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Aug 03 2020
tibber
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65 female
 Joined Feb 26 2004
 Phoenix, AZ
Old Caves Crater and Half Loop, AZ 
Old Caves Crater and Half Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Aug 03 2020
tibber
Hiking3.66 Miles 626 AEG
Hiking3.66 Miles   2 Hrs   7 Mns   1.91 mph
626 ft AEG      12 Mns Break
 
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Monday, This was the last hike of our cooler time in Flagstaff. After Ambika found a "sub" for her as she wasn't coming into work we headed out for the Silver Saddle TH. On the way I noticed a three mile back up for road construction on the other side of the road. Sadly, I would have to wade through that after our hike. I don't know how long they are planning that road work but beware of it on 89a coming west into Flagstaff on weekdays.

The guide for the Old Caves Crater hike is somewhat discouraging so I actually had to do a little convincing. I found an article online that I think discusses this trail a lot more accurately as it turns out. I sent it to Ambika and she agreed. The TH is not that big as is indicated so you can use the Landfill TH as an alternate. However, hiking up from that side (north) is a little steeper and narrower as we would see when we hiked down.

This trail from Silver Saddle is a delight. Nice and wide and the switchbacks are at a very leisurely grade. It's a well-maintained trail on this side. Before our ascent we saw a HUGE fallen tree that had been split down the middle; I assume by lightning. We headed up the hill via off and on shade. As you near what you think is the top, the trail contours alongside this part and then turns to the east and then up a bit before the trail comes to a bit of a junction. If you go right, you can see the caves.... I didn't realize that so we just stayed on the main trail which goes left (north) to the summit. And the reason we know we missed the caves is we visited with a hiker up there.

The 360 views are pretty amazing and it was a clear day so we could see SE all the way to the Rim. I think I filmed a 360 when I was on top. We took some pics before heading down the north side. This trail is more like a regular trail. It is a little steep and slippery so you have to hang on. We got to the bottom and took the circumference around to the right (clockwise). We saw a squirrel but he was a fast little guy so I just basically got the moooned shot. The ground once again changes to the lava dirt/sand as we made our way around. There are scattered houses just to the east of where you hike. We did have a horseback rider go by and would see a few more at the TH. I think there is a stable over here for public riding.

It did warm up by the time we got back to the junction of the summit and circumference trail. We saw about 1/2 dozen hikers. We grabbed some snacks and a beer from our vehicles and went under the shade of a ponderosa before going our separate ways. This hike would be a great work-out hike as you can vary it up. Anyway, it was fun to climb a crater; how often can you say you've done that :) . Here is my video: [ youtube video ]
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May 22 2020
azbackpackr
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68 female
 Joined Jan 21 2006
 Tucson AZ
Old Caves Crater TrailFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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azbackpackr
Hiking3.46 Miles 940 AEG
Hiking3.46 Miles
940 ft AEG
 
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I hiked up to the summit, down the back side (Landfill side) trail, and back up to summit again. Gorgeous day! It being Friday of Memorial Day weekend, I saw several people who may have not been my Doney Park neighbors, but it still was not crowded.

I was not able to upload GPS route, because it needed to be split, (because I forgot to turn off the GPS when I drove away). When I split it, the half I needed simply disappeared. I saw the notice that something is being worked on right now, but it didn't say this specific thing. So I used my data from a previous similar hike.
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May 21 2020
azbackpackr
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68 female
 Joined Jan 21 2006
 Tucson AZ
Old Caves Crater TrailFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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azbackpackr
Hiking2.51 Miles 527 AEG
Hiking2.51 Miles   1 Hour   21 Mns   1.96 mph
527 ft AEG      4 Mns Break
 
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Quick hike midday. Nice day, not windy!
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May 18 2020
azbackpackr
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 Joined Jan 21 2006
 Tucson AZ
Old Caves Crater TrailFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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azbackpackr
Hiking3.79 Miles 693 AEG
Hiking3.79 Miles   1 Hour   42 Mns   2.53 mph
693 ft AEG      12 Mns Break
 
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This time, after climbing to the summit, and down the other side, I caught the east part of the circumference loop, just to do something different. At some point I will probably hike to the summit, then do the entire circumference loop, and then hike back the other way over the summit. After that, I will probably be pretty tired of this trail!

