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 Chandler, AZ
Trap CanyonPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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John10sTriplogs 143
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I hiked into Trap Canyon from the east entrance back in November, and the plan today was to explore Trap from the west side. Peralta Trailhead had the usual mass of Weaver's Needle hikers, but the crowds thinned out immediately on Dutchman Trail, and the morning shadows and haze after sunrise were beautiful as we headed toward Miner's Needle. I was pleased to find that someone had done a lot of trail maintenance along Whiskey Spring Trail since my last visit. There was a half-mile stretch before and after the spring where the catclaw had overtaken the trail in November, but everything was trimmed back this time, which saved a lot of time and bloodshed.

Along Red Tanks, even before entering Trap Canyon, the geology was already looking very interesting. The inside of the canyon was even more impressive, with all kinds of caves, alcoves, jumbles of boulders, and at least one arch that we saw. As soon as we entered Trap, we passed the large "second story" alcove on the north side of the canyon. There was plenty to explore, but we kept moving to get as far in as we could before turnaround time.

[ youtube video ]

In the part of the canyon we were in, we didn't encounter any spots where we had to go in the water, though I did unexpectedly sink shin-deep into wet sand near some shallow pools. It looked like solid ground, so it was a surprise when I took a step and felt my boot continue sinking. On the hike out, the same thing happened again with the other foot in a slightly different spot. I guess the silver lining was that my boots were equally full of water and sand, so the weight wasn't lopsided for the hike out...fool me once, shame on the quicksand; fool me twice, shame on me :)

We did a little more exploring on the hike out, and I climbed up to the upper alcove. It's a huge space and seemed like a prime spot for cliff dwellings, but there weren't signs of any up there--just a lot of boulders and some modern stacks of rocks. I also went over and took a look at an alcove along the base of the cliff wall on the opposite side of the canyon and found the same thing--some modern "walls" stacked inside, but not much else.

Upper alcove: [ youtube video ]
Lower alcove: [ youtube video ]

We spent a few minutes searching for the mysterious black "Apache curse" handprint on the way out but didn't see it...but, if it's truly cursed, maybe that's for the best :). We only went a relatively short distance into the canyon and were still far from the traps, but there was an impressive amount of variety in scenery even in that limited section of Trap, and it would be easy to spend hours exploring deeper into the canyon. Trap is still on my list for a return visit to complete the thru-hike and see the good stuff in the middle...and that handprint.

We decided to hike our same route back to Peralta instead of completing the full Trap west entrance loop. Wildflower season is starting to kick in, and we saw a lot of color today. The temperature was perfect, and other than around the trailhead, we only saw four backpackers all day.
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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Multiple pools and some light trickles

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Small pools, a trickle of water at the spring box

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Trap CanyonPhoenix, AZ
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John10sTriplogs 143
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We set out from Peralta Trailhead just before sunrise with plans to explore Trap Canyon, entering from the east side off of Hoolie Bacon Trail. We weren't sure if we'd have time to hike through the full length of the canyon and make it a loop...if not, we planned to make it an out-and-back...either way, it was going to be around 18-20 miles round trip, and we'd have to make a decision based on time and the conditions in Trap.

It was a comfortable morning, and we made good time on Dutchman but started to run into catclaw on Whiskey Spring Trail as we approached the spring. It had been almost two years since I last hiked in that area, and there's been a lot of regrowth after the wildfires, but, unfortunately, a lot of that regrowth is the sharp, thorny stuff. The spring was dry, and we trimmed a lot of branches out of our way as we hiked, but the brush slowed us down, and we still picked up a lot of scratches.

We followed Red Tanks Trail through Upper La Barge, and there was quite a bit of water in the canyon--more than we'd seen all day. Since we had a lot of miles to cover, we didn't make the climb up to Herman's Cave but continued to Hoolie Bacon #111 and headed for the east entrance to Trap Canyon. Calling #111 a trail is generous in a lot of areas...for the first quarter mile or more past the intersection with #107, it's not much more than occasional cairns, with almost no discernable route--it's clearly an area that doesn't get a lot of use.

