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Mar 13 2016
mazatzal
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61 male
 Joined Jul 28 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
25A-Thicket Spring loop, AZ 
25A-Thicket Spring loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 13 2016
mazatzal
Hiking10.80 Miles 2,346 AEG
Hiking10.80 Miles   5 Hrs   50 Mns   1.99 mph
2,346 ft AEG      25 Mns Break
 
1st trip
25A - Cornucopia - Thicket Spring - West Fork 260 - 25A

Wanted to check out the new AZT alignment and the improvements to Cornucopia. Looks great! :app:

Thicket Spring now gets no AZT love ;) = complete thicket up to the saddle.

Hadn’t been on this part of trail since Sunflower yahoos torched the area - sad to see that the great manzanitas and manzanita tunnels are all gone :(

Didn’t see anyone until I met a couple of family groups playing in Sycamore creek about a mile from the end. Saw a gopher snake along 25A.
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Apr 12 2015
mazatzal
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61 male
 Joined Jul 28 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
Saddle - Thicket - West Fork - Cornucopia, AZ 
Saddle - Thicket - West Fork - Cornucopia, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 12 2015
mazatzal
Hiking11.67 Miles 2,457 AEG
Hiking11.67 Miles   6 Hrs   50 Mns   1.97 mph
2,457 ft AEG      55 Mns Break
 
1st trip
Parked at FR25 / 25A junction and hiked up FR25 to Mormon Grove TH, take Saddle Mtn trail to McFarland Canyon and continue on Thicket Spring trail to West Fork trail to Cornucopia trail and take that back to 25A and return to the 25/25A junction.

The area is recovering a bit from the Sunflower fire. The new posts installed by Shawn and team look good and will be even better when the signs are added :lol: We saw an Arizona black buzzworm along Saddle Mtn trail.

The area seemed eerily quiet today. From the time we left the Beeline to getting back we saw no people and no vehicles anywhere in the area except on the drive back we saw one pickup. There are usually at least a few people/vehicles at all the camping spots along FR 25.
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Apr 23 2014
Sredfield
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 Joined Sep 08 2002
 Ahwatukee, AZ
Cornucopia via E. Fork Sycamore CreekPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 23 2014
Sredfield
Hiking9.00 Miles 2,300 AEG
Hiking9.00 Miles
2,300 ft AEG
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Three of us walked up the Cornucopia Trail to FT 260 to lay out realignments around the worst washed out sections. Beautiful day on the trail!

On the way in we saw a good sized track hoe at the 201/25 junction, but thought little of it other than not to park one of the vehicles too close. We made our way in to FR 25, and noticed it had been recently graded--much improved. The gate was damaged and open, so we went on through. The road was great so we kept going all the way down to the creek. Pulled over and hiked from there.

The lay out went well, thanks to the folks from American Conservation Experience; I learn a ton every time I go out on a job with them. We hiked in to McFarland Canyon for lunch, then back out and retraced the new route, moved only a few flags, and headed back out towards the car.

Lots of wildflowers, and many different kinds. Post-fire soil changes I guess.

At about the bridge we began hearing an odd noise, very loud and growing louder as we continued. We came around the last corner and saw the track hoe breaking up the rock "road bed" or what had lain under the road bed before it was washed away exposing only rock. It was hooking on to a piece of rock and breaking it up, and adding gravel from the stream bed when it was available.

The operator shut it down as we approached because there was no way to get around. He explained they're re rehabbing the old mine sites; they will close off several shafts, adits, etc. and have to get machines and materials in.

So this will open that country up to a gazillion ATV's till it all washes out again. As it is there are a great many; we saw tracks almost to the 260 trail. Not much riparian vegetation in the steam bed after it has been used as road.

Going back tomorrow with the para-arch's so they can look for cultural sites along the route we laid out today. But I really want to see if the track hoe has made it across the bridge. The operator seemed confident the bridge would hold it--I will have to be convinced. Don't think I'd try it but who knows. Will report back.

UPDATE: Hiked it again today (4/24/14) with the para-archaeologists, low and behold, they didn't find anything.

