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Jan 11 2018
Steph_and_Blake
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Mesquite YPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 11 2018
Steph_and_Blake
Hiking4.60 Miles 590 AEG
Hiking4.60 Miles   4 Hrs      1.31 mph
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The idea was to enjoy the day, get some exercise, and check out the drop-in point for Hose Canyon. Sounds simple, right? Not quite. From the get-go we had trouble finding the "trailhead" for the route we'd downloaded. There was no signage for the jeep road we were to follow (1827) and so, knowing the direction we were meant to travel, we headed out. After about 15 minutes, we checked our device and realized we weren't on the right road. So, we back-tracked to the vehicles. After searching around we found a second jeep road (again no signage) and assumed it to be the correct one. As before, we learned this was also not the correct road. ](*,) However, having gained some altitude at this point, we could now see the road we should have been traveling. We bush-whacked down a loose, sketchy hillside and made our way over to 1827. From there it was easy cruising. We didn't end up hiking the left arm of the "Y" since we'd already spent so much time on route-finding. Instead we just went out the right arm as from there we thought we'd have a view of Hose Canyon.

Along the way we enjoyed changing views of Black Cross Butte, Four Peaks, and the Ridgeline and, it being a jeep road, we weren't, for once (!), constantly on the look-out for thorny nasties. We lunched at the end of the "right arm" and tried to sort out the approach to Hose Canyon. It wasn't entirely obvious and will require more investigating.

All in all, we did accomplish our goals and learned the value of adapting to the situation at hand. Oh, and the smart idea of checking our GPS device closer to the outset.
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Jan 28 2015
TheNaviG8R
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 Mesa, AZ
Mesquite YPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 28 2015
TheNaviG8R
Hiking3.70 Miles 669 AEG
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CannondaleKid
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 Mesa, AZ
Mesquite Flat Wandering, AZ 
Mesquite Flat Wandering, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jan 16 2015
CannondaleKid
Hiking6.80 Miles 2,300 AEG
Hiking6.80 Miles   4 Hrs   32 Mns   1.56 mph
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A great day for wandering the ridges and washes in the Mesquite Flats area. Although I began with a number of mapped routes it didn't take a few hundred yards and I was stopped by the first pool and slot canyon. So from there on I would wander one direction or another until encountering an obstacle (cliff, pour-off, slot canyon or pool of water), at which time I'd scan around for the most interesting detour. Several of the detours required back-tracking when I came upon an obstacle that negated the detour.

But the more I wandered the more I felt I need to return and spend more time exploring the area in depth. When it is warmer and/or less water and I return wearing my Tevas I'll retrace my route through the deep-water areas.

I took a chance to shoot almost 15 minutes of wandering in a wash with my new Canon and somehow managed not to fall into a pool of water, which is how I've ruined three cameras previously.

The video edited to 14-1/2 minutes:
Wandering the washes in Mesquite Flats
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Jul 10 2014
CannondaleKid
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 Mesa, AZ
Peak 2545 - Salt River Corridor, AZ 
Peak 2545 - Salt River Corridor, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jul 10 2014
CannondaleKid
Hiking3.70 Miles 1,158 AEG
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After two days of sitting around I was getting restless again so high humidity or not, it was time to hike the trail. No wasted time to decide where to hike this time, I had unfinished business in the Canyon Lake area near Tortilla Flat... namely hiking to a large cave we had seen from a distance last week.

The only problem was, I wasn't sure in which drainage the cave was located and the satellite view didn't help due to the deep shadows. So based on the direction I was facing when I took the cave photos last week, I drew a line and chose the two most likely location and planned on beginning with the easiest to reach (not that either would be a walk-in-the-park).

Being so likely to change my plan before reaching the trailhead I had mapped out a few optional routes, one of which would bring me up the western slope of Peak 2545 on the off-chance I'd try to reach both possible cave sites and loop back across Peak 2545. The optional route would come in very handy during the hike.

Ok, time to beat feet. This time I drove all the way to the top of the hill at the west end of the Mesquite Y, only having to engage the diff lockers for one high step near the top. (I will kick myself later for driving all the way up... it just made for a longer climb at the end)

Not wanting to deal with the worst of the humidity I took my time getting out of the house and it was after 10 am before I began the hike. I could still feel the humidity but it was nothing like the last two hikes. Thankfully the first mile of the hike was downhill and I had a good breeze so it felt reasonably comfortable.

Because the drainage was thick or rugged, (or both at the same time) I followed game trails just above it whenever they were available. Later I will see and get a photo of a deer that was on the trail ahead of me.