As we entered Trap Canyon, it was clear that hiking the length of the canyon and completing the full loop was going to be optimistic for the amount of daylight we had left. But we explored some of the small overhangs/caves along the canyon wall and saw the grinding holes. It was hard to tell for sure if they are manmade or formed naturally through erosion--there were larger recessions in the floor in that area that looked natural, but some of the holes on top of the boulders were almost perfectly spherical and looked manmade...either way, an interesting area.

[ youtube video ]

We continued a little further into the canyon and started to see the massive boulders that form the traps. We didn't make it to the infamous "big" trap before reaching our turnaround time. We would have had to start scrambling down to continue further...getting down would have been no issue; getting back up might have been iffy given the slick rock and lack of handholds in some areas. It didn't seem wise to risk committing ourselves to a through hike when we were short on time and didn't know what other obstacles or pools of water were still ahead of us, so we stopped there and ate lunch on the boulders before turning around.

[ youtube video ]

We battled the catclaw again along Hoolie Bacon and decided to make a quick stop at Herman's Cave on the way out as a consolation for not getting to explore further into Trap Canyon. The climb up to the cave was less brushy than I remembered from my first visit there four or five years ago, but it seemed like there was more loose dirt this time. There was a strong skunk smell near the entrance to the cave, but at least it temporarily masked the fainter guano smell on the inside :).

On the hike out, we just followed the creek bed toward Whiskey Spring to avoid more of the brush on the trail, and we took one more short break at the Dutchman intersection to eat again before finishing off the hike. We had a nice sunset and a sliver of the moon overhead over the last few miles, and we were back at Peralta just after the sun completely set. We could see flashlights from people coming down from Peralta as we packed up. We didn't see anyone else on the trails all day, and it was fun exploring the little bit of Trap Canyon that we saw. I'd love to return to Trap and do the full through hike with someone who's done it before and knows the obstacles--there's a lot of great stuff to see in there.
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Feb 28 2021
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Caught in a Trap (Canyon) IV, AZ 
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It was a nice winter day, so I decided to make another trip to Trap Canyon.

We went in the west side, and we went a bit farther than I had gone before -- we were probably 2,000 feet or so from the east end of the canyon. I could tell that a couple of my compadres were not really interested in going farther, so we reversed course and went back to the Red Tanks Trail on the west side of the canyon.

It was a great day to do the hike -- the temperature was around 60 and it was sunny and breezy. Early on we saw a few backpackers, and we saw a few more backbackers within a mile of the TH. I think that we only encountered one day hiker the whole day, and that was around Miners Needle.

As we neared the TH, at the Bluff Springs-Dutchman trail junction, we saw a group of about 10-15 bighorn sheep on the cliffs to the west. The sheep hung around for a long time, and that was cool to see.
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There are no wildflowers blooming at this time.

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There were a few pools of water in Trap Canyon. Most were stagnant water, but you might have been able to filter water in a couple of the pools.

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There was a little bit of water around the spring.
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It was a nice day so I decided to make another trip out to Trap Canyon. Like the last time, I did the Whiskey West-Red Tanks loop CW with an in-and-out side trip into Trap Canyon.

From the Red Tanks Trail, I went 2 miles into Trap Canyon. I would have liked to continue, but I got a late start to the hike and it was 1:15 when I decided to turn around, since I had almost 10 miles to turn around and hike back to the TH. Trap Canyon is pretty cool, and I am hoping to start earlier and go all the way through the canyon next time.

It was a good day to be out -- there was some cloud cover part of the day which was welcome with the mid 60's temperatures. I only saw 3 people all day -- one hiker on the Bluff Springs Trail and two backpackers on the Whiskey Spring Trail.
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I decided to make another trip to Trap Canyon -- this time I went in from the west side. I followed the route from the "Trap Canyon - West Entrance Loop", although I went farther in the canyon than on this loop hike. Even so, I only got about half-way through the canyon. I would have liked to go further, but I got a late start and didn't want to spend Christmas Eve night hunkered down in Trap Canyon.

