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Feb 24 2019
KBKB
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57 male
 Joined Apr 22 2012
 Fountain Hills,
Ballantine to Boulder FlatPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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KBKB
Hiking7.67 Miles 1,821 AEG
Hiking7.67 Miles   4 Hrs   59 Mns   2.35 mph
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On Sunday, Michael, Aldo, Marilyn, Ben, Marilyn, and I hiked the Pine Creek Loop and a portion of the Ballantine Trail. I made it out somewhat beyond Boulder Flat before turning back.

Early on, the trails were mostly clear of the snow that accumulated on Thursday and Friday of the previous week. Higher up, however, snow covered the trail in places. Despite the wetness, the trail was firm and not especially muddy. The snow was wet and heavy. We saw broken tree branches and brittlebush plants that had been somewhat flattened by the snow.

When we arrived, there were around dozen cars in the lot, the most I've ever seen there. On the trail itself, I saw more hikers in that one day than I've seen in at least half a dozen trips to the same area.
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DixieFlyer
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 Fountain Hills,
Ballantine Cabin & CorralPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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DixieFlyer
Hiking12.20 Miles 2,970 AEG
Hiking12.20 Miles   6 Hrs   43 Mns   2.50 mph
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I was looking for a hike to do today, and I convinced Tracie, my intrepid hiking partner, to go out to the Ballantine TH and do the corral-cabin loop hike -- we hadn't done this one in about 15 months. We added a little extra on this hike -- once we got to Boulder Flats, we went off-trail for a bit and climbed up to "The Boulders".

We did both loops CCW -- 1) the loop on the Pine Creek Trail and 2) the loop from Boulder Flats to the corral and the cabin.

There was quite a bit of water flow in both Pine Creek and Camp Creek. Once we got past Boulder Flats there was some snow on the ground, and by the time we got to the corral the ground was pretty much covered with snow. The off-trail hike from the corral to the cabin wasn't bad, although the snow made it hard to follow the use trail that is there. Someone had been hiking out there before me, and in a few places I followed their footprints in the snow.

I enjoyed the views from "The Boulders", and was glad that we took the time to go there. There was a bit of class 3 rock scrambling to get up the top of The Boulders, but it was not bad at all.

There was lots of snow atop Mt. Ord and Mazzy Peak, but hardly any on Four Peaks.
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Jan 13 2019
John9L
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Ballantine to Boulder FlatPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking10.38 Miles 2,303 AEG
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Met up with Kyle for a nice hike on the Ballantine Trail. We left Mesa around 7am and made the drive up. It rained overnight and there was a lot of fog out. We drove up and were hiking around 7:45am. We headed in and made the steady climb up. It was an easy going hike and it was cool and pleasant out. We arrived at the junction with the cabin and decided to keep going in Boulder Flat. This was a nice option that neither of us have taken before. We continued on and the trail made a short climb and then it was smooth going.

We arrived at an old corral around the five mile mark and could hear water flowing. We headed over to a Camp Creek to find a solid flow. We took a break here and took some pics. After a few we loaded up and made the return. It was a lot easier as most of the return hike was downhill. Along the way we saw two different groups heading in. We arrived back to the car to find a busy trailhead. We likely avoided most of the people as we returned on the Pine Creek Loop. We were done hiking around 12:30pm and I was home around 1pm. Nice day on the trails.
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Jan 13 2019
Tough_Boots
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 Phoenix, AZ
Ballantine to Boulder FlatPhoenix, AZ
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Tough_Boots
Hiking9.86 Miles 2,201 AEG
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Nice quick hike.
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Oct 23 2018
CannondaleKid
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 Mesa, AZ
Ballantine Out & Back, AZ 
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CannondaleKid
Hiking7.60 Miles 1,877 AEG
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On the drive approaching the Usery Pass Rd intersection on Bush Highway we noticed a big dark object on the side of the road and at the same moment both of us blurted out dead horse!

While the horse (not quite full-grown?) was laying on the shoulder and a huge mass of blood spray in the center of the road it appeared to have been moved off the road after the fact. Based on the tire marks the vehicle was probably traveling well over the 45 mph speed limit at the time... right where the rumble strips are to warn of the horse crossing area. As wide as the open area is on either side of the road I'd believe it guess it happened at night.
Sad... :x
(The horse had been removed by time we returned after the hike.)

