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Taylor Cabin Trail #35 - 9 members in 13 triplogs have rated this an average 4 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Mar 05 2021
LJW
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 Phoenix, AZ
Taylor Cabin Loop, AZ 
Taylor Cabin Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 05 2021
LJW
Hiking24.04 Miles 4,154 AEG
Hiking24.04 Miles   8 Hrs   43 Mns   3.02 mph
4,154 ft AEG      45 Mns Break
 
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One of my favorite hikes of last year, had another go but subbed Mooney Canyon for Casner mountain. Prefer it the tried and true way, but it was nice to have a reason to go back. Started the loop at 7am from Dogie Trailhead. Drive in is low clearance passable, albeit annoying, to the Casner Trail, after that I wouldn't chance it.

Walked back down the road to Casner and cut corners up to Robber's Roost. Got around the corner to a stone's throw away and saw that a couple people had camped in it and were just waking up. Turned around and headed down toward Robber's Roost Tank before heading toward Sebra Tank. Easy walk through the grass with no bushwacking.

After Sebra, headed down to Mooney Trail. Where the route starts on HAZ and RS is, I believe, private property. I think you can drive around via FR 4498 to a legal starting point. I met the trail someways down. The real track is only a hundred yards or so East of the RS track, but I saw a cairn and headed along the old alignment(?). Got caught in a ton of brush and eventually made my way to the creekbed. I found Mooney Trail at a crossing within a mile. Much less scenic way of making the climb as opposed to Casner. The trail leaves the creek just as the pines thicken. Shaves some elevation gain, however.

Best part of the hike for me is the descent on Taylor Cabin Trail. Thick forest of tall, orange pines with a red rock and limestone background plus some narrows near the bottom. Impossible quiet. A little snow, but it's been cleaned up nearly all the way down and was much easier to follow than last year. Nearly all of the deadfall has been recently cleared.

Got to Sycamore creek hoping for water, and found it completely dry. Was around the Parsons TH last week and found it to be swollen with water. Oh well. Didn't try to find the trail until the last mile or so to the cabin. The canyon bottom is so scenic through that stretch it'd be a shame to miss it. That, and last year had a lot of trouble with it.

Had a break around the cabin and hit Dutch Kid. Would like to do the loop next year and stick to Sycamore Basin/the bottom of the creek for that mile and a half to the junction. Would really only want to do it with water. Dutch Kid is well maintained and the views back down the canyon are great. Weather started to feel warm, any warmer and it'd have been too much. Nice breeze all day.

The friend I went with last year and I have been arguing about Dogie for as long. After this trip started to see his point. It's a bit of a slog without the awesome canyon views that are present for the rest of the hike. Saw the only people of the day at the end. Trio of campers headed in with two bottles of water, who weren't sure where they were. Convinced them to turn back before heading home.
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May 02 2020
survivordude
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 The Basin
Taylor Cabin Loop, AZ 
Taylor Cabin Loop, AZ
 
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survivordude
Backpack24.37 Miles 4,454 AEG
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3rd time’s the charm, I guess. 3 of us had planned on staying at the cabin after a 6 hour hike. Went up Casner first to get it out of the way but it really burned everyone out with the packs on. The trail (road) goes up over the mountain and then rides a ridgeline for a while which is pretty cool because it literally dissects 2 different wilderness areas. Sycamore Canyon to the west and Red Rock-Secret Mountain to the east. J had some pain in his quad but kept pushing on to the Taylor Cabin trail. Hiking down seemed to make it worse for him than the uphill. We were pretty much at the point of no return when he seemed to really slow and started breaking down. Also learned that he drank all his water for the entire trip so far. I took the leadership role and made sure we all stayed positive. Chase and I discussed options. The trail here is really fantastic. It stays down in the bottom of the canyon with very narrow cliffs to either side. After several miles and even more breaks we finally made it to Sycamore Canyon proper. No signs of water. Followed the super easy trail about 1 1/2 mile short of the cabin and we found a huge pool. The range of emotions this afternoon was grand. Elated, we jumped in and had a swim, then pumped gallons directly into us.

Followed the creekbed most of the way to the cabin in the AM and, although not too impressed with the grounds there, the cabin itself was cleaner than my shed at my house. Loved the Sycamore Basin Trail. The canyon is sooo huge and green, I almost got that feeling of smallness and insignificance you get when you hike the GC. The hike out of Dogie was a hot slog, and it has much better views going into the canyon, so we made sure to stop (shade) and just look around once in a while to soak it in.

