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Aug 12 2020
DixieFlyer
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 Fountain Hills,
Buck Springs Cabin, AZ 
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Hiking11.10 Miles 1,985 AEG
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This was day #2 of my 2 day car camping/hiking trip near the Cabin Loop area of the Mogollon Rim. From my campsite, I drove down to where the Barbershop Trail crosses FR139 and parked there.

I wanted to check out Buck Springs Cabin, so I headed east on the Barbership Trail and took it all the way to the cabin. The cabin is about 400-500' east of where the Barbership Trail crosses FR 137.

There were lots of ups and downs on the Barbership Trail -- the trail goes down and back up several canyons and draws. The trail was generally in great shape and I really enjoyed the hike.

There were actually 2 cabins -- both were about the same size, but one looked much larger because it had a front porch on it.

Once I got back to my vehicle, I continued on the Barbershop Trail for a short distance to the Barbershop-Houston Brothers junction, and then went back to where I parked.

After the hike I was going to Flagstaff, so instead of driving out on the Rim Road, I took FR139 north to FR95, and then took FR95 to Highway 87. I would much rather drive on FR139 and FR95 than on Rim Road 300.
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Dane Canyon
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Aug 11 2020
DixieFlyer
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Pinchot Cabin from Camp Grasshopper, AZ 
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Hiking13.10 Miles 1,411 AEG
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I was wanting to check out a couple of cabins on the Cabin Loop that I had not been to, so I decided to camp at the excellent Camp Grasshopper #2 site on the rim, and hike for a couple of days.

This was day 1, so I drove in and set up my tent, and then I decided to hike to the Pinchot Cabin. I went north on FR 139C until it ended, and then made an off-trail descent down to a spring where Barbershop Canyon and Merritt Draw meet. There I picked up the U-Bar Trail and took it to Pinchot Cabin. This was a very nice trail to hike on. The cabin was nice to check out, but it sure needs a new roof.

I had thought about doing a loop by taking the Houston Brothers Trail south to the Barbershop Trail, and then taking FR139 and FR139C back to Camp Grasshopper. That would have added 2+ miles to the hike, and it was getting a bit late, so I decided to just retrace my steps back. Of course, I missed a turn to the trail and walked on a forest road longer than I should have. So I checked out my map and GPS track and went off-trail for a ways to FR139 just below the U-Bar Trail, and then took it back to U-Bar. I don't think that my mistake added more than 1/4 mile to the hike.

This is a nice area to hike in, and I imagine that I will go back there sometime for some more exploration. It did not look like anyone had been to Camp Grasshopper since my one-night stay there the previous week.
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Pinchot Spring
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Aug 07 2020
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Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
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I started around noon on Friday from the Houston Draw parking cutout and made my way to Pinchot cabin to start the east side Cabin Loop going clockwise. Starting mid-day on the exposed section of the U-Bar was not my brightest move of the day. Just before FR139, I saw the only other person of the day, a mountain biker going counter-clockwise. He gave me a heads-up about the joys Barbershop Canyon but it didn't quite register until my knees were barking at the stairstep boulders on the trail into the canyon. It was absolutely gorgeous down there with Barbershop Creek flowing pretty well. After climbing out then going down and up in Dane Canyon, I made my way to Dane Spring for a well needed refill of my water supply. Sitting for a couple minutes and eyeing the campsites, I decided I was done for the day. The spring and cabin remains made it a very memorable campsite.

I ran into many groups going CCW on Saturday as I finished the loop. The only trouble I had with route finding was when I ran into car campers on the U-Bar that had their easy-up next to the trail sign. I had missed it as I tried to avoid their campsite. The stretch of Barbershop Trail by Coyote Springs was very pleasant with a good amount of water in the drainage. I stopped for lunch at Barbershop spring and regretted not bringing a scoop to get water out of the pools. Had I not been spoiled by the flowing water at the other sources, I would have thought Barbershop spring was a good source. As that was not the case, it was mildly frustrating. The rollers from where Houston Brothers meets Barbershop to where Houston Bros starts the long downhill section reminded me how much I enjoy heavy roots on the trail. The coast from where the rollers stop to Aspen Springs was wonderful with plenty of water and hip high ferns. I had not been to Aspen Springs since 2012 so I was saddened to see the hay barn is in much worse shape though it is still a cool site along the trail.

