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Jun 15 2019
ddgrunning
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 Gilbert, AZ
Widforss TrailNorthwest, AZ
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Hiking4.48 Miles 757 AEG
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Debated about what rim hike(s) to take while camping with the family near Jacob Lake, and finally settled on Widforss Trail. We did the portion of the trail that corresponds with the self-guided tour brochure https://www.nps.gov/grca/planyourvisit/ ... dfross.pdf, which includes 14 markers along the trail--totaling about 4.5 miles. I was a bit disappointed to find that there weren't any actual copies of the brochure at the TH. Should have printed one out beforehand.

In any event, the hike was pleasant and perfect for the family crowd, which included my two grandsons (a 2-year-old and a 4-month-old). That said, there was a bit more up and down than I had led the family to believe, which earned me a mild rebuke from my wife, who made me promise to stick with easy, flat hikes. 8-[

We took it easy, and enjoyed the forest stroll. There were a lot more canyon overlook opportunities than I was expecting. And the "end" of the guided portion of the trail stops at a great little viewpoint of the Transept.

We took a break and some pictures from the outcropping overhangs at our turn-around point, and then made our way back.

About a 1/2 mile from the TH< we came across a nice-sized gopher snake. He was gracious enough to let us take photos and videos but also did his best rattlesnake impression by rapidly tapping the tip of his tail on a nearby log.

Ate lunch at the TH then wandered down to the nearby Harvey Meadow to take a quick look around the natural cave that USFS game warden, "Uncle Jim" Owens, converted into a shelter in the early 1900s, while pursuing the USFS's overzealous efforts to "manage" the mountain lion population.

Overall, a great rim hike with a moderate workout, decent views, and pleasant summer temperatures.
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Jun 03 2018
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 Mesa, AZ
Widforss TrailNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Hiking10.00 Miles 1,136 AEG
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I headed out of Mesa late Saturday night to start this hike at first light Sunday morning.. I had a busy day planned. The drive from Jacob Lake to the North Rim is a favorite of mine. Although it was still dark this time it was still cool. The deer were lined up like I was the cool float in a parade :D . Then as I entered the GCNP the Bison were all over the road : app : 8) . My first encounter with Bison. A little dark for my picture taking ability but it was quite enjoyable just checking them out.
It was just light enough to start hiking when I got to the trailhaed. One motorcycle in the lot. Nice trail and a view here and there. When I got to the picnic table there was a couple (their motorcycle) camped there but up at the table already. I went over to the Widforss point sign and took a break. Todd had said there was a good view looking down at Cheops and I agree. great viewpoint from this side. Only saw four hikers on the hike out and one was a Ranger. Nice start to the day.

This was in my Boots and Burgers book. It suggest going to the Lees Ferry Lodge at Vermillion Cliffs with side note about Jacob Lake baked goods. That's a descent drive and I had one more hike to do up top in the morning so I compromised :) . I had two cookies from Jacob Lake for dinner and stayed Monday night at Lees Ferry Lodge and had dinner there at Vermillion Cliffs bar and grill. The rooms are ok with quaint fishing decor for all the fishermen I suppose that go to Lees ferry. I enjoyed the stay. The cheeseburger and fries were tasty as well. The young Lady working there was an NAU student who's dad works with the Condors which I thought was cool. It was a very enjoyable couple days on the North Rim and the surrounding area.
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May 15 2017
Hippy
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Hiking11.00 Miles 1,900 AEG
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North Rim opening day!
Jamie was off and I don't start work until the 30th I so we have hiked to "Widforss Point", which is the viewing area that can be easily reached by the five Mile hike on Widforss Trail.

We just headed east, down a 250ft steeeeeep gully/drainage type thing that was FULL of new Mexican locust trees and a few sleeping stands of scrubby oaks.

Thank goodness for the oaks and convertible pants!! I'd hiked the trail without my zipons on but opted to zip em on into pants before heading into the gully...ahhhh!

