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Sep 08 2020
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 Tucson, AZ
Bridle Trail - Catalina State ParkTucson, AZ
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Bittersweet run, one of our regulars announced his "Swan Song" from running and told us that health issues will keep him off the trails more than likely for at least a year (if not forever). Was always an inspiration, 75 years old and could still pop off 9 & 10 minutes miles on trails. Like many of us, a lifelong lover of the mountains and over the years into hiking, skiing, trail running and occasionally peak bagging while living in Colorado and retiring to Arizona.

As he put it - "I turned 76 and the wheels fell off".

This just after I learned our Mt. Whitney trip was cancelled due to the fires in California. A hard one-two punch this week.
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Aug 18 2020
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Bridle Trail - Catalina State ParkTucson, AZ
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Meh....one of those days I should have stayed in bed. Not often I bail out on a run 10 minutes in and return to the car.
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Aug 11 2020
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Bridle Trail - Catalina State ParkTucson, AZ
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Uneventful Tuesday with the old guys for our weekly run. Does appear many of the burnt mesquite trees are bouncing back pretty fast. Lots of new growth.
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Aug 05 2020
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 Tucson, AZ
Romero Canyon Trail #8Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Today's excursion was with a few guys from SARA and interesting to see a different perspective on the park vs what trail runners look at. The bulk of the rescues that SARA assist with in CSP tend to be up Romero Canyon and Sutherland. So my hiking partners wanted to go up Romero Canyon to the park boundary to look around to get the lay of the land for future rescues. Meandered up to park boundary and the FS has Romero Canyon roped off and signs warning you off. I'm thinking that Romero Canyon got hit pretty hard based on what we could see at the canyon entrance.

Took a few of the social trails over towards Sutherland and took in more of the fire damage. Once over there, we hit what SARA has named "Rosemary's Trail" that skirts that edge of the park and takes you over to the equestrian center.

Saw my first rattlesnake in the wild this morning and came within a few inches of stepping on it. In addition the fire exposed some pot shards in one of our off trail excursions. My take on the fire is that we won't the full extent of the fire damage until the canyon trails open up. From a distance, they look like they got hammered pretty well.
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Aug 04 2020
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Bridle Trail - Catalina State ParkTucson, AZ
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Catalina State Park opened up two days ago and our Tuesday morning old guy running group resumed from our usual spot. Greeted with 70 degree temps to start, much better than the 82 degrees at my house.

Started off along the Bridle Trail for our first loop and along the north side of the main paved road in the park, it looks fairly pristine. The firefighters used the big wash as a fire break and huge swaths of the park along the south side of the paved road are toast. The Canyon Loop trail is about 50/50 burned and the Birding Loop Trail got hit pretty hard. At first glance it appears the fire burned moderately along the tops of hills and ridges, but intensified inside of any canyon or drainage area.

I feared the worst, but it wasn't as bad as I thought. Though I'm a bit worried about what Romero Canyon and Sutherland will look like. A lot of the mesquites that got burnt were already beginning to leaf out from the little bit of rain we've had the past couple of weeks.
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Jun 06 2020
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Sutherland Trail #6Tucson, AZ
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Meh.....Got up early and pulled out of my driveway about 4:30 AM to hit the trail at daybreak and avoid the crowds. Noticed the orange glow coming off of Bighorn and felt ill, then turned onto the the major street that leads to my subdivision and saw the same glow coming from the Tortolita's.

Hit the trails at CSP and just lost all enthusiasm to run. Made it about 30 minutes and just headed back to the car.
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May 19 2020
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Bridle Trail - Catalina State ParkTucson, AZ
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Added a couple of extra loops here and there to slap on another mile or so to our usual run. CSP was back to being cooler than the surrounding neighborhoods and it was a glorious 55 degrees when we started our run.

Seems everyone is heading back to work, the trails were a lot less busy today.
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May 12 2020
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 Tucson, AZ
Bridle Trail - Catalina State ParkTucson, AZ
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Meh....not feeling it today.

