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Jul 27 2019
The_Eagle
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63 male
 Joined Jan 20 2009
 Far NE Phoenix,
Tramway - Maxwell - Willow, AZ 
Tramway - Maxwell - Willow, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jul 27 2019
The_Eagle
Hiking9.48 Miles 2,050 AEG
Hiking9.48 Miles   5 Hrs   44 Mns   1.92 mph
2,050 ft AEG      47 Mns Break12 LBS Pack
 
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We took the Tortoise north to beat 115 of the valley. He'd never been in this area. The views on the Tramway and Maxwell trails, are for sure in my top 10.

Starting on the Tramway Trail, we made our way down to West Clear Creek. I was shocked that prime camp spot at the creek was not occupied.

The travel in and around the creek on the way over to the Maxwell Trail, seems to be getting thicker, but still quite doable. We stayed dry the whole time. We stopped at the petroglyph site to show Denny. The campsite in that area was empty also.

We saw one couple in the creek and a few other groups on the climb out on Maxwell.

We made the short drive over to Willow Crossing. It was getting a tad warm, but the breeze kept it tolerable.

Climbing out of Willow Valley, there was a split in the trail. Joe went one way, Denny and I followed the track. After meeting back up, Joe said he'd found sweet ridgeline. We altered our plans and climbed up to the mesa and down the ridgeline. There were better views of the arch from this perspective. The ridgeline will be added to any future hikes out here.

The planned third hike of the day got taken off the board and was replaced with a drive on some forest roads we'd not been on before.

Good gettin' a hike in with the other 2 stooges again.
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Jul 27 2019
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57 male
 Joined Apr 02 2005
 Mesa, AZ
Tramway - Maxwell - Willow, AZ 
Tramway - Maxwell - Willow, AZ
 
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Tortoise_Hiker
Hiking9.48 Miles 2,050 AEG
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2,050 ft AEG      47 Mns Break
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Bruce and Joe let me join them for a Saturday morning outing.I don’t get out with these gentlemen enough! Cool area that I thought I’d been to before. Maybe when I was younger but not to hike. Enjoyable hike and these two always make it fun! Thanks gents, you rock!
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Jul 27 2019
joebartels
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49 male
 Joined Nov 20 1996
 Phoenix, AZ
Tramway - Maxwell - Willow - Pie, AZ 
Tramway - Maxwell - Willow - Pie, AZ
 
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joebartels
Hiking11.61 Miles 3,374 AEG
Hiking11.61 Miles   6 Hrs   50 Mns   1.95 mph
3,374 ft AEG      52 Mns Break12 LBS Pack
 
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Tramway Maxwell Loop
Canyon views are the highlight. Crossover along the creek is typically a sauna since this hike usually comes to mind when the mercury is pinging inferno. Walking the creek would undoubtedly be more enjoyable than sweating the forested banks. Stubborn won(?) and stayed dry!

Bruce had it in his mind the ascent up Maxwell is gradual. We took a break midway up gradual =)

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Great add-on hike if in the area. That said I know I like it more than most so don't expect much... Pines on the rolling terrain are the highlight for myself.

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Only 106 out so I got in a lap at the promise land too.
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May 14 2019
GeeEss
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 Joined Jan 10 2014
 Fountain Hills,
Tramway Trail #32Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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GeeEss
Hiking2.60 Miles 825 AEG
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This was a whole new area to explore for us and really different from our usual destinations. Tough drive in after so much precip these last few months, but the trail, while not easy, provides a wonderful way down along a steep slope and treacherous terrain. And it's impossible to not be absolutely gobsmacked by the scenery. Lots of water at the bottom, which has been subjected to some very impressive, recent flooding. I am guessing there used to be some manner of trail near the creek, not so much any more. Still, even with the high water level, it was possible to cross the creek in a couple spots while managing to stay high and dry. The petroglyph site is about as impressive as any we had seen, the sheer quantity of glyphs here is staggering. Good times!
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May 10 2019
OdinWiski
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 Joined Jan 31 2015
 Chandler, AZ
Tramway Maxwell LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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OdinWiski
Backpack9.46 Miles 1,205 AEG
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We haven't been out for a while between traveling and other commitments. Wanted to do a short overnighter with some water features. This one fit the bill nicely. A few years ago when I hiked this one, I dropped down from Maxwell. This time we took the other side after parking at the fork and road hiking to the Tramway TH.