Finally glad to check this one off, though it was a reminder of great importance to not only make sure you are prepared, but to make sure those in your party are adequately prepared, also.
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Feb 06 2020
LJW
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Taylor Cabin Loop, AZ 
Taylor Cabin Loop, AZ
 
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Hiking24.79 Miles 4,554 AEG
Hiking24.79 Miles   10 Hrs   33 Mns   2.82 mph
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Friend and I made our first trip into Sycamore Canyon. Wanted to see all that we could so we did the Casner-Taylor-Dogie loop. Went counterclockwise in order to get the elevation gain out of the way first.

FR525 is in great shape, and any car should have no problem. There are spots toward the end on 525c where the road dips that make taking a passenger car a strategic drive. Started at the one parking spot for Casner Mountain trail around 7:30 and headed up. I didn't know this in advance, but Casner trail is at least as much a road as a trail. Follows underneath power lines most of the way. Nice views into Sycamore Canyon and toward Sedona that would be much better at sunset than sunrise.

On the way down Taylor Cabin Trail there were at least two dozen trees fallen over the trail. Overgrown with brush in parts and the leaves and snow obscured the trail. Seemed like a more interesting way to enter the canyon as opposed to the Dogie trail, however.

Once to the canyon floor and across the creek, Sycamore Basin trail is overgrown and a bushwhack. Found it difficult to stay on route. Opted to rock hop down the creek a ways instead. Was nice to be on the creek bottom as after the cabin the trails climb away from it. Caught up with the trail at a creek crossing and it was clearer closer to Taylor Cabin.

Hung out at Taylor Cabin for a while and walked around the grounds. In great shape and well stocked.

Dutch Kid and Dogie were the best maintained trails of the day, and it made the going easy the rest of the way, apart from the incessant ups and downs on Dogie. Only people we passed were backpackers on Dogie around the Sycamore Basin junction and at the only creek crossing farther down the trail.

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Jul 01 2016
NoPal
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 Joined Jun 04 2016
 Sedona, AZ
Casner - Taylor Cabin - Sycamore - Dogie Loop, AZ 
Casner - Taylor Cabin - Sycamore - Dogie Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jul 01 2016
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Hiking23.00 Miles 4,271 AEG
Hiking23.00 Miles   11 Hrs   20 Mns   2.76 mph
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I've wanted to do this loop to Taylor Cabin for the longest time. After a dayhike down Dogie to Sycamore Creek last year and some fooling around on and around Casner this year I did some more homework and opted to do the damn thing from the Casner approach...

After camping near the Casner mountain trailhead, I got an early start just before 6 AM. I opted to drive a little further to the "ROAD CLOSED" gate under the power lines that run up Casner (this is the right of way gate for Casner Mountain). Getting the climb up Casner done first before the heat of the day sets in is recommended. Despite carrying 5L of water the climb wasn't too bad with trekking poles. The views going up are wonderful but the novelty of peeking down into Sycamore Canyon to your left AND the edge of Red Rock Secret Mountain Wilderness to your right is just fantastic. Pictures won't do it justice...
After spotting Mooney trail snaking up from the edge of RRSM wilderness I came to the junction with both Mooney and Taylor Cabin. The shade of this somewhat overgrown descent was quite appreciated. Taylor Cabin trail is cairned in abundance all the way down to the creek.

I did a dumb thing and boulder hopped ALL THE WAY from Taylor Cabin trail to Dogie trail, stopping at Taylor Cabin with quite a bit of help from Gaia GPS. My entire excursion boulder hopping was exhausting, hot, and dry (I would not recommend) however it did save me the anxiety of bushwhacking and trying to find the cairns marking the trails comings and goings thru Sycamore Canyon. My extra dumb choice was boulder hopping this in running shoes (read: not boots or even trail runners) it would be a hell of a place to slip or twist an ankle... Personally, I can rationalize exhausting and dangerous boulder hopping as "more direct" but ultimately it's just a preference and again, I wouldn't recommend this to another hiker unless as a last resort.

Taylor Cabin was cute. If you go TAKE A COUPLE PENS AND PENCILS. There are no writing implements for the log book. On my visit there was one pan of clear water that had run off the metal roof (about one liter) after the recent light showers in the area. Don't count on seeing water on this loop though, pack enough to safely execute your hike without finding water on the route. I almost packed less water because of the recent showers and I'm so glad I thought better of it. There is a binder with information about Taylor Cabin inside, it's worth flipping through if you like historic details. An intrepid hiker may also find the nearby gravestone of "Jak" (a cattledog I presume), the corral ruins, and adjacent storage cave. During my visit, mice seemed to have set up shop fairly well in the cupboards.