This was my first time to be on the Bluff Springs Trail since the fires last summer. There was no fire damage for about 1.25 miles, but after that there was quite a bit of damage in places. It got torched pretty good close to the Dutchman Trail. I was happy to see that the large trees in the riparian area near La Barge Spring survived the fire. In fact, they had some nice fall color!

I saw 7 people on the Bluff Spring Trail and did not see another person until I got almost back to the TH, where I saw another hiker. I am not counting the 2 dead bodies in Trap Canyon -- just kidding; but I would not have been to surprised to find a body in there, as it is a bit creepy in Trap Canyon.

I plan to go back again and see if I can make my way all the way through the canyon, and I'll have to decide whether to come in from the east side or the west side.
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Dec 15 2020
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Caught in a Trap (Canyon), AZ 
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With the weather being nice, I decided that this would be a good day to go check out a bit of Trap Canyon, which I had never been to. I decided to go in on the east side, and I wound up going on 3 trails that I had not been on before: Whiskey Spring, Red Tanks, and Hoolie Bacon.

I started a bit later than I intended, and the going was a lot slower on the Red Tanks Trail than I envisioned, so I was not able to get very far into Trap Canyon due to time constraints. I plan to get out there again and go into the canyon from the west side and check it out. Sometime I'd like to go all the way through the canyon, but I'll have to start earlier than I did today. On today's hike, from Trap Canyon I went back the same way that I came, so it was an out-and-back hike.

I enjoyed hiking in a part of the Supes that I had not been to before, although there was some significant fire damage on some portions of the hike. The worst damage was on the Dutchman Trail, including the area around Miners Needle. I imagine that thousands of saguaros will die -- even if new saguaros started now, as slow as they grow it would take 75-100 years for them to get back to the way they were.

The Whiskey Spring, Red Tanks, and Hoolie Bacon trails were all a bit overgrown -- you'll brush up against a bit of catsclaw on these trails, although it isn't TOO bad.

I did not encounter even one person on the hike -- there were a few cars at the parking lot, but I guess that the people there went up the Peralta Trail trying to find the Wave Cave!...lol
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Nov 14 2020
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Trap CanyonPhoenix, AZ
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Canyoneering16.90 Miles 2,909 AEG
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I haven't been into Trap Canyon for a while so it was time. I took a short cut through a side canyon then up over the saddle, up a summit and then into Trap canyon. I forgot how nice it is inside that canyon. You have shade most of the time it's cool and scenic and nobody else is there. I hiked almost to the end but decided to turn around and return via the canyon to avoid the sun. I saw about 4 other hikers all day.
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Apr 12 2015
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I hiked into Trap Canyon to locate an old drift mine. No luck finding the mine but I did see a few claim markers. I took a slightly different route out of the canyon but avoided being cliffed out. The weather was nice and I saw a black-tailed rattler on the way back to Red Tanks trail.
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Trap CanyonPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,291
Canyoneering18.00 Miles 3,600 AEG
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Turned out better than anticipated, most of the canyon was intriguing throughout. We spent a couple hours in the upper canyon grid searching the entire trap area. The trap hasn't moved or changed a bit. Nor could it be expected to fill in over the years or such. This canyon does not have a large catch. The blue camp roll we spotted five years ago has barely moved.

Moving down canyon I expected the good stuff to be over. It's slow going. Nothing to strenuous. Less bushwhacking than anticipated yet about as much as I care to encounter. The geology and uniqueness is well worth the effort. Canyons don't dazzle me like they did fifteen years ago. While I wouldn't rush out for a return trip it's a solid choice.

Minor scrambling. Don't expect any saints to usher in ladders.
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Wildflowers Observation Moderate
great variety, check out Bruce's photos

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still a winner, crystal clear in trough

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large pools trickling, hazy / cloudy / stoolish
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Trap Canyon Loop, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 1,941
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Almost 5 years since me, Joe and another Dave hit the trap. That time we were looking for signs of Jesse Capin. At that time I told myself I needed to get back to run the length of this magical canyon. I had planned on this being one tough nut to crack, but in all actuality, it wasn't bad at all. Common sense would say long pants and long sleeves, my long sleeves and pants stayed in my pack. I prefer being cooler, to a few scrapes here and there.