The big views overlooking the canyon and the creek in either direction on top of Tramway were great. And so were a few views on the way down. Once at the bottom, we took a snack break and explored a whole bunch before continuing through the canyon toward Maxwell. It was lush and green along the creek. Some sections were pretty overgrown and bushwhacking was not fun. At one point, we decided to wade through the creek instead. The water was refreshing at first but soon started to feel cold. We got to the camp site near the bottom of Maxwell and set up camp there. It was a wonderful camp site with no one around. Two day hikers were all we saw earlier and for the rest of our time there. We then explored farther out before dinner. Sleeping right next to the babbling creek was wonderful!

The next morning we took our time getting up and breaking down camp. When we worked our way up Maxwell, the weather was great. Once we got on top though, as we were hiking the road, it got really dark quickly. Then hail sizes of small marbles poured down. And lightning and cracking thunders felt pretty close. It didn't seem like it would pass any time soon. We put on our rain gear and kept hiking back to our truck in the rain, hail and mud. It was a wonderful time!
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Jul 24 2016
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 Joined Mar 29 2007
 Reno, NV
Tramway Trail #32Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Hiking4.70 Miles 1,061 AEG
Hiking4.70 Miles   4 Hrs   10 Mns   1.13 mph
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Tanya's dissertation was done and defended (with minor revisions!) on Monday, and Lilah has now grown big enough to fit in her baby backpack, so it was time to finally get the family out on a good hike together. And what better place to do that than West Clear Creek. I parked the CR-V where 81E meets 693, and the road was fine to that point. A couple rough spots where there's been some recent mud, but nothing it couldn't handle. Then we started road walking (yes!!!) down towards Tramway Trail. The first couple miles were warm and breezy, and the descent was getting a little toasty, which is perfect for jumping into that creek. Rincon led the way into the water, and we found a nice shallow spot to let Lilah sit down and enjoy it too. She had a good time watching all the minnows swim around us. We lazed around for a couple hours, taking turns swimming and waiting for the sun to get lower. I shouldered the baby and Tanya shouldered the water and food and out we went. The ascent was much nicer, due to some clouds and more shade. Great day out!
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Jul 24 2016
PrestonSands
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41 male
 Joined Apr 12 2004
 Oro Valley, AZ
Tramway Trail #32Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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PrestonSands
Hiking2.30 Miles 880 AEG
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Spent the weekend camping with friends on the Rim, and I suggested that we hike in to see the petroglyphs in West Clear Creek on Sunday. Five of us made the bumpy drive out to the trailhead mid day and started down the Tramway Trail. The greenery was incredible, just a paradise to behold. We waded and worked our way up the creek to the petroglyph site, and stopped to explore. I had forgotten how many there were. Back at the bottom of the trail, I went for a refreshing swim, and we ran into SBKelley and his wife Tanya. Nice folks! Our truck got high centered on the drive out, so we did some fancy rock stacking to extricate ourselves. Great hike with good friends!
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Jul 09 2016
chumley
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 Joined Sep 18 2002
 Tempe, AZ
Tramway Maxwell LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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chumley
Hiking11.46 Miles 1,192 AEG
Hiking11.46 Miles   6 Hrs   38 Mns   2.25 mph
1,192 ft AEG   1 Hour   32 Mns Break
 
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Looking for a short day trip to cool off in the clear water of WCC we decided on the Tramway Maxwell Loop. Knowing this was an ideal summer hike for pups, I decided to dognap Cup and Blanco and give them a little exercise in the woods.

Turned out to be a great day. The WCC portion of the trail was more overgrown than I remember with less of a developed route to follow. Especially upstream of Maxwell. But once we reached Willow, there was a surprisingly good use trail most of the way. I actually found this area of canyon to be much more scenic and interesting than the upper WCC part. I'll have to come back and try the loop from farther up that hits the cold swimmers.

There was a lot of algae on the rocks and underwater footing was as slippery as I can ever remember it being. And Willow has a ton of poison ivy. Rumor has it 9L is currently working on his 14th application of Tecnu since arriving home! :)
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Jul 09 2016
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 Joined Dec 24 2007
 Ahwatukee, AZ
Tramway Maxwell LoopPayson, AZ
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LindaAnn
Hiking11.71 Miles 1,198 AEG
Hiking11.71 Miles   6 Hrs   42 Mns   2.27 mph
1,198 ft AEG   1 Hour   32 Mns Break
 
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I had one free day this weekend, and Chumley invited me to join in on a hike to WCC. I hadn't done the Tramway-Maxwell loop in more than ten years, so I was happy to tag along.

