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Nov 28 2020
kyleGChiker
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Peters Trail #105Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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kyleGChiker
Hiking15.01 Miles 2,849 AEG
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Our goal for this hike was to make it all the way to Peter's Mesa, but unfortunately, that didn't quite happen. The first difficulty encountered was the road. Unless you have a very capable 4WD vehicle, and I emphasize *very capable*, you should plan to hike the 3 miles from Apache Trail (AZ-88) to the inner Tortilla Trailhead. Another way of looking at it is that the trailhead is right off AZ-88, not 3 miles in. We were driving our 4WD Chevy Suburban that day, but there was no way I was going to attempt that road. To give some other anecdotal evidence, another gentleman in a Land Rover appeared confident at first ("I've taken this Land Rover all across the country three times; I can give you a ride if you want") to very quickly putting it in reverse and going back down ("there's no way I'm doing that!"). A Toyota 4Runner made it up the first of four major obstacles, then parked. At the very top of the road, there were only two vehicles, one ATV and one Toyota 4Runner (appeared to be a stock ~2008 model).

The hike itself was quite nice, with scenic views all the way around. There were even some nice fall leaves in the first canyon when starting out. We were pleased with our progress, and upon reaching Kane Spring and Indian Spring so quickly (they both had water), we continued up the steep climb to the ridge, then down on the other side. We made it all the way to where the trail turns north to go to Peter's Mesa, then decided we should have our lunch and turn around for the day. Another time, we'll have to connect the dots, just to say we've done it. :lol:

I like how accessible Kane/Indian springs are, and could definitely see using them as a great starting point for a multi-day trip in the future.

Lastly, to finish out the JF trail we had hiked most of earlier in the year, we hiked up about 0.75 miles up to the junction with the Hoolie Bacon trail. Nothing much exciting up there, but it helped mentally to put together the scenery and that trail section to form a better mental map/image of the area.

Overall, I'd rate this trail a solid 8/10. The scenery just keeps improving the further you go. Of course, being a typical Supes trail, it's often narrow with catclaw and cactus lining it. Not to mention sometimes being overgrown with grass and so faint it's a challenge to follow. But I feel like that kind of just comes with the territory! If you've got extensive hiking experience, you'll have no issues following the trail, but a novice, or someone who only hikes on very well defined trails could get lost easily. Make sure you take your maps (paper and digital) and compass!

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Indian Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Flowing pretty good.

dry Indian Spring Number One Dry Dry
If I recall, this is the one off trail a little to the east. I didn't go looking for it, but there was no water along the trail on in the drainages.

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There wasn't much, but there was enough to filter from. Indian Spring had much better and more abundant water this time.
Jan 21 2020
wallyfrack
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Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
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wallyfrack
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I took off work and hiked onto the Supes. Tuesday rained more than expected so we hung out in Jake's cave. Wednesday was nice and we explored the area around Peters Mesa. Thursday was relatively warm and we hiked out. The trails were busier than I expected and Peralta Trailhead was full. There was work being done on Peralta road when we left.
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Dec 07 2019
wallyfrack
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Peter's MesaPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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wallyfrack
Hiking20.75 Miles 3,279 AEG
Hiking20.75 Miles   8 Hrs   33 Mns   2.43 mph
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To Charlebois and beyond. The forecast was perfect for a long hike. No need to start before sun up as the temps would be good all day. I saw Andy at the trailhead so I hiked with him to Black Top Mesa and we caught up on trail talk. We parted ways on Bull Pass as I was going on to Charlebois. Once there I couldn't stop so it was on to Peters Mesa. :lol: I saw a white-tailed doe on the mesa and stopped for a snack. The fire did burn the brush up there and the trail is tough to follow but the area will come back. The hike out went pretty fast with light traffic, water flowing and perfect hiking weather. Great day to be on the trail.
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Miners Needle Music Canyon
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Jan 27 2019
Walworthjordyn
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Peter's MesaPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Walworthjordyn
Hiking14.00 Miles 2,366 AEG
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First try down to the actual trail head did not work out, so started from the road. Would have loved to explore the mesa a little more. But there was barely any water the day we hiked this. So much solitude, we did not see a single person on Peter's trail. Relatively easy to follow but still over grown in some areas.