The boulder hop down to the Dogie junction was slow and exhausting. The junction is unsigned and easy to miss as the cairns are spread wide on either side of the wide canyon floor. I set a GPS waypoint on my track for this junction. Dogie trail felt like a moving sidewalk after all the boulder hopping. The trail is in good shape and has plenty of camping spots between the creek and Sycamore Pass tank.

dry Sycamore Creek at Taylor Cabin Dry Dry
creek bed and area is dry. one catch pan at cabin had clear water, maybe one or two liters at most

dry Sycamore Creek at Taylor Trail Jct Dry Dry
dry despite a few showers over the last 4 days
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Apr 07 2012
joebartels
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 Phoenix, AZ
Casner-Taylor-Dutch-Sycamore-Dogie Loop, AZ 
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Hiking avatar Apr 07 2012
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Hiking22.87 Miles 5,200 AEG
Hiking22.87 Miles   12 Hrs   6 Mns   2.27 mph
5,200 ft AEG   2 Hrs   2 Mns Break12 LBS Pack
 
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This is good loop. Glad I finally got to tackle it after knowing about it for so long. Casner seems under rated to me. The best views of the loop are from the top in my opinion. The sweetest part of the hike is going down Taylor through the thick forest. A lot of dead fall, luckily it's relatively easy to get over. The worst part is from when Taylor enters the creek over to a quarter mile before reaching the cabin. Either friendly or lazy backpackers have left over ten bottles of used coleman fuel in the cabin cabinet. Overall it's a cool little area and well maintained. The most enjoyable part of the loop was on the short Dutch Kid Tank Trail #54.

Believe the only water seen all day was in the creek about a mile ENE of the cabin near-ish 34.996719, -111.973172. Personally I wouldn't count on water down there much ever.

Our temps ranged from 43 to maybe 75. Any warmer at the bottom would have been hot. The rocks radiate the heat back with such little shade.

Wildflowers: one sprig of blue dicks, wallflowers on a couple occasions, indian paintbrush maybe a dozen times and a few other varieties I'm unsure of on the identification

First serious hike now 16 days after the foot injury. At times it wasn't too bad, at times it was quite painful. Obviously not the wisest choice yet I have no regrets.
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Casner-Taylor-Dutch-Sycamore-Dogie Loop, AZ 
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Hiking avatar Apr 07 2012
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Hiking23.27 Miles 5,250 AEG
Hiking23.27 Miles   12 Hrs   6 Mns   2.28 mph
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1st trip
I've had this loop in mind for awhile now. Time to escape the heat in the valley.
The injured Teva said he would join me, but had two requests.
1) No Rock Hopping - Oops
2) No Bushwhacking - Double Oops

We parked at the Trailhead at the end of 525C and started our 1.25 mile Counter Clockwise road walk over to the Casner Mountain Trail. This is the recommended way to go, (You were right)
getting the major climb out of the way in the beginning of a long day (2000' in 2 miles). The 4 mile walk across the top of Casner Mountain, yielded views that gave you a great overall feel for the Sedona landscape. At some points you are walking on a ridge that's 30' across, with views off both sides.

Be careful when making the turn off Casner Mountain and on to Taylor Cabin trail. The finely groomed trail appears to go straight and to the left. We wasted 20 minutes after it just dead ended. After back tracking, make the semi-hidden right, once off Casner Mountain.

The Taylor Cabin Trail was gorgeous, and reminded me a bit of how the Grandview trail drops into the GC. For the next hour the prominent feature is unnamed peak 6416. During this time, you make the 3 mile steep decent to Sycamore Creek. You'll pass through both conifer and deciduous trees and pass through smooth red rock narrows, while following the drainage.

Once at the bottom, at Sycamore Creek, the trail goes straight across. Two faded Taylor Cabin signs are the only clue. From here to the 1/4 from the cabin, you'll be skirting Sycamore Creek. The trail is almost gone in many places. This is the one area that it'd would have been nice to have long pants. It's a 2 mile hike to the Cabin from here.

Taylor Cabin is a place that has to be seen to appreciated. There's a lot of history there.
The chimney on that fireplace is something I've never seen before. There are some food stuffs, Water in containers, propane, etc stored about. If you feel like doing some cleanup while you are there, please make use of the Wheel barrow and shovels.

From here you take the 8.5 Mile Dutch Kid Tank / Sycamore / Dogie Roller coaster back to the Start. Yep... there are many more gorgeous views along the way....