The machine was at the bridge as we entered, the operator and project leader were there and getting ready to take it across. My doubts were strong but not strong enough to stay and watch and hold us up. Obviously the bridge held, on our way back it was way past the bridge and up the road towards the mine. No excitement. The road is smoothed out and passable, I'd take my pickup in now, at least till the rains come and wash it all out again.
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Lots of different kinds of flowers, penstimon especially, and some that was very big in comparison.

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Nice flow just downstream from the big camp spot near the junction in McFarland. Light flow in the wash along the trail as it heads northeast out of the canyon.
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Nov 02 2013
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 Joined Oct 29 2005
 Scottsdale, AZ
Gold Ridge Trail #47Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 02 2013
topohiker
Hiking33.21 Miles 7,051 AEG
Hiking33.21 Miles   12 Hrs   45 Mns   2.95 mph
7,051 ft AEG   1 Hour   30 Mns Break
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It was a day of climbing!

I started at the Deer Creek TH and took the Gold Ridge trail up to FR201.
A lot of the dead fall has been cleared near the upper trailhead!

I went down to East Fork Sycamore Creek and looped back to FR201 via FR201a. Then I went to the Peely TH and up the Mazatzal divide trail. I noticed that there were neon green paint on some of the rocks along the Mazatzal trail.
The upper Deer Creek trail has been cleaned up. There's a carbonate post an official forest service trail sign. At least the first 100 feet of the trail has been cleaned of dead fall. I briefly considered taking the Deer Creek trail back, but the memories of Grasshopper and me searching for trail changed my mind. I returned via the Gold Ridge trail.

The lower elevations were warm and the uppers were cold when the wind was blowing. Once the sun dropped and I went below 5,000 feet, the temps were perfect.

Even though there was 2 vehicles at the TH, I didn't see any other hikers and only 2 Jeeps.
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Dec 21 2012
BobP
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 Joined Feb 26 2008
 Scottsdale, AZ
Peak 6310, AZ 
Peak 6310, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Dec 21 2012
BobP
Hiking14.33 Miles 3,965 AEG
Hiking14.33 Miles
3,965 ft AEG
 
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I had planned to go up to Mt. Peeley and glass but the snow and my ankle slowed me down somewhat. The line I picked to go down to the auto wrecks was pretty scary. I've passed by them 3 times prior but never when it was light out. This time with a late start I was able to take a few pics and also found one I hadn't seen before. I decided to conquer peak 6,310 and claim it for my lunch spot. My snow angel came out like :pk: . All in all it was pretty nice and relaxing hike. The route I choose off 6,310 was a little bushwacking but didn't last too long. The upper part of 201 has snow and ice and a couple of downed trees(which I moved). As I got lower, Snow and Ice turned to mud. Didn't see anyone until about a mile from my car when I saw a couple of hunters. Now I can add this to my other Dec hike and I have 15.33 miles :y: .
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Nov 06 2012
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Cornucopia via E. Fork Sycamore CreekPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 06 2012
topohiker
Hiking26.17 Miles 3,664 AEG
Hiking26.17 Miles   10 Hrs   45 Mns   2.85 mph
3,664 ft AEG   1 Hour   35 Mns Break
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I set out to see the damage of the Sunflower fire. I parked at the intersection of FR210 & FR25. There was a troop of Boy Scouts getting ready for a backpack. A couple of adults came over to ask if I've been to the mine at the end of FR201a. I told them that I've never been to that one. They mentioned that they got the idea from HikeAZ and that one of the scout leaders was Preston the Yenti's dad.

I headed down FR25. About 1.30 miles in, I got sidetracked. I came to a decommissioned road behind a locked gate. I've always wondered what was behind here. My GPS showed that the road was about half mile long. I went down and saw the remains of some structures and the road went into the East Fork of the Sycamore creek. The creek was wide and mostly sandy. After a bit it turned into a box canyon with ample shade. I set my turn around point to whenever there was any rock hoping or climbing. To my surprise I didn't find any. There was maybe two spots with some rocks. Then a there was some water flowing down the creek. At one point, I saw the boy scouts up on FR201. I also found a busty water gauge in the creek. I hit a T section that was burned out. The creek flowed from the left, so I followed it. My GPS showed that the creek crossed a FR. So that was my new interim goal, to find the road and see where it takes me.