At what should have been one of the easier/short bypasses, I managed to step on what appeared to be solid ground among some boulders (it looked like thick grass on dirt) but as I was standing still and scanning for the best route, my right foot dropped through. Thinking it was just a matter of pulling my foot back up and that would be it, I tried to do just that. But the green grass was not grass but a thick vine, which hooked my right ankle, and here goes...
Timber! ](*,)

Still ailing with a huge knot on my left knee-cap from my ill-fated El Recortado hike, as I was falling the first thing in mind was NOT to hit it on the boulder in front of me... So here goes, twist a little to the right, lean forward and BAM! The left side of my knee glanced off the boulder while I hit solid on my left wrist and hand (still holding the hiking pole), which I had across my chest just above my Canon camera and GPS, and by the sound of it I thought I smashed the camera if not the GPS as well.
Oh :pk: !

Thankfully (oh yeah?) the sound was my glasses hitting the boulder hard enough that my eyelids left imprints on the lenses! The only reason I didn't smash my nose was a void in the boulder just below where my glasses hit.
Whew! :y:

But... my foot is still caught in the vine so I kept falling to the side and ended up almost completely upside-down. The only way I was able to get out of my predicament was to take my brush clippers out of my pocket (good thing it wasn't inside my pack!) and cut the vine.

It took a few minutes before I was able to take stock of everything and realize how lucky I was not to have come off any worse... no broken bones or broken equipment. But the result of it all meant I would move extra carefully over the obstacles from here on.

Thinking all I had to do was move slower and be absolutely sure of each step and I would be fine, I began to gain my confidence again. But oh no... what else could happen? A bee attack?

Thankfully no bees were about today, however while I was stopped at another point to scan ahead, all of a sudden I felt an intense pain on top of my left hand and without taking a moment to wonder what it was I slapped it with my right hand only to have the same pain on my left ear, which I immediately slapped as well. And when I brought my right hand back I see there is a yellow hornet walking across my glove. I don't know why I didn't immediately smash it with my left hand, but I noticed it didn't seem to be acting aggressive (anymore!) so I just looked at it, looked around to see if there were any others about, then just shook my hand and it flew away.

Whew! Although a hornet can sting multiple times, it doesn't have a stinger that detaches and can stay in while pulsing more venom in like a bee. Small things to be thankful for? Still, my hand and left ear are hot and throbbing so I stopped long enough to put some hydro-cortisone cream on both (I had no Epi-pen or Benadryl) and hit the trail again. I would not see another hornet the rest of the day. I guess I was just lucky, huh?
:whistle:

Anyway, due to the deterioration of the terrain, the farther I went the tougher things got and I began to doubt I would reach my first possible cave location, let alone Canyon Lake, which would have been a bonus.

Yep, sure enough... after three climbing detours to bypass huge boulders and/or steep drops I reached series of slick-rock slots offering no detour so it was time to turn around.

Heading back I thought about all the bypasses I had taken and decided the slope up the 'back-side' of Peak 2545 looked more appealing. After checking my GPS I was within a few hundred feet of one of my optional routes so I decided to climb up to connect with it, even though I had no idea if the route would bring me to the top safely.

But after an ascent of about a hundred feet I hit a nice flat, open area, which would be the easiest part of the hike. And once up here I realized the cave I sought had to be in the next drainage, which at the moment didn't seem to deep. Ha! Sure fooled me... when I got to a point I could finally see the cave I was almost 500' above the canyon floor and the cave was probably 200' up the other side. It didn't take a moment and I realized it would be a no-go today and I began the ascent of the western slope of Peak 2545.

Not too big a deal to climb to the summit, but I did take time to rest in the shade a few times. Thankfully by this time the humidity had come down quite a bit and with another breeze it actually felt good. Once at the top I took a bunch of photos, a long video where I walked around due to the many Palo Verde trees that wouldn't allow standing still for the full panorama.

Ok, I'm just over a half-mile from the trailhead but there is no straight route. Either find a route down the southeastern slope of Peak 2545 and climb a LONG way back up to the trailhead, or take the long arc to the north and hit FR1827 on the way back. I chose the arc, only I took every possible shortcut until reconnecting with FR1827 near the end.

And now I'm kicking myself for parking at the top of the hill! :-({|=
I really could have done without this last climb, but at least I didn't have to fight any brush. When I finally reached the trailhead I found the 'half-mile' to the TH took 1.5 miles of hiking. But, I made it back safely (well, reasonably so, just wait a day or two) I didn't run short of fluids (no weight loss anyway) and I wasn't wiped out.

