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Feb 01 2020
joebartels
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50 male
 Joined Nov 20 1996
 Phoenix, AZ
Needle Vista - Hackberry - 2811 Lasso Loop, AZ 
Needle Vista - Hackberry - 2811 Lasso Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Feb 01 2020
joebartels
Hiking14.57 Miles 2,502 AEG
Hiking14.57 Miles   10 Hrs   59 Mns   1.56 mph
2,502 ft AEG   1 Hour   39 Mns Break18 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
Route Scout GPS Route Recorded on Route Scout View
Goldfields are sorta cool. First Water Creek Canyon options rank similar for myself. Neither are my favs, a trip is typically enjoyable.

Wanted to utilize Needle Vista's easy, paved and abundant parking. Check. The unofficial well used route to the tidy looking Hackberry system of trails is a fabulous option. Popular with horses but not destroyed like a historical SoMo trail that gets a bad rep.

FWC heading in exceeded my expectations. Almost 4 miles in we turned east/right to gain the blobbed ridge that separates FWC from a no name drainage with an upper origin near Cholla Tank dubbed Cholla Tank Canyon on Nov 07 2015 by Bruce. Anyhow we made adjustments to my planned route based on the terrain. Stumbled upon a pioneer if not decades sooner Oro and sun glyph overlooking Cholla Creek.

Still recovering from a slip 12 days ago on wet rock I made a crucial mistake on this hike. Brought my daypack instead of my fanny pack. Had to carry the cumbersome pack in various positions for the hike. Got a serious workout.

Four Peaks, Malpais and Canyon Lake views along with good luck route finding had our hike moving right along with smiles. As an ol' friend I haven't visited in 15 years neared I was full of anticipation. 2811 is a little gem destination. Sketchy footing and a slightly intimidating route keeps return trips to a minimum. Yellow litchen foreground with a lake and the Four Peaks views is a winner in my book. After a fab lunch we headed on down.

Bruce questioned my route and we switched it up. Bushwhacking beat the life out us. Bruce did ALL the work and I still struggled to keep up. The last tenth of a mile or so to FWC was a gift. Someone recently cut a path. A good fifteen foot tunnel at the end that would be a lot of work with anything less than a long blade chainsaw.

FWC was a welcome sight. I just wasn't finding a grove. After a while I requested a break. Felt better and moved on. Next we unexpectedly opened a can of whoopass. Needed to wade some water. No biggie, get'r over. Slippery and up to mid chest on Bruce I figured I got it. In I went. Yeah it's cold and slippery. Wait a minute, why is the water near my neck. Pack balanced on my head. A little bit of laughing. Perhaps some screaming.

Oh it gets better. Bruce lost a bag of pistachios now floating in the water. Joker suggests I pick it up on route with my mouth. The impossible happened. On the second attempt I somehow managed to throw that sucker and he caught it. I'm notoriously known for a bad throw. Either that or the forty degree swim zapped me back to life.

We almost made a bad route finding decision with daylight passing quick. A little in I pitched my plea again. For once I had a clue what I was talking about. We backed the train up and got on course to get out before the warm star said goodnight. The loop I put together didn't pan out but this was certainly memorable.

I would not bring a dog on this hike. Lots of cholla. Road was paved. Tread of hike sucked for large portions. A fit scout could knock this out easier. Some of the views will probably draw me back. Glad Denny didn't come, never would have heard the end of it. Shockingly only crossed paths with a couple in the final ten minutes of our hike.
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Leaves of red maids and dudleya no flowers
Lots of Brassica tournefortii in several areas, tiny flowers at best now
Lots of Canyon ragweed in the Hackberry spring vicinity for reference
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Feb 01 2020
The_Eagle
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64 male
 Joined Jan 20 2009
 Far NE Phoenix,
Needle Vista - Hackberry - 2811 Lasso Loop, AZ 
Needle Vista - Hackberry - 2811 Lasso Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Feb 01 2020
The_Eagle
Hiking14.74 Miles 2,704 AEG
Hiking14.74 Miles   10 Hrs   59 Mns   1.54 mph
2,704 ft AEG   1 Hour   25 Mns Break13 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
Route Scout GPS Route Recorded on Route Scout View
This area of the Supes has always intrigued me driving by. I had started working on a loop in the area, the same week Joe proposed this loop. I was in.

