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Oct 05 2019
friendofThunde
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37 male
 Joined Jan 21 2013
 AZ
Buddha TempleNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hike & Climb avatar Oct 05 2019
friendofThundergod
Hike & Climb
Hike & Climb3 Days         
Onsight II R  • 5.7 Sandstone Good • 300 Feet 3 Pitches
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Pro: Single Rack and set of nuts. BD .3-4 (a 5 will protect OW crack at beginning of pitch two).
This was another hard earned and rewarding Grand Canyon summit. Shelby, Carlos and Pernell teamed up with me for this one.

Day 1:

Hiked into the first overhang camp in Upper Phantom Canyon via the Utah Flats Route and the South Kaibab Trails. Heavy packs was the theme of day one. We carried in a set of twin 70m ropes, a 60m rope and two full racks of protection to go along with the rest of our climbing gear and three days worth of food and supplies.

Day 2:

From the overhang camp we headed up stream to the point where we would exit the creek area and begin our cross country jaunt towards Sturdevant Wash. We then walked up Sturdevant Wash to its steep beginnings and the break in the redwall at the saddle between Schellbach Butte and Buddha. A ridgeline then took us to the point where we would start traversing towards Buddha. The Supai blocks access to the base of Buddha and requires someone to climb on lead. Originally, we had planned to do the W Face route, but the approach took longer than expected so we decided on the more "sure thing" standard route on the SE corner.

The Climb:

I led the first pitch with a plan of swapping leads at each belay station. The first pitch is a series of short climbs with ok protection and some spicy traverses along some exposed ledges to reach the end of the pitch. The belay station is at a large pine tree that should be pretty easy to spot, climbers left. The belay station proved to be a little small for four climbers so for the sake of keeping our climb going efficiently, I began leading the second pitch with Shelby on belay. Meanwhile, Pernell pulled up Carlos. The second pitch starts with an OW crack that climbs easy, but is hard to protect. A number five will go down low, but its run out to the top. From the top of the crack start, a large ledge brings you over to a sandstone slab face that has an overhanging flake on its left side that creates a chimney like feature. The slab climbs about 5.7-5.8, but takes no pro and is very run out. Two pitons would be a nice edition to this section of the second pitch. From the belay station at the top of pitch two, I could see the start of the short third pitch. I decided to link the third pitch with the second and just finish off the climb for us. Unfortunately, my rope ended up being about ten feet too short and I was stuck making an intermediate belay to bring up Carlos to lead belay me to the top and bring up the others. From there it was just a matter of getting everyone up to the top of the final climbing pitch. A short scramble and a low fifth class chimney were the final obstacle to reaching the summit, which was a turn and burn summit due to the lateness in the day. Two adventure raps down our climbing route got us to the bottom. The return to camp was tedious at times. We were able to get our final rap in just as darkness set in, but it was headlamps from the top of the redwall all the way back to camp. After nearly exactly 16 hours we were back at camp. An absolute meat grinder of a day.

Day 3:

Hiked out the way we hiked in. Seven hours and 15 minutes from the overhang camp to the south rim.

Final Notes:

A great summit and a great team to do it with. We suffered together a little Saturday evening, but it was all laughs and high spirits most of the weekend. A memorable three days in the Grand Canyon backcountry for sure.

27th Grand Canyon summit.
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Sep 27 2019
donqcryer
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70 male
 Joined Oct 06 2011
 Payson, AZ &
South Kaibab TrailNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Sep 27 2019
donqcryer
Hiking8.00 Miles 4,790 AEG
Hiking8.00 Miles   4 Hrs      2.00 mph
4,790 ft AEG
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Started at sunrise. Perfect weather. Views spectacular. The whole hike down was mesmerizing. Continued on to Phantom Ranch for a lunch break before climbing out up River Trail and Bright Angel for a one day 18.4 mile down and back hike
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Sep 21 2019
richvosko
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 Joined Apr 14 2019
 Tempe
South Kaibab TrailNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Sep 21 2019
richvosko
Hiking7.21 Miles 200 AEG
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200 ft AEG
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Aug 26 2019
SpiderLegs
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52 male
 Joined Jul 12 2012
 Tucson, AZ
Tonto Trail: South Kaibab to Bright AngelNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Aug 26 2019
SpiderLegs
Hiking14.30 Miles 3,829 AEG
Hiking14.30 Miles   4 Hrs   30 Mns   3.18 mph
3,829 ft AEG
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Had this in the works for a few weeks. My wife had an early morning flight for work out of Phoenix, so I was up at 2:30 AM at our lodging. Made plans to visit my son's new dorm room at NAU the same day, but he had class until 3 PM. That left me with almost 12 hours to fill in, so decided to do a quick trip to the Grand Canyon. The drive up I-17 went without a hitch and made great time to the South Rim. An unexpected bonus was being greeted by a sign saying that the park had free admission, so was able to save $35.