I would love to explore taking the mesa down into Dutchman or La Barge Canyon. This hike inspired the future route to tortilla mountain.
Nov 15 2017
wallyfrack
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wallyfrack
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Time to kick it up a notch but the cloud cover was light so I returned a little early. I ran into Jack Carlson & Steve Bowser about 4 miles in on Peters trail but no other hikers or hunters all day. Only one doe crossed my path this time but the hike was enjoyable. Peters trail is a little overgrown. Just enough brush to deter the casual hikers. :D I drank 4 quarts and probably could have used another for the drive home. The traffic in and out of Tortilla flat was light so weekday hikes are good out this wayif you have a day off.
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Feb 14 2017
Mr_Squishy
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Peter's MesaPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Mr_Squishy
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I left the Tortilla 2WD TH early Monday morning intending to ride my mountain bike to the 4WD TH, but a flat tire ended that dream prematurely, so I stashed it off the road. Arrived at the 4WD TH where the new sign directed me onto the trail which is in excellent shape. When I got to where the trail heads up to the mesa from Peter's Creek, I investigated Upper Peter's Canyon for about .8 miles, but the brush got thick and it appeared the Upper Peter's Canyon Loop would be slow going. So I returned to the trail and hiked up to the mesa. I found a trickle of water and many pools below the unnamed spring up on top. I enjoyed a spectacular sunset, then crawled into my sleeping bag for a cowboy camp night. A brief shower gave me a bit of a scare, but the clouds cleared off for a beautiful night. Upon returning to the Peter's Creek trail crossing, I noted something unusual half floating in a pool. It was the viscera of some unknown small animal. And that's why we filter our water in the Superstitions! Despite the volume of water in the creeks, I was able to complete both the in and out sections of the hike without getting wet feet. I retrieved my bike on the return, then joined the parade of tourists on SR88 returning to AJ.The trail is in excellent shape and I thank those have appear to have recently brushed it.
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Peters Canyon Light flow Light flow
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Dec 24 2014
wallyfrack
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Peter's MesaPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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wallyfrack
Hiking15.65 Miles 3,325 AEG
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I wanted to get back to Sheep Mountain Spring and see if there was anything of interest there. This area is difficult to get to and I've been close a few times but turned back due to lack of time etc. I finally made it there and crawled through the growth where the spring is supposed to be and found nothing. No water, no trough, no cairns, no cans, no kidding. There was a story about a miner who was located in the area and I usually find rusty cans almost everywhere but none today. The goods news was I hiked in and out without seeing another person. If you want solitude then this is the place. If you want water then don't bother. The section of Peters Trail from Tortilla trailhead to Kane Spring was in excellent shape. Someone trimmed all the growth back a day or two ago. The section past Kane Spring to where I went up on Peters Mesa was also trimmed. The trail is narrow as usual here but still easy to hike.
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Sheep Mountain Spring

dry Sheep Mountain Spring Dry Dry
unable to find any water
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Dec 20 2014
friendofThundergod
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Central Supes Loop, AZ 
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This was just a nice relaxing three day back pack to kick off my holiday break. I went in Bluff Springs at Peralta to the Dutchman, Peter's Trail and Tortilla TH, back JF to Woodbury, and Coffee Flats across to Dutchman and completion of loop at Peralta.

On day one I hiked in with Jim but detoured to summit Bluff Mountain with Chumley and some of his most loyal followers. The trails were littered with HAZers, met one in parking lot who was very happy to finally meet Blanco and Cup. Then I ran into hikerdw and his son as is custom with most of my Supes hikes. It was nice to finally summit Bluff Mountain. The views were great and the weather proved nearly perfect. I said my good bye to the slackpackers and headed for my first nights camp, near Charlebois. I generally just relaxed most of the day, caught up with Jim, read a bunch and went to bed pretty early.