It was a warm hike from the road down to the creek, so as soon as I saw water, I was happy to jump in. It was not nearly as cold as I expected it to be. Good thing too, because there was plenty of time spent wading through the water on this one. The vegetation was very overgrown--more so than I could ever remember seeing down there. We made our way through the brush, and the creek when necessary. Even though the rocks were very slick, with poles, I thought it was easier to walk through the water than the brush.

After a stop for lunch, we headed up Willow. I thought the scenery in Willow was great, and the path was better. At times, it felt like walking through marshland, and was very easy to get through. We passed a few small caves/alcoves that looked like they would be great places to camp. I think Chumley aimed to walk through every patch of poison ivy in the canyon, maybe just to see if we'd follow him though it.

We found some slightly better paths in a few places on the way back to Maxwell. The climb out felt harder than I expected it to be--maybe because my shoes were soaked through, and each step I took felt like I had a five pound weight attached to each ankle.

Fun day, and perfect weather to spend down in the creek. And it was nice to run into Joe & Bruce at the gas station in Payson--nice to meet both of you!
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Jul 09 2016
John9L
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Tramway Maxwell LoopPayson, AZ
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John9L
Hiking11.46 Miles 1,192 AEG
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Nice day out in WCC. The canyon never disappoints and this was another wonderful trip.
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Aug 15 2015
joebartels
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49 male
 Joined Nov 20 1996
 Phoenix, AZ
Tramway Maxwell LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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joebartels
Hiking7.00 Miles 1,532 AEG
Hiking7.00 Miles   3 Hrs   40 Mns   2.40 mph
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Shockingly haven't been out here in 4 years. Love the area. The creek whacking wasn't so much enjoyable as it was pretty muggy. Better than the record highs in the Valley!
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Not the Browneyed Susan show from yesteryears. Some nice Mexican Silene.
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The_Eagle
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63 male
 Joined Jan 20 2009
 Far NE Phoenix,
Maxwell-Tramway Loop, AZ 
Maxwell-Tramway Loop, AZ
 
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The_Eagle
Hiking7.20 Miles 1,456 AEG
Hiking7.20 Miles   3 Hrs   42 Mns   2.26 mph
1,456 ft AEG      31 Mns Break14 LBS Pack
 
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I don't repeat loops very often. This is the third time I've done this one. It's a drop dead gorgeous area.

With the threatening rain, I parked about a bit farther this time. These roads get real slick when wet.

Surprise of the day, was seeing nobody in the canyon.

Temps ranged from 75 to 85, with the 75 being when we finished. The humidity in West Clear Creek was brutal.

Like Arnold... I'll be back.
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Jul 11 2015
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 Chandler, AZ
Tramway Maxwell LoopPayson, AZ
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OdinWiski
Hiking10.30 Miles 1,171 AEG
Hiking10.30 Miles   5 Hrs   48 Mns   2.58 mph
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Not far past Payson on 87N, traffic was detoured (not sure why). All traffic was directed onto a residential dirt road with cars going both north and south. We got stuck there not moving for a good 45 minutes at least. I got out of the vehicle and walked 200 yards out to see what was going on. A car towing a U-Haul trailer was blocking the southbound traffic and I think people were saying a truck towing a big hay trailer coming south took up too much room so the northbound cars couldn't get by?? Well, I saw both and there was plenty of room/clearance for both directions to be moving! I don't know why people were stopping?!!

