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Jun 05 2019
CannondaleKid
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 Mesa, AZ
Pioneer Ferndell & Middle Trails, AZ 
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Hiking6.60 Miles 2,195 AEG
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After bailing on the AZT 27 three-day backpack yesterday we were left with two days to fill.

So what would be a good day-hike without high temps or smoke? How about Pinal Peak? Sounds good, but which trail? Something new?

Well, the only trail on Pinal or Madera we had yet to hike was Pioneer, and it would be the quickest TH to drive to so it was an easy choice.

Although neither of us had even been on this trail, we both surmised it was very possibly in the best condition in a long time, if not ever. It appears there had been very significant recent maintenance, which makes sense with the new fence line running all the way from near the trailhead to as far as halfway along the Ferndell Trail (we would see it end later in the hike.), including a new easy-to-open gate near the upper end of Pioneer.

If high humidity and elevation weren't enough, a flare-up of leg nerve-pain made the ascent brutal (for me) but with Tracey in the lead I just toughed it out without complaint (out loud anyway... silently? that was a whole 'nother thing).

Once at the top the rest was a breeze... thankfully there was an actual breeze. A quick jaunt along Ferndell, spotting a few deer, wandering a bit, a bit on the Middle trail then heading back for the descent.

After what I had experienced on the ascent I had already mentally prepared for knee & hip complaints on the descent so it was a very welcome surprise that I was pain-free all the way down. With my legs in cruise-control-mode I didn't realize just how fast the pace was, which meant I had to stop and wait for Tracey a number of times... not a usual occurrence.

Encountered a few deer on the descent but here-and-gone too quickly for photos.

While the drive east had gone by quickly, the drive back west on the 60 was a different story.
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20-25 mph all the way from Oak Flat to Superior behind a truck which never used its brakes the whole distance... solely relying on the 'Jake-brake' all the way. The loud clattering got to be quite unnerving, especially through the tunnel.
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Jun 30 2018
joebartels
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East Pinals Loop, AZ 
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Hiking18.31 Miles 5,236 AEG
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East Mountain Trail #214
The lower access isn't winning any awards. The upper trailhead and top quarter mile are blah. The core delivers. Fabulous distant views through tall pines. Low expectations transitioned to wows throughout. Per usual @PrestonSands wrote a nice description. Apparently this trail has received well deserved maintenance since 2006. If hiking the Pinals out of Autumn foliage, this will be on my radar.

Pioneer Trail #196
This trail has received serious trail maintenance since 2013. Great trail. Signage still says Squaw Spring 196. FS website still calling it Pioneer Trail 196.

Ferndell Trail #204
Year 'round winner, worthy for any loop.

Icehouse Canyon Trail #198
Bruce noticed the upper end was remarkably groomed and cut well into the slope. He's always correct. We passed a group of 9 ACE workers tackling multiple areas. New large aluminum water trough built to last installed over a half mile north of Telephone junction. No fire damage in the top mile or so. The torching builds down to Telephone junction. All traveled fine. No trees to climb over on any of our loop today, just easily stepped over a couple.

Telephone Trail #192 - Pinal
Icehouse side is torched for the most part. Views over to Kellner and down Icehouse are torched. Sixshooter side pines are mostly intact with some mixed burn. Trail itself is in decent condition.

Six Shooter Trail #197
Always a winner. We thought the 3/4 mile to Ferndale sign was missing a solid mile. Perhap a quarter mile short, the steep grade just feels like an extra mile...lol

Better than anticipated multiple loop. We lucked out on temps averaging 5 degrees cooler than normal. 5k loops this close to the Sonoran Skillet in late June are likely not this nice.
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Jun 30 2018
The_Eagle
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East Pinals Loop, AZ 
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The_Eagle
Hiking18.58 Miles 5,282 AEG
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I've had this one drawn up for awhile to sample East Mountain and some other exploration I've wanted to do. This is the first time I've done the Pinals when they were not decked out in their fall colors. They are a worthy destination for some cooler temps.

We parked at the upper parking for the Toll Road #200 Trail. It was a short downhill hike, to the the up for the East Mountain Trail #214. This trail climbs 1150' over 2 miles taking you through great views North and then to the West. The trail is in great shape. We contemplated going off trail to the summit, but were enjoying the trail too much. Also good views, of what we later found out to be El Capitan, to the south.

