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Sep 15 2018
Nightstalker
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51 male
 Joined Apr 25 2011
 Phoenix, AZ
Little Bear Loop, AZ 
Little Bear Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Sep 15 2018
Nightstalker
Hiking9.00 Miles 1,444 AEG
Hiking9.00 Miles   4 Hrs   31 Mns   2.73 mph
1,444 ft AEG   1 Hour   13 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
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Did a loop starting at Schultz Tank east on Little Elden to Little Bear and returning on Sunset. Took a little detour to peak 8843, great views into the burn area and well worth the trip.
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Jul 21 2018
toddak
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 Puhoynix, AZ
Sunset Trail #23 - FlagstaffFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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toddak
Hiking18.00 Miles 3,000 AEG
Hiking18.00 Miles   8 Hrs      2.25 mph
3,000 ft AEG
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1st trip
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Sep 23 2017
RowdyandMe
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 Green Valley, AZ
Little Eden Loop, AZ 
Little Eden Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Sep 23 2017
RowdyandMe
Hiking10.52 Miles 2,252 AEG
Hiking10.52 Miles   5 Hrs   31 Mns   2.13 mph
2,252 ft AEG      34 Mns Break10 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
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Elden Mountain Lookout Tower
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Aug 19 2017
The_Eagle
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 Far NE Phoenix,
Dry Lake Hills Loop, AZ 
Dry Lake Hills Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Aug 19 2017
The_Eagle
Hiking17.21 Miles 2,652 AEG
Hiking17.21 Miles   8 Hrs   48 Mns   2.38 mph
2,652 ft AEG   1 Hour   35 Mns Break
 
Up to the High country to enjoy the Temps.
53 degrees to start, mid 70's most of the day, hitting the low 80's in the exposed sections

Along the Rocky Ridge #153 trail there has been a lot of thinning going on. This trail roller coasters up to the Lower Oldham Trail, that we were on for just a stones throw.

Brookbank #2 climbs to the NW, affording good views of Mt Elden. Once you get up around peak 8747, the views open up to "The Peaks". On the Sunset #23 Trail for a snippet of time, we made our way over to the Little Bear #112.

This was my first time on Little Bear #112 and it had some big pluses and minuses. It goes through the old burn area, so you loose the trees. For me at the top, this was actually a plus. The views are huge as the trail follows on the side of the mountain. There of signs of reforestation, with scads of cone protected, 18" tall pine saplings planted everywhere. This trail drops almost 900', taking more than 3.5 miles, through exhausting switchbacks. I say exhausting, because the JBM was in full force once again.

The Little Elden Trail #69 / AZT, is a pleasant trail making its way up to Schultz Tank and the Sunset TH. We passed Thelma and Louise on Horseback.

The Schultz Creek #152 Trail is a gentle downward grade, in the pines, taking us back to the truck. We saw 5+ elk on the way down.

I couldn't count the number of mountain bikers we saw on this hike. They were out in full Fource...

The phrase that pays, two weeks in a row.
"What I meant to say was, Thanks"

Did we have a good time,
There's no Talon.
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Wildflowers Observation Substantial
Substantial in pockets. there was a cornucopia of color.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Schultz Tank 76-100% full 76-100% full
Appeared close to full.
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Aug 19 2017
Tortoise_Hiker
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 Mesa, AZ
Dry Lake Hills Loop, AZ 
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Hiking avatar Aug 19 2017
Tortoise_Hiker
Hiking17.21 Miles 2,652 AEG
Hiking17.21 Miles   8 Hrs   48 Mns   2.38 mph
2,652 ft AEG   1 Hour   35 Mns Break
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1st trip
Another nice outing with Bruce and Joe. Thanks gentlemen. Like Haz, you rock!
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Schultz Tank
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Aug 19 2017
joebartels
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 Phoenix, AZ
Dry Lake Hills Loop, AZ 
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Hiking avatar Aug 19 2017
joebartels
Hiking16.86 Miles 2,658 AEG
Hiking16.86 Miles   8 Hrs   48 Mns   2.42 mph
2,658 ft AEG   1 Hour   50 Mns Break12 LBS Pack
 
This typically easy for me hike was among my most difficult, in the end it was among the most rewarding.

2.9 mi on Rocky Ridge Trail #153
Appropriately named compared to other tails in the area. I'd imagine some mountain bikers enjoy the course as the rocks have a firm hold making it more fun than irritating.

left 0.25 mi on Oldham Trail #1

left 3.5 mi on Brookbank Trail #2
Immediately climbs up into the Dry Lake Hills. The only good ascent picking up 700 ft in 1.25 mi. Lots of courteous mountain bikers passed by announcing their presence and the number remaining in their group.

right 0.35 mi on Sunset Trail #23 - Flagstaff
Pines thinned for this short 200 ft descent. Passed several runners throughout the day. Two chicks at the top of this trail got our attention minutes after passing. We realized how impressive their pace was considering they just topped out a 200 ft ascent.

left 3.55 mi for the entire Little Bear Trail #112
Dense pines returned. Then they thin before what looks like a monster descent. Views of NE Flagstaff are scenic, especially now with fields of yellow wildflowers.