I had never hiked from the Needle Vista TH. A paved lot and 300 yards of sidewalk yielded to a pleasant hiking path all the way to Hackberry Spring. We were shocked that there were no campers at the spring area

First Water Creek had pools of water the entire length. We started our off trail, up an unnamed canyon, looking for a route up to Peak 2811. Travel was slow because of the prickly flora. At the top of the canyon we stopped at a rock out cropping with some great views. [ youtube video ]

The geology up here is special up here. We continued to Peak 2811 and then to the real Peak 2811. [ youtube video ]
Here's where the excellent 360 views are. Looking off the NW side, it did not look like it was possible to get down, but it all worked out.

We followed a ridgeline down, before hopping into various small canyons on our way back to First Water Creek. There was one 50 yard section that was so thick with brush, I had my doubts. Then magically, we began to see where some kind soul had started to trim this unnamed canyon.

Where we got out of this canyon, was actually where Canyon Lake meets First Water Creek. There was a nice area to camp here.

Back to the trek down First Water Creek.

We got to one place where we took our shoes off to keep from getting them wet. No luck keeping them dry, as just around the corner was a 25' section of neck deep water that froze the nether regions.

After this is was just a matter of keeping up the pace to keep warm in the sunless canyon. Shockingly, there was still nobody camped at Hackberry Spring.

The views from around Peak 2811 were the highlight of this hike for me
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max First Water Creek Pools to trickle Pools to trickle

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Hackberry Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
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Mar 02 2019
Pickles
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 Routes 7
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53 female
 Joined Nov 21 2015
 Phoenix
Canyon Lake to Peak 2811Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 02 2019
Pickles
Hiking3.10 Miles 1,663 AEG
Hiking3.10 Miles
1,663 ft AEG
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1st trip
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I have had this hike uploaded in my RouteScout for quite some time but, for whatever reason, kept it on the back burner. I was going to do Rough and Ready Canyon but decided last minute to get this one done!
I followed HAZ_Hikebot's route with only a couple of exceptions. His route was spot on to get anyone to the intended destination. I parked at the first pullout on the left after crossing the first bridge at Canyon Lake, crossed the road and made my way up the drainage.
What I discovered on this hike is that there is quite a bit of exposure to get across the spines, more than I anticipated. At one point, I decided to navigate around a spine, instead of coming across it directly, due to the level of exposure I was subjecting myself to. Being up there all by my lonesome I felt I better think more on the logical side rather than trying to be some kind of hiking superhero! My stature is 5"3 on a good day so I have to keep that in mind when I know I have to climb up OR down and have to rely on good foot and hand holds to get me from Point A to Point B. It is what it is!
Having found my way to the grand finale at the end of the hike, I took a few deep breaths, thanked God for keeping me safe and for giving me the ability to enjoys these excursions, took a few photos and then made my way back to my car down below.
There are no signs of a trail that I found as everything was so overgrown. However, I did find quite a few cairns and added a few of my own. I know some hikers think they are the epitome of evil in the hiking realm, I appreciate them, especially in terrain such as this, just to give a little direction when one might feel it would be beneficial. There are certainly areas of "ruggedness" up there but I have been through worse. No signs of a trail but RouteScout was extremely helpful in guiding me to where I needed to be. You will also find areas of loose rock once you are leaving the first spine but nothing extraordinary. The views along this hike are quite impressive and, once you reach a certain part of the hike, all noise from the highway below, dissipates! I did pick up a few friends during this hike that I discovered within a couple of hours of completing it. I have hiked hundreds, if not thousands, of miles over the last 10 years and this was THE first time I ever found ticks! Nasty little blood suckers!
This hike turned out to exceeded my expectations in many ways. It isn't very long but do not let the distance fool you into thinking you will not need to exert yourself, you will!
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Mar 29 2016
rtaylor3235
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69 male
 Joined Nov 02 2013
 Apache Junction,
Canyon Lake to Peak 2811Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 29 2016
rtaylor3235
Hiking5.24 Miles 1,207 AEG
Hiking5.24 Miles   2 Hrs   41 Mns   2.28 mph
1,207 ft AEG      23 Mns Break
 