I left camp a little later then I should of but I was in no real rush Saturday, nor had any concrete plans. Peter's Trail has certainly seen better days. JF seemed like a highway after Peters, camped near Mullin Spring with some minor exploring in the area planned for day three before heading back to TH. It got real cold on the second night. The water in dog's dishes froze all my gear had a heavy frost/ice coating in morning and my leaky air mattress were no match for myself, Cupcake and half of Blanco; the ground got very cold very fast.

I had more ambitious plans for the final day, but they would have been pretty rough on Cup and I need her ready to go back out by Wed. So I opted for the leisurely exit via Coffee Flats Trail and the very scenic Fraser and Randolph Canyons. One can't go wrong with Randolph and Fraser Canyons this time of year, very scenic. I did do some early morning exploring of the headwaters of Tortilla Creek and Mullin Spring. Very tough going in spots, no big finds, but intrigued by area.
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Kane Spring

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Clover Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
significant pools and small flow in area marked as Clover Spring

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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Kane Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
clean clear water and full
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Mar 03 2012
johnlp
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Cottonwood Canyon, AZ 
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Hiking21.37 Miles 4,954 AEG
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Wanted to see the cowboy dam in Peters Canyon that Dave1 and I missed during our February hike. I also wanted to check out Cottonwood Canyon north of Peters Mesa/Canyon. Took Bluff Springs trail to the Dutchman to Peters trail up to Peters Mesa. Went off trail from there to the cowboy dam, and over to and up Cottonwood Canyon. I started up towards Tortilla Mountain but ran out of time and energy to make it all the way there, Very steep rough terrain. I came back down the next canyon to the east of Cottonwood. I climbed some stuff going up Cottonwood I didn't want to go back down if I could avoid it. Once I got back down into Peters Canyon, I went south up the creek bed to an intersection with Peters trail. I found another cowboy dam in the creek bed just north of Peters trail. Interesting hike. Nice weather, although very cold in the early AM - windy. Wild flowers seem to be waning a bit.
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Jan 21 2012
johnlp
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Peter's MesaPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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johnlp
Hiking24.77 Miles 4,770 AEG
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Hiked to Peters Mesa from Peralta trailhead via Dutchman and Peters trails. Climbed up Black Mountain then hiked east across Peters Canyon and a ways up Cottonwood Canyon. Lots to explore here but not enough time. Worth a return trip or two. Saw three groups of backpackers while returning on the Dutchman including Wendy, whose group had a spot along LaBarge Creek. Nice to meet you Wendy. Wild flowers are starting to bloom.
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Dec 31 2011
wallyfrack
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Peter's MesaPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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wallyfrack
Hiking19.80 Miles 3,750 AEG
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I had time to fit one more hike it this year. I decided to go back and do some off trail exploring around Peter's Mesa. I had the Jeep apart so I took the car and had to walk FR 213. I made good time on the road and headed up Peter's trail. There was a lot of water on the trail but only one area where you need to reroute to stay dry. Peter's trail is in ok condition for the first 3 miles and then the fun begins. There are enough agave stalks, prickly pear, cholla, catclaw, ankle twisters (aka rocks) and general overgrowth to keep you entertained for hours. Just when you think the fun will never end you get to Peter's Mesa. I went off trail and hiked up the high side to look around. I didn't find must junk up there but it was new ground and has nice views. On the loop back to the trail I found a hard hat, a coffee mug, pots & pans, old chairs and junk. I didn't see anybody on the trail and then finally saw 3 hikers as I was hiking back on FR213. As I was pulling out I almost ran into Suz in her Q45 but figured I lose on that one so I moved.
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Nov 16 2011
CannondaleKid
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Peter's MesaPhoenix, AZ
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CannondaleKid
Hiking10.30 Miles 1,969 AEG
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Last time I attempted this hike was 2 days short of exactly a year ago. Unfortunately the vehicle I had back then was not able to get past the slick rock shelves at the beginning of the road to the Tortilla TH so the hike to the TH turned out to be longer than the distance I hiked on Peter's Trail. But this year with my Samurai being more than capable we easily climbed even the worst of the shelves and took a leisurely drive out to the TH.
With a few minutes to load up my pack with all the things we may need so Tracey could hike with just a fanny pack we were off and hiking shortly after 8 am. With the temp at 46 degrees we started the hike wearing long sleeves but once into the climb a few miles out they were no longer needed. After a few miles, although the terrain was relatively open there were plenty of various thorn bushes that made things a bit unpleasant. Once over the pass and heading down into the canyon the heavy, thorny brush got downright nasty and for a 2 mile stretch I spent almost as much time clipping a path through the thorns as I did hiking. As we turned left to climb up to Peter's Mesa it wasn't quite as bad so we made a bit better time. Almost exactly at noon (halfway through our intended available daylight hiking time) we arrived at the eastern-most point I reached last year when hiking from First Water and back. We hoped to go another mile+ to check out a water/Gatorade cache I left last year but it would have been quite some distance downhill and back up for well over an hour so we turned around and headed back.
When we got back tot he area where the brush had been bad, we decided to try sticking to the wash as far as possible instead. It worked out quite well, well enough to the point we made it back to the TH almost an hour earlier than expected. But once back, the more I thought about it, we probably could have cruised through the brush just as fast if not faster since I had spent so much time trimming on the way out. No matter, by staying in the wash 95% of the trip through the lower canyon we saw things from a different perspective.