We finished up just as we were going to need headlamps. We had two other side trips we were thinking for this day, but they will have to wait for another time.

On the way home, Joe talked about his Contractors.
Thanks for joining me, and I'm glad your foot did not fall off.
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Feb 14 2012
toddak
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Casner Mountain Trail #8Sedona, AZ
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toddak
Hiking21.00 Miles 3,000 AEG
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Excellent loop up Casner, down Taylor Cabin (tons of downed trees), down Sycamore (endless rockhopping) and out Dogie. Happy birthday Arizona, 100 years and looking great!
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Taylor Cabin Trail #35Sedona, AZ
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Backpack8.00 Miles 1,761 AEG
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 Flagstaff, AZ
Taylor Cabin Trail #35Sedona, AZ
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Hiking2.90 Miles 1,761 AEG
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This hike was a good hard hike, espically with the hot sun beating down. Did not bring enough water for the dog so he was hurting more than me. When I got out I came to my truck and it had a flat, so after the tiring hike I had to change a flat. What fun! The views were great and the canyon hiking was great. Next time I will bring plenty of water!
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Mar 16 2008
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Hiking6.00 Miles 1,761 AEG
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Nov 21 2007
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Taylor Cabin Trail #35Sedona, AZ
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Hiking5.00 Miles 2,100 AEG
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We left Sedona around 8am and drove two hours mostly on dirt roads to the trail head. The views were spectacular even at the start: we could look over the Verde Valley and at the same time deep into Sycamore Canyon. The trail descends steeply (but with some switch backs)at the beginning, then levels off a bit as it follows the rocky wash in the side canyon. You pass through several dramatic narrow passages and quite suddenly come to the wide open Sycamore Canyon bottom proper. Cross the wash to pick up the continuation of the trail -- left towards Taylor Cabin, right towards Winter Cabin. The trail crosses the river bed several times and is at times a bit hard to follow. Taylor Cabin is a beautifully maintained stone cabin built (according to inscription in the stone) in 1931. The cabin is very tidy, immaculately clean. Unlike many unattended places, there wasn't any trash.

We had reached the cabin around 1 pm, so we just had a quick snack and started back. We were back up at the trail head shortly after four. On the drive back, it got dark. All forest roads look alike in the dark!

The round trip hiking distance is around ten miles with a CEC of about 2,400 feet. A lot of the hiking is on river rocks. There isn't any water anywhere on the trail. (Taylor cabin had a few plastic containers with water) Long stretches of the trail are shaded, but about half the distance down in the bottom of Sycamore Canyon is in full sun.

We all decided that we wanted to return, but also thought it might be more enjoyable as a two day backpack, with an overnight stay at Taylor Cabin.

The cabin can also be reached from the south via Dogie Trail and Sycamore Basin Trail. Or even longer, from the Parsons Trail trail head via Packard Mesa Trail and Sycamore Basin Trail.
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Oct 21 2007
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Taylor Cabin via Dogie Trail - Sycamore CanyonSedona, AZ
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I actually ended up doing a loop hike from Dogie TH, down to Sycamore Canyon, up past Taylor Cabin, to the junction with the Taylor Cabin trail, up this side canyon to the TH on Casner Mountain, south along the 4x4 road & powerlines, and eventually down back to the Dogie TH. My guide book list this loop as 18.8m and another site has it as ~20m and having done the hike I'm thinking it's closer to 20ish than 18ish (the NF map isn't the greatest at listing mileage :lol: ). I day hiked this loop clockwise, but I would recommend doing it counter-clockwise to get the climbing up Casner mountain done early plus better lighting for photos as the sun glides across the sky. Taylor cabin is a pleasant place and would make a great backpacking destination. Most would prefer to backpack this rugged remote loop, esp considering I was barely able to squeak this hike out just after the sun set. It should be noted that the NF map shows the trail sticking to the westside of the canyon down around Taylor cabin, but in reality it jumps sides a few times and you could also just boulder hop right up/down the dry creekbed if you prefer.
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Feb 25 2007
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 Prescott, AZ
Taylor Cabin Trail #35Sedona, AZ
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Hiking2.90 Miles 1,761 AEG
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Sunday me and my wife and my brother went into sycamore canyon from the south.We are planing a 3 night trip to taylors cabin in march. So we hiked in 8 gallons of water to taylors cabin from the trail head which is about 9 miles one way. WE hiked the water in 9 miles then hiked out the same day. 18 miles in about 10 hours it was hard.
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