Next up on the Pioneer Trail #196 (previously Squaw Spring Trail #196). We'd been down this trail before, but it's seen some well needed love since then and is in great shape. Short of driving to the top, this is the shortest hike to reach Pinal Peak.

Ferndell #204 is starting to get a bit overgrown, but it's a short hike to get to the spring area. We did a bit of a road walk over to Icehouse Canyon.

Icehouse Canyon Trail #198 is in the middle of seeing some love. We ran into a trail crew of 9 from ACE, in day 4 of their maintenance of this trail. We thanked them all for their hard work and moved on. There is a brand new aluminum spring box that has been installed. They have not even turned the water on to it yet. I marked the location on HAZ and gave it the name Icehouse Canyon Springbox. Doghouse Spring, close to the intersection with Telephone Trail also has a brand new concrete catchment, full of great water. The fire burn gets more noticeable the closer you get to this intersection.

The Telephone Trail #192 had the most noticeable fire damage, until you got to the ridgeline alternate way up. Lots of burned Manzanita. This trail is in decent shape, all the way to Six Shooter. At this intersection, there is also a new concrete spring box, filled with water.

We went up the steep Six Shooter #196, past Ferndell Spring, all the way to 651C. Over to and down on Pioneer Trail, to Pioneer Pass and down to the Truck to complete the double loop.

An enjoyable and suggested option if you are in the Pinals.






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Plenty of clear cool water to filter from in the new spring box

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Plenty of clear cool water to filter from

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Brand new Aluminum springbox all freshly piped and ready to go. Stay Tuned.


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Plenty of clear cool water to filter from. New concrete spring box at intersection of Telephone and Sixshooter trails
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May 05 2018
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 Phoenix, AZ
Pinal Signal Peak Loop, AZ 
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Nightstalker
Hiking9.88 Miles 2,478 AEG
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My hiking pals Gallydoll and Dan decided to join me on this loop I put together to beat the PHX heat. Drove out to Globe and then up to Pioneer Pass, the trailhead location. We passed through the NF campground en route and it was over flowing with tents and trucks. With all the people nearby, I was thinking we might not have the solitude I was expecting, but we saw no one on the trail.

We started up Pioneer Trail (signed as Squaw Spring #196) about 7:30am. Very pleasant ascent passing through thick manzanita groves and tall pines. Checked out a fenced off spring near the top of the trail. After reaching the end of trail #196, we worked our way over to Ferndale Trail #204. Standing at the trail sign, Ferndale didn't look too promising, but once we were on it, we were rewarded with a nice stroll through more tall pines. Just before reaching the intersection of Six Shooter and the end of Ferndale, we spied a whitetail deer tracking our movements along the trail.

We turned left onto Six Shooter trail #197 for a short jaunt up to the road and then followed the road out to Signal Peak. I was very disappointed to find that the Fire Lookout Tower is closed to visitors.

We took in the views and returned on the road to Pipeline Trail #193. Pipeline was easy enough to follow, but starting to grow in here and there. After climbing over to a ridgeline, the trail looked like it passed through an engineered break in the fenceline, however, a faint trail, which turned out to be Middle Trail #202, headed east which was more in the direction I was interested in going. Well, faint was the best this trail got. We passed the terminus of Six Shooter and climbed over a bunch of fallen trees to get out to the road.

We followed the road up to Pinal Peak proper, enjoyed the views for a bit and returned the way we came back down Squaw Spring trail. Temps were probably in the 70s on the top, and just over 80 at the trailhead. Sure beats 100+ back in Phoenix. Welcome to summer!