Followed a beefalo track to the bottom of the gully then right on up the other side. Numerous large fallen trees made the scrambling up through the locust quite easy for me, just walk the logs.

The summit was covered in fossils (Kaibab Limestone layer) and the views were beautiful of course.

The viewpoint we reached is known as "Widforss Overlook" because it Overlooks the TRUE rock outcrop known as "Widforss Point".

So when you hike Widforss Trail you're not really reaching Widforss Point. But I won't tell the tourists that ;)

The true Widforss Point is a class four scramble and climb where a handline might be necessary depending on your skill and the rock condition.
It was so windy today we opted out of attempting the true Point.

We returned from the overlook by sliding down 250ft back into the gully and following a well trampled beefalison track back to Widforss Trail.

Oddly enough it took us 1.5 hours to get from trailhead to the tourist point but two hours to get back...that wind was brutal and exhausting!! That gully though.... phew!
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Day 3 of our 10 day trip and we are headed to Point Sublime. The Widforss TH is along the way, so why not get in a good hike before the rain sets in. Wonderfully wooded with stately pines and aspen all golden. Views across the drainage offer sporadic glimpses into the Canyon. The trail is close to all the bustle of the main area of the GCNP's tourist facilities, but seems to get little use except from actual hikers. We saw few people on the trail. With much to do this day, we didn't go all the way to the end, but we got a good dose of Widforss. Definitely a worthy one and maybe one day we will do it all.
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Sep 29 2016
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Day 3 of our 10 day trip and we are headed to Point Sublime. The Widforss TH is along the way, so why not get in a good hike before the rain sets in. Wonderfully wooded with stately pines and aspen all golden. Views across the drainage offer sporadic glimpses into the Canyon. The trail is close to all the bustle of the main area of the GCNP's tourist facilities, but seems to get little use except from actual hikers. We saw few people on the trail. With much to do this day, we didn't go all the way to the end, but we got a good dose of Widforss. Definitely a worthy one and maybe one day we will do it all.
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Aug 11 2016
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Widforss TrailNorthwest, AZ
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Run/Jog9.45 Miles 650 AEG
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This was my main hike for Thursday. Actually did it as a jog with a couple of obligatory stops and WOW moments. There are several fantastic views of the Canyon as you go from one tip to the next. You actual lose the rim for about the last 1.5 miles before reaching Widforss Point, but overall it provides fantastic views of the Canyon. There were actually more ups and downs than I anticipated staying roughly between 8000 and 8200 ft. That, plus the altitude made for a challenging run. Weather was great though. I couldn't ask for better conditions. High for the day was 76. :D Saw about 25 hikers while I was out there, but minimal wildlife. There was apparently an aggressive blue grouse defending her nest that had the trail slightly rerouted. I guess it worked because I never saw her.
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Aug 05 2016
Hippy
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Widforss TrailNorthwest, AZ
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Had a tour this morn.
4 Wildland, forest service and NPS firefighters.

They wanted to hike AND learn so I comped them a tour and off we went!

Really cool storms moving in from the West
I was back "in office" before they hit Transept Canyon

Guy hiking back from "Widforss Point"...the trail ends nowhere near the ACTUAL point, but that's. Different trip log...said he saw a Mountain Lion.
I didn't see any tracks or scat but it's not uncommon to see them out that way.
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Jul 26 2016
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Widforss TrailNorthwest, AZ
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May 28 2016
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This was cool!!

Jamie and I popped off around 9am, left the housing area via Transept trail, connected to Bridal Path to NK TH then hopped on the AZT to Widforss Trail...

Eventually cut off from the Widdy to a sweet break in the Kaibab, contoured Toroweap for a hot minute then summited Oza right as the clouds rolled in.

Very Hazey day! Lots of Rx burns in the Kaibab nf

Had a blast placing the Oza Butte register with Jamie, also buried a pinch of Dads ashes on the Oza saddle because the views were great!!