We took our time all day, none of us with much sleep to speak of. Flowers were most prevalent on Whiskey Spring #238 and the Red Tanks Trails #107. Quite the variety, but no huge patches.

It was almost 9 miles exactly to get to our shortcut turnoff to get into Trap Canyon and another 2.5 miles to get through Trap Canyon. This first part, right off of Hoolie Bacon #111, is probably the thickest to get through in the entire canyon. We stopped at the first alcove on the right (North) to check out the large quantity of Grinding Holes. Next the bouldering begins in anticipation of getting to the largest of the "Traps" in the entire canyon.

We spent a considerable amount of time in this Trap, checking it all out.

Trap Video = :next: youtu.be/8muG4WMBsyQ

At the mouth of the trap by the creek bed, we had a bit of lunch before continuing down canyon. All sorts of Sweet geology to ogle over.

There were at least 3 more much smaller traps that we checked out on the way. Nothing anywhere near as impressive as the first one.

At the time we did this hike, we were able to get down the entire length of the canyon without getting wet. There was one section I chose to get wet (3'deep) in lieu of climbing up and around like Joe and Dave. Joe went high left, Dave went high right, and I went down the middle.

Two other memorable areas.

First we skirted some water, went around a corner, and Dave stumbled on this = :next: [ photo ] .

Second, there is an area with three larger alcoves. The most impressive, was a huge second story unit.
One of the smaller Alcoves = :next: https://youtube.com ... 40qk

I'm glad I finally got to do this thru hike. Well worth the effort.
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Plenty of sources to filter from

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Box filled with clear water to filter, as well as tadpoles.

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Scattered opportunities to filter water throughout the canyon

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Didn't see sources, but plenty of filterable water in the area

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Trap CanyonPhoenix, AZ
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This was an in and out hike with some exploring along the way. I hiked Dutchman, Whiskey, Red Tanks to Trap Canyon. I explored a while and did a flip/roll on a loose slope. No injuries but I wasn't finding anything good so I ventured out. I walked up on some bees but they were docile so no worries. I decided to visit the metate Lee found. I ended up on a steep scramble but I didn't want to go down so I kept going. Once at the metate I realized why it's still there and most people would never see it. I scrambled down a much easier route and hit the trail again. The trails were in good shape water was available in Whiskey Canyon, Trap Canyon and La Barge Creek. Nice day for a hike.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Trap Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
The spring had water with a deep pool below. More water up canyon as well.

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some water at the spring but more along the creek.
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RowdyandMeTriplogs 1,868
Hiking20.07 Miles 3,395 AEG
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Well I hit the trail early and ran into some trouble early just to find out I had more problems. But the weather was great and I think I got some of my better pictures. So it was worth it. I fell on Whiskey Springs and got cut up pretty well as twisting my knee, but that was just the beginning. As I headed up Hoolie Bacon I stop for my insulin shot. Once I got to Trap Canyon Trailhead I decide to stop and eat some lunch of course that is when I relized my lunch was still in my fridge at home bummer. Well I had taken my shot on time but now I don't have my lunch. I am using a new type of gps on my phone and it had me all over the place. I never found the trailhead to enter Trap Canyon. So without my lunch I decide to head back. I had to stop a few times just to focus on what I was doing. After I got my bearings I continued on my way.
After connecting with the Bluff Springs Trail I felt a lot better knowing I was getting close to my car.
I will have to go back again and finish what I started. Still I hit 20 miles today.
I was a little bummed out today to see the Peralta Road had been graded just for a marathon nothing more nothing less.
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Outdoor Lover joined me for my long-overdue second trip around this loop. The first time was a solo trip, in which I didn't get to explore enough of Trap Canyon and failed to find the Master Map. It was more relaxing this time around, since I knew more about what to expect, didn't go crazy with spare water, had better direction to the Master Map, and had a hiking buddy already broken in.

For a detailed account of the adventure, check out Pam's report here: http://hikearizona.com/trip=96237. I won't repeat much, but just add a few comments and observations.