I've been closely monitoring the weather and was 50/50 on hiking this with the weather we've been having this week. But got to the park and while it was going to be a toasty day, still only a few degrees over my comfort zone. Between little traffic coming up and fast service from the GC taxi, it put me 45 minutes ahead of schedule. For that I'm thankful because if I started when I had planned to, it would have been a different experience.

I knew the story of the day would be the heat, so used the hike as a training hike and kept a brisk pace to try and be out of the canyon by noon. Got down to Tip Off and had put myself another 10 minutes ahead of schedule. From there hit the Tonto trail for the first time, loved this trail and thankfully about 20% of it was in the shade while I was on it. Kept making good time and only had two spots where the trail crossed a drainage that slowed me down about 30 seconds while I figured out where to pick it up again Gained another 10 minutes, which put me 20 minutes total ahead of where I wanted to be.

Then got to Indian Gardens and joined the teeming masses at the water fountain to soak my hat and a bandana along with cooling off my face & neck. Double checked my water situation and made steady time up the climb on Bright Angel. Felt a bit off, but just put my head down and cranked up the hill. On the way up I finally saw one of the pink rattlesnakes the canyon is known for. Rather large and well fed. Finished before lunch time and hit the road to spend the afternoon with my son who just started his freshman year at NAU.
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Aug 23 2019
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 Tempe, AZ
Grand Canyon - Inner Gorge - AZT #38Northwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Aug 23 2019
MAP
Hiking20.50 Miles 6,688 AEG
Hiking20.50 Miles2 Days   13 Hrs   48 Mns   
6,688 ft AEG
 
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Day 1: First in line for the hikers' express shuttle at the Bright Angel Lodge by 3:45 am! One other person ended up showing at that stop. :lol: Different experience from the past (maybe because it's August). On SK trail by 4:40 am. Sunrise, around an hour later, was indescribable. Got to Phantom Ranch around 9 am and took a quick snack break. First time up North Kaibab and we were immediately blown away with the extreme beauty when we entered "the box". It was warm but actually a pretty perfect temperature at that time. We took another break at one of the creek crossings to filter cold creek water and cool down. Met the 2nd park ranger of the day who was giving hikers heat-hiking advice. Those rangers must deal with a lot. :-k We continued on and hit the Ribbon Falls creek trail sign around 11:30 am. It was getting pretty darn hot at that point and Ribbon Falls was the PERFECT oasis to cool down at. The hike to the falls took us about a half-hour. The distance is super short but there are many trails and some are more reasonable than others to follow. Ribbon Falls is out of this world beautiful! We had the place completely to ourselves for two hours while we played in the little cave and relaxed behind the falls. With our water bladders filled and our body temps cooled, we decided to head out and break at each of the (approximately) mile and a half spaced campgrounds ahead. There were a couple other waterfalls we stopped at to make use of the cold water and one with a great freezing cold pool close to the Manzanita Ranger Station. Waived hello to Roaring Springs falls around 5 pm and kept plugging away up the ever increasing grade. From here the side canyon we were heading up, paralleling the rock outcropping the north rim lodge sits on, kept getting prettier and prettier. As the sun went down the colors reflected in the canyon seemed to continuously change. The final few miles of N Kaibab are RELENTLESS! :sweat: Holy moly! Darkness was lovely and I had little bat friends flitting around to keep me company as the vegetation turned to forest forest. I made it to the top around 8:30 pm thinking my two friends were close behind. It was freeeeezing at the top and I immediately put on every piece of clothing I had. My friends arrived about a half hour later and one was feeling pretty bad & ended up throwing up. Unfortunately she had stopped consuming electrolytes once the sun went behind the canyon walls and didn't think about how much she was still sweating. I convinced her to eat some of my saltstick chewables and we made it to the lodge. :y:

Day 2: Woke up in our adorable little cabin feeling surprisingly good! We spent the day leisurely walking around the north rim and of course hitting up the lodge for food food and more food. Loved all the delicious vegan options offered for all three meals at the lodge! :DANCE: Our one friend who experienced heat exhaustion the previous evening ended up securing a spot on the shuttle for the return trip the next day instead of hiking back with us. We were grateful she had that option at the last minute and happy she was feeling better.