Found our exit route (different than our route in) through the Kaibab, lots of very steep scrambling through scrub oak and soft choss yummmmm!

Back to Widdy for a nice evening stroll home.

Why did I live on South Rim so long before coming over here!!? North is Best!
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Oct 31 2015
AndreyP
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Widforss TrailNorthwest, AZ
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Hiked in the afternoon, had the trail all to myself as the North Rim season officially closed two weeks before. Lots of mountain squirrels and Kaibab squirrels. About a dozen single standing golden aspens along the trail, all others already dropped the leaves. The point at the end of the trail doesn't give much of the Canyon view because of local peninsulas.
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Aug 14 2015
Hippy
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Stole a jeep (not a pink one!) and escaped to North Rim to visit the man.
After dropping him off at work at 5am I set out to see some sights I'd yet to see!

The first sight being Widforss Point.

This is a Hippy approved viewpoint.

Super easy hike. Lots of offtrail possibilities and mushrooms! (But neither of those were the reasons I was there...this time)

I'm not use to this whole...hiking in the forest dealt but I got use to it really quick!
The smells were satisfying and the colors were, well, in a way, they were new!
Dark greens and bright greens...yup. I'm in love.

Jamie might have convinced me to spend a season on the North Rim...we shall see.
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If you enjoy backpacking in Grand Canyon but hate the heat, why not do a rim backpack? There are a number of options on the North Rim. I hiked out to Widforss Point where there is a nice campsite, complete with picnic table, and spent a lazy afternoon and a lovely evening out there. Slept like a log. Got up the next morning and after looking at "my" view again I hiked back to the car.

Once all the pesky day-hikers have gone home it's likely you'll have this place to yourself!

The night before the hike I car camped in the national forest for free, off of FR 22. Super nice campsite on a tiny two-track deep in the woods. In the early morning I broke camp and drove into the Park. I first went looking for good coffee. The Saloon at Grand Canyon Lodge has an espresso bar so I got myself a mocha. The fellow who made my mocha recommended Widforss Trail over Tiyo Point Trail, which had been my other choice. I then ate huevos rancheros at the Lodge, my table overlooking the Canyon. I was finished eating before 8 a.m. Drove over to the Backcountry Office and waited outside, packing my gear, until Steve Bridgehouse, long-time backcountry ranger, showed up promptly at 8 a.m. Talked to him for a while, trading stories and finding out we know several people in common. He issued me a permit and told me I'd likely have the place to myself overnight.

Widforss Trail is very close to all the other Park facilities. Once again I passed by the trailhead for the North Kaibab, and marveled at how many pudgy-pasty people were milling about, getting ready to hike down into the 115 degree inferno. (The following morning I watched the rescue helicopter heading down into that inferno, with a long line dangling down.)

Meanwhile I had perfect temperatures on the Rim, both day and night. I did have the place all to myself! What could be better? The hike is beautiful right now, with ferns and flowers galore.

At the trailhead there is a sign warning of a very territorial female blue grouse. The ranger also warned me. The area of the trail where she has her nest is corded off with pink tape, and a detour has been put in place there. I wanted to see for myself so I walked past the tape. That grouse came at me, hissing. I scurried over to the detour. She followed a short distance but when I had gotten far enough away she gave up.

On the way back the next morning I saw her again and was able to get a snapshot (not a very good one).

Since I arrived in camp by noon, after taking my sweet time getting there, I had plenty of time to rest, play my ukulele, read a book, write in my notebook, etc. When the stream of dayhikers died down and the sunset was approaching I made my way down the rough trail to the actual Widforss Point, a dizzying rock outcropping overlooking Haunted Canyon, Manu Temple and Buddha Temple. I took my map along with me. Over the past couple of summers I've been a van tour guide at the South Rim. I've been trying to learn the names of everything on the map that can be seen from the rim.