1st trip
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I took Dustin up to peak 2811 and then beyond a bit, beautiful cool, breezy day.
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Apr 08 2013
jameslcox44
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75 male
 Joined Mar 18 2012
 mesa,az
Apache Gap to Mailbox TH/ Goldfields, AZ 
Apache Gap to Mailbox TH/ Goldfields, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 08 2013
jameslcox44
Hiking6.80 Miles
Hiking6.80 Miles   6 Hrs      1.13 mph
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We dropped off a car at Mailbox TH and drove the hikers (3 of us) to Apache Gap TH. From there we walked up the right side of the wash to the ridgeline. We moved northerly across the ridgline until sighting an old mining road below us. We moved down to the road and followed it to the top of the ridgeline on our right. We continued on the ridgeline sighting Canyon Lake on the right and Saguaro Lake on our left. We continued until we sighted Horns of a Dilemna then move to the wash below (Sidewalk Canyon?). We walked the wash until it filled with brush, then moved to the right to the ridgeline until we saw Junk Canyon below us. We moved to the wash at Junk Canyon. At Junk Canyon, we moved toward Saguaro Lake. As we got closer to the lake, we encountered car sized boulders that made a good spot to view the lake from about 100 feet away. We got some pictures as we moved across boulders to get a better look.
Leaving the area, we backtracked to the first canyon on the left. It took us to the Morman Flat Dam road. As we walked the road to Mailbox TH, we spotted the arch to the east.
The beauty of the hike was the flowers and sighting Canyon Lake on the right and Saguaro Lake on the left.
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lots of brittlebush, mexican poppies, globe mallows and others I couldn't name. Some hedgehog cactus were blooming as well as a few prickly pears.
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Jan 11 2013
vanman
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54 male
 Joined Jan 07 2012
 Gilbert
Canyon Lake to Peak 2811Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 11 2013
vanman
Hiking3.25 Miles 1,900 AEG
Hiking3.25 Miles   4 Hrs   15 Mns   1.00 mph
1,900 ft AEG   1 Hour    Break
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1st trip
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Since I hadn't hiked for a couple weeks I wanted to hit Flatiron to get some exercise. By the time we got off the 60 Mike convinced me we should go to Plan B since I had to be home early. And I'm glad he did!