Day 3: We got to the N Kaibab TH at 4 am and started our decent. It was cool but more pleasant than the evening of our arrival. We got to the bridge around 5:30 am and light was starting to really expose the canyon colors. Stopped briefly to appreciate the colors in the caves area but no breaks this time around. I'm not going to lie...my calves were tight and my knees were screaming pretty loudly during the entire decent. Up is definitely my preference! We entered "the box" around 10 am (an hour later than our way in) and felt the heavy humid air sucking the energy out of me fo sho. Got to Phantom Ranch around 11:30 am and bought some cups of ice to add to our bladders and took our first break. Stayed for about a half hour and headed out with the intention of stopping at each resthouse area to cool down. Next stop was the beautiful little beach near the Colorado River Resthouse. We met a large family who hiked down just for the day to cook out & hang. They had multiple grills, leftover onions, potatoes, etc. They had packed it in and they were packing it all out (as we all should but unfortunately people don't always). Impressive! Now for the final stretch. We stopped at Indian Gardens around 3 pm and filtered cold water for the last time and cooled down. Heading up Bright Angel...I will never get over that view with the light streaming in and illuminating the angel. No words. The Bright Angel switchbacks feel like cake compared to the North Kaibab switchbacks. Still, our bodies were pretty exhausted at this point and we were moving pretty slowly. It's fun encountering tourists who have only hiked down a mile and a half and don't seem to understand they are blocking the entire trail for exhausted hikers who can't deal with navigating them right now. :lol: My friend made it to the top just before me and was treated to the sight of two mountain goats standing on a rock with a ray of light shinning on them! I saw the picture but missed the goats. Still, I was extremely happy for her to have had such a special treat!
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Aug 11 2019
LJW
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25 male
 Joined Jun 02 2019
 Phoenix, AZ
South Kaibab TrailNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Aug 11 2019
LJW
Hiking22.53 Miles 5,600 AEG
Hiking22.53 Miles   7 Hrs   40 Mns   3.07 mph
5,600 ft AEG      20 Mns Break
 
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Left Phoenix at 11:30pm on Saturday in order to beat the sun by a few hours and avoid the heat down low in the canyon but also to see some stars. Parked close to the Bright Angel Trailhead at 3:20am and headed in the direction of The South Rim/South Kaibab TH. Used a headlamp in the dark and took roads and some stretches of the Rim Trail. The canyon was completely black, and because the moon was off to the horizon and obscured by clouds, the stars lived up to the hype. The band of the Milky Way was visible, as were shooting stars from the Perseid meteor shower about every ten or twenty seconds. Turns out the climax was to be the nights of the 12th and 13th.

It was a 5.5 mile walk to the S Kaibab Trailhead. Headlamps bobbed in the darkness below, splashing light on the canyon walls. Headed down as pre-dawn light lit the trail. Got stuck behind some mules bringing supplies for Phantom Ranch, but they let me pass at the first opening. The air was cool until just passed the Tip Off as the trail dropped down toward the black bridge. Only a few groups of people on Kaibab that early, mostly going down, but one coming up who had gotten an early start on Bright Angel.

Passed a mule train on the black bridge, but from there to Bright Angel I didn't see anyone. It's a strange feeling being on the bottom of The Grand Canyon, especially with no one in sight. From the river to Indian Gardens there were several groups of backpackers coming up and people making a mid-day trip down to the river and back. I was surprised how many people do this. Overall, not too many people until the last two and a half miles. From there I fought against the current of tourists who were mostly all apparently very much in a hurry.

Temperatures were a little warm on the ascent of Bright Angel, but with water at all the stops it's a non-factor with an early start. That said, I planned on bringing all the water I would need and brought 5.5 liters. Drank it all plus a little at the camp by the river.

If I were to do this one again I would do it as a shuttle and try to include a trip to Phantom Ranch/Plateau Point. I think either/both would be very doable without the extra mileage of crossing on foot along the rim.
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Jul 04 2019
BiFrost
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 Joined Nov 20 2012
 Phoenix, AZ
AZT Utah to South Rim Grand Canyon, AZ 
AZT Utah to South Rim Grand Canyon, AZ
 
Backpack avatar Jul 04 2019
BiFrost
Backpack105.89 Miles 18,762 AEG
Backpack105.89 Miles5 Days         
18,762 ft AEG
 
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On July 4th, 2015 we finished section hiking the AZT northbound to Stateline Campground on the Utah Border. Fast forward to 2019 and we decided to hike the AZT southbound and start from the same Stateline Campground on same July 4th weekend. However, this time our plan was to do multi-day backpacks instead of day hikes to complete the trail.