Looking at the view from the North Rim perspective I saw many familiar points: Wotan's Throne, Brahma and Zoroaster Temples, Angel's Gate, Buddha Temple, etc. But I also could see some I was unfamiliar with, such as Oza Butte and Manu Temple.

I carried 6 liters of water and had plenty left when I got back to the car.

This hike would be dicey in a thunderstorm since it follows a ridge where it's evident that many trees have been struck by lightning, so I recommend it only for early summer, in dry weather.

Animals I saw were the cliff chipmunk, Kaibab squirrel, Arizona gray squirrel, mule deer. On the drive out of the park I saw the herd of bison the park personnel have been concerned about.

After the hike I stopped back to visit with Steve at the BCO again. I wanted some recommendations for another overnight backpack out to a point on the Rim. There are many options, although he said many of the trails on my map are overgrown and some can't even be found any more. Walhalla Glade Trail has mostly disappeared, he said. He recommended Cape Final, although it's very short. I could do a day hike first, then walk out there and camp for the night. I'll be going back!
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May 22 2015
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Old Man Winter just won't give up this year. Nice to get some good views at Widforss Point before the snow started.
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Sep 28 2014
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Had to get a few more miles in before making the long trek home. Still fighting the soreness from the killer Friday down and up North Bass, we opted for Widforss since it is moderate in both mileage and elevation.

The aspens here were only changing in the drainages, but most were still green. It was a bit chilly, and even rained a bit on the way back.

At the end of the trail, I investigated going out to the actual point. It looked pretty easy, but required an off-trail scramble through a 200-foot canyon and an ascent up. I'd actually like to do this some time, but we decided getting back to town at a reasonable hour was more desirable at this point.

We met a group of girls at the end of the trail, and 9L shamelessly went into tour guide mode. They were so entertained. But probably not as entertained as I was watching it all from a short distance away. :sl:
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We spent Saturday night at the North Rim Campground and we enjoyed a warm fire. The rain ended around 6pm and dried off for the remainder of our trip. We woke on Sunday morning and packed up camp and then drove over to the Widforss Trailhead. There were two cars parked there and we started hiking soon after.

I hiked this trail a few years ago and it was nice to return. The hike is fairly easy going as you meander along the rim and then drop into the forest. We made quick time and reached the viewpoint which was obviously fantastic! We talked about trying for Widforss Point but didn’t have enough time. We were returning to Phoenix after this. We had our lunch and I got to play tour guide for a group of girls from San Francisco. They were a great audience!

The return hike flew by! More people were starting the hike out and the weather was very enjoyable! We arrived back at the jeep and then loaded up and made the drive back to Phoenix. This was a hell of a trip and I can’t think of a better way to spend a long weekend. We altered our original plan and everything worked out wonderfully! Our next trip is not far off. The Canyon never gets old!
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Great long weekend in the Grand Canyon. We planned to hike over to the Yurt on the North Rim and stay there two nights with a stop over at Phantom Ranch first day to make it more manageable with full backpacks. We stayed in one of the Phantom Ranch cabins and was cool way to enjoy the ranch. Next morning headed out towards the North Rim and the Yurt.

After making our way through the Box we stopped by Ribbon Falls for a break. It was fairly early so no one was there and we had the place to ourselves during the break. Continuing on we passed through Cottonwood Camp and only saw one person camped there....this guy from the Yukon in Canada who last minute decided to hike the canyon. Onward we made the pump house by 1pm. Took good break there and tanked up on water before the long push to the top. The last 5.7 miles of North Kaibab is 3800 feet and really awesome. Only saw 5 people on 14 miles of North Kaibab and nobody after Cottonwood Camp.

We also checked out the Roaring Springs trail on the way to the top which is short side hike. The final push of the trail is relentless but is definitely the coolest section of North Kaibab. The drop offs and terraces below Supai Tunnel keep it interesting the whole time. Once we reached the Supai Tunnel it feels like you should be at the top but there is still over 1500 feet to go. Finally made the North Kaibab TH about 6pm. From there it's only about 1/4 mile to the Yurt on top. Have to say the Yurt is a nice destination when the temps drop on the North Rim. Wood burning stove and shelter from the elements makes the stay a luxury for a backpack.