It's an extremely windy day, but it wasn't bad at all in the woods. Wasn't even particularly bad on the top.
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Cliff roses. This other thing is starting to bloom, on sort of a vine with red stems. Going to look it up. Flowers are magenta.
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May 17 2020
azbackpackr
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 Joined Jan 21 2006
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Old Caves Crater TrailFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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azbackpackr
Hiking3.46 Miles 940 AEG
Hiking3.46 Miles   1 Hour   48 Mns   2.12 mph
940 ft AEG      10 Mns Break
 
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First time I've hiked up, then down the north side, then back up again. I'm getting slightly fitter than I was last week, although I'm in the process of moving, and have skipped several days of exercise.
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Cliff roses have started blooming.
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May 10 2020
azbackpackr
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 Tucson AZ
Old Caves Crater TrailFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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azbackpackr
Hiking2.62 Miles 529 AEG
Hiking2.62 Miles   1 Hour   23 Mns   2.04 mph
529 ft AEG      6 Mns Break
 
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This was my first hike in the high country this season. I'll be living up here all summer, so I will eventually get used to the altitude. In my current state of waddlesome sloth, this trail is perfect. My legs, accustomed to pedaling a bike, were somewhat surprised to be asked to climb a small hill.

I started at 7 a.m. No cars in the lot. By the time I returned there were 12 cars, and I'd had to avoid some family groups by walking through the trees.

I was pleased I had no aches or pains (foot, knee, hip, back, etc.) which tend to happen while hiking downhill. The plan is to continue doing small hikes for a couple of weeks, then add a wee bit bigger one, etc. You know the drill.
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Indian paintbrush, occasional.
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Sep 02 2019
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45 male
 Joined Jun 20 2003
 Tucson, AZ
Old Caves Crater TrailFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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fricknaley
Hiking3.70 Miles 665 AEG
Hiking3.70 Miles
665 ft AEG
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waiting out some storms, found this little trail network late in the day. pretty cool little place with some nice views at the top and nice trail tread
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Sep 09 2017
leonesiegel
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 Joined Jan 15 2010
 Scottsdale, AZ
Old Caves Crater TrailFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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leonesiegel
Hiking2.40 Miles 500 AEG
Hiking2.40 Miles   1 Hour   45 Mns   1.60 mph
500 ft AEG      15 Mns Break
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Fun little trail, like to do it again. Cool temps in the 60s.
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Jan 19 2017
Stoic
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 Joined Dec 30 2007
 Avondale,Az
Crystal Point TrailFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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Hiking7.20 Miles 1,065 AEG
Hiking7.20 Miles   8 Hrs      1.80 mph
1,065 ft AEG   4 Hrs    Break
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Took the pups up to Flagstaff last Thursday. We did a couple hikes around town.
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Crystal Point 7190 Grand Falls
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Nov 25 2016
MountainMatt
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 Joined Jan 24 2016
 Arizona
Old Caves Crater TrailFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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MountainMatt
Hiking2.82 Miles 522 AEG
Hiking2.82 Miles   1 Hour   53 Mns   2.17 mph
522 ft AEG      35 Mns Break10 LBS Pack
 
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Went back home to see the family for Turkey Day so I went to my backyard and hiked "Cave Hill" as I grew up calling it.
For 18 years this was my stomping grounds, although I've only actually hiked the trail maybe 3 times because as a kid we just came up from the backside of the hill from the nearby neighborhoods.
So many memories and so much mischief was caused up here when I was younger. :D
Dislocated my collar bone and broke my mo-ped jumping off a ramp down the slopes, countless epic sledding tournaments and so many more foolish acts were done on this little hill.
Good memories growing up in Doney Park.
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Jun 13 2016
azbackpackr
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 Joined Jan 21 2006
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Old Caves Crater TrailFlagstaff, AZ
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azbackpackr
Hiking2.63 Miles 535 AEG
Hiking2.63 Miles   1 Hour   15 Mns   2.43 mph
535 ft AEG      10 Mns Break
 