We had a shuttle pick us up at South Rim of Grand Canyon visitor center and drive us around to Stateline Campground where we camped July 3rd. Next morning on the 4th we started about 545am up the trail. Our goal, 5 days to make the South Rim by Monday afternoon.

Day 1 - Good start in the morning as the trail climbs out of House Rock Valley and up onto the Kaibab Plateau. We ran into 2 hikers in the first 2hours but then nobody else rest of day. Up on the plateau it’s lots of Juniper, Pinyon Pine, Sage brush and gates. Several AZT gates have been new additions since our 2015 hike. We passed Joes and Government Reservoir before the trail finally climbs into the Ponderosa Pine. With a few side trips in search of water (Umbrella Tank and Ponderosa Trick Tank were good) we covered about 23 miles first day and camped near FR 249.

Day 2 – Now in the pines the trail gradually climbs higher and the scenery gets better with the addition of aspens and Douglas fir. We only had 5 miles to reach Hwy 89A crossing. We ran into a retired couple who was on the last part of their AZT trip northbound and interesting to talk with them for a bit. Moving on we headed up to Buffalo Tank where I found decent water in the metal tank (not the cow tank). Continuing the trail heads above 8,000 feet so it was nice until we hiked into the burn section. There is an 8 mile long burn area but we did find good water at a wildlife cement trough before finding camp in a cluster of Ponderosa. 19.5 miles

Day 3 – We finished crossing the burn area and passed Crane Lake (water not very accessible but we didn’t need any). We continued onto Little Pleasant Valley which did have water but again we didn’t need any. Really enjoyed the section from Crane Lake to Dog Lake and East Rim area. Lots of meadows and thick forest crossings. Near Dog Lake there is a wildlife cement trough which had great water. Filtered four liters before hiking to East Rim to take in some views of Saddle Mountain Wilderness and Marble Canyon in the distance. We continued on to Crystal Spring which also had excellent ice cold water. Filtered another 5 liters before hiking another 2.5 miles to our nights camp. We found a nice spot in the aspens and mixed pines. 23.8 miles

Day 4 – Only objective was to make the North Rim Lodge where we had a reservation. Shower, cold beer, and something other than trail food was a good motivator. We only had to cover about 17.5 miles our shortest day yet. Being motivated we made the lodge by 145 and fortunately they let us check in early. After getting cleaned up we headed over to the bar for some beverages and grabbed something from the deli. Great way to spend the afternoon and evening before crashing for the night!

Day 5 – We arranged for the 4am shuttle back to the North Kaibab Trailhead. The shuttle was quick so we started shortly after 4am with headlamps for the first 45 minutes. North Kaibab trail is still one of my favorites despite lots of people. From the Supai Tunnel down there are no mules allowed so the trail below that is always great. Was able to turn off the headlamp just below the tunnel as we descended to Supai Bridge. Favorite part is the switchbacks through the Red Wall and down to the Pumphouse where we took the first break and got some water. We encountered maybe 10 people on the way there which wasn’t too bad. After the break we headed for Cottonwood Camp but continued on with our next stop at Phantom with the exception of a short break in The Box which always a nice section even as things started to get warm.

Eventually we made it to Phantom and stopped for an ice cold lemonade and some salty potato chips at the cantina. Took a fairly long break to get ready for the hot hike out. Once we were all hydrated and ready to go we pressed on across Black Bridge and started the long hot hike up South Kaibab. The bottom part felt like an oven especially since it was almost noon. We stopped in the shady spots for a breather when we could and there is a good spot just below Tip Off that is there probably all day. After Tip Off we continued up through the Red Wall and found another nice shady spot just below Skeleton Point where we took a break. Once past Skeleton it was noticeably cooler and we were able to keep going to the rim. We hit the rim just before 4pm and happy to be done with about the first 105 miles of AZT sections 43 to 38.

We took the shuttle over to the visitors center to a waiting vehicle and then much earned Mexican food at Plaza Bonita in Tusayan!

dry Big Ridge Tank Dry Dry
just grass growing no visible water

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Bridge Tank 1-25% full 1-25% full
small pool. would not filter unless absolutely necessary

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Buffalo Trick Tank 26-50% full 26-50% full
good water at the metal tank (not the cow tank). I just had to slide to port hole on top of the metal tank to access the water

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Crane Lake 1-25% full 1-25% full
looked decent but was hard to access and we didn't need any

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Crystal Spring Tank 76-100% full 76-100% full
great ice cold clear water. The concrete box tank was completely full

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Dog Lake 51-75% full 51-75% full
good clear water

dry Government Reservoir Dry Dry
dry as a bone

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Ponderosa Trick Tank 26-50% full 26-50% full
large tanks with access bins on one side. clear water