Next day we decided to take it easy and hike the Widforss Trail on the rim. Sweet views of the rim and The Transept Canyon below. Some snow on the rim but not bad considering what could be post hole conditions for this time of year. After the day hike headed back to the Yurt for another night enjoying the accommodations. Since the North Rim is closed it's really special to have the whole place with no one around. Despite that we ran into the park ranger and chatted with him for about 30 mins. Was interesting to talk with him about various topics of the canyon. We learned that 90% of all canyon rescues are trail runners doing R3. Ran into 2 trail runners after our day hike resting in the North Kaibab parking lot at 3pm that still needed to head back to South Rim. The ranger on his patrol drove by and stopped to check on them giving them a ride to get water at the Backcountry Office and back to the TH. Also learned that the Buffalo up there are really Beefalo cross bred with cows and that they are smart enough to know when hunting season starts and cross over into the park frustrating the hunters.

Next morning we awoke early as we had a big day. Had to hike all the way across the GC from North Rim and up South Kaibab trail. Started at first light 6am and head down North Kaibab. Fortunately we took our time on the trip over so didn't have to stop at any points of interest on the way back. We did stop at the pump house for a snack and tank up on water. Then we pushed it to Phantom Ranch and stopped for lunch...the Tecate went down really smooth :)

From there it was up South Kaibab to the finish. This is a tough trail with a full backpack but still not North Kaibab tough. After spending 2 days on the North Rim side it took some adjustment getting used to seeing all the tourists again near the top of South Rim. Great feeling to look back across the canyon and know that you hiked it in one day :sweat:
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Back in November, I obtained a permit for two nights in the Yurt on the North Rim. Initially the plan was to hike rim to rim both ways. After seeing Phantom Ranch a few weeks prior to the trip, we thought we’d try and get cabin at least on the way in. We had been told that the trick is to keep calling and as close to trip time as possible. The Monday before, I got us bunks in the dorm cabins. On Saturday morning, on our drive to the Grand Canyon, I gave another call and we were able to upgrade to a cabin with a queen size bed and private bathroom!

Day 1
We parked at the Visitor Center and took the bus over to the South Kaibab Trailhead and were hiking at 11:45am. We scurried down to Cedar Ridge to get past the crowds. There was a large group of mule riders resting at Cedar Ridge. As we headed towards Skeleton Point we could see another mule train coming up. We eventually crossed paths and these mules weren’t carrying people just peoples stuff. Those mules are pretty tall, I think I’d be more nervous on one, then just hiking. We got to Tip Off and the area was pretty crowded with people coming and going. There was a group having a lunch break on the steps of the Rest House….you’d have to be pretty tired to eat there! We made it down to Phantom Ranch by 3:30. I tried that Lemmy Lemonade, I’ve read so much about. I’ve never had a more refreshing drink! We had dinner reservations at 5pm, the steak dinner well exceeded expectations, steak, baked potato, peas, corn, salad, corn bread and chocolate cake! We enjoyed Ranger Story Time, took a refreshing shower and got a good night sleep.

Day 2
We had the early breakfast at 5:30, with eggs, bacon, pancakes and peaches. At breakfast we were reading the board that said water was off at the Pumphouse. We listened to the ladies next to us say that the North Rim is closed, so people aren’t doing Rim2Rim2Rim right now... interesting. We started our 14 mile trek up to the North Rim at 7am. The Box was neat. I can only imagine the man hours that went into making the trail with its five bridge crossings and the rock retaining walls. We came across some deer doing their best to blend in. The plan was to check out Ribbon Falls. There was a sign saying “Ribbon Falls via Bridge” so we followed that arrow. It seems like you are going out of the way. You go up quite a bit of elevation and then drop back down to a bridge. Ribbon Falls was impressive, an amazing oasis! We took an unusually long break at the falls, we had it to ourselves and it needed to be savored. Between Ribbon Falls and Cottonwood, we saw the only four other hikers we would see all day. The first guy said there was no water to be had unless you drink out of the creek. He claimed he had been on the North Rim. Then right behind him was a Ranger, who said there would be water at the Pumphouse and up on top. We saw one camper at Cottonwood and he was visiting from the Yukon. He mentioned more than once that he was just trying to keep cool! We arrived at Pumphouse and the mystery was solved, there was drinking water. And the chalkboard had many messages from R2R2Rers, as recent as the prior day. We continued on and took the side trail down to the Roaring Springs Rest house and came upon some more deer.