Odd morning, generally CSP is 15-20 degrees cooler than the surrounding neighborhoods first thing in the morning. But today it was the same temperature as my house. Usually only happens when it's a cloudy morning, but with blue skies today I don't know the reason why. Warmed up fast and it was in the 80's by the time I left.
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May 09 2020
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 Gilbert, AZ
Mount Lemmon Summit, AZ 
Mount Lemmon Summit, AZ
 
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Hiking28.93 Miles 7,679 AEG
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First time to the sky islands. Loved it.

Romero Canyon #8
As noted in the description, this trail is extremely well-defined through the state park, shrinks down to a singletrack on the way up to the pools, and gets harder to follow above. It was never bad, just a few deadfall and overgrowth to duck around for the last mile or two. Pools were pretty, views were amazing, and even the thicker vegetation at the top of the canyon was enjoyable. More than the advertised 6 miles.

Mount Lemmon #5
This was the point that my legs began to realize what the day's plan was, and they weren't happy about it. Trail was heckin' steep, especially the exposed part, and it wasn't until I entered the pines that this was enjoyable. The rock cliffs ahead and Cathedral Rock behind make up for the pain.

Wilderness of Rock #44
This little valley is a gem. First half jaw-dropping rock & pine views, second half the pines took over. I stopped three times, twice to pull water, and enjoyed the cool temps (clouds and rain during this section) and scenery. I wanna go back.

Aspen #93
First half was a mix of burn and pine, second half was all burn. Lots of re-routing, lots and lots of new switchbacks compared to the posted track. Wasn't as steep as I feared, likely thanks to the thousand switchbacks. I didn't mind, my legs were gassed by this point.

Mount Lemmon Summit
Views were nice, as was Quartzite Spring. Crowds not so much. Found a quiet spot to eat second lunch and quickly moved on.

Sutherland #6
Yeah, missed the part about this trail not being maintained. I was expecting a gentle auto-pilot descent and... that's not what you get. First mile is easy. Next miles is okay, not great. Third mile is just painful and I hates it. Last few miles had some real gems and is enjoyable. Then it's onto miles of old, rocky two-track followed by state park singletrack, and auto-pilot kicks in. I think descending is the way to go (get to enjoy the views more, when you aren't head-scratching, looking for the least-wrong way down), though my knees weren't thrilled with that grade.

Covid Crowd Report
Three groups on Romero, all before Old Camp. At least a dozen in Wilderness of Rocks, two camping, some of the groups quite large (5-6 peeps). Mount Lemmon summit was one big crowd, overflowing parking lots, etc. Probably another dozen on Mount Lemmon/Sutherland, that loop (Lemmon :next: WoR :next: Aspen || Lookout) must be a popular one. Zero people on Sutherland after the junction, at least until the state park.

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Trail was soaked, churned to mud by traffic. You'd have to go below trail to pull anything usable. Skip this and continue to Quartzite.

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Nice wide flow at crossing, counted at least... eight? other places along this trail to pull water.

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Pipe was gushing. Water was cold and amazing.

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May 05 2020
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 Tucson, AZ
Bridle Trail - Catalina State ParkTucson, AZ
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Tuesdays out with the old guys group at CSP. The rangers are getting quite vigilant about checking for tags, so no more sneaking in without a state park pass these days. (Don't worry, I have a yearly pass).

Added a short dogleg to put us over the 6 mile mark, doing 5.9 miles every week was a bit irritating.

Looks like people must be heading back to work this week, the crowds were dramatically thinner than they were 2-3 weeks ago.
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Apr 28 2020
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 Tucson, AZ
Bridle Trail - Catalina State ParkTucson, AZ
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Getting toasty fast, even CSP was heating up quickly this morning. Surprised to see so many people out, typically Tucson is a crowd that sleeps in and starts hiking or running at 7-8AM.
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Apr 21 2020
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Tuesday Morning Old Man Running Group - The rangers are moving the blockades around the park a bit. Opening some areas that were closed last week and closing off our normal parking area today. Lot's of traffic in the park this morning.