The hike itself was the usual steady climb with an extra helping of humidity, so another 'sweat-shower' workout for me. Off-and-on dark clouds all-around and low rumblings from time-to-time but nothing provided more than a threat. Thankfully the sun only peeked through a few times so the temps stayed in the 70's and with a brisk wind the return trip was a literal breeze.
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Apr 29 2018
KBKB
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 Fountain Hills,
Ballantine to Boulder FlatPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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KBKB
Hiking7.68 Miles 1,742 AEG
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Starting mid-afternoon on Sunday, I hiked the Pine Creek Loop CCW and continued on the Ballantine Trail somewhat beyond Boulder Flat. I finished the Pine Creek Loop on the way back.

I had last hiked this trail in Sept 2017. At that time, some recent diversions had been constructed on the initial (CCW) part of the Pine Creek Loop, but some of these diversions were hard to make out and, at least one point, the new trail seemed to fade out after a while. I'm happy to say that this situation has been very much improved. I found that section to be much easier to follow than last year.

The Ballantine Trail seemed to have been cleaned up too. It seemed not quite as rocky with less encroaching vegetation. I made better time on it than normal.

I had the trail to myself during that afternoon.
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Apr 13 2018
mazatzal
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Ballantine to Boulder FlatPhoenix, AZ
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mazatzal
Hiking7.00 Miles 1,850 AEG
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Took advantage of the cooler temps today (58 at start and 68 at end) and very strong winds on the way down. Just went up to Boulder Flat and back, did the loop at the end.

There has been some trail work: the white rock ledge that spanned all the way across the trail has been broken up on the right hand side to make another easy way around it. Also quite a bit of brushing along the trail.

Only saw one hiker and a few hawks soaring in the strong winds!
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Apr 06 2018
jacobemerick
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 Gilbert, AZ
Pine Mountain via Ballantine, AZ 
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Hiking25.77 Miles 5,861 AEG
Hiking25.77 Miles   13 Hrs   32 Mns   2.30 mph
5,861 ft AEG   2 Hrs   20 Mns Break
 
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Ballantine to Boulder Flat
Did most of this by headlamp. Trail is in great shape and seems easier than it did back in 2016. Either the hills are settling or I ate my Wheaties this morning.

Boulder Flat to Rock Tank
Trail is in relatively great shape! Thanks @mt98dew for your maintenance last year. Only wandered off trail once (and it was only through waist-high manzanita, so meh), and there was one or two spots that required crawling, otherwise kept up a solid pace all the way to Rock Tank. Speaking of, that spot is gorgeous. Got some Horse Camp Seep vibes, only these tanks are somewhat protected and the water was delightfully cool. Finished water in pack (3L) and pulled to full capacity (4.5L).

Rock Tank to Pine Mountain
Trail got a bit thicker for awhile, then it entered the pines and holy wah awesome. While I was in the area I zipped up the Connector trail, which is a bit of an annoying thing, got nice views from the road... er, AZT. Ballantine got a bit hard to follow deeper in the pines, with some overgrowth and needles hiding the tread, didn't mind too much. Missed the main cut off from the creek and hacked my way back to cairns and eventually the saddle.

There were hints of path from the saddle up to the summit, plus hints of rock walls / ruins, which kept the off-trail section interesting. Vegetation was definitely not an issue. Made it to the summit unscathed, found two metal disks, and then retreated. Again, easy summit to do, with several open sections and paths. If it gets too hard just backtrack and look around.

Descent to Cline Trailhead
From the saddle down to Cline was in ridiculously good shape. Big cairns, recent maintenance, and great views. Going up this in the afternoon would be a scorcher. Things started to get hot near the bottom because it's apparently summer already or something.

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It's a road.

Connector Trail to Boulder Flat
At this point I was hot, running low on water, and a joy to be around. Bike trails are not the easiest to hike, either, with the narrow ruts, steep sections, loose dirt, and steep sections. I slipped more than a few times and my knees were hating me. At least the views were good?