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Great flow from the pipe.

dry McClintock Spring Dry Dry
Either dry or I couldn't find it.
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Aug 04 2020
DixieFlyer
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Fred Haught Trail #141Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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DixieFlyer
Hiking15.30 Miles 1,480 AEG
Hiking15.30 Miles   6 Hrs   8 Mns   2.75 mph
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1st trip
Having car camped the night before, I decided to hike on part of the cabin loop on the Fred Haught Trail, which I had never hiked on before. From my campsite, I took the Rim Road to just past the turnoff to FR 95, and went on a forest raod to the left (I think it is FR 194, but I can't remember). I parked farther off of the Rim Road than I needed to, but I was at a nice shady spot -- which was a good place for a well-deserved post-hike cold adult beverage!

I took part of the General Crook Trail over to the Fred Haught Trail. After about a half mile on the Fred Haught Trail I stopped at the nicely restored General Springs Cabin. From there, I continued hiking and eventually came to the spur trail for the Fred Haught Cabin. I went to this cabin, but all that is left of it is the chimney.

From there I went back to the Fred Haught Trail and decided to head toward the Pinchot Cabin. Trail signage indicated that the Pinchot Cabin was only about 2.5 miles away; however, it was quite a bit farther than that. I continued on the Fred Haught Trail to the point where the trail continued on FR 95 through a hairpin turn. By this time I had already gone 8.5 miles, and in looking at my GPS I figured that the Pinchot Cabin was a good mile away. That would have given me more mileage than I was looking for on this day, so I decided to turn around and head back. Rather than completely retracing my steps, once I got to a trail crossing on FR 95, I took 95 back to the Rim Road and my vehicle. FR 95 seemed to stay on a ridge between Fred Haught Canyon and Bear Canyon. I hiked part of the time on the road(which was in the mid-day sun) and part of the time 100-200 feet off the road to enjoy a mix of sun and shade.

I really enjoyed hiking on the Fred Haught Trail -- the trail was very well maintained and it was nice to hike on. The trail went through a forest that had been well-maintained: trees had been thinned out and most of the underbrush was gone, and the trees were very healthy looking!

I saw a good bit of bear scat on the trail, but no bears. The only wildlife that I saw was an elk that I caught a glimpse of while hiking on FR 95.

I have never driven on the western section of the Rim Road before, and it was in much worse shape than I thought it would be. 4WD was not needed, but the road was a bit rough in a number of places.

This was a nice couple of days up on the Rim. I hiked for 2 days and car camped for one night, and I never saw another human the entire time.
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Jul 31 2020
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Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
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I Made 5 hour round trip to mile marker 239 on HWY 87 northbound today. I hit the stoppage at mile marker 238. Made a u-turn just past marker 239 an hour later. I read the crash was at marker 246. I didn't want to hit the rim road at 10PM. ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)
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Jul 13 2020
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Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Backpack22.10 Miles 2,603 AEG
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1st trip
This was my first backpacking trip in a couple of years. I went by myself, camping two nights. I had never been to the area before. Believe it or not, I'd never been on Road 300, except maybe way over by Heber. The closest I'd been to this area (other than driving 87 and 99) was car camping at Rock Crossing and also kayak camping at Blue Ridge reservoir.

I didn't take my better camera, just the little waterproof Fujifilm, so the images suffer. I really need to get myself a better pocket camera, maybe a Canon Powershot, or a Nikon waterproof.