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Oct 21 2017
cindyl
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 Phoenix, AZ
Pioneer Trail #196Globe, AZ
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i wanted to do a hike, bobby wanted to see the peak, but not hike, so we drove down from pioneer pass so we could drive to pinal peak, then i hiked back down to our campground. not as much fall color as i've seen on other trails, since the trees are mainly oak and manzanita. one little area with some maple, but they were down the canyon from the trail. there are far worse ways to spend a saturday afternoon. saw no one and no critters along the trail, but lots of bear poo.
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Oct 17 2016
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Pioneer Trail #196Globe, AZ
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Took the day off of work to heed the call of the Pinals and adventure. Did a bit of antiquing in Globe and then made my way up to Pioneer Pass. It had been ten years since I had last hiked this trail, and the good memories came flooding back as I started climbing the mountain side. The trail was in great shape, and recently groomed. I spooked a few deer along the way, and made it to the top in an hour. Next up was Ferndell Trail, which did not disappoint, with plenty of aspen gold and fiery maples. The fall colors drew me down the Sixshooter Trail a bit as well. Dozens of photos later, I made my way back up Sixshooter in the growing, late afternoon chill, and then turned onto the Middle Trail to complete my mountain top excursion. Admired the views to the south, and then made a quick return down the Pioneer Trail. Transmission trouble plagued my thoughts on the way home, but otherwise a perfect day. Adventures like these are far too few for me these days.

All of these trails were in good shape. Only saw one fallen tree across the very upper end of Sixshooter. Good job trail crews!
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Oct 31 2015
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East Mountain Trail #214Globe, AZ
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Hiking14.10 Miles 3,752 AEG
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Added this hike to the list after reading the triplog posted by rayhuston on 9/5. We parked and started from the Una Del Oso TH and hiked the loop clockwise, Una Del Oso :next: Toll Road :next: East Mountain :next: Pioneer :next: Ferndell :next: Six Shooter. The gem was East Mountain, great trail, and forever views. Pioneer was a nice trail but sure was a slog up, I was sure glad to see those towers appear. We had lunch on top off the Ferndell Trail and boy was it cold. With the wind chill I suspect it was in the low 40's. Six Shooter looked a little battered at the top but the lower half was as nice as ever. Hit 112 and then hiked the half mile to the truck. No other hikers seen the entire trip.
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 Gilbert, AZ
Pinal Mountain Eastern Loop, AZ 
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Hiking16.48 Miles 4,183 AEG
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Pinal Mountain was on my mind for this weekend, but I wanted to do something other than the four popular trails, each of which I've hiked at least twice. I pulled up the Pinal Mtn map to see all of the possibilities. I found several trails on the east side that I hadn't been on. These new trails would get me to the top of the mountain from the east side and make a nice loop with one of the popular north/south trails on the downside (I chose Telephone). I started on Six Shooter and followed FR 112 a short distance to Una Del Oso.

This would have been a great hike were it not for the steady rain starting on the East Mountain Trail all the way to Pinal Peak. Rather than enjoying expansive views, I was stuck in soup and rain for probably the nicest portion of the hike. As I approached the junction with Pioneer Trail, I couldn't even see Pinal Mountain, and it was right in front of me! By the time I got to the top of the Pioneer Trail, my boots were full of water and felt like lead.

The trails on this route were mostly good to great. The Pioneer Trail near the top (last 1/2 mile or so) and the Ferndell trail were overgrown but nothing thorny enough to slow you down. A section of Six Shooter was washed out just above the junction with Telephone, but easy enough to get around.

This was a great workout hike on mostly good trails. The views on East Mountain would have been spectacular were it not for the rain and fog. I think I will do this one again.
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Feb 23 2014
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Hiking4.60 Miles 1,644 AEG
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Nice hike. Two hints. 1. Trail road sign has been knocked down. Just before the road starts descending, you are at the trailhead. 2. There are a lot of overgrown bushes leaning into the trail. You will want to wear long pants or you may have scratched and perhaps bloody legs after the hike.
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Im very familiar with this area I work up at the towers on signal peak so I spend a lot of time up there. I did theis hike just before sunset I was actually on a deer hunt that day. On the trail I met another hunter who had told me the previous day he seen a mountain lion attack a white tail doe near the wooden steps. I looked when I got there and could see the tracks and sign of a struggle. It is a very scenic hike lots of wild life and thick forest with views for miles and miles the temp was about 50 at the start of my hike and 35 when I got back to my car the temp drops quickly when the sun goes down. During the winter you may experience heavy snow storms so come prepared.
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Pioneer Bobtail Loop, AZ 
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Hiking13.10 Miles 3,800 AEG
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I've been curious about Bobtail Ridge #194 after a failed attempt 4 years ago with Chris, Wally & Stefan. After careful planning I threw together a loop with two mines noted on topo. Knowing the destroyed nature of Bobtail it was necessary to put it last to be sure there would be no turning back.