Now the uphill party started. I knew it was three miles to the Supai Tunnel from Roaring Springs. I assumed my normal uphill pace of a 30 minute mile…so after two hours when Karl offered me a break, I was certain there was no way it is only three miles to the tunnel. We had a nice break at the bridge while a blue bird kept us company. We then crossed the bridge and the well camouflaged switchbacks came in to view. I dragged myself up and finally saw the tunnel. I checked my GPS and realized it is only three miles, and I was starting to drop to a one hour mile! Another break at the tunnel and it was only 1.7 miles to the rim. Would it take me two hours at this pace? Sadly, it almost did. I can conjure up lots of excuses, but I definitely underestimated the North Kaibab Trail. We started to see little patches of snow, and arrived at the Coconino Overlook. I was just beat and barely had the energy for a photo. I really just wanted it to be over. Finally I could see the trailhead. Whew! That is no joke! We decided we had enough water for the night and just headed to the Yurt. It felt wonderful to drop the pack, start up a toasty fire and relax. Once rested I could start beating myself up on my pace and how unimpressive that was, what a buttercup.

Day 3
Rest Day! Karl got up a couple times in the night to put some more wood on the fire, so with a toasty Yurt, we had a relaxing breakfast and enjoyed a cup of coffee. Eventually we headed over to the Back Country Office for water. On the way we ran into the Ranger. He was really friendly and told us some interesting stories and facts. After getting water, we headed out on the Widforss Trail. For this trip, we had purchased crampons, and eventho they weren’t needed, we decided to play with them, since we had carried them all that way! There was enough snow and ice, to test them out. We did encounter some snow up to thigh level. But, pretty much any patch could have been walked around if necessary.

When we returned, a father and son were sitting at the N K Trailhead. They were halfway done with their R2R2R. They asked us about water. They had left a message on the chalkboard at the Pumphouse for the rest of their friends, but didn’t know there was water there. They also didn’t know there was water over at the Back Country Office. They were contemplating the walk or to just wait and get back down to the Pumphouse. It is interesting that they can be in the middle of a 40 plus mile hike, and that extra ¼ mile makes them balk! Luckily the Ranger came by and drove them over to water.

Day 4
Today we would go straight to the South Rim; the Ranger had said to give it 12 hours. We got up early and headed out just before 6 am. By the time we reached Coconino Overlook, we could turn off the headlamps. By the Tunnel, we were taking off the jackets and gloves. The views down to Roaring Springs are just amazing. How they hiked this back in 1928 without the conveniences we have today, is incredible. With the views, you have a solid excuse for just stopping and looking around and adjusting the backpack on the shoulders for a moment.

At the Pumphouse we tanked up and took a mini break. Then as we headed towards Cottonwood Camp and we started seeing people again. The Ranger had said that they were gearing up for Spring Break and we did see several groups of young people.