Day 1: Parked at General Springs cabin. This cabin has been restored to the standard that all the others SHOULD be restored to, lest they fall down pretty quick. The fastest way to destroy a log building (other than by forest fire) is to let it have a leaky roof. I think I am going to write a letter to the Supe. There are volunteers who will do this work. John Azar comes to mind, but there are others as well. (I seem to recall a certain Hazzer did a restoration on one of them, without permission?? Can't remember who. This was quite a few years ago?? Is this person still around? PM me if so.)

I started up the AZT/Fred Haught trail. Didn't meet any hot Freds, alas, but eventually, not far from the washed-out part, I met a backpacker named James, who said it was his very first backpacking trip. He was doing fine with it. Very nice guy. We chatted a while. He gave me good advice about crossing the gully where the bridge washed out.

Once I had settled into hiking with the big pack again, I started feeling happy with the hike, with the terrain, the plants, trees and singing birds. The trail tread was good, and the trail's followability, if that's a word, was easy. Even after the AZT peels off, the Fred trail is easy to follow. This kind of surprised me, as I seem to recall reading that route-finding skills might be needed. I did have it loaded into my GPS, but didn't need that. I also had the Guthook for the AZT in my cell phone, which I peeked at occasionally. The pack wasn't too bad, less than 30 pounds, but not much less. Water is heavy, and I did carry some. I don't have the SUL thing quite dialed in, though. But I do have a Nemo Hornet 2, a sub 2 pound freestanding tent, so la-di-da!

Meeting James on his first trip made me think. I don't know how many backpacking trips I have done, but the first one was about 49 years ago, in the spring of 1971, as I recall, with my good friend Ray (who is still my friend). We went to Alder Canyon in Anza-Borrego. That trip resulted in many blisters on my feet, plus bruises on my hips and shoulders, but I couldn't wait to go again. At that time I had a Camp Trails blaze orange aluminum frame backpack, a Sierra Designs sleeping bag, and a Svea white gas stove. I was 18, if I have the date right. (It might be 48 years/1972/19 years old. Ray doesn't remember, either.)

Meanwhile, back on the Fred trail, I reached the place where the bridge is washed out. It was not difficult to follow the "hiker workaround" to cross it. After hiking around 8 miles, I made camp across the creek from the Pinchot Cabin. This cabin is in dire need of a new roof. If a roof is not installed, the cabin will rot, and this nice little piece of our heritage will just become a crumbling pile of logs. Please do write to the superintendent about this, and the other cabins. I intend to do so as well.

My camp was very nice and flat, next to the stream. I made my little home in the woods as comfy as possible.

I had brought only a Steripen, which worked fine. It was the first time I had ever tried one. I am not convinced it's such a great thing, however. But it works fine in clear water. I used my cup to fill my Nalgene bottle, so that I wouldn't contaminate the rim of the bottle with untreated water. This is the bad thing about the Steripen. You definitely don't want to dip the bottle into the creek, and then use the pen in it. You have to have one container you are willing to contaminate, in order to fill the one you are going to treat. I carefully poured water from my cup into the bottle, then treated it. I wasn't worried about the metal cup, because I would not be using it until I cooked dinner in it, killing any germs. I'm thinking about getting a different water treatment. I have one of those squeeze bag things, don't like it. I have a Katadyn, which is big and heavy, I use for kayak trips. I have an old Hiker Pur, too heavy as well. How about an MSR miniworks? Any recommendations?

I spent the afternoon playing my ukulele, singing badly, and reading a memoir about bicycling across the US. I have Kindle loaded onto my phone, and it always serves me well on camping trips. I fell asleep about 7, and didn't get up until 6 a.m. This is a very long sleep for me! I slept great.

Day 2: I lazed about camp, and as I recall, I didn't get started hiking the second day until about 9 a.m. or so. First, I walked back over near the cabin, and got onto the Houston Brothers Trail. I had in mind I would check out McFarland Spring as a possible camping spot, but when I got there, it was too early in the day, and I had not covered enough ground. I reasoned I might be dry camping that night, so I filled up my bottles, making my pack a bit heavy, and waddled on. There was one cabin I passed that didn't have a sign with a name for it. It was at Aspen Spring, as I recall. It also is being left to rack and ruin, although at least it has a metal roof. There are so many people with skills who would love to volunteer time to fix these cabins, it just boggles my mind it hasn't been done. There are people with pack mules who would help bring supplies in, just for the fun of it.

