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Pine Canyon Loop - aka Deep Pools - 9 members in 14 triplogs have rated this an average 4 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Apr 18 2020
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 Far NE Phoenix,
Bearfoot - Pine Creek Canyon - Deep Pools Loop, AZ 
Bearfoot - Pine Creek Canyon - Deep Pools Loop, AZ
 
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The_EagleTriplogs 1,936
Hiking13.30 Miles 2,150 AEG
Hiking13.30 Miles   6 Hrs   26 Mns   2.20 mph
2,150 ft AEG      23 Mns Break14 LBS Pack
 
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Beautiful morning and day in the high country, Breezy all day.

Where Pine Canyon Trail crosses Pine Creek, I saw a couple fly fishing. They were having luck catching a bunch of small ones.

The Deep Pools Route up to the rim, currently has water flowing all the way to the rim. It's unlikely you will see another sole on this track. It's a bit slow going in places because of terrain and navigation. But this sure is a fun little route. The waterfall area is the payoff to the climb up to the rim after turning out of Pine Creek.

Up on the rim I had my lunch, with a view down to where I'd been. From here, some old forest roads to work my way over to the Pine Canyon Trail and down the"Switchbacks". I met the couple I'd seen fishing here on their way out.

This is a hike I'll do again.

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 Joined Dec 30 2010
 Phoenix, AZ
Pine Canyon 26 to Deep Pools, AZ 
Pine Canyon 26 to Deep Pools, AZ
 
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BoscoazTriplogs 112
Hiking10.50 Miles 1,625 AEG
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Very nice hike up on the rim. We started out from the north side of Pine Canyon Trail #26 and headed down into the canyon. We knew that the switchbacks were going to be tough coming back up. We made it to the creek and decided to head towards deep pools instead of down towards Pine. We made it to Darling Rocks and then the trail really became overgrown. We had to bushwhack for the next mile or so before we couldn't go any further. Unfortunately we were within about a 1/4 mile from the pools and couldn't get to them. Oh well....I will just have to make it back later in the summer.

We had lunch near the creek while the dog swam in the creek. Great hike back out and yes the switchbacks were tough. They were good practice for my trip to Phantom Ranch next week.
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Aug 15 2010
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 Joined Nov 20 1996
 Phoenix, AZ
Pine Canyon Loop via Pine TH, AZ 
Pine Canyon Loop via Pine TH, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Aug 15 2010
joebartelsTriplogs 5,286
Hiking17.40 Miles 3,600 AEG
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Did Chris' group hike up to the rim. Tim, Dave, Liz and I took advantage of the situation and boogied up the actual canyon from Parsnip. It only adds about a mile to the hike. It's an obstacle course for a good mile yet pretty well flagged if you pay attention. The waterfall albeit barely running is pretty cool. Rather warm towards the end of the hike. I prefer this as loop from the top as I posted in 2003 concentrating on the better "canyon" section. Yet it's good to check off a little bit of trail I hadn't seen. Kyle's friend Rachel was new to the group. Good to meet you and great job on this roller coaster hike in warm temps.

Thanks Chris for setting this up and Jim & Ron for driving!
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Aug 15 2010
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40 female
 Joined Mar 01 2010
 Phoenix, AZ
Pine Canyon Loop via Pine TH, AZ 
Pine Canyon Loop via Pine TH, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Aug 15 2010
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Hiking17.40 Miles 3,600 AEG
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Lots of up and down on this trail, most of which I somehow forgot about on the return trip. :? Joe, Tim, Dave and I decided on taking the canyon route up. Very much worth it! Had fun finding the route, traversing fallen trees with 20ft exposure over the dry creek, and climbing canyon walls and trickling waterfalls. Headed back down as soon as we found the road (thanks for finding us, Jim), forgetting to stop for a lunch break.. oops. The switchbacks on the way down don't look nearly as fun as the canyon. Had a good amount of tree cover for the first portion back, but the second portion seemed like it was in perpetual sun. Better to get this one done before the temps rise too high!