I deemed this trail the "find" of the day 1.55 mi in, the next 3 miles slapped back hard. The monster descent joke was on us. This trail drops 1,118 feet in the subtle fashion. There was no quick drop. The grade is steady throughout. Most will enjoy, the dragged out switchbacks were just wearing on me.

Anyone that has hiked with me knows I can whine like no other. This slow down grade just wasn't pumping blood thus amplifying every ache along with lack of sleep. B & D absorbed more of my nonsense than any human should fall victim.

left 4.9 mi on Little Elden Trail #69
Bruce thought this would be a 500 ft ascent to Schultz Tank. It turned out to be a ridiculously subtle 350 ft. In all fairness these trails are designed for mountain bikers and ascending period was better than slow descending.

I mentioned earlier our friendly mountain bikers would give way to afternoon riders. Less announced their approach, none notified group number remaining and their speed was blazing at times. No issues, we're friendly aware hikers. Just pointing out morning nets better results in my experiences when hiking popular mountain bike areas.

continue 4.2 mi / -920 ft for the entire Schultz Creek Trail #152
This is a cool trail weaving next to the dry creek and nearby road. Pines provide shade throughout.

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Bruce knew I needed an easy course. As much as it dragged out and amplified various pains the net result was monumental. After the hike my left fist which had been clenching for months is now sometimes at ease. I can move my fingers outward for the first time. Albeit ever so slow, this new hope is a lot to take in. Huge thanks to B & D for putting up with the world's biggest baby. They monitor me, the footing, among other tasks helping me sit, stand and the constant struggle with my pack.

One improvement on hydration was a success. I have an idea that should put pack stress to rest and we believe a little change in nutrition will make it easier too.
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Wildflowers Observation Substantial
Substantial in areas with an excellent variety. Extreme fields of yellow looking down at NE Flagstaff.

dry Schultz Creek Dry Dry

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Schultz Tank 76-100% full 76-100% full
near full
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Mar 21 2016
flagscott
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 Flagstaff, AZ
Big Elden Loop, AZ 
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Hiking avatar Mar 21 2016
flagscott
Hiking1.00 Miles 2,400 AEG
Hiking1.00 Miles
2,400 ft AEG
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1st trip
We did a nice long loop of sorts around Mt. Elden (no idea how long--we don't really care). I'll just summarize conditions by trail:

Elden Lookout - Nice and dry; almost no snow except two small patches. Feel free to hike in your dress shoes, flip-flops, or blue suede shoes if you want.

Sunset Trail - There is still lots of snow between the intersection of the Elden Lookout Trail and the road. We road walked from the top of the mountain and picked up the trail on the snow-free ridge to the west. Once you enter the trees, there is patchy snow for a few miles, and then the last mile or so to Schultz Tank is almost continuous snow. No trouble with navigation or walking. Snow was solid in the morning, posthole-y (is that a word?) in the afternoon.

Little Elden Trail between Schultz Tank and Little Bear trail: lots of snow, mostly solid.

Little Bear Trail: So, there are signs at either end saying you may encounter blowdowns and washed out trail. Hiking up from the bottom, we only saw a few blowdowns, and they were no problem. The real trouble was that the upper end of the trail is still completely snow covered in a few places on very steep slopes. We bypassed the first obstacle by going down into a gully. The second snow-covered slope was steeper and much longer. We decided that the easiest thing to do was go off trail, straight up the ridge and pick up the Sunset Trail north of the intersection with the Little Bear. Not easy but not too challenging. If anyone is thinking of doing this trail--wait a few more weeks for the snow to melt! (A quick rant: it's been 6 years since the Schultz fire, and the Forest Service still hasn't finished rehabilitating this trail! Unacceptable!)

Heart Trail/Christmas Tree Trail: nice and dry. We got a good look at a northern pygmy-owl on the way down.
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Saw a few phlox on the Heart Trail. Way, way more butterflies than flowers are out now! The early spring here has thrown off the butterflies' timing (thanks, climate change).