Oh yes, in the wash Tracey spotted a fox and with just a dead-pan will you look at that? she barely caught my attention to point it out, so although we both got a chance to see it I had no time to take a picture and Tracey was enthralled enough that it was enough to see it and no need to take a picture. While we will always have that memory, it's kind of hard to share it with others that way. Oh well, at least we have the memory. And that was the full extent of wildlife encountered on the hike.

Overall another hike with great views but the experience would be vastly improved with a healthy dose of trail maintenance.
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Marsh Valley LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Mr_Squishy
Backpack28.00 Miles 3,540 AEG
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I hiked in from the Canyon Lake TH on the Boulder Canyon Trail 103; when it crosses LaBarge Creek, I turned left and followed LaBarge all the way to its intersection with Marsh Valley. It was my first time through the Box and it was magnificent!! I saw two frogs among other critters in the Box. I also saw two hikers up on the summit of Battleship Mtn. Bravo! LaBarge after the Box involves a bit of bushwacking until you reach Cavalry.
I camped in the Marsh Valley area, Monday and Tuesday nights, finding small pools of water.
Tuesday, I day hiked up to Black Mtn via Cavalry to Lost Dutchman to Peter's trails, out and back. I saw a white tail deer in the Black Mtn area.
Wednesday, I returned via Cavalry Tr to Boulder Canyon TR to LaBarge Creek, then back to Boulder Canyon Tr for last little bit. Someone had flagged the connector trail from LaBarge back up to the Boulder Canyon Trail with orange surveyor tape.
A superb trip and beautiful country.
Water: isolated pools in lower LaBarge, running in the Box, isolated pools in upper LaBarge, plenty near Charlebois Spring, small pool on Peter's Mesa where trail crossed a small drainage just before it drops down to Lost Dutchman Tr.
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Peter's MesaPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking17.70 Miles 2,366 AEG
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Hiked from the 2wd parking off SR88 to Peter's Mesa area on Tuesday. Nice weather the entire hike, overcast with light drizzle off and on. We had lunch on the old stone dam in Peter's Canyon just past Peter's Trail, then made the trek up to the Mesa area. I wanted to go a little further but I was dealing with a brusied foot so we decided to turn around.
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Peter's Pass from Tortilla THPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking12.80 Miles 1,989 AEG
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Having hiked out to a point roughly in the center of Peter's Mesa from the First Water TH last month (a 21.5 mile trek) I figured I'd hike to the same point from the other end this time.