There was another backpacker camping at Aspen Spring. I had seen him pass my camp the evening before. We never did speak. I saw him a total of 3 times, always at a distance.

I passed a couple of day hikers, going the opposite direction. We stopped to chat briefly. They were car camping near Pinchot Cabin. I didn't see anyone else the rest of the day.

Eventually, the Houston Brothers trail leaves the riparian area and starts cutting across the grain of the land. So, you go up and down and up and down and up and down. Uhhhhhhh. And up and down and up and down... Not having a topo map (both my and my daughter's printers are on the blink) but only the GPS route, I had a hard time really visualizing what was coming up. I just figured I had better hike at least 6 miles or more. I passed the junction with the Barbership Trail. Since Covid-19 is happening, I am doing my own hairdressing, (with frightening results), so I opted out of looking for a haircut, and soldiered on along the Houston Bros. trail.

I'd stopped earlier to treat a blister. I was tired, it was kind of hot, and I decided, around 2 p.m. or so, to look for a flat spot with lots of shade to camp. I ended up in a copse of Gambel Oaks, a place where elk had bedded down, next to a fenced-off area. There are a number of these areas, fenced to keep the elk and cattle out, to allow the land to recover. It was not a great campsite, but I made do. I saw no one else that day. It was really early, but I was tired. I kept myself busy, reading, writing in my notebook, and scaring the bears away with my singing and playing the uke.

Little did I know, if I had only hiked up another small hill I would have found a much better campsite. Oh, well. I made that place work for me.

Day 3: I have a peculiar form of insomnia. I wake up at 2 or 3 a.m., and cannot get back to sleep. This actually serves me well on camping trips if I want an early start, and I did. I got up at 3 a.m., set up my Luci Lite, donned my headlamp, and started taking the camp down, making coffee, etc. I didn't hurry. I read a bit, drinking my coffee, and by the time I was ready to go, I could see my feet without the headlamp on. I started hiking at 5 a.m. I reached Road 300 near 6 a.m. I had thought there might be a portion of what @Jim_H calls the "Generally Crooked Trail" to follow, but I did not see it. I walked along the road. Very soon I saw Milepost 16. I was also seeing lots of great views. I saw no vehicles at all for some time, not even people camping. About Mile 14 I noticed that the Crook Trail was paralleling the road, so I walked on it. It has recently been worked with a little machine in that section, one of those mini-tractors, I'd guess. Soon, it crossed 300, went along for a bit, but then led back to 300 and disappeared. Eventually I ran into a big crew of people from Arizona Conservation Corps, out of Flagstaff, who are working on the trail. They directed me to a new section of it that goes toward General Springs Cabin. They were working that section with hand tools. I complimented them on their work.

The ACC camp was set up at General Springs Cabin area, which was where Wanda the Honda (2006 CR-V) was waiting for me. As always, at the end of a hike, I just want to go home and take a shower. So, I did.

Yes, and of course, I now want to go back and do the other half of the Cabin Loop, to include the U-Bar and Barbershop trails. I may start at the north end for that loop. I am not sure when I'll have time to do it, but I'm hoping to go in August or September.

Thanks to all who posted info and GPS tracks for this hike. I hope my rambling essay is helpful as well.
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Jun 12 2020
jacobemerick
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 Gilbert, AZ
East Cabin Loop, AZ 
East Cabin Loop, AZ
 
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Backpack17.80 Miles 2,600 AEG
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First backpack with kiddos. Car-camped Thursday evening on 321C, great night sleep to the sound of coyotes yipping away down at some spring. Headed up U-Bar on Friday morning with frequent breaks along the way to rest short legs, including an entire hour at Barbershop Canyon for Mac 'n Cheese lunch and crawfish hunting. Afternoon sun and distance began to wear on them over the next few hours, and it was real struggle to reach Aspen Spring for camp. Another great night, one minor elk interruption that spooked the littlest, and we got moving early and knocked out the rest of Houston Brother Trail with no issue. The roller coaster of Barbershop Trail exhausted them and, when we eventually reached the Jeep, there was great rejoicing. Oh, and the loop had dozens and dozens of deadfall, most of which would not bother most hikers but are sizable obstacles for kids.