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Sourdough Well 1-25% full 1-25% full
2 small pools but could be filtered
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May 25 2019
desertchild
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32 female
 Joined Jul 17 2015
 Phoenix
Rim to RimNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar May 25 2019
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Hiking44.50 Miles 11,000 AEG
Hiking44.50 Miles   19 Hrs      2.34 mph
11,000 ft AEG
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finally got to knock of R2R2R this past weekend!

i had fun the whole damn day, and surprisingly, the group stayed close together for the majority of the hike.

started down the trail at 4:20am. south kaibab to phantom was quick and uneventful. the box and then the last few miles to cottonwood were hot but still enjoyable.

things dragged a bit after the supai tunnel - that last 1.5M to the top seemed never ending. once we topped out on the north rim, and i inhaled some bacon and a donut, all was well! there was a bit of snow on the ground from the previous storm. we stayed up on the north rim a bit longer than i would have liked because we had a few people in our group trying to figure out if they were going to turn around or take a shuttle back to the south rim. we started heading back down around 1:20ish.

heading back down the north rim to cottonwood and through the box went by FAST and was rather pleasant. i was a bit nervous about hiking up bright angel during the dark, but once again, it went by quick! once i hit the two mile switch back i picked up my pace and managed to be one of the first to top out on bright angel. we finished just shy of 19hrs.

salt chews, bacon, and almond m&ms got me through the 44M, the company was wonderful, and i felt strong the entire day!
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May 25 2019
sbkelley
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 Reno, NV
Rim to RimNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar May 25 2019
sbkelley
Hiking44.50 Miles 11,000 AEG
Hiking44.50 Miles   19 Hrs   7 Mns   2.33 mph
11,000 ft AEG
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After we got back through the Box on the return hike, almost everyone else in our crew at some point asked me (incredulously) why I was doing this again. It was a fair question. Nobody's legs could be classified as feeling 'great' - or even 'good' - anymore. Dave and Shawn, visiting from Colorado, had shattered their daily hiking mileage records before we had even gotten back to Cottonwood, and we were nowhere near a point where anyone would consider us close to being done. But here I was again, nearly four years later, doing an R2R2R. It was tough (again), but it felt great to disconnect from work and a hectic semester and just hike. It was just what the doctor ordered. SK-NK-BA again.

Definitely a different experience when you have a group of 8 (and 7 that do the whole thing - one hopped on a shuttle back to the South Rim once we got to the North Kaibab TH), and everyone stays pretty close together. Last time it was just me and Eric, and we moved quickly and efficiently. We moved quickly again, but the 'efficiently' is much harder to accomplish at rest stops with a larger group that's laughing and talking and enjoying the day. As you should. The time at these rest stops does add up over the course of a day, though we only really had one where the break was probably a bit long (North Rim). No complaints, though, this was a fun group, I had nowhere to be and nothing on my calendar (for once!), and I wasn't at work. Most of all, though, it was so great to see the Canyon again, and even better to see it with good friends. We got ridiculously lucky (again) with the weather: highs in the mid 80s at Phantom Ranch on Memorial Day weekend should not be expected, but it sure made things nicer for someone now living in a place where it now snows in the winter.

Just like last time, the body felt great climbing up N. Kaibab and Bright Angel, and less than great between Phantom and Cottonwood both ways. Go figure. Sam was a ball of positive energy all day, Chris kept an easy-going attitude and steady pace, Taylor was a machine all day, JD and Bill couldn't stop talking about how pretty the canyon was, Dave had a blast checking off a lifelong bucket list item, and Shawn even smiled. It happens sometimes.

The next day, I heard at least four of them say that we should do it again. Remember that when you're going back through the Box on the way home, guys. Two is enough for me...that is, unless Lilah wants to go someday.
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May 18 2019
survivordude
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 The Basin
Grand Canyon Corridor LoopNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar May 18 2019
survivordude
Hiking19.44 Miles 4,973 AEG
Hiking19.44 Miles   10 Hrs   10 Mns   2.42 mph
4,973 ft AEG   2 Hrs   8 Mns Break
 
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May 18 2019
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 Phoenix, AZ
Rim to RimNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Backpack avatar May 18 2019
Grimey
Backpack44.50 Miles 11,000 AEG
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Not sure if this should be posted as 2 trips or just 1?

Overnight trip South Kaibab :next: North Kaibab on Saturday, North Kaibab :next: Bright Angel on Sunday. 8.5 hours each way, although I did move a bit more leisurely on Saturday.