Boulder Flat to Ballantine Trailhead
After polishing off the last of my water at the Flat I felt a little better. Plus, it was all downhill and the temps were already sinking. Pine Creek (S) got some recent maintenance to keep the trail out of some of the drainages and it looks fantastic.
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Dribbling from tank to tank, somewhat stagnant. Nice and cool.
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Dec 21 2017
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 The Basin
Ballantine Cabin & CorralPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking10.38 Miles 2,155 AEG
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2nd time being out in this really cool boulder-y area. First time was 10 years ago. Really easy hike to get to and only takes an hour to get there. I like it. Right at sunrise, I chose to start up the southwest side and got warmed up quickly on a very cold morning. There was a group of 3 right at the junction giving their best "WHOO HOO!", waiting for the echos down the canyon. I said Hi in their native language, and continued up the trail. It is a steady incline all the way up through some cool rock formations and then the path goes into a very boulder-y valley. The slight, steady incline eventually levels out and there is a fork. I headed north (left) up 300ft and over a ridgeline towards the cabin. The trail was very worn out from dirtbike tracks, which was odd because I saw none prior to that. Spotted the cabin just after the saddle. It was incredibly windy and the sweating from the uphill hike was making me freeze my :pk: off. I made it down to the cabin and started a small campfire there to warm up. I dragged one of the metal cots near the fire and layed down and turned once in a while, kind of rotissering myself. After about 20 minutes, the sun finally came up over the hill and started warming things up more. Nothing of use or interest in the cabin. I grilled up some of my homemade smoked meats and enjoyed a nice lunch. Really peaceful and quiet at this spot (except for the airplanes), thinking about people living this life way back in the day (..except for the airplanes). I was having such a good time just hanging out, I didnt have enough time to complete the lasso hike. I put out the fire and just came back out the same way, except, I did go down Pine Creek to make the short loop at the end. Noticed all of the half burnt saguaro I didnt see when it was darker earlier hiking in. Nice short hike but Man! has it been cold out lately. I guess it is was the longest night of the year. I liked this hike and will probably be back soon.

Also, I am really interested in hiking the ridgeline/mountain directly to the north northeast of the cabin. It looks like it would be pretty accessible and have similarly manageable ridgeline to the peak.
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Dec 01 2017
OdinWiski
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 Chandler, AZ
Ballantine Cabin & CorralPhoenix, AZ
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OdinWiski
Hiking12.00 Miles 2,266 AEG
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I haven't been able to get out as much as I would like in the last months. Had Friday off and Widowmaker, aka Rowdy's dad, suggested this one. Turned out to be a very good hike. I bet if we'd had some rain, the desert would've been even prettier. I really enjoyed seeing the depths of view and all the layers. The entire route was very easy to follow except the very overgrown portion that climbed out of the valley to get to the corral. I appreciated having the GPS track and wearing long pants :) Larry got cut up pretty bad. Thanks for the hike suggestion and keeping trucking on the entire hike Larry despite your ankle. Rowdy is a cute boy and he always has that huge smile on his face :lol: I enjoyed this hike with you guys and so did Wiski. Not sure why my Garmin logged 12 miles, but that's what it did.
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Nov 11 2017
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 Mesa,AZ
Ballantine Cabin & CorralPhoenix, AZ
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hikerdw
Hiking11.00 Miles 2,600 AEG
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This was our third trip to the cabin, once as an out an back from the Ballantine TH, once from the Pipeline Trail, and this somewhat of a loop hike. Started early so we enjoyed some cooler temps in the AM. The connector trail was a little faint at the start but once we located the tread it was fairly easy to follow, although somewhat overgrown but you will never hear me complain about that. Enjoyed lunch once we passed the corral and got back on the Ballantine Trail. Saw only a couple other hikers all morning. Great day!

To all the HAZ Veterans out there, a huge Thank-you!!
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Sep 03 2017
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 Fountain Hills,
Pine Creek Loop #280Phoenix, AZ
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KBKB
Hiking6.07 Miles 1,375 AEG
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My wife joined me for an early morning hike of the Pine Creek Loop and part of the Ballantine Trail.

We started off by going right (CCW) on the Pine Creek Loop. As mentioned in past triplogs, trail work had been done to create better paths around sections of trail with significant erosion. For the most part, these are good, but there's still one diversion which confuses me. The new section of trail peters out into desert. We backtracked and found what looked like a switchback which led back to the well worn trail. I'm guessing that others have found this confusing too and inadvertently created the trail which we followed that leads nowhere. (So... we contributed to the problem by following it.)