Right by the road was a mine and a furnace. This is the mine that the boy scouts were going to! I hiked up FR201a and saw the troop. We talked a bit and I headed back down FR201a. I found a semi-fresh graded road right off of 201a. It lead to a pretty flat area and continued on for about 1/4 mile. I wonder if this was used as a staging area for the Sunflower fire. I returned to FR201a and took it to a 4 - way intersection. To the south was FR4721 (that leads to FR25a), to the west was FR201a(that leads to the Davey Gowan TH) and to the east was an unnumbered road (that one leads back to the locked gate).

I took the FR4721 to FR25a. FR4721 had some pretty bad washouts on it. At FR25A,I turned to the East and headed towards FR25. Right before the bridge was a major washout, that would stop all vehicles from passing. The bridge was covered in sand. About a 1/4 mile from FR25, there was a new locked gate. Then past that, FR25a had a major 10 foot wide washout. It was too steep to climb down, so I bushwhacked around it.

Now I finally was going up to the Mormon Groove TH. The fire did a number on FR25. I took me a bit to figure out where the road was or is. This area needs some serious work to allow vehicle to get through. Once I started climbing up FR25, the road was pretty good. There was a couple of rough spots and one rock slide.

At the Mormon Groove TH, there's a new ~10foot radio tower. I'm guessing this was a radio repeater for the fire fighters.

I went down the Little Saddle trail for a couple of miles. There are some burnt sections. The silver lining to the fire is that now you have some better views of the area. I could see some roads that I couldn't before.

I returned down FR25 to the Jeep. I was in the dark for the last hour.
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Mar 24 2012
CannondaleKid
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 Joined May 04 2004
 Mesa, AZ
Saddle Mountain Mine TourPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 24 2012
CannondaleKid
Hiking12.10 Miles 2,681 AEG
Hiking12.10 Miles   7 Hrs   26 Mns   2.03 mph
2,681 ft AEG   1 Hour   28 Mns Break20 LBS Pack
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1st trip
We planned our trip based on the 'Easy Mines' hike description by GPS Joe and loading what I now know was his Feb '06 GPS track, which was a bit more than the hike description of 7.6 miles and 1400 AEG. But by adding a bit of bushwhacking in an attempt to include the Story Mine to the loop hike we ended up with well over both figures... no wonder why Tracey was complaining more than the usual. [-(

Oh well, it was great weather, we saw a bunch of mines such as they were (not much) and the equipment left at Sunflower/National Mine, met one hiker and a group of ATV'ers who were having a good time with Bud Lights at the mine. Glad we passed them loading them on their trailers as we drove out FR25 so we wouldn't have to worry about passing them driving home.

I found a lucky/unlucky horseshoe on the trail... unlucky for the horse that lost it and hopefully lucky for me. We'll be hanging up to see if it brings me luck... yeah right! I don't wait for luck, I seek opportunities to capitalize on.
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Nov 08 2011
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 Joined Dec 28 2006
 Scottsdale, AZ
Cornucopia via E. Fork Sycamore CreekPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 08 2011
Grasshopper
Hiking4.80 Miles 1,093 AEG
Hiking4.80 Miles   4 Hrs   25 Mns   1.48 mph
1,093 ft AEG   1 Hour   10 Mns Break
 
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Angela, Jack, and I made an early morning 4x4 drive up FR201 to the Mount Peeley TH for an anniversary, memorial visit to pay our respects to GPSjoe-Joe Domin, missing one year from this day. On the Mount Peeley TH information board, we replaced our "GPSjoe Missing Person Poster" along with posting an anniversary remembrance note from our HAZ and AZH community.