Crowds: six groups on Friday, only 4 on Saturday, was expecting more up there.
Gear that absolutely did not work: wag bag. 3 growing kids quickly overpowered any sort of odor protection. Next time I'm just bringing a trowel. Ugh.
General ponder: been working on distance with them this year and, while it paid off, 18m over two days was too much. Think I need to revisit our gear (my 65L was overflowing with their tent/sleeping bags/pad) and pack more food so we can slow down. Three days for this loop would have been a lot more enjoyable for them.

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May 15 2020
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Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
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Started up Colonel Devin from a full parking lot at WP on Friday at 2PM. The road section is nice if only for the views, down to Houston Brothers. I had a slight detour on 300G looking for a shortcut, nothing doing, wasted an hour is all. There was a nice filterable flow just before the intersection with Barbershop Trail. I continued on Houston Bros and settled into a Grasshopper recommended campsite right at dusk. Would be a very nice spot with a fire... Broke camp at 6AM and continued on past an empty Aspen spring area, and 1 couple camped at Pinchot. I cruised up 95 and down 139A to it's northern terminus. There was a couple of inflatable paddle boaters camped half way down the Rock Crossing trail, but the spots at the end were empty. I settled into my favorite. Lots of kayaks and canoes out on the lake as you would expect. People ended up filling all of the usual camp sites in this area, and some found new ones. Pretty cold night actually. Broke camp at 7AM and backtracked towards Fred Haught. The 95 wash out is more difficult to negotiate as it continues to erode on both sides. The road has lots of weeds growing in it from inactivity. Smooth sailing all the way back to the rim with plenty of people loaded up heading in for a few nights. Numerous people climbing Colonel Devin as I descended. The 3 crossings of East Verde were ridiculous, probably a thousand cars between the three crossings parked along the road because the lots are taped off, people everywhere, what a zoo. North bound 87 had a brush fire caused traffic jam for 5+ miles north of Mt. Ord. Southbound 87 had a truck and camper roll over traffic jam south of Mt. Ord. Next weekend, Monday afternoon, could be epic!
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May 10 2020
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Cabin Loop -Bear Canyon, AZ 
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Hiking14.92 Miles 2,346 AEG
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1st trip
We started from Washington Park hiking up to the Rim. Then we hopped on FR 300 but soon found that parts of the General Crook Trail had been cleared which made for a pleasant hike over to Bear Canyon. We hiked along the rim for a bit before dropping into Bear Canyon. Plenty of water in Bear with the usual open meadows and occasional pools.

Down canyon we eventually exited Bear and hopped Fred Haught Ridge and into Fred Haught Canyon. No water at first in Fred Haught but not too long before we started to see some flow and eventually some decent pools where we took a lunch break. After lunch we continued down Fred Haught Canyon just before reaching the Cabin Loop trail we came upon a fire ring that was still smoking. Even crazier is that there was plenty of water 50 feet away in the creek not to mention there is also a fire ban. John and I grabbed the empty containers that we had with us to drown the fire. The coals were so hot it took several trips to completely drown it. Too bad some people just don't give a crap :(

After that we made good time on the next 5 miles of good trail on the Cabin Loop. One last break before the rim and then back down to Washington Park. There was 50% chance of thunderstorms but we had mostly sunny skies all day :)

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Aug 11 2019
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Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
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Hiking20.36 Miles 2,118 AEG
Hiking20.36 Miles   29 Hrs   26 Mns   2.33 mph
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Thunderstorms in the White Mountains foiled our plan to overnight the Baldy loop, so we hit up Cabin Loop instead. U Bar’s closure last week due to the Hart fire clean-up meant our original route of Barbershop, Houston, and U Bar was a no-go for risk of a fine, so we decided to do the West loop instead. We arrived Friday evening and camped at General Springs TH, then headed out up the Fred Haught around 7 am the following morning. The moisture the rim has been getting was very evident, and there were mushrooms galore. I also helped myself to some ripe raspberries while looking for any bear sign in the area, but there was none to be found.