Taking a full assessment a day later...
- I never hit the knee-cap but the left knee has a new bruise on the outside
- The left wrist lost some skin but no pain or bruising
- Significant pain and bruising of the left hand (some from the hornet sting?)
- Hornet stings are more painful and the ear is redder and hotter today than last night
- Slight pain but no bruising on the upper chest
- A few new scratches on the lenses of my glasses but not a single tweak in the frame
- Camera & GPS ok... I'm surprised the interleaved lens 'cover' didn't break

Next hike? Tracey has decided she needs to come along and keep me out of trouble... fat chance of that!

With so many landmarks to see, it's no wonder I had photo-fever on this hike. Even after thinning out a bunch posted 107 photos on my website, which meant even more time to whittle down to the 50 I posted here on HAZ.

A 3-minute Peak 2500 summit panorama video is here:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/2r-hU5wGaeY
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Jul 04 2014
CannondaleKid
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 Mesa, AZ
The Point Overlook - Canyon Lake, AZ 
The Point Overlook - Canyon Lake, AZ
 
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CannondaleKid
Hiking2.60 Miles 1,168 AEG
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Tracey only had Friday off :-({|= and we didn't feel like driving any distance to cooler areas so we settled for a hike reasonably close to home, which meant we'd have a very early start.

The plan was to start from the 'Mesquite Y' area just past Tortilla Flat and head for Peak 2521 hoping for awesome views of 'both' sides of Canyon Lake. So much for plans, but more on that later.
:whistle:

Leaving home before 5 am there was no traffic to speak of on Apache Trail so that part was a breeze.
:y:
The first part of the adventure was the rough drive up Forest Road 1827 to the 'Y' where we turned left and continued to our designated trailhead shortly before a 2-foot step in the road.

By 6 am we were off and running... more like huffing up the hill. :sweat:
Although the temperature was mid 80's the humidity made itself known immediately and within 30 minutes I was already soaked from head to toe.
:sweat:
Another 15 minutes and it was decision time... between the humidity and my throbbing knee (from the injury on my El Recortado hike 11 days ago) we knew Peak 2521 just plain wasn't gonna happen today. So with a quick adjustment we headed for a Canyon Lake overlook hoping for a nice viewpoint on The Point Recreation Area on the other side of the lake.

The jaunt toward Canyon Lake wasn't too bad but when it came to the last 40-50' climb on the rough & rocky slope I knew it was asking bit too much so we settled for a saddle just below.

We took a short break then with two steep ascents and two descents ahead of us we began the trek back. Although the left knee was throbbing continuously I managed the ascents ok by putting more pressure on the right leg but the descents were brutal.
Never before have I felt so thoroughly whipped on such a short hike, but the humidity sure played its part today!
:sweat:
Although I drank a gallon of fluids immediately before/during/after the hike I still lost 4 pounds. And by the weight of my clothes when I threw them in the washing machine it felt like a good deal of it was still soaked in the clothes.

Sorry, no videos this trip, but I'll definitely be back out that way when it's cooler and much lower humidity.

I really hoped to get to the planned destination today but then it was nice to be back home well before noon and have a relaxing day, catching up on my reading (I've got a dozen books checked out of the library) and best of all, watching Wingsuit Warrior on Netflix. Great shots of the guys in the flying squirrel suits, including one of them clipping his thighs on a rock outcrop flying down from Table Mountain in South Africa and not only living to tell about it but getting back out again some 6 months later to try to kill himself again. While it sure looks cool flying in those suits I'm just fine never having the experience... I'll keep my feet closer to the ground, thank you!
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Peak 3042 - Mormon Flat Dam Quad, AZ 
Peak 3042 - Mormon Flat Dam Quad, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jun 01 2014
CannondaleKid
Hiking3.20 Miles 1,139 AEG
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Of the 19 300' prominence peaks in the Mormon Flat Dam Quadrangle I've managed to bag the 11 easiest ones, so now it's time to knock out a few of the tough ones. The four which are north of the Salt River are more remote so I plan on tackling the four south of the river first beginning with the Peak 3042. It just happens to be another peak with its elevation marked incorrectly on most maps at 3402. But no matter what the actual elevation, knowing just how rugged the terrain is, my plan was simply to scout out various routes in preparation for the actual attempt. Not trying to do it in one shot left me open to spend more time checking out alternate routes to find the best (easiest/shortest) route to the summit.