With a later morning (11am) start on this above hike description's historic route in the same general area, we three enjoyed a 2.4 mile hike in on this routes old mercury mining-Jeep road sections to end with a nice lunch break and respectful reflections at this hikes highpoint at 5413ft with a good view to one of GPSjoe's favorite Mazatzal Wilderness mountains- Sheep Mountain Peak 6996ft.

It was an especially peaceful day with nice temps, afternoon blue skies, long distance views, good company, some lingering snow to enjoy, and good memories for me of a present and past visit.
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Nov 08 2011
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 Joined Feb 17 2010
 Apache Junction,
Cornucopia via E. Fork Sycamore CreekPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Hiking4.80 Miles 1,093 AEG
Hiking4.80 Miles   4 Hrs   25 Mns   1.48 mph
1,093 ft AEG   1 Hour   10 Mns Break
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In Memory of GPS Joe.

It was one year ago to the day that GPS Joe (Joe Domin) went missing in the Mazatzal Mountains. So on this anniversary date, Hank asked Angela and myself to accompany him on a trip to the Mt. Peeley Trail Head, as it was here that Joe's car was found. Since I have been on the trails with both of them in the recent past, I gladly accepted the offer.

The trip up Hwy 87 was a nice early morning drive with snow visible on the higher peaks along the route and a sunrise that indicated a pleasant day lay ahead. Hank drove the Grasshopper Jeep and Angela and I followed in my Ranger 4-wheel drive pick-up. At the FR201 turn-off, the road began to show the first signs of the recent snows. As we proceeded up the road, the snow gradually got deeper and it was obvious we were the first vehicles to make the journey.

The thermometer was inching its way upward and as we entered areas that still held trees, it was like entering a winter wonderland. The snow was compacting on the trail and hung heavily on the pine branches forcing them to bend with the added weight. In the valleys we could observe a low fog layer covering the entire valley and blocking it from view. Angela was in a photographers heaven, shooting stills and videos almost simultaneously. Frequently, she would say "Jack, just look at that view". As much as I wanted to divert my eyes to follow her camera, I was too focused on keeping my truck on the trail ahead. FR 201 can be a tricky drive on a good day, but with about 4 inches of slippery wet snow, well, it's a long ways to the bottom and no shoulders if you should wander even slightly.

As we continued driving to the trail head, we had to clear some downed branches and a couple of small tree trunks that had fallen across the trail and at one point, Hank scared up a couple of deer that had been wandering down the trail. When we arrived at the trail head, the snow was almost magical, it hung heavily in the trees and was beginning to melt and rain down on us. Hank nailed a new poster on the sign at the trail head warning hikers entering the trail system to be on the alert for any signs of the missing hiker. A second poster, a memento to GPS Joe, was attached along side the first with a set of photos from Joe's collection of the area.

We backtracked along FR201 until we came to a Jeep/ATV trail that dropped off into an old mining region below us in the Sycamore Creek area. As we were changing into our trail gear, a light whisper of wind began blowing the fog bank up the side of the mountains and across the trail we were parked on. I gave a sigh of relief that it happened now and not earlier as we were navigating the snow covered trails.

We dropped down to the Sycamore lined creek to find the trees dressed in their finest autumn colors and with the sun shining down, the leaves seemed to have a glow that should indicate they will soon be littering the creek bed and the valley floor. There were signs that this was once a busy little mining area, as there were concrete foundations, a retort, and a large concrete slide along one hillside. There were several mine tunnels around the area but none looked safe enough to enter so we just took photos from the entrance.

We continued to follow the Jeep/ATV trails up the opposite side of the mountain and after a fairly arduous uphill hike we topped out at about 5,500 feet. The views from here were breathtaking, Saddle Mountain, Sheep Mountain, Mt. Peeley and other unnamed peaks lie to our South. A snow crowned Mt. Ord was to our North and the Mogollon Rim well behind that. The Juniper that covered the hillside were giving off an odor that was refreshing, so we took a lunch break here and took photos of the surrounding mountain peaks, basking in the now warming sun.