Meeting everyone at LaBarge Spring was even more of a highlight than I expected. I can't say how much I enjoyed hanging out around the campfire. Somehow it felt like being at home.
I especially appreciated Dave1 joining us for the side trip to Trap Canyon. Hopefully I'll eventually find what I'm looking for in there.

Besides finally finding the Master Map, I learned that the trail between LaBarge Spring and Charlebois Spring is not entirely on cobbles in the creek. (The trail is a lot shorter, too). In 2008, the catclaw was much worse, and it pretty much drove me into creek the whole length between Whiskey Spring and Charlebois.

Thanks to Pam for gutting it out and to everyone else for meeting up.
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Charlebois Loop IIPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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1st trip
The Master Plan
Alex wanted to do the Charlebois Loop II and check out Trap Canyon for Ruins before continuing on to Charlebois in the Quest for the Master Map....Turns out Mike, Kate and Frankie and possibly Lee were going to be in the area as well and everyone was hoping to meet up at LaBarge Spring. Dave decided to join in the Fun after work on Saturday....

Day 1
The Weather wasn't looking good for Saturday Morning kickoff and as I drove in on Peralta, it really was looking like we might get wet, at least briefly...The Entire Ridgeline was missing, hidden in a large, ominous Cloud....Alex just beat me there and shortly thereafter, two large White Dogs showed up, which could only mean that Lee was there as well...Lee's plan was to Hike in on Bluff Spring Trail, while we had opted to go via Dutchman and Whiskey...

And we were off....The Clouds threatened, but amazingly enough, never unloaded...But the Lighting provided, with the Clouds and the Sunrise breaking through occasionally was pretty darn good...I probably took half of my total Pictures on the first 4 Miles of the Trip...It was nice and cool and we made good time, taking a small break at the Coffee Flat Junction before the uphill began...We got most of the Uphill out of the way and then had to stop for a Photo Op that even Alex couldn't resist.... :D Saw our first Tarantula of the Trip on the way along the Dutchman as well...Next stop was Whiskey Spring...Alex and I debated about where the actual Spring was, as I hadn't found it when I did this area in April...Upon reaching the Flat Portion of the Trail along the Creek, I spotted a small Trail leading down to the Creek and took it with the intent of taking a Break there...Turns out, the Trough for the Spring was 20 feet away... 8)

After the Break we continued on, deciding to Camp the Night at LaBarge with everyone else and backtracking to Trap Canyon the next day on fresher legs...I wasn't doing too badly considering I hadn't done a Backpack since Grand Gulch...My Pack was 10 lbs lighter than I had ever packed, which certainly helped...Was feeling an Arthritic Left Knee, but knew that going in, so I had started an Ibuprofen Regimen to keep the pain to just "annoying".... :sweat: We reached LaBarge in pretty good time after running into a Caravan of Horse and Mule Riders, but no one else was there yet...Lee, his Friend, Cupcake and Blanco showed up soon after that, followed shortly by Frankie, who had never hooked up with Mike and Kate...Lee took off for a bit to go exploring and in a bit, Mike and Kate showed up...Camps were set up and then Dinner, Socializing, and a Campfire commenced...And then Dave made it in, super flying from Peralta to LaBarge in 1.75 hours... :o A low flying Sheriff's Chopper tried to pull us over from Mid Air which seemed a bit odd, and we all had a good laugh about that...Lee and Company showed back up and finished most of the Evening with us. Everyone made plans for the next day, with Alex, Dave and I doubling back to Trap Canyon for most of the Day.... It was a good Day!

Day 2
Got up, said Farewell to Mike, Kate, Frankie, Lee and Co., and got started for Trap...We started a little late, but made the Entrance to Trap in good time and commenced with the Boulder Hopping up the Creek and into the Canyon...Several Cool Alcoves in there and for awhile we continued on up, but it was slow going with a little Bushwacking and almost constant Boulder Hopping and Bouldering. My legs were feeling a little Fatigue from the Day before and I didn't want to keep pushing, so eventually I stopped and just dinked around while Alex and Dave went further up...I leisurely went up a little further behind them, dinked around for awhile more and then casually started back out, taking little breaks here and there to just enjoy....I was almost back out of the Canyon proper when Dave and Alex caught back up to me...They didn't make it all the way to the back, it was just going to take too long, so they had turned around...I know Alex was a little disappointed, but he knew that it just couldn't be done on this Day....It was pretty much determined that the best, most efficient way to do this Canyon would be to try to Camp in it as far as possible and finish it from there...We Boulder Hopped back out and Hiked back to LaBarge...We took a Break and parted ways with Dave who was going to continue on out and head home...Alex and I were going to Hike over to Charlebois, look for the Master Map and Camp there for the Night....