The hike was leisurely all morning, with plenty of stops for pictures. We knew of the washout “closure” at FR 95 before Pinchot, but I was confident we could easily bypass based on photos and previous reports. Indeed, the washout was quite the sight, but easily walked around via a detour trail down the south side into the canyon that has been trodden out over the last several months.

The original plan was to camp at or just south of Aspen Springs, but a late-morning storm was building and I had forgotten my pack liner. So out of concern for a soaked quilt and puffy, we set up an early camp at Pinchot and found an oak tree 2-300 ft from camp suitable for a proper bear hang. The rest of the day was spent reading and waiting for the downpour that was so promised by the clouds, but never delivered. Instead, a few sprinkles were all to be had.

There were not too many other backpackers along the route, but quite a few MTB and day hikers coming in at the trailhead. We met a group of other backpackers passing through back to Barbershop via U Bar. Unsurprisingly, given how inconspicuous the closure order was posted on the Coconino FS page (with nothing on Inciweb), they were not aware of the closure. They decided to give it a shot anyway, and must not have run into any FS workers along the trail, as they did not come back through Pinchot. I guess we should have given U Bar a shot after all.

Unwisely, we did the loop clockwise, so the next day was met with a longer 12 mile hike back to the truck, with 5 or so of the final miles being the least scenic portion of the hike, which is not the ideal way to close a trip. Once we got to the rim stretch, we tried to follow the Gen. Crook through the burn scar, but the trail was nowhere visible on the ground and the blazes were too far between. We soon bailed onto the Rim Road, which is not my idea of hiking, but it was better than dealing with route finding in a rocky burn scar. We eventually hopped back on a better-restored portion of the Crook, and took it all the way back to the TH at General Springs. We loaded up, headed out, and grabbed a burger and a beer in Pine before driving the rest of the way back to Phoenix.
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Jul 20 2019
oceanwithin
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 AZ
Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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oceanwithin
Backpack20.00 Miles 950 AEG
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A thoroughly enjoyable backpack through the pines with some good friends. So happy to have finally made it out to this area. Our route was General Springs > Fred Haught > Houston Brothers > General Crook.

On Saturday while hiking towards Pinchot TH, we started noticing smoke and then actual fire up ahead. We arrived to find the trailhead partially ablaze with no one else around. We had seen signs stating "Wildfire Ahead: Do Not Report" early on during the drive in, but it was still surprising (and unsettling) to be that up close and personal with an actively-burning wildfire. Especially when the wind picked up and the embers started flying. It was mostly old stumps burning down but still... :scared:

After checking out Pinchot & Aspen springs (both of which I loved - especially the desert columbines growing around Aspen), we stopped to make camp near McFarland spring. That night while falling asleep I was jolted awake by the very loud barking of an alarmed elk - a noise I've never heard before. It took a few moments to shake off the sleep and realize it wasn't the large angry demon-possessed dog my half-asleep brain immediately concluded was standing outside my tent. :lol:

The washout on Fred Haught was passable with a steep but quick bypass down and around the giant gaping void that was once a road.

Had a great hike out Sunday through the ferns and back around to General Springs. I loved this area and would like to check out the east loop sometime. Good times in a beautiful place with great people as always.