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This was a nice hike to do on my errand day in Flagstaff. I climbed O'Leary yesterday, which I could see from the top of this hill. Met some nice folks from a local DTA having a cheery good time with their instructor.
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O'Leary Peak
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May 22 2014
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 Flagstaff, AZ
Old Caves Crater TrailFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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Hiking2.40 Miles 500 AEG
Hiking2.40 Miles   1 Hour   15 Mns   2.40 mph
500 ft AEG      15 Mns Break
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Very smooth and accessible trail just East of Flag on the 89. Very close to town but still quiet enough on the trek up to feel like you're in your own world. Huge, very old Ponderosas line the trail before coming to the switchbacks which are still relatively easy. There's some really nice views of the surrounding area on the way up before coming to a T where the right leads to caves and the left to the summit. I went left and came to a clearing at the very top facing the East slope of Mt. Elden with Humphreys just off to the right - really spectacular views! I chatted with other hikers at the top for 15-20 minutes before heading back down. All in all an easy hike about an hour round trip. I didn't bring water or need it but would have enjoyed having a bottle on the way up.
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Nov 02 2013
nikorock28
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 Joined Nov 16 2010
 Kingman, AZ
Old Caves Crater TrailFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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Hiking2.40 Miles 500 AEG
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500 ft AEG
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Hike with a friend. Would be a convenient little workout if you lived in the area.
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Jul 19 2012
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 Joined Feb 22 2009
 Mesa, AZ
Old Caves Crater TrailFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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Hiking2.40 Miles 500 AEG
Hiking2.40 Miles   1 Hour   20 Mns   1.80 mph
500 ft AEG
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Needing a break from the heat of Phoenix we took a road trip today to Flagstaff. We wanted to do a hike while up there and chose this one. It was a decent enough hike but I don't think I'd go out of my way to do it again. Being used to Sonoran Desert hiking this is quite a change though. The crushed cinder trail surface, the Ponderosa Pine trees, hiking without sweating buckets... :D
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 Joined May 30 2008
 Peoria, AZ
Old Caves Crater TrailFlagstaff, AZ
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Hiking3.00 Miles 640 AEG
Hiking3.00 Miles   1 Hour   30 Mns   2.00 mph
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Met up with Joel and Daisy, Brian's dog, for a short hike around noon. A little windy up top but still a nice day. Had a really enjoyable time getting out into the forest for a while. Went up the main summit trail and down the other side toward the Landfill Road TH before turning onto the loop trail around the west side of the crater. We got kind of distracted in conversation and ended up walking off the trail for a while before finding the main trail again. Thanks again for meeting me, Joel.
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Feb 06 2011
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 Phoenix, AZ
Old Caves Crater TrailFlagstaff, AZ
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JoelHazelton
Hiking3.00 Miles 500 AEG
Hiking3.00 Miles   2 Hrs      1.50 mph
500 ft AEG
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After getting sick while romping around snowbowl in snowshoes the day before, I decided to take it easy. I had actually planned on laying around most of the day, but since I was in Flagstaff still, Jake managed to convince me to go hiking with him (mostly by saying he wasn't feeling too hot either and it would just be an easy hike). Glad he did, too! I dragged Daisy the pup out of the sick house (my sister and her husband were lying around feeling miserable as well) and met Jake at Old Caves Crater Trail. We climbed a couple summits and spent some time off-trail. We had a nice hike and I felt much better afterward, so I beelined down to Sedona for some more hiking :D Good to hike with Jake again!
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Jan 09 2011
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Old Caves Crater TrailFlagstaff, AZ
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hippiepunkpirate
Hiking2.50 Miles 580 AEG
Hiking2.50 Miles      52 Mns   2.88 mph
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Dec 27 2010
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 Flagstaff, AZ
Old Caves Crater TrailFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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Hiking2.40 Miles 500 AEG
Hiking2.40 Miles      45 Mns   3.20 mph
500 ft AEG
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Went with wife/kids and 2 of her friends and kids. As well as Joe the Labrador.

Only a few miles from my house...I've done this before, but the with the kids there got a better feel for what is there. Kids LOVED this place...lots of hideouts and exploring.

There currently are 2 geocaches at the top...

Cold day, great views of Doney Park and Timberline.
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hippiepunkpirate
Hiking2.40 Miles 500 AEG
Hiking2.40 Miles   1 Hour      2.40 mph
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Jim_H
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 Marana, AZ
Old Caves Crater TrailFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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Jim_H
Hiking2.40 Miles 500 AEG
Hiking2.40 Miles      55 Mns   2.62 mph
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I waited too long to cool down to take this in after Elden and the sun was hazing out the Schultz Burn. Fortunately, this is a pretty neat trail and one that I think deserves more attention. It is a little nicer than the Fat Man, and part of that is the lower use level. I like the forest, too. I did both summits and spent a few minutes looking at the caves on top. I think the lower, or caved summit is more interesting than the higher summit.
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