We noticed, too, some significant erosion on the Pine Creek Loop just after the intersection with the Ballantine Trail. I don't recall if this is new or not, but I don't remember it being much of a problem on past hikes in this area.

At perhaps 2.75 miles in (total), there's (still) a fallen saguaro across the Ballantine Trail. I passed it by stepping up onto a boulder on the south side of the trail and then stepping over the saguaro to another boulder on the other side of the fallen saguaro.

I saw two rattlesnakes on the Ballantine Trail as I was hiking back. It's possible that they were also there on the way out, but that I just didn't notice them. The first one struck and aggressive posture and rattled at me. The second one didn't notice me at all - it remained curled up the entire time.

The morning temperatures are becoming cooler. It was in the mid-seventies when we started at 6:20 and was in the high eighties when we got back.
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KBKB
Hiking6.35 Miles 1,417 AEG
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On Sunday morning, I hiked the Pine Creek Trail to the Ballantine and then did an out-and-back on part of the Ballantine before finishing the Pine Creek Loop.

The trail is in good condition despite the recent monsoon rains. Some of the diversions to avoid the rutted trail on the south side of the Pine Creek Loop have vegetation growing in them now and a few of them were hard to follow - there was one point where I ended up bushwhacking a short ways to get back to the original, rutted trail because I got lost while following one of the diversions.

The Ballantine Trail is also blocked in another spot by yet another fallen saguaro. I didn't go far enough to see if the other one that I noticed on my previous trip had been cleared or not. This new saguaro-fall seems to be recent; the trail was damp near the saguaro with seepage from its fall.

I saw a Western Diamondback rattler on the way back. It was asleep in a rut in the trail. I spent a long while taking photos, chimping them, and then taking more when I noticed that I didn't really have a clear view of its head. I finally got one that was satisfied with, though when I got home, I saw that I missed the focus on the head. I guess I should have taken even more.

I saw several agave blossoms; I've included a two shots of one of them in my photos.

Actually - there were a lot more flowers than I expected to see.

It was a good hike with plenty of solitude. Temperatures were not-too-warm when I started, though it was warm, bordering on hot when I finished. I drank all of one 3L reservoir and had started the second just as I was finishing up.
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mazatzal
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Ballantine to Boulder FlatPhoenix, AZ
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mazatzal
Hiking8.00 Miles 1,550 AEG
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Took Ballantine to Boulder Flat then along connector for the view south.
Still loads of flowers blooming out here and good flows in Camp + Pine creeks.
Saw only 6 people on the trails.
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Mar 19 2017
KBKB
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KBKB
Hiking7.11 Miles 1,504 AEG
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Since the days are getting warmer, I thought it might be a good idea to try to acclimate myself again to 90+ degree heat. So... going out at mid-afternoon, I hiked the Pine Creek Loop and then out a little over two miles on the Ballantine, turning back probably within a quarter mile of Boulder Flat as I was worried about running out of daylight for the hike back.

I do this hike several times each year. It has good views. I like the terrain and it has enough elevation gain to give me a good workout.

Trail conditions have mostly improved since I last hiked it in Fall of 2016. The southern (steep) section of the Pine Creek Loop had become very rutted. Recent trail maintenance has partially filled in some of these ruts (with large rocks) and routed new sections of trail around these ruts.

I was happy to NOT find any evidence of recent motorcycle use on the Ballantine Trail. I saw tracks several times when I hiked the trail in 2015 and 2016. However, one of my favorite sections did seem to be more broken up than normal which may have been the result of motorcycle use in the past.

There used to be a large saguaro with a droopy arm that crossed the Ballantine Trail. This saguaro has now fallen, requiring that you climb over it. I posted a photo of it.

Both Pine Creek and Camp Creek had flowing water.
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Pine Creek Loop #280Phoenix, AZ
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Grasshopper
Hiking1.30 Miles 453 AEG
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An acquaintance who lives at my townhouse complex called me this early afternoon to inquire where the Spring'17 Wildflowers were located. She is not a hiker and just wanted to drive around to see some blooms. I immediately went to our HAZ Wildflowers Map- :next: hikearizona.com/wil ... .php and soon realized that just to send her driving up some local road which I did not know if there would actually be any flower displays might be a mistake :? A short hike seemed to be in-order but I knew better than to send a non-hiker out in the wilderness for the first time too..