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Jun 29 2019
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Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
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Decided to hit the Cabin Loop when it isn't raining for a change. Marched up the Col. Devin at 6:30am and hit the rim road down to Houston Bros. Quick stop at the B-shop turn off, then down to a favorite water spot for a refill. Some folks were camped at Aspen spring but Pinchot was empty and quiet. Continued on down the road to the turnoff for the lake and hiked into an empty spot. There were some folks camped a bit further down, but I like the first little spot. Hung the hammock and chilled, fished a little, caught 1 rainbow and lost two others on downed trees. I spoke to others that were catching "stockers" too. Quiet night, but the sun comes up early these days. The washout on FR95 is a pain. Fred Haught was quiet on the return as well.
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Jun 29 2019
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 Phoenix, AZ
Blue Ridge - AZT #27Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Hiking6.59 Miles 669 AEG
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a big weekend for us as we are connecting a whole lot of miles from Passage 20 to part of Passage 35. We got to stay at the North Place which is always a great place to spend part of our glamping for the weekend. We are looking forward to seeing Tracy's bear pictures framed the next time we come up...
We didn't have to get started early either which is nice. One of the highlights is always the PANCAKES!

It's now been a couple weeks since this hike and I just got back from 10 days in Montana and a whirlwind at my house so my memory is not the best. I think I'm just going to tell my story via pictures and videos. I do know I was very happy to finally get to hike the Fred Haught Trail that so many people have raved about in the past. It lived up to its reputation. The trail appears to be in great shape too.

We did do tree removal. Well actually Shawn did the bulk of it.

Highlights: the beautiful forested terrain, ferns, and the water of course
Lowlights: the still burning campfire [ youtube video ] and the temp got a bit warm toward the end of the hike.

Videos will usually include ferns, and more ferns, tree removal, water:
Part 1 [ youtube video ]
Part 2 [ youtube video ] (including the campfire put out)
Part 3 [ youtube video ]
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Jun 29 2019
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 Chandler, AZ
Blue Ridge - AZT #27Payson, AZ
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 Prescott Valley
Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar May 24 2019
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Hiking18.70 Miles 950 AEG
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Trail Closure Notification: There have been many good trip logs posted, so this is just a recent update on current conditions as of 5/24/2019. As the photo set shows, there has been a trail closure on the Fred Haught trail west of the Pinchot Cabin. I amended my original plans (Fred Haught, U-Bar, Barbershop, Rim Road) to go up the middle (Houston Bros, U-Bar, Barbershop) and bypassed the closure. I met a group on the trail that said that the forest road west of Pinchot cabin had been washed out, and that there was a 50' deep gully to cross. They said that they had done the crossing themselves, but I have not. See the photo set for the sign posted at the General Springs trail head. There was another similar sign at the Barbershop/Houston Brothers crossing, but as I said I had no problems at all on that loop.
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Sep 23 2018
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 Mesa, AZ
Blue Ridge - AZT #27Payson, AZ
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Hiking avatar Sep 23 2018
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Hiking16.40 Miles 1,794 AEG
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In July 2017 Wally, Andy and I hiked the Fred Haught Trail up to the Pinchot Cabin and back. On the way back we got caught in a lightning storm and skipped taking the short side trip to the illustrious Fred Haught Cabin. Last November, Wally and I hiked an 8 mile section of the AZT #27 from the north, starting at SR87. That left a little gap of the AZT adjacent to the Fred Haught Trail that I didn't hike. So for this trip, we started again at General Springs and headed north to where we stopped last November.

Being that it's officially fall in AZ, the temperature in the morning was a little brisk. No color in the trees, although most of trees we saw were pines. The ferns have died, so they're brown. There was some other plant on the ground that was red, not sure what that was. I never noticed that in the summer, so I'm thinking they turn color also?

I really enjoy this area of AZ. Not alot of elevation gain walking through the pines, but we kind of made up for it with the length of the hike. The weather was perfect, including really clear air that enabled you to see very far. We noticed that part more on the ride home. I'm not gung ho on getting all the AZT hiked, but I would like to explore more of the next section up to Happy Jack and further up to Flag.