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Schultz Tank 76-100% full 76-100% full
Quite full. Actually looked pretty clean.
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Jul 10 2009
Jim_H
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 Regulus
Sunset Trail #23 - FlagstaffFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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Jim_H
Hiking7.20 Miles 950 AEG
Hiking7.20 Miles   3 Hrs   20 Mns   2.16 mph
950 ft AEG
 
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Went back out with my local friend to do the mirror image loop of Wednesdays hike. Today we did a Sunset-Little Bear- Little Elden Springs loop. It was really nice again, and the weather stayed dry for one more day. It really is a shame the FS never did any burns in the area, or any follow up burns from the one they did 3 decades ago that prompted them to post 2 signs talking about prescribed fire and how they planned to conduct more in the area. There are lots of large old trees over dense grass for a good part of the hike. Now, because they haven't burned in 30 years and the wet conditions of the 1980s, there are tons of young trees filling in lots of the open space. With out management this area will eventually look just like the crappy forests that are everywhere else around here: dense dogs hair thickets with dead and dying old growth trees. Its not uniformly bad, and there are still nice open areas, but there are plenty of areas that are headed down the path, especially along the Little Elden.
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Aug 01 2006
redwing
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 Joined Nov 22 2004
 casa grande az
Little Bear Trail #112Flagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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redwing
Hiking9.30 Miles 1,080 AEG
Hiking9.30 Miles   3 Hrs   53 Mns   2.39 mph
1,080 ft AEG
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Included this trail in a pleasant moderate loop hike on the north side of the Mount Elden trail system. Began from the Little Elden Trailhead. Hiked on the Little Elden to the Little Bear up to the Sunset Trail. Up and mostly down the Sunset to Schultz Tank and back to the trailhead on the Little Elden. There is a very good mixture of aspen, fir, oak, and pine trees along the whole route. There are also a few good views and scenic meadows to make it interesting. My favorite part was the upper Little Bear and the first part of the Sunset that I hiked. Ran into three mountain bikers and one horseback rider along the way but no other hikers. A little overcast at first but it turned into a beautiful day to be outside in Flagstaff.
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Sep 29 2005
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 Tempe, AZ
Little Bear Trail #112Flagstaff, AZ
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az420dude
Hiking9.10 Miles 1,080 AEG
Hiking9.10 Miles   3 Hrs   15 Mns   2.80 mph
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Good job by the forest service clearing the trail.

Colors are a little ways off. Everything should be golden in around 10 days.

Did the loop via Schultz Tank.

-peace
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May 13 2005
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Little Bear Trail #112Flagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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az420dude
Hiking12.00 Miles 1,080 AEG
Hiking12.00 Miles   4 Hrs   30 Mns   2.67 mph
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Little Bear is probably one of the best kept secrets in Flag. Its a great alternative to the top of Elden. (Lookout Tower).

Lots of snow still in spots (east facing shade areas had up to 3 feet!) This is a popular mountain bike trail and be advised - lots of fallen trees blocking through out the trail. It will need some TLC after a very wet winter.

Did the 12 mile loop that connects the Little Elden, Little Bear, Sunset & The Heart. Didn't see a soul!

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Oct 04 2004
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az420dude
Hiking11.00 Miles 1,080 AEG
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ok....told myself I'd do this trail again in the fall - and glad I did. I also discovered my new favorite "loop" to do in Flag.

Begin at the Horsecamp T.H. (7400') then catch The Little Elden for 0.6 miles then hop on the Little Bear for 3.4 miles (oh, at 8330' there is a kickass place to chill over looking Doney Park) then the trail ends at The Sunset - hop on that and take that till it ends to the Heart Trail(0.8) At this point you can turn back or go all the way up to Elden Lookout. (another 3.5 miles round trip)

On the return take the Sunset past Schultz Tank to the Little Elden Trail then back to the Horesecamp T.H. Total distance is 10.7 miles w/ an 1600' gain in about 4.5 hours.

The time is now - end of Oct. - The colors are awesome!

-Peace
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Sep 10 2004
az420dude
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Little Bear Trail #112Flagstaff, AZ
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az420dude
Hiking14.00 Miles 1,080 AEG
Hiking14.00 Miles   5 Hrs      2.80 mph
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If you're ever in the Flag area, the Little Bear Trail is a must! Located off of 89 just N.E. of Flag, like 30 mins. from downtown.

The neat thing about the Little Bear is that it connects with other trails in and around the Mt. Elden/Dry Lake region. (just an awesome region to explore)

I'd highly recommended going up Little Bear (1000' gain) then take the Sunset Trail to the top of Mt. Elden (9300') and chill at the Lookout Tower. Then head back down the same way, but take the Heart Trail down which connects to Little Elden and eventually to the Trail Head.

This is an awesome loop to do - you have everything - views, beautiful aspens and very green lush surroundings. You will however encounter many Mountain Bikers on your way up Little Bear - but they are courteous and give plenty of warning that they are coming.

I tracked it to be about 14 miles of very well marked trails.

(will be doing this one again in October to view the color changes)

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