Finally got out of the jam. I started hiking at 10:30. The hike was beautiful and made up for the aggravation from the traffic jam. The blue skies, puffy clouds and nice breeze made the hike on the otherwise bland FR318 nice. As I started dropping down on Maxwell Trail, the beautiful canyon and bold crags came into view. Once at the bottom of the canyon, going along West Clear Creek through the lush riparian zones and reeds surrounded by huge crags was beautiful and very enjoyable. The climb up on Tramway Trail was beautiful too. I was able to take in more great views looking back down at the huge canyon walls and west where the creek continues to flow. I heard a couple and their dog in the canyon and saw their sign-out on the TH register at Tramway TH. Another great day of beautiful scenery and solitude :)
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 Phoenix, AZ
Tramway Maxwell LoopPayson, AZ
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Tough_Boots
Hiking10.60 Miles 1,500 AEG
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Somehow things ended up falling into place and we got the gang together for some fun creek time in West Clear Creek. Four hikers and three dogs-- we were a force to be reckoned with today. Some unsuccessful fishing happened. The dogs had a blast. We went down the Maxwell Trail, hiked just past the Point Trail, backtracked, and went up the Tramway. Wet times were had by all.
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May 30 2015
John9L
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Tramway Maxwell LoopPayson, AZ
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John9L
Hiking10.60 Miles 1,500 AEG
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Met up with the group for a fun hike in West Clear Creek. I've hiked this area before via the Point Trail. This was my first time on these trails and it was quite the adventure.

We left Tempe around 7am and made our way north with two vehicles. The drive took a fair amount of time but wasn't two bad. We turned off Lake Mary Rd and followed some forest roads back for WCC. We parked at the top of the loop of the official route. We would start and end our time hiking on the road.

The first two miles flew by as we breezed down the forest road. Before long we hit the Maxwell Trail and started our descent down. The trail is steep but in good condition overall. Once at the creek we headed downstream and had to get our feet wet. The going was very chill and enjoyable. I saw several patches of poison ivy and tried to avoid it. I cleaned up with Tecnu so we'll see if I catch any.

We headed downstream and passed the Tramway Trail. We continued down and made our way to the Point Trail where we checked out the weeping wall and then started the return. The going was very easy and everyone was having a lot of fun especially the dogs! We hit the Tramway Trail and then climbed up the route. There are a few steep sections with some step like rocks to climb up. Lots of fun! Once back on the rim we followed the road back to the cars and then made the return to Phoenix.

This was another really fun hike with a great group. West Clear Creek is such a treat when the temps hit three digits in Phoenix. The trek in the creek is so much fun and the dogs had a wonderful time! Thanks to Chumley and Lee for driving and thanks to Kyle just because!
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May 30 2015
chumley
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 Joined Sep 18 2002
 Tempe, AZ
Tramway Maxwell LoopPayson, AZ
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chumley
Hiking10.06 Miles 1,241 AEG
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For quite some time now, Clairebear has been pushing for us to all visit her namesake--West Claire Creek. And now I know why! What a special place!

The roads getting back there are pretty rutted due to the snow a couple of weeks ago, so that made for an entertaining drive in. Claire was quite calm the one time that FOTGs kayak decided it wanted to pass us on the right. :o

We considered doing a shuttle, but with all the people and dogs it was going to be a challenge to fit in one vehicle. In retrospect, the road to the Tramway trail is so bad in many places that it's probably faster to just hike it!

Had a good time and somehow ended up with over 10 miles on the day. A pleasant surprise was the cloud cover which hid the sun most of the day, including on our hike out which was much appreciated. I'll have to come back here with somebody who actually knows how to fish. ;)

HAZ Tracks Note: In the canyon where our Garmins had several instances of jumping around and adding all kinds of unnecessary mileage, HAZ Tracks stayed remarkably accurate, with only slight jumps when the signal was lost due to obstructions. Whatever the algorithm to prevent those stray points is, it works exponentially better than whatever Garmin does.
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May 30 2015
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 Tempe, AZ
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Hiking10.60 Miles 1,500 AEG
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West Clear Creek is one of the most beautiful places!
Its such a bummer that I didn't bring a camera.
Everyone else got to play tourist ! :)

The day went by really quickly. And then we had Del Taco.
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 Peoria, AZ
Avocado CanyonPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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desert_boonie
Canyoneering5.50 Miles 800 AEG
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Finally we got ourselves over to this little less done canyon on the northern side of WCC. Mike and I met up with Pam in the morning who had already spent the night up there on Friday. She told us how the night was and how the roads seemed to look. The road in all the way to the Tramway TH didn't bother me one bit as I had my new toy to play with. But it is a rocky unmaintained path and for those without clearance should not even try to get there. Rain on the way out made it so much fun. :)

The canyon itself it pretty short, hardly any water in it at all, I don't think we got our feet wet until we reached WCC. We did all 5 rappels which made the day great. At the base of the second rappel in what would normally be a shallow pool, Mike found a gear bundle that had probably been underwater for some time. Too bad he cannot use any of it. Some amazing views towards the exit as you start to see where WCC is. The last rappel of this canyon was the best, and would be amazing if you could ever do it with some running water down the wall.