Great weather on Saturday, clear and perfect temps. Sunday was a little different, not bad per se, but not as nice as Saturday. Overcast and cool until the river, really nice actually and at least I wasn't roasting in the Box. At around Phantom Ranch, the wind started whipping, blowing a lot of sand into my face. Light sprinkles until Indian Garden when a steady drizzle started coming down. For these reasons, I just powered on to the top instead of taking a nice lunch break along the way. The rim was socked in from around 3 mile rest house, so no views to speak of at that point. And it was coooold up top, 39 degrees and raining.

Of course the trails were packed on Saturday, the 5 AM hiker express bus was standing room only with R2R runners. First weekend where the North Rim is open, it's to be expected. Trail runners... I don't get it. I know, hike your own hike, but why are they mostly all so rude? Whatever.

Overall a great, albeit quick, weekend.

Water is running everywhere. S. Kaibab is dry of course but no issues from there, and of course most of the taps are on.
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May 18 2019
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37 female
 Joined Jun 23 2015
 Phoenix, AZ
Rim to RimNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar May 18 2019
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Hiking22.50 Miles 6,100 AEG
Hiking22.50 Miles   9 Hrs   57 Mns   2.26 mph
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We headed up with a very large group (60+ people) on 5/17, as they provided all the shuttle services. Two flat tires on two different vans on the way there, snowing at Jacob Lake, one of my hiking partners did not bring a sleeping pad or the footprint for the tent we were going to share, so we slept on the floor of my dad's room at the North Rim :D . Not a great start to the hike, but everyone was well-prepared. This was a great experience for me - my sister and brother-in-law (and his friends), two of my friends, and my dad and his girlfriend were all able to make this trip. We took advantage of the moderate temps to hike out of South Kaibab instead of Bright Angel. We all somehow finished within about one hour of each other, despite not hiking together most of the canyon and staying in different groups of 2-3. I guess certain hiking speeds run in my family! Onto some Grand Canyon hiking off the corridor trails!
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May 15 2019
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 Fountain Hills,
GC: South Rim 2 North Rim, AZ 
GC: South Rim 2 North Rim, AZ
 
Hiking avatar May 15 2019
DixieFlyer
Hiking23.20 Miles 6,283 AEG
Hiking23.20 Miles
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This hike was the first day of a 2-day rim-cubed hike. We started from the South Kaibob TH, hiked down to the Colorado River and Phamtom Ranch, and then went up the North Kaibab TH to the North Rim.

It was a great day for a hike. We started at 4:45, and were past "the box" before the weather got very warm.

I saw my first rattlesnake of the year -- I think that it was a Grand Canyon pink rattlesnake, although it could have been a hopi rattlesnake. ( [ photo ] )

As for mileage and elevation gain, I recorded 21.0 miles and 6,109 feet of elevation gain from the South Kaibab TH to the North Kaibab TH. When I got to the NK trailhead, I had to hike another 2.2 miles with 174 feet of elevation gain to the Lodge at the North Rim, which was where I spent the night. I included this segment in the mileage/elevation totals for the hike, which made the hike 23.2 miles and 6,283 feet of elevation gain.
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May 05 2019
friendofThunde
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O'Neill ButteNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Hike & Climb0.17 Miles 304 AEG
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304 ft AEG
Lead II G  • Trad • 5.0 Sandstone Good • 3 Pitches
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Pro: 1-3 single BD rack works, don't want to bring much more due to the tight confines of the squeeze chimney.
I liked O’Neill so much that I decided to head back up there the next weekend and take my friend up the much easier NE route. Or maybe my rope "allegedly" got stuck on the pull last weekend and I wanted to go retrieve it.

The NE route was pretty much just a scramble after doing the East Face the weekend before, but I still enjoyed the “climb.” Some might be comfortable with a free solo of this route, but I was happy to be able to put in a little protection for the crux on the third pitch.

After a little break on the summit, we headed to the top of the East Face route for the big rap off the new chains. The rap is airy and fun and a perfect way to finish off this little adventure climb.
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Apr 28 2019
nathanbrisk
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 Phoenix, AZ
South Kaibab TrailNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Hiking17.71 Miles 5,252 AEG
Hiking17.71 Miles   12 Hrs   46 Mns   1.94 mph
5,252 ft AEG   3 Hrs   38 Mns Break
 
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Did a Rim to River to Rim from the south (South Kaibab to Bright Angel) . . . Started up at 9:11am and finished up at 9:50pm. Weather conditions in the canyon were pretty good. A bit warm . . .