Alex and I made good time over to Charlebois, stopping to look for the Map, using the directions that Lee had given...He couldn't have described the Location any more perfectly than he did...It was right where he said it would be and we found it! After spending a little time there, we retrieved our Packs and continued on to the Spring...Found a Campsite, got set up and headed for the Spring, running into the two guys from Colorado that were Backpacking the same areas...Charlebois is pretty cool, it was my first time there...Lots of Water and the Sycamores were all Peaking with their Autumn Colors....On a nasty side note: A huge Thanks to someone for succeeding in thoroughly turning my Stomach with their "present" at one of the Pools...Someone took a Dump and left a Wrapped Tampon within a Foot of the Water! What the Hell is the Matter with People!!! :o :yuck: : rambo : ](*,) I made sure I took Water from "upstream"...Simply as disgusting as it gets...I hope....

Sometime during this Day, I started to get a little Pain on the outside of my Right Knee...It was a little annoying, but since I didn't remember doing anything to actually "hurt" it, I chalked it up to good old Arthritis, continued my Ibuprofen Regimen, and chose to ignore it...It was on and off again the rest of the Day, but never was bad...My Legs tend to bother me a lot at Night and sometimes it takes quite awhile for them to ease up so I can get comfortable enough to fall asleep...This Night was no different...But it was another good Day!

Day 3
We both got up a little late, broke Camp and headed out...We had determined the Night before that we would go out via Dutchman and Terrapin, so we headed that way...Legs felt good and we made good time all of the Way up to Terrapin Pass...I actually surprised myself a little on the Uphill... :D The Views were spectacular from the Pass...Ran into the Colorado Guys up there and I took a few pictures of them, taking a short Break...

About halfway up to the Pass, the Right Knee started flaring up again, but it was just annoying at that point...That was about to change...As we descended down from the Pass, the annoyance became worse and worse and my Pace slowed considerably...There were more ups and downs before we would reach the Terrapin/Bluff Springs Intersection and the Downhill became more and more difficult and painful...The Knee was starting to refuse to Bend and all of the Strength was going fast...My Pace on the Downhill sections slowed almost to a Crawl with Pain becoming more and more intense...We reached the Final Downhill and could see the Intersection, but I had to stop for a bit as it was becoming too much....Alex actually elected to finish carrying my Pack down the Hill and a little further, and then returning for his... ;)

After the Break, it was a little better and I continued down the Hill to the Intersection and then up the next little Hill. Just that little bit was enough to put the Knee back into full protest...soooo...Alex generously gave up his Hiking Poles and I proceeded to practically use them as Crutches for the rest of the Downhill to the bottom of Barks Canyon...It was very slow going and Alex and I started discussing Options...It was determined that if I had to, I would spend another Night at the Top of Cardiac Hill before trying to descend it...That was the Stretch that I knew would be the biggest Nightmare for me...And I certainly wasn't going to attempt it in the Dark...But before we even got to the bottom of Barks, at one point, I gave up, the Pain was so bad...I dug out the Cell Phone...No Signal, so the only options for me was to sit down and completely give up or try to continue....I continued on at a frustratingly painful Snail's Pace, and we finally made the bottom and the Peralta Rock, where I took a big Break...