Pretty much the whole day the only thought going through my head was lemonade, lemonade, lemonade. It is what drove me to Phantom Ranch. Crossing the five bridges seemed to take much longer than necessary. Heading south, the stretch between bridge two and three went on forever. Lemonade, lemonade, lemonade. We sat in the Canteen and we shared a pack lunch. A mother and daughter duo who had just hiked down were also enjoying the lemonade. They weren’t sure if they wanted to believe we had just come from the North Rim, because it is “closed” right now. Plus, we were sitting right next to a chalkboard that said all water to the North Rim was off, and we were claiming it was not. I think we had them convinced we weren’t crazy, right up until we mentioned we had to go, since we needed to hike out. (Because, you don’t hike down and out the same day)

Ok, only seven miles and this 40th Birthday adventure would be over. That’s it. It is all about milestones and nothing to it. Over the black bridge, get to the South Kaibab/River Trail intersection. Easy Peasy up to Tip Off for an actual sit down break. Then a little people watching, to pass the time. It is amazing how many seemed to be carrying nothing, not even water. The switchbacks up to Skeleton Point slow me down, but I knew I could sit again once I got up there. As we sat there, we saw two young guys, in jeans, just carrying their coats. They went over to the edge and were looking at the view. As we headed back up, we shook our heads. “Ah, kids”  Three miles and done, whoo hoo. A quick break at Cedar Ridge, because now, we could smell the top. Off to Ooh Aah Point, and I start to feel over dressed with the pack and all. I counted the switchbacks to get to the top, it passed the time. I plopped down on the bench by the sign, and took a big breath. An agitated man came over and questioned us and why we had big packs and where we came from. Karl said “Trust me, this trail goes to the river.” :) It turns out, his family thought the trail ended at Skeleton Point and it was his sons we saw carrying their coats. It was coming on sunset, and we never saw them coming up behind us. I hope they did turn around at Skeleton and came up shortly, because Mom and Dad were pretty stressed.

I think the reason you are told not to hike Rim to Rim in a day, isn’t because of the physical challenge, but because there is too much to see and enjoy! :y:
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Dave1
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Rim to RimNorthwest, AZ
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Started Sunday morning at 2am to avoid the heat at the bottom. Had plans to do more exploring on the North Rim but the route I drew on RM didn't pan out well in real life so I had to abandon it. Got a "hiker/cycler site" at the North Rim campground ($6). Windy night but only got down to 57 degrees. Got another early start at 3am on Monday to head back to the South Rim. Lots of hikers out in spite of the heat.
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Widforss TrailNorthwest, AZ
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tibber
Hiking4.11 Miles 896 AEG
Hiking4.11 Miles   2 Hrs   21 Mns   2.57 mph
896 ft AEG      45 Mns Break
 
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We arrived the evening before to set up camp for the ABC event at the North Rim Campground of the Grand Canyon. Wendy brot her TajMahal that I was able to stay in and I brot my brand new blow up mattress as well as other amenities for our 4 nite stay. We had the perfect place in the campground as the store and showers were only a hop skip and jump away.

This morning, we planned to do a few different hikes rather than a long one as we both had not been hiking for a few weeks. We decided to do only the Interpretive part of the Widforss Trail. I had done the whole trail back in Sept 2010. (We would later do the Transept/Bright Angel Point Trail before getting lunch at the Lodge Deli).
This is such a nice warm-up type hike though the vistas are limited. There was some wildflowers to keep us entertained and of course, Professor Wendy kindly agreed to read the brochure at each of the stops along the way.

There weren't too many people on the trail. It was a nice day with broken clouds and a slight breeze. We made our way back quickly with very few stops. I had convinced Wendy we should have lunch at the Lodge's Deli and they have some great soft ice cream too.

Here is the 5 minute video: http://youtu.be/7XQU_SMZgtg
Oh, may I suggest you change the quality on youtube to HD1080. You can find that setting next to the minutes just below the video screen (or next to the clock icon)
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Northwest, AZ
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writelots
Hiking4.11 Miles 896 AEG
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896 ft AEG      45 Mns Break
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La la la... Tibber told the tale well enough. I thought this was a very pleasant hike, though not particularly scenic or beautiful for where it was located. I definitely want to make it to the point at the end sometime - but it may be a long time before I get to this one after all the other priorities are addressed.
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