Unfortunately I don't yet have a true 4x4 to drive in to the Tortilla TH. While my CR-V has the tallest oversize off-road tires that can fit in the wheel well providing decent ground clearance (albeit with intermittent inner fender contact) and it has All-Wheel-Drive, in reality it's front-wheel drive until losing traction when the rears kick in, but only until the moment traction returns and it's back to fronts only. So in iffy situations it ends up with a bucking effect, tearing up the tread on the front tires along the way. Yes, I know, it's time to get serious and get a true 4x4.

Anyway, after a quick recon of the "road" I realized there was no way I was going to tear up my tires and likely the undercarriage to avoid an extra 6 miles of hiking, especially since I was solo and thus had no "spotter" to help. So I set off on foot for the trail head. What I thought was going to be a great day for photos turned out to be very hazy from lots of dust, likely coming from the Apache Trail road repair going on just a few miles up the way. But no matter, I didn't let that stop me from snapping some washed out shots. (No, I don't believe in using software to improve my shots, they are what they are.)

When I arrived at Tortilla TH all I found was an shot-up old water tower, old windmill shot up even worse (and thus destroyed), the expected empty case of Bud Light (I think Budweiser should kick in trail clean-up funds to offset the damage their customers do, but that's another subject) and all the brush around the trail head burned off. By the looks of it I believe the Forest Service did a small controlled burn.

Ok, time to really hit the trail. First it's into Tortilla Creek with all the expected rock hopping for more than I cared to deal with today, then up through dense brush with plenty of thorny growth to grab you every step of the way. But having read the previous trip logs I was prepared with my trimming shears, and proceeded to trim the worst of the growth to allow easy passage. As much as there was it did put a crimp on my normal hiking pace but it sure paid off dividends by cutting the return trip time in half.

On the way I welcomed the variety and amount of beautiful scenery, to the point I will be back more than a few times for off-trail exploring in a number of areas that caught my eye. Once to the pass I realized if I continued on to reach the farthest east point of last month's hike it would likely add another 2-3 hours and 700-1,000' more AEG so I decided I'd take a break and grab some sustenance, take a few off-trail excursions from the saddle and then begin the trek back out to the car. At the saddle next to a rudimentary rock wall I came across more trash from inconsiderate folks... seems nowadays there is more and more of this than every before. Sad!

Setting out on the trip out now that I had a relatively cat's-claw-free trail I kept a very brisk pace, catching views from a different standpoint along the way. I didn't mind hiking the road out other than it would have been nice to have the extra two hours for hiking on the trail itself.

I've been more curious than anything on my 4x4 hunting up 'til now so maybe it's time to get serious. But I'm particular... I'm not buying anything new or late model... too much weight with all the bells and whistles, power windows, sunroofs, etc. and I'm not a fan of the later Jeeps (reliability ain't like it used to be) so an old 4 cyl Toyota 4Runner or pickup has risen to the top of my list. I used to have 200,000+ mile, well-worn 2WD Tacoma pickup that held up like a tank that I only sold to get something that could hold more than two people but that's no longer a priority. But wanting to get into more of the less-accessible trails it's time to get the right equipment. Just like Teva Terra-Fi's for hiking, ya just gotta have the right stuff.

Hike photos are here:
http://www.changephoenix.com/10/2010-11-18PetersMesa.html
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Mar 02 2009
mazatzal
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Tortilla TH to Canyon Lake THPhoenix, AZ
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mazatzal
Backpack21.70 Miles 3,460 AEG
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Started at route 88 rather than Tortilla TH.