Into WCC and now for the hardest part of the day. Getting back to the Tramway trail. The skies above us started to get dark and sure enough it was Groundhog Day again. Pouring rain on us while in WCC. I swear every summer this has happened to us, but it's all good. Once up the Tramway trail we were offered some amazing views as the clouds rolled over the canyon, some lightning in the distance gave us a thrill. Pam got back up just as it was about to rain again so she did a quick change and off we went back out. Man that rocky muddy road was fun.

Another good adventure in the books.
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Avocado CanyonPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Canyoneering5.50 Miles 800 AEG
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2nd Time is a Charm...Last Summer Ken and I tried to do this Canyon, but with several Snafus in the Morning, we finally deemed it too late to start...Fate must have been smiling down on us the whole time, as within 20 minutes of our Decision, the Skies opened up and dumped at least 2" of Rain and Hail on the Area....

It was time to try for this one again.... :D Ken and Mike picked me up Saturday Morning in Ken's Brand New, Shiny Clean, Jeep Rubicon...It wouldn't stay that way long...It was time to see what that Puppy could do! :DANCE: :sweat: Glad we had it, I don't think I would even have attempted driving to the Tramway TH in my Escape, even if it was Dry...Pretty Rough Stuff... :o

I don't know why more people haven't done this Canyon...It was a Sweet little Canyon and the Approach is one of the smoothest and fastest I've ever done...We were in Avocado in no time and looking at the first Rappel shortly after...You can bypass the 1st and 2nd Rappels, but why? The 2nd Rappel especially was really sweet...Avocado is known as a "Dry" Canyon compared to others in WCC, but we still expected to get a little Wet, as there was normally a Chest Deep Wader at the bottom of the 2nd Rappel...Just another indication of how Dry of a Year we've had, as that Bowl was Bone Dry...As Ken said, we never got our Feet Wet until we hit WCC....Judging from the Rains that came after we were done though, I would say that that Canyon is no longer THAT Dry... :sweat:

We hit WCC and took a Break...I tried to fix some Hot Spots on my Left Foot, (@!#$%&!!! Boots) but it wasn't to be and we pressed on soon after...WCC was beautiful as always with Cool, Clear Water and Wildflowers starting to come out in Full Force...With that said, the Creek can also be beautifully brutal when you are trying to get somewhere and there's not much Trail...The First 1 1/2 Miles had very little Trail to follow, so the Slipping, Sliding, Falling and intense Bushwacking commenced...It took us right at 2 hours to get to the Point Trail... :sweat: But from there, WCC relented and we had good Trail almost the whole way to the Tramway Turnoff with just a few Creek/Bushwacking Adventures...We did that Section in less than half the Time...

At the Junction with Tramway, one of my Knees was feeling a bit stiff, so I told the Guys, (who were really smelling the Beer right about then) to go on up and I'd get there in a bit...I took a Break, imbibed in some Advil and an Oxygen Stick and recharged the Legs a little bit...And then it was time for the Climb out...I actually prefer these Steep, straight up Trails, to ones that meander on up forever...A little more Taxing, but it's over quicker as well... :sweat: As I climbed, I was really starting to smell Smoke and when I got some Elevation, I noticed that the WCC below me was getting very Hazy...Apparently there was a Fire somewhere to the West of us...I wasn't too worried as it had been Raining on us on and off through WCC and it was really threatening to unload now...I topped out, and had just enough time to get out of my Wet Clothes before the Skies really opened up...Ken had a lot of fun on the Drive out... :D

Just another Great Canyon with Great Company in an area that I love...Pretty hard to beat a Day like that... 8)
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Point Trail - West Clear CreekPayson, AZ
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This was a last minute trip and first of the year to WCC. With the fire restrictions already in place, there were few campers along FR144, 149, and 142 on the way into the trailhead. Made good time and reached my campsite by 11. Spent the day fishing and hiking upstream to the Maxwell trail was my turn around point. I caught 6 small browns on a rooster tail, about the only thing I could throw in this wind... It was a chilly night with no fire to be sure. Very surprised that I saw only day hikers on Saturday that came down the Tramway trail, and no one else until the hike out Sunday with more day hikers down at the Point.
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