After the break, we began our return and got to the vehicles around 3:00 where we had a brewski and snacks then headed back to the valley. It was a fine ending to a great day, but the lingering question remains, Where are you, Joe.
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Nov 08 2011
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 Joined Feb 26 2004
 Phoenix, AZ
Cornucopia via E. Fork Sycamore CreekPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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tibber
Hiking4.80 Miles 1,093 AEG
Hiking4.80 Miles   4 Hrs   25 Mns   1.48 mph
1,093 ft AEG   1 Hour   10 Mns Break
 
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After our drive to Mount Peeley trail head to check on GPS Joe information and put up a couple posters http://hikearizona.com/photoset.php?ID=17451, we wanted to do some sort of memorial hike on the anniversary of Joe's disappearance. We initially wanted to hike Mount Peeley but there was just too much snow for us.

We stopped just before our trailhead because that's where Hank stopped [-( . I'm glad we did as we got to be right in the middle of the clouds coming up and out of the valley and over the road we were standing on. We then drove to the real trailhead, geared up (Gibbs has got nothin on us :lol: ) and headed on down the slightly snow-covered hill. It was a bit cold going down, with patches of icy snow until we got to the creek at the bottom. I must say, it seemed a long way down and I was mindful that we would have to come back this same long "UP" hill way :sweat: :lol: .
Once we were at the creek and were treated to some autumn-leaved sycamores :FG: , Hank took us over to the Dodge truck (I recognized it as an old Dodge as those pick-ups looked quite a bit alike for a long time; we had chased horses in the pasture in one of those relics back in the day). Unfortunately, the shiny chromed label had been attacked with more bullet holes; such a shame. We checked out the adit which was not too far away and then Hank took us over to the retort.

The what? the retort. Oh that. Anyway, it was a pretty cool mining equipment thing. I think Hank got a really good picture of it http://hikearizona.com/photo.php?ZIP=220078. I wonder :-k if someone should trim the tree in front of it so that it doesn't totally disappear. Next it was up the hill... oh and ANOTHER hill. You know one of those where you think it's gonna flatten out around the corner. :lol: At least it's a pretty decent trail especially as you get near the top.

We did get to go thru a snowy section. We stopped in an area where Jack decided to build a little snowman. Hank and I were his assistants. That was a much better idea than throwing snow balls! :DANCE: We rounded the corner and the snow covered trail was no longer snow covered. In just a little while we would arrive toward the top and the views would open up; mostly of Ord. Toward the top we encountered some more snow and some mud.

We reached the trails confluence where the views were :y: . We looked longingly toward Sheep Mountain and all wondered, "Where are you Joe? :lone: " We enjoyed a short lunch before heading back down the mountain. It was a beautifully crisp day and the views going down were pretty great too. We took a detour on what looked like a good path but it led to nowhere. We hiked past our still-standing snowman and waved good bye.

At the bottom, Hank realized he had forgotten to show us another adit so we went over and checked it out before starting the long trek up the hill to the TH. As we got about 1/2 way up, Hank was out of sight as he went around one of the corners. These boys were on a mission and I did my best to keep up. I went UP :sweat: that hill in almost one long swoop stopping once for 2 minutes to catch my breath. It took us about 20 minutes to get down I think and about 1/2 hour to get up it, give or take. We all stopped to pick up trash from the creek bottom up to the top http://hikearizona.com/photo.php?ZIP=220088.

This was a lovely day for a hike and though we thot it might be a little nippy, for the most part it was just right :D . Hank got a chance to reminisce and share his hiking experience with GPSJoe in this area and other trips (especially the one where they actually turned around). It was a very nice memorial hike. I look forward to hopefully doing some more hiking here :).