Joe's suggestion for this hike as a loop from the top seems like a much more worthwhile option if you're planning on bushwhacking the canyon. I'd suggest also to bring shoes with good grippy tread on them. Really comes in handy. :)

Great hiking with Joe, Jim, Tim, and Wally again. Good to meet you Ron, Dave, Chris, Rachel, and Kyle. Looking forward to future hikes!
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Jun 12 2010
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 Joined Oct 29 2005
 Scottsdale, AZ
Pine Canyon Trail #26Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Jun 12 2010
topohikerTriplogs 2,616
Hiking26.62 Miles 6,371 AEG
Hiking26.62 Miles   13 Hrs   5 Mns   2.03 mph
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We did two hikes in the same area. We started at the Pine TH and hiked the Pine Trail to the other side on top of the rim where it hits the Beeline again. We meet two guys from the scout camp along the way. They had a topo map of the un-official scout trails in the area. I've seen the scout trail signs, but had no idea where they went until now. There's a bunch of trails that take you to the rim from the Pine Trail. Some of them are: Temple Canyon, Deep Pools, Cinch Hooks and the Stradling. From a quick look at the map, I noticed that the Deep Pools trail was the easiest to follow. It followed the Pine Creek all the way to the rim. We decided to try that and to take the Pine trail back down. When we got past the Parson's spring they was a huge group of girls (about 200) hiking back to the camp. The Pine Creek trail was clear of any fallen trees.

We made it to the deep pools trail and followed that. For the first half mile the trail was easy to follow and well flagged. It lead to a rock slide area and there was a sign calling this place the "Darling Rocks". The well defined trail ended here. There still was some flags guiding us, but the trail got overrun with two layers of deadfall. Going up the creek was just as bad. After 10 minutes of this, I pulled out the GPS and saw that we were only about a 1,000 feet from the Pine Creek trail. We jumped trail and headed to the Pine Creek trail. It was nice to have a trail again. We hiked to the rim and got a couple of sprinkles of rain on us. We turned around and head back. We took lunch down by the creek.

The next hike was the Pine Canyon/Geronimo loop. We headed back to the Pine Creek / East Rim intersection and took a break before the big climb. Surprisingly the East Rim trail had some recent trail maintenance done. All of the dead fall was cut away and there was fresh flags. When we got to the rock pile, a cold wind started to blow and the sky clouded over. I was surprised to be this cold in June! The bushwhack from the rim to the forest road was pretty easy and almost thorn free. We made to the Milk Ranch road and took the West Webber down. All of the downed trees were cut away on the West Webber. We then hiked to the highline, then back to the car.