I stretched and elevated for awhile and then it seemed that the Pain disappeared, just like that...Just totally weird and I didn't know what to think about what was happening...We started up Barks towards the last Uphill and there was no Pain at all and I could move just fine...Started the Uphill and I was still moving well...Halfway up and I started feeling it again...Got to the Top and it was in full Swing again with no flexibility or strength...But, it was early enough, so I went for Broke with the help of Alex's Poles...If it hadn't been for his Poles, I would have had to descend Cardiac Hill on my A**...But somehow, I slowly but surely got down, stopping at times when things really became almost unbearable.... When I got to the Escape, it was all I could do to keep from breaking down completely, I was so relieved...I haven't had that kind of feeling of Incapacitation in almost 20 Years....That last 3 Miles took us almost 5 Hours I'll bet and I was not a Happy Camper about any of it...I think I gained a few more Gray Hairs... :sk:

Alex....What can I say??? You're not only a good Friend, but an extremely Patient, Understanding, Saint! I couldn't have done it without you and I owe you a Lifetime of something! What a Trooper and a Friend! You were also a Rock!!! And you Rocked!!! I just can't say enough...I will never forget, my Friend.... : app : : app : : app : :kf: :budrose:

And so...it was over...I can honestly say that with the exception of those last 3 Miles, it was a Great Trip! Can't wait for the next one...I think.... :sweat:
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[ checklist ] Buzzards Roost Whiskey Spring
foliage observationfoliage observationfoliage observationfoliage observationfoliage observation
Autumn Foliage Observation Moderate
Near Springs

dry Barks Canyon Dry Dry

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Charlebois Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Charlebois Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max LaBarge Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute

dry Trap Canyon Dry Dry
The Trap Spring shown on the Topo appeared to be Dry, but there was what appeared to be a Seep with a small Pool further up Canyon after the Canyon takes a big bend to the Southeast....

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Trap Canyon Spring Dripping Dripping
The Trap Spring shown on the Topo appeared to be Dry, but there was what appeared to be a Seep with a small Pool further up Canyon after the Canyon takes a big bend to the Southeast....


water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Whiskey Spring Dripping Dripping
Not Dripping from Pipe...There is a small Pool in Trough that could be filterable if needed....

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Nov 16 2013
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LaBarge Spring/Trap Canyon, AZ 
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I got out of work a little early on Saturday and went straight to Peralta TH. Took Bluff Spring Trail to LaBarge Spring and met up with Pam, Alex, TeWa, Frank, Kate, Lee, Kim, Blanco and Cupcake. Had a nice campfire which a few of us stayed up with until about midnight. Nice to meet some new HAZzers! A sheriff's helicopter did a low fly-by at some point and sounded the sirens. Not sure what that was about. On Sunday, Pam, Alex and I took a short hike to Trap Canyon to explore. Nice quick weekend and nice weather! I would like to get some more "bag nights" in like this!
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Charlebois from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
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1st trip
Did the loop CCW with a couple of side trips - one to a campsite from a few years back and one to the west enhance to Trap Canyon - nice alcove there. Great weekday hike and perfect temps. Saw a coyote, a Gila Monster, 4 deer and 6 humans!
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Like she said...
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Dec 26 2010
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Trap CanyonPhoenix, AZ
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I wanted to explore Trap Canyon some more so I dragged my wife along and we did an over-night. We camped at the intersection of Whiskey Springs and La Barge Canyons. I wish I hadn't forgotten the tent fly as it was a little breezy and chilly at night. We saw a low of 41F.

We ran into Wally and CO. at the top of Upper La Barge Box. Small world!

I found two more "rooms" in the Trap (or alleged Trap) that I didn't see last time. I could be wrong but I don't think the layout of this place has changed much in a few hundred years. There were some old logs wedged in between the boulders that looked about as old as the floor beams at Cold Spring Canyon. I wish I got a picture of them but my camera was in my pack and I had to leave it behind to squeeze into the rooms. There was a bit more water in the canyon this weekend compared to last. We had to do a hairy up and over climb to get around a pool that wasn't a problem last week. Over-all not bad though. We took about 3 hours to get through Trap Canyon.
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Dave1Triplogs 1,802
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This was a really fun hike! Not much water in Trap so I didn't have any trouble getting through. Only saw 2 people on the trails all day! Thanks to TeWa for suggesting this to someone else in a forum thread. I probably never would have done this hike otherwise.

(it seams like the AEG should be a little more or maybe I'm just tired)





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