Lots of wildflowers
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Apr 27 2019
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O'Neill ButteNorthwest, AZ
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I G  • Trad • 5.9 Sandstone Good • 120 Feet 2 Pitches
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Pro: Eats pro, BD 1-4. .4s and .5s will find use as well.
The schedules finally aligned for Pernell and I to get on a climb in the canyon together and we picked a good one the east face route of O'Neill Butte.

The East Face Route has a reputation of being pretty sandbagged and it lived up to its reputation. I think the agreed consensus is 5.9 and maybe approaching 5.9+ due to the, "bulge crux." Pernell led the tough first pitch with the crux and then we swapped leads at the obvious belay station just above the bulge crux. It was a little heady taking over at the second pitch. There was a good amount of exposure and it took a little bit of a committing move to get back on the climb and utilizing the crack again. Nevertheless, I stitched up that section. The second pitch got a lot easier after the initial start. It probably diminishes to 5.6 and nice positive hand holds become abundant. The final push to the top gets a little run out as opportunities for pro become non-existent in the OW push to the top. From the top of the second pitch, it was a quick scramble to the north western corner of O'Neill and the break to the top.

We got lucky with some nice clouds and great clear views from the summit. After signing the register and exploring the top a little, we headed down. There are what appear to be new chains at the top of the East Face Route. Its a 40m rap. A 70m rope alone will get you to the ledge 15 feet above the base of the climb.

Grand Canyon summit #22.
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Apr 27 2019
Harry
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 Chandler, AZ
South Kaibab and Bright Angel Loop, AZ 
South Kaibab and Bright Angel Loop, AZ
 
Backpack avatar Apr 27 2019
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Backpack18.00 Miles 5,000 AEG
Backpack18.00 Miles2 Days         
5,000 ft AEG20 LBS Pack
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Nancy and I hiked down South Kaibab Saturday, stayed at Phantom Ranch that night, and hiked out on Bright Angel Sunday. Although we, especially Nancy about 12x, backpacked Havasupai many times, this was only Nancy's 3rd trip into the Canyon. We previously backpacked Hermit to Tonto to Indian Gardens to South Rim for 3 days about 30 years ago and hiked down Bright Angel to Boat Beach with son Max in 2005 for a 7-night rafting trip with AZRA. I've backpacked in the Grand Canyon NP many times with friends over the years. This trip log is significant as kind of a first for Nancy and a birthday hurrah for me. Nancy got a one-night Phantom Ranch reservation 3 weeks ago. She wanted to stay Phantom Ranch for years and I wanted a 79th birthday (5/22) present with Nancy.

Trip log: Drove up Friday and stayed at Maswick with dinner in El Tovar dining room. Early morning taxi to South Kaibab trailhead and hike down on Saturday. Stayed in dorms and steak dinner at Phantom Ranch Saturday (& Sunday breakfast). Hiked out Sunday on Bright Angel and enjoyed deviled eggs w/bacon & a drink in Bright Angel Lodge Bar that afternoon. Stayed at Best Western Premier Grand Canyon Squire Inn in Tusayan Sunday night and had a superb Mexican dinner at Plaza Bonita. Drove home Monday. No injuries. Sore legs. Did Havasupai shuffle Sunday and Monday!

NOTES:
Maswick Lodge is excellent. Everything works. Vast parking and can leave the car there while hiking. Short walk to/from Bright Angel Trailhead and other lodges and restaurants on the South Rim.

El Tovar Dining is traditional. Our 5th or so dinner there. Miss the Ringtails on the beams. I say do it. But as with most classic NP restaurants, ain't what it used to be. Did have venison though!
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South Kaibab Trail was hard. Wowza views but far too dangerous to look while walking. Nancy had knee therapy last summer including stem cells so used 2 poles and was very cautious. She could have drunk more water. I hike 2-3x per week in South Mountains with one pole and did same here. Glad we did it. Will not do it again. BTW, there are no poor views at the GC, just different ones.

Phantom Ranch was fine. I understand fewer than 1% of Grand Canyon visitors venture below the rim (Thank the Lord!) Must be a really tiny portion of the 1% who get to the River let alone sleep at Phantom Ranch. We thoroughly enjoyed the camaraderie of all the visitors and staff. What a superb bunch and vibrancy! And “Oh WoW!” there were half a dozen AZ Trail Riders carrying their bikes across the corridor trails on the AZ Trail! And I thought hiking was hard! Even met a small family from Nancy’s dad’s hometown and same high school in Ohio!

Phantom Ranch Meals were huge and good and great fellowship.

Phantom Ranch Dorms were amazing! First time I stayed in a dorm. Very comfortable (bunk) beds and bedding, a real toilet, hot water shower and wash basin, all inside each air-conditioned dorm. Knocked my socks off!