Gentle run up and down the hills while we solved all the problems of the world.
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Apr 14 2020
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Back to our old stomping grounds, the water is flowing low enough to rock hop without getting your feet wet. Did about 5-6 water crossings altogether.

We generally do a clover pattern of loops so that people that need to bail early have opportunity to get back to the car at multiple points. Also did a loop of the Nature Trail and the Birding Loop.
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Mar 10 2020
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Back with the Tuesday morning old man group. Perfect overcast conditions for a pleasant spin around the park. Streams are flowing, so had 4-5 decent water crossings. Still just impresses me that one of the regulars is 76 years old and can still bang out 9-10 minute miles casually up and down the hills.
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Jan 28 2020
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Trail Link Loop, AZ 
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Shell and I hiked my Trail Link Loop clockwise direction. totally perfect day :y:
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 Oro Valley, AZ
Sutherland Trail #6Tucson, AZ
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After work hike from Catalina State Park to the Cargodera Spring area. Cargodera, Romero, and Sutherland creeks were flowing well. Lots of poppies sprouting along the trail.
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Oct 26 2019
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 Phoenix, AZ
Sutherland - Romero LoopTucson, AZ
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Run/Jog22.27 Miles 6,800 AEG
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This is a loop that has been on my list for awhile... Up Romero Canyon Trail to Romero Pass, then up to the junction with Sutherland/Samaniego Ridges, and finally back down via Sutherland Trail. Started out in the morning, which temperatures still below 40 degrees at CSP. Warmed up nicely once we started jogging, and the shade turned out to be quite nice on the way up.

I had only been up Romero Canyon Trail once prior to this; it was last December right after one of the winter storms, and the trail was covered in snow from about 4 miles in, with about 18" at the pass (might be a fun one from the backlog to write up a report on). Suffice it to say, it was a little easier going in the upper part of the canyon this time.

The pools are stagnant right now, although there is a trickle near the upper end.

Didn't feel so good heading up Lemmon Trail; might be a combination of the altitude up there and some lingering issues from a bout of allergies earlier in the week. So I was excited to reach the junction with Samaniego Trail.

There is a nice thicket of aspen trees on the way down the ridge, and it was in full bright yellow glory. I'd say Mount Lemmon foliage is peaking now.

At the Sutherland/Samaniego junction, I suggested we might take a side trip down to Shovel Spring for water, but we decided against it, thinking it was only like 9 miles back to CSP. This turned out to be a mistake.

Sutherland Trail was new for me, and I've heard some people have turned back because they can't find the trail. It is definitely hard to find in places, but having a map on the GPS watch helped (at the very least, it informed us that we should not be heading down the north side of the ridge yet). Once the trail starts descending in earnest, it's pretty easy to follow, though still overgrown in places.

By the time we hit the Jeep road, I knew water was becoming an issue, with the sun warming us up a little and about five miles to go. Looks like this would be my almost-monthly running-out-of-water-on-the-trail! A half mile or so before reaching the singletrack, and with just a few drops of water left in my pack, some guys with side-by-sides saved the day by giving us some nice cold water that got me within a mile of the parking lot. Yay! (I don't usually like having to share the trail with vehicles, but I will admit, it has its positives.)

This adventure was certainly more than a struggle than expected, and I would definitely recommend doing this loop in the other direction. Coming down that rocky Jeep road sucks, and you lose a lot more time trying to route find on the way down the ridge.
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Sep 03 2019
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Still feeling the effect of the Grand Canyon last week and a very humid morning. Lot of very slow miles today.
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Aug 13 2019
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Cool and crisp 67 at the trailhead today!
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Aug 06 2019
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Swampy with a handful of drizzle.
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