Route Scout glitched out on me again at the 3 mile mark and would't record until I checked the screen. After that it was ok, but i have a straight line in my track along one section.

Saw 3 whitetail bucks in the morning along FR300, and also 2 elk cows. The glare in the morning light made driving FR300 a challenge in spots. In the afternoon, we think we spotted where the ATV accident occurred last weekend along FR300. Looks like some freshly burnt brush there as well as a sharp bend in the road by a cliff.
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Sep 20 2018
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 Phoenix, AZ
Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
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Drove up to Pinchot Cabin on a Thursday. We stayed there Thursday and Friday nights. On Friday we took a day hike over to Fred Haught Spring and Cabin. There's a nice camping spot there I want to try one day. On Saturday we took off clockwise on U-Bar to a camping spot near Coyote Spring, just off Barbershop Trail to the west of U-Bar. We stayed there Saturday night. Finished the loop off on Sunday via Barbershop and Houston Brothers. Really fun relaxing weekend. Love this place.
Sep 12 2018
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Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
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Had a great hike around cabin Loop. Saw lots of wildlife and enjoyed a great campfire and stars.
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Jul 28 2018
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Started from Wash Park TH at 7:00, first car in the lot. The road in still shows signs of last year's colossal flood in August that destroyed it. Made the climb and road march to Houston Bros, almost zero traffic. Hung a right on Barbershop then stopped at B-shop spring for a refill. Very light flow from under the rock but clear. Saw 3 guys looping the opposite direction. Barbershop creek crossing was dry, but there is a mucky pool nearby. Dane was dry at trail crossing. Ran into Kyle "Tough Boots" and Michelle along this section. About 20 minutes later the skies opened up, I took some shelter down in a dry creek bed and waited an hour. Lots of rain and a blanket of hail with plenty of lightning. Then, onto Dane spring, totally vacant, and set up camp. Quiet night with off and on light rain. Had a solid fire though for the first time in 3 months. Next crossing of Dane was dry and campsite empty. Barbershop crossing was flowing and some folks camped there. Made good time to Pinchot and found plenty of good water to filter. Fred Haught springs, old cabin area was dry. Fred Haught has plenty of water, sometimes murky and still, sometimes almost clear and flowing. No one camped anywhere.
Clouds were moving in and I heard a distant rumble of thunder as I passed Gen Springs cabin so I sped up my pace down the Col Devin. Lightning got a little too close at one point, I probably should have hid for a bit. Got back to the car just as the rain came. I had another flat tire. I don't know what it is about this place, 2 flat tires and a washed out road in as many trips.
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Jul 14 2018
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East Cabin Loop, AZ 
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Hiking17.80 Miles 2,615 AEG
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With the monsoon in an active pattern, I wanted to do this one early in the day and avoid any potential lightning so we drove up Friday night for a pleasant camp with jonnybackpack and the shed hunter. It rained for a few hours overnight and the morning was overcast and cool. We were on trail at 7. By 8 it started drizzling and lasted an hour or so, adding to the already vibrant greens from the recent rain.

Over the course of the day we spotted 16 or 18 elk in about 5 different encounters, plus two encounters with large and loud mammals that went unseen. I saw a big redtail near Aspen Spring too.

It was surprising how few people were up on the rim. All the big campsites were empty, and we didn't encounter a single hiker on the entire loop. A rarity for sure in summer here. Only twice did we hear the slight drone of a quad driving on an adjacent road, but that's also pretty impressive given the proximity this trail is to so many motor vehicle routes.

The sun came out around 11, but only lasted an hour before clouds began to build. We made it back to the truck before any rain hit, though the rim views revealed a few showers in the area.

While the cabin loop doesn't offer the euphoria of trudging the road that climbs Mt. Ord, it allows you to cover a bunch of miles over diverse landscape in a fairly short amount of time. Somehow this was my first hike on the rim since snow season, and it was nice to be back!
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Just a few spots with the big yellow daisy looking flowers.

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Dry at trail crossing. Pools visible downstream 100 yards or so.

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