Saw 2 deer, 1 gila monster and 1 buzzworm.
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Peter's MesaPhoenix, AZ
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Mr_Squishy
Hiking12.00 Miles 2,366 AEG
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I arrived at Tortilla Trailhead parking lot about 8 am and quickly determined I wouldn't be driving my rig in on FR 213. I rode my mountain bike to the trailhead: 3.22 miles, took about 45 minutes. I met a backpacker breaking camp at the windmill who was headed to Horse Camp Basin (this after thinking, "Well, I won't see anybody back here today.") I was able to boulder hop Tortilla creek, so had dry feet as I headed up out of the canyon. The trail through Peters Canyon is quite brushy and I was glad to have long pants although the prickly pear decided to leap out at me frequently which required a few stops to pick spines out of my legs and pants. I could boulder hop the creek crossings here as well. Lots of water in the creeks and springs and there was even running water in the little draw just before you reach the saddle between the two humps of Peters Mesa. I headed east up to 3765 for a leisurely lunch. On the hike back up Peters Canyon, I just boulder-hopped up the creek rather than take the trails on either side. Back at the trailhead, I saddled up the bike and headed up the loooong uphill on FR 213 to the ranch gate, then on down to the parking lot and a cold Shiner Bock.
I was glad to have the bike - it was quicker and not really harder than hiking the road.
Overall, a great hike for a there and back.
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Peter's MesaPhoenix, AZ
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I had planned on hiking to Peter's Mesa. I had not planned on ice, snow and rushing torrents in Tortilla Creek. The ice & snow were melting so there was a lot of mud & slush.

I saw tracks that looked like a huge mulie, but they did not have the two points that I expected at the rear of the hoof and they kept following the trail. :-k I learned from some backpackers some Llamas had preceded me. That cleared up that mystery. :doh:

I got about 1/4 mile past the Tortilla TH to the first crossing. Two hikers were coming back from the next crossing and said it was even worse and they were turning back. :( The three backpackers pushed on. I turned back. If I had my G2 Hydrosocks and Keen water boots, I might have continued. : rambo : In my non-GoreTex Vasque boots, this was more than I needed.
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Peter's MesaPhoenix, AZ
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Took Peters Trail to Charlebois. Deer were everywhere. The recent rains have made the creeks really spectacular and they are still flowing three weeks later.

Took a side trip, apparently following Vaporman for awhile, except we were doing it on purpose (see forthcoming new hike description). Back up Peters Mesa we began the descent to the south and finished the last mile to Charlebois in the moonlight.

Overnight at Charlebois was cold, temps were below freezing by 10PM and I was covered in frost and ice in the morning. It was probably about 10 degrees colder than I was properly equipped for. Thanks weathermen!

The next day we headed out Dutchman taking the Red Tanks through Upper LaBarge Box and back north on Hoolie Bacon. Spotted tracks of a cougar stalking a deer on Hoolie, very cool! More deer tracks were spotted later on as well, but no deer and no cougars were seen the second day...too bad.

Briefly lost the trail at the Tortilla Creek Confluence, same place I lost it last time, guess I didn't learn. The Hoolie and JF are in better shape for the most part. There is some catclaw between Horse Ridge and Trap Canyon, but it seemed better than last time I took it.

Finished 5.5 hours later before it got too cold or dark. Great loop!
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This was a spectacular side trip with all the water. If nothing else, the cowboy dam near the beginning should be a highlight for the Peters Trail.

The scenery is really awesome as you proceed downstream and its easy until you have to whack your way 0.4 miles up a 0.8 mile canyon. It's steep too on the way back to the top of the mesa, look at the GPS route.

Give yourself plenty of time, It took us about 5 hours for this detour, probably because I stopped and took alot of pictures.

Vaporman indicates continuing downstream to Tortilla Flats is possible, he did it the same day we did this loop without telling us until later!

I look forward to returning. Cottonwood Canyon and some of the other unnamed canyons in this area are begging to be explored. I also intend to do the whole trip to the flats as well.
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