In case you missed it: Video from our drive and at Mount Peeley Trailhead - http://youtu.be/aenE9j-WX4c (if you like snowy roads and countryside, you'll enjoy this)
Video of our cloud bank stop and the first part of our hike as we get near the top - http://youtu.be/wxCC_03rVvg
Video of our last little bit getting to the top and of our hike back to the trailhead - http://youtu.be/sdq0MGhIhvo
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Four Peaks Saddle Mountain 6,535
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May 14 2011
hikerdw
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 Joined Aug 16 2009
 Mesa,AZ
Cornucopia via E. Fork Sycamore CreekPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar May 14 2011
hikerdw
Hiking11.30 Miles 3,750 AEG
Hiking11.30 Miles   6 Hrs   32 Mns   2.45 mph
3,750 ft AEG   1 Hour   55 Mns Break
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This was a roller coaster of a hike with slightly warmer temps than I would have preferred, but still a great hike. We also added in the Cornucopia-Thicket Spring loop.

We saw a White-tail deer at the start of the Cornucopia trail. He was no more than 20' from us when we both surprised each other. We broke for lunch at Thicket Spring and while checking out the spring I ran across a Arizona Black Rattlesnake enjoying a nice cool drink.

Great views along the way at the high points. Cornucopia at the beginning was a little over grown; the West Fork trail #260 was really overgrown. At one point my right forearm from the elbow down was covered in blood.
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 Mesa, AZ
Cornucopia via E. Fork Sycamore CreekPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 30 2010
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Hiking11.70 Miles 3,750 AEG
Hiking11.70 Miles   8 Hrs   30 Mns   1.38 mph
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Grasshopper (Hank) and I did this most beautiful hike in perfect hiking weather today. Cool air temps and puffy white clouds made the 11.7 miles and 3,750 feet of elevation gain bearable. All streams were flowing nicely having more water than I have seen on my previous visits there. Hank insisted we add the Cornucopia Thicket Springs loop onto the hike and drug me along kicking and screaming. Those who would like a tour of the inside of the Oneida mine should visit the iron miners website at http://www.ironminers.com/ironmines/oneida-mine-1.htm.
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Cornucopia via E. Fork Sycamore CreekPayson, AZ
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Hiking avatar Apr 30 2010
Grasshopper
Hiking11.50 Miles 3,849 AEG
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In February of this year Preston detailed this great new Mazatzal Wilderness access area in this new HAZ hike description write-up. I've always enjoyed hiking the many Mazatzal trail options north of the Mormon Grove TH and SW of the Mount Peeley TH. I have become very tired of needing to hike in every time from these two THs to access the numerous inner Mazzie trail options and the old historic mercury mine tour hikes that now reside on HAZ.

This hike description provides a new TH access point into this section of the Mazatzal's hiking in from the Mount Peeley Road- FR201 at it's intersection with FR201A (see hike description driving directions and my posted GPS Driving Route to the TH-Parking from Hwy 87).

On this hike in with time allowed at the historic Oneida Mercury Mine Complex at the East Fork of Sycamore Creek, it is a great exercise and fairly strenuous hike of ~6 miles R/T with 2300 ft AEG from the TH Start to the West Fork of Sycamore Creek (at upper FR25A) and back. Upon reaching the West Fork of Sycamore Creek, your additional "Mazatzal Wilderness" hike options begin:
..Option #1..turn left for ~1+ mile on the West Fork of Sycamore Creek (FR25A) to access the "Saddle Mountain Mine Tour"--> http://hikearizona.com/decoder.php?ZTN=518 ;
..Option #2..turn right for ~.15 mile to access (off FR25A) the site of the old Cornucopia Mercury Mine adit (now collapsed), then continue up FR25A for an additional ~.25ml to its signed end at the old Blue Ford Van, then continue for an additional ~.25ml to intersect the loop hike option for the "Cornucopia-Thicket Spring Loop"--> http://hikearizona.com/decoder.php?ZTN=884 ;