This isn't a long hike but it is really cool! "No fluff" as Mike puts it. Get out of the car, go up!! Great views, some fun scrambling, minimal bushwacking and great formations! Can't wait to go back and explore some more out there! Great call Mike!!
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Mar 05 2012
Charger55
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41 male
 Joined Oct 19 2010
 Mesa, AZ
Canyon Lake to Peak 2811Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 05 2012
Charger55
Hiking2.80 Miles 1,270 AEG
Hiking2.80 Miles   3 Hrs   30 Mns   0.80 mph
1,270 ft AEG
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1st trip
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This was the last hike on my Apache Trail to-do list. Halfway up, I brushed up against an agave plant. The needle broke off and buried itself in my leg. Try as I might, I couldn't remove it with the tweezers from my first aid kit. So I soldiered on, topping out at miniBabo, which I mistook for Peak 2811. It's more impressive looking than 2811 and roughly the same height, so I was satisfied. When I got home, I used the mini-tweezers from my Boy Scout knife to remove a 3cm agave needle from my leg. That little bugger caused a lot of pain.
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Dec 05 2009
desert_boonie
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40 male
 Joined Aug 05 2004
 Peoria, AZ
Canyon Lake to Peak 2811Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 05 2009
desert_boonie
Hiking3.99 Miles 1,270 AEG
Hiking3.99 Miles   2 Hrs   44 Mns   1.46 mph
1,270 ft AEG
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Wanted to do this trek for awhile now so finally got back out to Canyon Lake. Started just before 7:30am where the wind was howling in the already mid 30's weather, guess winter is here this week. Went up the wash and up the rocks to the first ridge where it seemed like the peak was still pretty far away. Made my way along the ridge and enjoyed the views along the way but not the wind chilling my body. From a distance the mini Baboquivary looking peak looks rough and very exciting to go up, but once you get to it there is nothing hard about it. You can easily make it up the peak from the north enjoy the views on top and skirt right down the south end to the peak behind it. Plus the views are better up there and makes the trek more exciting. While on top had to dodge the wind as it was flat out bone chilling once I worked up a sweat. Headed back the same way and came down a different wash about a 1/4 mile east and finished on the road back to my Jeep and then headed over to the Flatiron. Nice off trail trek that doesn't involve anything too difficult that most should be able to handle.
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Feb 19 2009
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36 male
 Joined Jun 25 2003
 Tempe, AZ
Canyon Lake to Peak 2811Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 19 2009
spacyway
Hiking1.75 Miles 1,270 AEG
Hiking1.75 Miles
1,270 ft AEG
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1st trip
Linked none no linked trail guides
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Feb 03 2008
AZLOT69
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69 male
 Joined Feb 12 2002
 Gold Canyon, AZ
Canyon Lake to Peak 2811Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 03 2008
AZLOT69
Hiking2.80 Miles 1,270 AEG
Hiking2.80 Miles   2 Hrs      1.40 mph
1,270 ft AEG
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The weather was threatening and it even sprinkled a bit. An enjoyable hike with a view. Things are getting interesting now.
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Oct 29 2006
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 Joined Mar 28 2005
 SLC, Utah
Canyon Lake to Peak 2811Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 29 2006
Vaporman
Hiking1.50 Miles 1,270 AEG
Hiking1.50 Miles   2 Hrs   10 Mns   0.69 mph
1,270 ft AEG
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I was originally thinking of hiking to peak 2811, but after reaching the ridge that's marked with an X on Joe's map and seeing how much time I'd spent just to get here; I decided to head back if I was going to be back in time for church later this afternoon. This is fairly rugged terrain and tests your route finding skills, but nothing too thick or steep was encountered in the sections I hiked. This made a great Sunday morning hike now that it's started to cool down.
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Jul 06 2006
joebartels
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50 male
 Joined Nov 20 1996
 Phoenix, AZ
Canyon Lake to Peak 2811Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 06 2006
joebartels
Hiking0.60 Miles 1,270 AEG
Hiking0.60 Miles   1 Hour      0.60 mph
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Nov 26 2005
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Canyon Lake to Peak 2811Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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hikingsunshine
Hiking10.00 Miles 1,270 AEG
Hiking10.00 Miles
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Off Trail Hike with Sierra Leader Ken. This man likes to take his followers through the Cholla mines!! This was my first experience pulling cholla from my flesh...very interesting!
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Nov 28 2003
Riley
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41 male
 Joined Nov 05 2003
 Mesa, AZ
Canyon Lake to Peak 2811Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 28 2003
Riley
Hiking2.80 Miles 1,270 AEG
Hiking2.80 Miles   2 Hrs      1.40 mph
1,270 ft AEG
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1st trip
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I took a couple friends up and we did some exploring. We only hiked to the "X" (see Joe's map). The view is very rewarding. There really is no trail, I recommend long pants for sure! This is a great hike if your looking for a short summit with a great view. The landscape here is also incredible! The first little incline is all yellow rolling rock surface. I felt like a kid on a huge playground :) The climb is a little technical, (requires using all four limbs) but really not to bad. Overall, the short hike to awesome scenery ratio makes this a great hike.
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Nov 17 2003
joebartels
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50 male
 Joined Nov 20 1996
 Phoenix, AZ
Canyon Lake to Peak 2811Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 17 2003
joebartels
Hiking2.80 Miles 1,270 AEG
Hiking2.80 Miles   3 Hrs   42 Mns   0.76 mph
1,270 ft AEG
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WARNING! Hiking and outdoor related sports can be dangerous. Be responsible and prepare for the trip. Study the area you are entering and plan accordingly. Dress for the current and unexpected weather changes. Take plenty of water. Never go alone. Make an itinerary with your plan(s), route(s), destination(s) and expected return time. Give your itinerary to trusted family and/or friends.

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