I hardly ever anymore do impromptu hikes without a prior week minimum of pre-planning but today I was in the mood for some fresh air with a simple hike plus the idea of viewing some spring wildflowers within a close proximity drive seemed like a good idea.. and it was!

Our Highway 87 Ballantine TH was a good choice and on the drive to even the shoulders of the highway are really beginning to bust open with various varieties of wildflowers. It was a bright, sunny, high 80's day so we only did a short out and back section (first hiking south) on this 2.5 mile loop, but still a fun, enjoyable, and rewarding afternoon OUTSIDE! :)
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Mar 11 2017
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Ballantine Cabin & CorralPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking10.27 Miles 2,278 AEG
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Hadn't hiked this area for a few years. A lot more water than expected. We made at least 15 crossings of running water. Wildflowers are out putting on a nice show. We saw about 10 people out on the trails which is quite a few for here. Beautiful day. Started getting warm by the end of the hike, but never hot. Thanks John! :)
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Scorpion weed, blue dicks, poppies, fiddleneck, fairy duster, lupine, desert chicory...
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Jan 26 2017
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 Gilbert, AZ
Pine Creek Loop #280Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking2.50 Miles 498 AEG
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It was a rare event.. Me on a trail. I should probably try it more often. I really enjoyed this trail. I had it all to myself. I came here to see the seasonal flow on Pine Creek. The upper valley is so special. The sea of saguaros was like nothing I've ever witnessed. They’re clearly happy hear. Just add water. Very nice. Now we just need some flowers!

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Jan 21 2017
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 Phoenix, AZ
Ballantine Cabin & CorralPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking11.27 Miles 2,409 AEG
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Rain Saturday number 4 out of the last 5 :pout:

Snow in many areas and cold temps in others hampered options. I put together a loop West of the Beeline around Sycamore/Mesquite based on a couple Ken hikes. We arrived before sunrise and could hear the roar of the creek. Bruce refused to give up and checked it out in several areas. Luckily he came to his senses. With a hint of internet I pulled up Ballantine as plan b.

18 years ago I hiked this in gnat season. The memory was still fresh that I wanted to see the Saguaro lined Pine Creek flowing. We got it in full glory, it was roaring!

Yesterday I picked up a zippo catalytic hand warmer. A few school friends back in Oklahoma carried a larger version when we walked off campus for lunch. Imagine none of that is permitted these days. At any rate after a home test I was oddly excited to put it to use hiking in the cold.

The little furnace worked like a dream for 6-7 miles until I slipped on a rock in one of several creek crossings. Our 47 degree start was now into the 30's and it was game over for the happy attitude.

After miles of torture the final mile or two was warming up. We crossed paths with 3 or 4 little groups. Then ran into CHUMS starting the same hike. My photos aren't worth subjecting to the public. I imagine someone that got twice the sleep, ate breakfast, lunch and hiked with less stinky company got better light.

We saw lots of creeks flowing and in retrospect I enjoyed it overall.
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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
Very isolated yellows. Bushes and such most wouldn't notice.

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Bruce had us go a bit off trail and boy howdy it was roaring!

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roaring, looked semi dangerous to cross

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roaring from recent rain previous night
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Joe through out a couple this week to choose from. The first had us in potential snow and much colder temps. I would never have been able to put up with the whining on that one.

The Plan A that got the nod, received 1.2 inches of rain yesterday. What normally runs at 1.5 CFM, was running at 20 CFM yesterday afternoon, and flashed at 7,000 CFM at midnight at 10' in height. When we pulled in, you could hear the roar of Sycamore Creek.

This was a plan B.
I'd never hiked out of the Ballantine TH, so with the help of a freshly downloaded route into Route Scout, we were off.

Pine Creek was roaring, as were all the other normally dry named and non-named washes. We started in a light rain in the comfortable 40's. We were in the clouds at about 4000' and it got noticeably colder. We hit a low of 36.9, with a cooling breeze.

We look a break at the cabin for a bit so Joe could change socks before heading back.

Almost back to the Truck we ran into Chums, just starting his hike.

This one was better than I expected.
Felt strange to be home so early on a Saturday, so I took a nap.

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From recent heavy rains

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From recent heavy rains

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From recent heavy rains
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