Today, gpsjoe and I really enjoyed doing this hike description which included Option #2 above. This was a really pleasant and great exercise hike (11.5mls R/T with 3849AEG). We have both posted our GPS Routes for this option#2 in and out lolly-pop loop hike along with our pic sets to aid and confirm. It was another amAZing day in our never disappointing Mazatzal Wilderness! :D
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Feb 21 2010
Tim
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 Scottsdale
Cornucopia via E. Fork Sycamore CreekPayson, AZ
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Tim
Hiking6.75 Miles 2,400 AEG
Hiking6.75 Miles   3 Hrs   30 Mns   1.93 mph
2,400 ft AEG
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Okay, I missed on the weather forecast on this one. It was supposed to be partly cloudy in the Valley with with temperatures in the mid 60's with no rain until the evening, but that wasn't the case in the Mazatzals. When Carolyn and I pushed off at 10:00 the temperature was 38 degrees and we were in the clouds. The rain, (sleet over 5,000 feet), was off and on all day and mud was our constant companion. We were dressed for it and the elements added something in their own way, but the views were sorely lacking. Water was running everywhere and the creeks were full. As a matter of fact, the full flowing East Fork of Sycamore Creek at the Oneida Mine was responsible for our taking a wrong turn and following an un-named forest service road up the hill to the north. After realizing the error of our ways, (right about when the road ended), we turned around, crossed the creek, and got back on track. Hking a road in these conditions was a bit of a life saver. And given the conditions of this road, I wouldn't want to try it, (FS 201A), in dry weather without a modified 4x4 as it is serioiusly rutted and has some exposure. (FS road 3722 would be simply ridiculous.) This hike had a few steep climbs which really worked the quads. It got a little chilly at the top of the Sycamore Creek divide at 5,400 feet as we were exposed to the wind along with the sleet. The hike down to the West fork of Sycamore Creek was very steep and the creek was really flowing at the bottom. This is where we turned around and came back. It took us just under 2 hours to get to the the West Fork of Sycamore Creek and about 1 1/2 hours to get back. All told, this jaunt came in at 6.75 miles, including our "side trip", in 3 1/2 hours with 2,400 feet of AEG. This hike was fun in its own way, (ie: a really good workout), but would be much better on a clear day.
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Jan 16 2010
PrestonSands
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Cornucopia via E. Fork Sycamore CreekPayson, AZ
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Hiking avatar Jan 16 2010
PrestonSands
Hiking7.00 Miles 2,500 AEG
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After a late night concert in Flagstaff, I awoke in Gilbert with Mazatzal fever. I drove up Forest Road 201 with plans of hiking the Cornucopia-Thicket Spring Loop. I changed plans however, and decided to try something different. This was that something. The Reno Pass topo and Google satellite showed this route as actually existing, and I was curious.

Hiking down to the Oneida Mine, I wondered how my mom and step dad had managed to get their Ford Bronco 2 down this God-awful road back in 1983. This was my first visit to the Oneida Mine since our camping trip there, and I was excited to see if my childhood memories were correct. The mine area looked like what I remembered, but the old log cabin with its metal spring bed and junk was long gone. The cabin foundation and the remnant of a single log was there, though. After poking around, I continued west into new territory for me. The Mazatzals hold a very special place in my heart, and I was in Heaven. :GB:

Reaching the divide, I was surprised to find that the "pack trail" on the topo map was actually a forest road (if you can call it that!). The hike down FR 3722 was filled with outstanding views of rugged Mazatzal country.

Down at the West Fork of Sycamore Creek, I turned north onto the Cornucopia Trail, following it up to the Cornucopia Mine and on to the infamous blue truck, where I turned around. On the hike back, I was treated to a lingering sunset over the Sierra Ancha and the rest of the Mazatzal range.

I stopped at the Oneida Mine one last time to inspect the retort and try to figure out exactly where we had camped three decades ago. Success! We had camped near the retort. I'm not sure if that was a good thing or not ;) . I reached my truck at dark, and enjoyed a night time drive through my favorite country. Today, all was right with the world. Nothing else mattered. :D :D :D
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Apr 26 2009
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McFarland Canyon Loop, AZ 
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Hiking12.10 Miles 2,150 AEG
Hiking12.10 Miles   5 Hrs   40 Mns   2.14 mph
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Park at FR25 / 25A junction. Hike up FR25 to Mormon Grove TH, take Saddle Mtn trail to McFarland Canyon and continue on Thicket Spring trail to West Fork Trail to Cornucopia trail and take that back to 25A and return to the 25/25A junction.
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