I left home a bit later than I should have, which just meant I spent more time following vehicles pulling boats out to Canyon Lake. Oh well, I wasn't in any hurry so I just enjoyed the views. Just north of Tortilla Flat I turned off onto FR1827 and began the rough drive out to the end of Mesquite 'Y' where I would start the hike. I took a quick look around to get an idea of the various possible routes then set out for a higher point for a good view over the canyon. Nice view up there but I gained information of little help due to so many outcrops blocking any view of the canyon floor. So I back-tracked in hopes of an easy descent, although I doubt easy will be a word I can use accurately anywhere out here. Less difficult is about as good as it will get.

Although I found what appeared a way to get partway down, it took a while before I could work my way to the level, having to climb back up to avoid the upper of two pour-offs. Eventually I was able to find a narrow ledge that allowed me to cross to a good place to drop down. Into a wide drainage with evidence of well-used game trails I had hopes this route would be the one.

Close, but not close enough to being THE route. From here it would be a a seemingly endless monotony of descending over/around/through a series of boulders, pour-offs and thick brush until there simply was no way to descend the last 120'. I do believe I could have made it down the next forty feet by sliding back and forth down a narrow pour-off, even if I did know what was below it (which I didn't) I knew the chance of climbing back up the pour-off was pretty close to zero.

So close, yet so far... so I climbed back up a hundred feet or so to a spot where I could sit down and have my PB&J lunch. After lunch I took a few photos, a quick video pan and set off on the slog back up. I shot video of the full climb on my GoPro but knowing it would put most people to sleep, I just posted the pan from my lunch spot.
Peak 3042 Recon video:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/fF6ZmGPT5wg

On the return leg, after returning as far as the mesa I took a different route so I could check out one other option, although by satellite view it did not give my any hope. Sure enough, it was a narrow slot with a 35-40' drop to a pool of unknown depth followed by climbing some huge boulders and then who knows what on the other side for what had to have been another 100' drop to the canyon floor.

From there I lit out for the TH, only to make a wrong turn and get side-tracked... but then if I hadn't, I wouldn't have found a couple large caves. The second was a deep overhang with a spring so it brought a welcome coolness with a breeze to provide momentary respite from the high of 105° while crossing a wide open 'bowl' not long before. From the cave it was a quick climb up to FR1827 and a short walk back to the TH.

After reaching Apache Trail I drove a half-mile farther out then turned onto the old Apache Trail and followed it to where an old bridge had washed out, what, maybe 50 or more years ago? A few photos and I headed for home... or shall I say I added the Cherokee to the long queue of vehicles for the drive back to AJ. With vehicles of all kinds heading both directions I figured this was one time where 25 mph would be the fastest I'd see for miles... and I was correct... many times it was more like 5 mph, but then what did I expect for a Sunday?

I posted 50 photos on HAZ, the full set of 75 is on my website as usual.

I didn't find a short route, so if anything I'll start from FR80 and follow the creek bed until one of the possible spots to climb up the other side. If that doesn't work, well that's ok too.
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Mesquite YPhoenix, AZ
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Charger55
Hiking4.50 Miles 590 AEG
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I did the east fork of the Y first. The hike description is right; the views are better here than on the west fork. From the west fork I dropped down the backside and climbed to the plateau high above Inspiration Point. Whoops! I went too high and couldn't get off the plateau from the other side. I had to backtrack my way through a cholla minefield and across a ridge to reach Inspiration Point. Good views of Tortilla Flat from the ridge. A few more weeks and it'll be too hot to do these off-trail routes.
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Jan 24 2012
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Mesquite YPhoenix, AZ
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Y........yes, what Joe said. We went a little further checking out a slot canyon that boys and girls with rope would surely enjoy. This is a great area with interesting geology, best of all absent of other people.
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sventre
Hiking4.60 Miles 590 AEG
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The temperatures have finally cooled down enough to enjoy desert hiking around Tortilla Flats. This morning as I hiked Joe's route I noted that the creek which at some points flows alongside the trail some 75 feet below was dry and coated with dessicated algae. I figured that would make an interesting alternate return route; and so, on the trek back to the trailhead I diverted course at the point where the "jeep trail" becomes faint and hopped over the small dam structure slighty northeast of that point. This put me right into the winding curves and steep canyon walls of a creek which ultimately dumped me out at the flats. Of course, it took considerably longer time to complete the route but was well worth the detour. My hiking buddy wouldn't agree since creeping along canyon walls makes him nervous, unlike his sister who will try anything.
The whole area is worthy of future "off trail" exploration.
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Mesquite YPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking4.60 Miles 590 AEG
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