It was a cool to cold hike depending on our elevation. I looked around the internet for some info on the other scout 'un-official" trail, but I didn't find any info. I don't think I'll try the scout trail unless I find some info on them.
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Oct 27 2007
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 Joined Jan 04 2005
 Mesa, AZ
Pine Canyon Loop - aka Deep PoolsPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Backpack5.00 Miles 1,255 AEG
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May 19 2007
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 Joined Mar 28 2005
 SLC, Utah
Pine Canyon Loop - aka Deep PoolsPayson, AZ
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Hiking6.00 Miles 1,255 AEG
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I'm also thinking this is a bit longer than 5 miles or maybe it's just very slow going acending the canyon. :) The hike down to Parsnip Springs is more of a romantic stroll with it's sweeping canyon views, bubbling creek & springs, birds chirping, chipmunks playing, elks grazing, and sweet smell of the pine trees. Though the trek up the creek and back to rim can be quite an adventure if you're not ready for bushwacking and putting your route finding skills to use. I ended up seeing 4 elk total and got within 50 feet of them. Two were just eating away and didn't notice/smell me for about a minute and other two I almost caught up to on the trail before they ran away. The route out wasn't too tough to follow, but it was still a challenge. When I got within a 1/4 mile of the TH I ran across an eery-looking schoolgirl's backpack loaded with notebooks, completed assigments, workbooks, with her name on the stuff as well. :o On the way into town, I stopped by the sheriff's office and reported it. Apparently she's from Flagstaff and had her backpack stolen last year, but she's alive and well. :D
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 Joined Aug 13 2003
 Phoenix, AZ
Pine Canyon Loop - aka Deep PoolsPayson, AZ
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Sep 30 2006
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 Joined Mar 16 2005
 Cave Creek, AZ
Pine Canyon Loop - aka Deep PoolsPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Hiking6.00 Miles 1,255 AEG
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This hike had me seeing red, literally! Since the entire route is marked with bright (or not so bright) red flags and chevrons, this is a great hike to practice route finding, and I had a blast..uh..blasting my way through the brush trying to follow these things. The creek was flowing very well and a couple of the crossings required some navigation. Beautiful cascades led me to entertain the hope that the waterfall might actually be running well.
Make no mistake- this hike is difficult- I think perhaps with the new upcoming rating system, we'll see this one rise to a 5. It was quite difficult bushwacking in the creek bottom, and the climb up to the "wall" was very Flatironesque to me, albeit just a short distance. The tub was black as oil.
I didn't expect to see any color, however, it is definately about to erupt- temp was right around 50 when I arrived at the TH (which is on FS Road 6038) at 7 am. Yellow is the dominate color now, but the maples are turning- already some are glowing. Imagine how hard its gonna be following those flags when the maples turn completely!
I was unsure just where exactly to leave the "trail" and hit the FS road, as indicated in Joe's writeup. I kinda got the impression it lay on the N side of the canyon (as it wound WNW), however I wasn't exactly sure when I was supposed to look for it. After ascending the wall, with its only a trickle of water, I hoped the trail would climb right up to the road, and it appeared to. After it rose close to the rim, I left the route and climbed up- but couldn't see the road. Backtracked to the red route and continued to follow- but I was thoroughly sick of bushwacking- so I whipped out the map. It showed FS road 218 on the other side of the canyon, so I climbed out of the creekbed and ascended the steep canyonside. Found it- and followed it to the head of the canyon and was surprised- the red flags even mark the route on the FS road! I take back everything I said about FS roads in my Geronimo Trail writeup.
You don't need to go to the highway- just follow the flags - trail comes out right next to your vehicle. The trail becomes the "first major left" that Joe mentions in his directions.
This hike rocks- and now my feet feel like rocks. Good sturdy soles on your boots are a necessity. Expect to be quite beat up as well.
Oh- this hike has GOT to be longer than 5 miles! According to the FS sign, it is 2 miles down the steep switchbacks before you reach Pine Creek. I logged it at 6- compromise. :)
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 Joined Aug 14 2003
 Peoria, AZ
Pine Canyon Loop - aka Deep PoolsPayson, AZ
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Aug 08 2004
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59 male
 Joined Apr 11 2004
 Chandler, AZ
Pine Canyon Loop - aka Deep PoolsPayson, AZ
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What a great hike this was! The views were great. The creek was beautiful. The raspberry bushes we found on the way in (left side of the old ranch road on the way in) and the blackberry bushes we found at the creek (a little way towards the deep pools on the left side of the trail) certainly didn't hurt and we ate a whole lot of them. The trail going to the pools is real hard to follow and we eventually gave up and headed up the hill to the switchback trail, but all in all an awesome day :D
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Pine Canyon Loop - aka Deep PoolsPayson, AZ
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Hiking5.00 Miles 1,255 AEG
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This was a great hike :D . Went with my buddy (Rich) and three dogs (two his and one mine). The trail down to the creek and the signs that point in the direction of the deep pools was easy to follow. Although we never saw anyone else on this trip that part of the trail was well used and maintained. But once you start following the creek back up the canyon the trail is harder to follow. Although there are trail markers, many were faded or on trees that had fallen down, making it a challenge to follow the trail. I think this slowed us down quite a bit. Interestingly, the dogs usually were able to lead us in the right direction. I am sure they were using their sense of smell to follow the last person that went through. Basically you just follow the creek up to the water fall (10 to 15' high :?: ). Be careful, the rocks can be slippery as you hike up to the base of the falls. There were many places we had to help the dogs climb up onto the rocks. Once past the falls we followed the creek for a ways further. We were not really sure where to exit. We ended up climbing up the left side of the canyon (looking up stream) and finding the fire service road mention in the hike description. We took the road left for 1/4 mile or so and saw two more trial markers on trees. They were on the right side of the road. Could not see a trail though. But being that trail makers had not led us wrong so far we followed them. In a short distance we came to a second fire service road that looked not to have been used for awhile. This road we also turned left on and followed back to the trailhead. I consider this quite a stroke of luck actually. It was a great hike with beautiful scenery. I was really upset that I had left my camera in the car. But that just gives me a reason to go back. :) We never did find those deep pools either.
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Pine Canyon Loop - aka Deep PoolsPayson, AZ
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:) A good initial hike, although the trip back up the canyon was a little difficult in discerning the trail back up, both my son and I enjoyed ourselves. The markers up the canyon are spaced just enough for a good challenge. Great views going down the canyon. One day I would enjoy continuing on the pine trail at the deep pool signs.
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Apr 24 2003
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Pine Canyon Loop - aka Deep PoolsPayson, AZ
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Hiking5.00 Miles 1,255 AEG
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