I told her I was just jerking her chain- smile.) We camped up stream of them and made a new fire ring in the creek bed and enjoyed a really good dinner. The camp fire was nice and the stars were out. The overnight temperature was in the mid 40s. My ankle had swollen up quite a bit by now and was probably only going to get worse by morning.

In the morning, the ankle wasn't as stiff as I expected, although it had swollen up a lot overnight, and our hike out was uneventful as the Coffee Flat Trail was much clearer and level. No boulder hopping to speak of. We started off at 7:45 and were planning on following the creek bed all the way to Woodbury Cabin and the JF Trail so as to avoid hiking the road. However, we got sucked into a drainage heading to the right about a ¼ mile past the road intersection. (This little drainage clearly shows up on the topo map.) Rather than turn around and back track to the proper creek bed, we just continued up this drainage figuring it would intersection the JF Trail eventually- NOT. This drainage was pretty cool as it was sandy and not overgrown and started to resemble a slot canyon the further we got into it. But eventually we had to pay the piper as it rounded a corner and came to a halt. At this point we were about a .25 mile from the car according to the GPS unit. So we scrambled out of the drainage up a steep slope, (no easy feat with backpacks), and climbed over the hill that lies just north of the trailhead and home. All told, that 4.5 mile segment was just under 2 hours. That put the hike at 10.5 miles in 6.0 hours with about 1,000 feet of accumulated elevation change. Another lovely weekend in the Supes.
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Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
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Hiking avatar Oct 31 2008
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Hiking10.00 Miles 1,667 AEG
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This was planned dayhike#2 from our recent 4nt/5day camping trip under Byous Butte. Three of us headed-out from our campsite location off FR172 at 8:30am for the Woodbury TH to do this "Frasier Canyon-Randolph Canyon LOOP HIKE". I have had this one on my HAZ wish list since Jan'08 awaiting my next camping trip in this area.

The hike description for this one suggests beginning the hike by backtracking down the Woodbury TH access road to hike on the JF Ranch Road before accessing the Coffee Flat TR#108. I suggest a better alternative is to just hike north from the Woodbury TH on the JF Trail#106 for .5mls(to N33 25.494 W111 13.056)then turn SW at a rock carin onto the NE end of the Coffee Flat TR#108. This option gives you a trail to hike on which eventually does intersect the JF Ranch RD at 1.3mls total in(turn right), but with much less hiking on a boring road. You will soon see the left gated turn to the JF Ranch complex and the old corrals on the right side at this intersection. Behind the north side of the corrals you will see the trail sign for Coffee Flat#108. As the write up and trip logs confirm, you can stay on this trail where it makes sense to do so (a lot of overgrowth and catclaw this year) or just follow this Frasier Canyon creek bed all the way down to Dripping Springs at ~4.5mls total in. This trip, Dripping Springs was dripping very slowly, but with enough thirst and patience it would fill a water bottle. We saw no signs of any water seeps at this spring, but prior to arriving at the spring we did see numerous water seeps along the rocky creek bed of scenic Frasier Canyon.

We took a short break at nicely shaded Dripping Springs, viewed those upper Caves from the creekbed then backtracked about .125mls to the easily missed(almost covered by overgrowth) trail sign for the Coffee Flat#108/Red Tanks#107 Trail intersection. From here we headed up the also overgrown with catclaw and high grass, but very scenic Red Tanks TR#107 for 5.125mls total in(at N33 24.114 W111 15.476) where the Red Tanks TR and Randolph Canyon intersect. We saw no trail sign for the Red Tanks TR continuing on at this location, but it is semi-obvious that you part-ways here with the Red Tanks TR and continue up this "no trail" Randolph Canyon...

With the exception of the heat this day, all the overgrowth to negotiate, and almost stepping on a 7ft Bull Snake :o (hidden in the tall grass in a creekbed area of the Red Tanks TR), all was OK with this hike up to this point. :)

Maybe IF it had been 70F instead of this afternoon being 90F while also having to deal with never ending creekbed rock-hopping up this entire Randolph Canyon for its additional 3.4ml hiking distance, we may have enjoyed this loop hike more, but we did not enjoy this Randolph Canyon section which has very little shade and not that terrific a-canyon views to offer. The Randolph Spring was flowing nicely this day and there were numerous water pooling/seeps up creek from the springs before this canyon intersects the JF Trail. Also just for reference- the GPS waypoints for the intersection of ending Randolph Canyon at the JF Trail#106 are N33 25.494 W111 13.056

From this above intersection it was an additional 1.5ml hot and bloody "catclaw" hike on the JF Trail to reach our TH end back at Woodbury. Thank GOD for a wonderful marinated & bar-b-que fajita, sausage, tortilla, corn on the cob, fresh salad, and dessert DINNER to look forward too for this HALLOWEEN NIGHT! :D

Additional Comment: If you use a GPS to hike with I suggest that it would be a good idea to utilize one of the nice feature offerings of HAZ and upload one of the posted GPS Routes for this loop hike and some "key" waypoints noted above. I did and I can assure you that on countless occasions it was very comforting to know that we were still "on route" to our next destination point.

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Very slow dripping with no water pooling or seeps visible as of this day;

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Jan 11 2008
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 Gold Canyon, AZ
Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 11 2008
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Hiking10.30 Miles 1,175 AEG
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Went out on a great hike today. Lots of water features and at times thought I heard the sound of airplanes, but turned out to be roaring waterfalls. A great surprise which did not make seem right at first because of the rarity. Went on to discover some mines while being attracted by the tailings. Found one that had a vertical shaft.......deep. I dropped a rock into it, counted to ten and it kerplunked into water....how deep would that be ? Also found a fresh Gold Placer Claim, and I mean fresh, dated 1-2-2008. The backcountry drive to access this also makes for a special day. Saw no one the entire day.
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Feb 09 2007
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 Phoenix, AZ
Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 09 2007
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Hiking9.80 Miles 1,175 AEG
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Very nice day. Fraser Canyon is interesting. Randolph is fair. Lost the route twice.
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