Pioneer Trail #196 is currently an all out friendly brush wade for roughly the upper 0.75 mile. This was my first time completing the lower end. It impressed me more than anticipated. The pines keep rolling all the way down to the lower end. There are a few non-pine stretches. The views are top notch IMO. I'd do this again in a heartbeat. On the way down we passed a family of all ages, a pleasant surprise.

Next up were a couple old mines spotted on topo with some defunct roads viewable on satellite. Didn't look much for the first. It may be there but it isn't easily visible. The second was fairly well cleaned up based on other mines I've seen over the years. A few relics linger in the bushes if you look around. Of more interest to myself were the nice views.

To get out of the tangled web I saw something that looked cleared but not a road heading straight back down to FS221. Took a bit to find but it worked nice albeit sliding steep in areas. Bruce called it, it appears to be a fire break.

Back on FS221 we headed over to the bottom of Bobtail. Along the way we found a shady Arizona White Oak to make due for lunch. It wasn't particularly comfortable, the views aren't much from the lower end and it was the warmest segment of our loop... nevertheless a break

Excitement kicked in approaching Bobtail as it has nagged my mind for years. No sign. Since it rides a pitched ridge it's difficult to see what lies ahead. From what I gathered this trail was not a Bruce "favorite". It could use a clip. A cairn here and there would make it easier to navigate. In the end Bruce looked like he'd jumped into a sausage grinder. It didn't seem like a Twin Peaks Trail #240 torture chamber yet I'm glad it's over. Outstanding views in the upper 2/3rds and nice pines in the upper half are the pleasant thoughts I take away.
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here and there, nothing to write home about

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Hiking13.42 Miles 4,400 AEG
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Joe's turn to pick and plan...he started Friday night around 8pm. So we were off to the Pinals to do some trails I've never been on, and that Joe never completed.

Knew it was going to be one of those days when we missed the upper Pioneer #196 TH (Still signed as Squaw Spring #196). We turned around and saw the TH sign sticking out of the brush. At least this is friendly brush, and only lasted 3/4 mile. The pine trees kept coming and the views were quite nice.

A short walk on FR112 and we were on an old Jeep trail that on the map, led past 2 mines.
The first was a no show, the second had been filled in, but there were all sorts of interesting trinkets left behind.

From this point we bailed on a portion that Joe had drawn up because it was just to "Thick". We scouted a route down to get us over the Bob Tail Ridge Trail. We found an area that had been cleared long ago, removing all the sharp crap. It was steep and loose, but ultimately got us down to FR221 unscathed.

Now for the fun part... The Bobtail Ridge Trail #194. Joe mentioned (after we started the hike of course), that he's tried this trail from the top before. He said they'd bailed on going down because of the crappy conditions. I would not at all be surprised, if the last feet to touch this trail were Joe and Stillers 4 years ago. The GPS tracks we posted are actually "On Trail" for probably better than 95% of the time. The problem was that "The Trail" has all sorts of things growing in it that you have to go through, over, and under and love to rob you of your precious blood. My arms look like hamburger today. Sure the views were nice, but I would not recommend this trail to anyone, unless you are not playing with a full deck.

We started up top in the morning at 72*, it got up to 94.5* for a high, and finished at 77* back up top. It was in the 90's for the climb up Bobtail Ridge trail.

Saw 3 deer (one decent buck in velvet), a Woodpecker, blue jays, and 2 Coti running in front of the truck. We also could hear some Coti on the Pioneer Trail.
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Couldn't tell the flow. It's surrounded by a fence and encased in a metal tank. The ground was wet around it, but could see no area were you could filter from.
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Pioneer Trail #196Globe, AZ
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Hiking5.00 Miles 1,644 AEG
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I hadn't been out out this way before but found it an enjoyable trip. It's not very far out of Globe and gets you into the cool pines. A couple comments to augment the description:
1. The road passes a few picnic areas near the top but you hit the trail (#196) right at the crest...it's not an obvious trailhead.
2. The trail passes through nice manzanita before entering the pines and in some places is being swallowed by the spring greenery.
3. Look both ways when you near the top...some folks bring their cars. I saw a white-tail deer among the microwave towers.
4. When I got back to the car just for fun I continued South down the (narrowing) dirt road. I only went a couple miles to a fork before deciding that even with a map and GPS I had no idea if continuing was smart - so I retreated.