Ranger Programs – We didn’t attend any but I must say they have always been interesting to me and well worthwhile. We were just too beat and enjoying talking with other hikers about their experiences and origins Etc.

Bright Angel Trail is attractive because of Garden Creek and the upper canyon drainages. Gotta love the riparian areas’ contrast to dessert and ridgeline areas and trails (like South Kaibab). Surprised to learn there’s no water above Indian Garden. Fortunately, we had enough to get out safely. Nancy was much faster and better hydrated on the way out. I was the slow one going uphill.

Bright Angel Lodge Bar has always been my destination coming out on Bright Angel. Think about beer or pop, onion rings, and other hiker groups! No onion rings any more and only one other couple that we met on the trail. Still …… Tradition!

Best Western Premier Grand Canyon Squire Inn in Tusayan was ridiculous. We will never stay there again. Bed had been slept in and covered up. Tub/shower is the 2nd most dangerous I have seen in all the hotels and motels I have stayed in over 5 decades. None-existent manager. Staff untrained in customer service. $280 for the room. All the signs of a captive market. Baaa.

Plaza Bonita Mexican restaurant in Tusayan was terrific! Take some time with the menu and talk to the server. This plain looking place that we almost skipped turned out to be the real thing. Excellent choices of some fine Mexican dishes (plus all the tourist food), a full bar, and attentive and swift service. We’ll be back!

Hope this lengthy review helps some make better choices.

BTW our weather was near perfect. Rain top-to-bottom was forecast for the day after we left! See photo set.
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Wildflowers Observation Light
Flowers were starting up at this time.
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Mar 23 2019
nathanbrisk
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South Kaibab TrailNorthwest, AZ
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nathanbrisk
Hiking18.30 Miles 5,346 AEG
Hiking18.30 Miles   11 Hrs   24 Mns   2.14 mph
5,346 ft AEG   2 Hrs   52 Mns Break
 
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We took the South Kaibab trail to the Bright Angel campground, and we turned back north to Indian Garden then up to the Bright Angel trailhead.

Beautiful conditions in the Grand Canyon this last weekend. About 32deg at the trailhead and 65 at the canyon floor. South Kaibab is completely clear of snow/ice, but there is some slush/snow/ice for about a mile from the Bright Angel trailhead.

18.3 miles . . . not sure what I did wrong with the posting.
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Mar 09 2019
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Grand Canyon: South Rim-River-South Rim, AZ 
Grand Canyon: South Rim-River-South Rim, AZ
 
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Hiking17.70 Miles 4,720 AEG
Hiking17.70 Miles   7 Hrs   49 Mns   2.80 mph
4,720 ft AEG   1 Hour   30 Mns Break
 
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This is the second tine that Tracie, my intrepid hiking partner, and I have done this great hike.

We started on the South Rim at the South Kaibab TH; went down the South Kaibab Trail to the Colorado River; crossed over the river on the Black Bridge; then took the River Trail over to the North Kaibab Trail and went a short distance to Phantom Ranch where we stopped for a snack break; then we went back across the river on the Silver Bridge and took the Bright Angel Trail back up to the South Rim.

This turned out to be a perfect day for a hike: sunny, not too breezy, and a bit cool. There were a few people on the South Kaibab Trail, but not too many. There was hardly anyone down at Phantom Ranch. There were a number of hikers on the Bright Angel Trail, especially as we got closer to the top. Most hikers were either going down and back up from the Bright Angel TH, or had spent the night at Phantom Ranch and were coming back up to the Rim.
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Bright Angel - Tonto - South KaibabNorthwest, AZ
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Hiking13.70 Miles 3,809 AEG
Hiking13.70 Miles   6 Hrs   5 Mns   2.72 mph
3,809 ft AEG   1 Hour   3 Mns Break
 
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Tracie and I were meeting some friends to do a South Rim-River-South Rim hike, and since neither one of us had ever hiked the Tonto Trail, we decided to go up a day early and take in the Tonto Trail. We started at the South Kaibab TH and went down the South Kaibab Trail to just before the Tip Off. From there we went west on the Tonto Trail and hit the Bright Angel Trail about 1/4 mile below Indian Garden. Then we took the Bright Angel Trail back up to the South Rim.

We had some good weather on the hike: it was a bit cloudy and breezy, but there was no precipitation. There was a little bit of snow on the upper part of the Bright Angel Trail, but not enough to make me want to put on microspikes.

This was a great little hike -- I particularly enjoyed this section of the Tonto Trail. The trail was good to hike on, the scenery was awesome, and we only saw 2 other people on the trail.
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