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Some flow from one of the plastic pipes...
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Hiking6.04 Miles 1,986 AEG
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Always a pleasure hiking with John. Thanks again for driving and the great grub @ Chalo's in Globe. The trip to Globe started out on a bad foot because US 60 was closed @ the eastern end of Superior so we had to take the scenic route through Hayden and Winkelman before ending up @ the eastern side of Globe. Also did the Ferndell Trail which is in terrible shape, and the upper portion of Sixshooter before its termination at the Middle Trail.
Great weather, and the Pinals are always great. I'm going to post only the Pioneer Trail #196 portion of our GPS route because there's no default route of the complete trail.

Note: all of the signage referred to this as the "Squaw Springs Trail #196." The Tonto NF website refers to it as the Pioneer Trail #196. The signs at both the lower- and upper ends looked to be fairly new as they haven't been shot yet.
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Water was coming out of the pipe as fast as ever, and I've never seen it dry. There was also a very good flow coming out of the ground just inside the fence above the pipe. This flow was at least 10 gallons-per-minute.
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I lucked out and had Pinal Jim to guide this trip to one of the peaks that I have been trying to get to for a while.

Perfect day with sun, not too hot, light cooling breezes and plenty of shade on the trail. It was very nice to have a pine forest with only us and the animals to share it. Animals, however, all seemed to be hunkerd down somewhere as we only saw one whitetail, a red tail hawk, and a handful of the usual smaller birds.

Jim was kind enough to lead me to a really neat bouldering spot that someone had built a ladder to get down. Talk about luxery! Of course, they hadnt built a crash pad around it and so I passed on trying to scramble the harder parts.

The peak is well populated with communications equipment including a well used but apparently active AT&T multichannel microwave, the usual collection of public service mobile radio and a really nice and new multichannel of unknown purpose.

The public service folks have some winter clean up to do, however as several of the antennas had been bent and were even hitting the towers.

Speaking of cleanup, the Ferndell trail was almost impassable with dead fall which included the power line down to the spring's water pump. Spring was flowing even without the pump and made for a great cool place to rest up.

Chalos (the origional) was great as usual and the DPS had cleaned up whatever was blocking US 60 in the Canyon so we zipped home in time to punctuate a great day with a fantastic "El Sols" victory.

Jim, being much younger and energetic, was off to hike with his mom today. What a great way to celebrate mother's day.
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nice flow that had found its way out of the piping and was running down the creek bed like it is supposed to. Clear and cool water
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Bobtail Ridge Trail #194Globe, AZ
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We attempted the Bobtail Trail without much luck. It just doesn't really exist or perhaps we missed a turn. We only managed to go down one mile of the 2.3mi listed on the sign. Heading back we got off track. Plowing through a sixteenth of a mile of solid prickly bush with New Mexico Locust took an hour and about a pint of blood. Chris the one guy with pants didn't endure the fun. We got separated and headed over to #196 by directions etched in the dust of the truck. Heading down a good distance we were getting out of the pines and it seemed unlikely we hadn't found Chris. It was back to the trailhead for a couple hours of "Pine on the Boulder". After the Bactine bath I must admit I'm feeling pretty good now.

Still uncommonly COOL temps for late June :)
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Pioneer Trail #196Globe, AZ
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Hiking4.60 Miles 1,644 AEG
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Another enjoyable hike up the Squaw Spring Trail. Roamed around on top of Pinal Peak. Saw 3 white tailed deer below Squaw Spring, may have been the same as on my last Squaw Spring hike. Hiking time on this trip was: 1 hour 11 minutes up, 40 minutes down.
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Apparently the forest service is calling this trail Pioneer Trail #196 now. http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/tonto/recreation/rogs/hikingtrail/grd/PioneerTrail196.pdf
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It was getting late in the afternoon, so I had to hike fast on this one. This was a very nice hike, better than I had expected. All the gambel oaks were a deep yellow-orange, with a few red maples thrown in.
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