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Tiyo Point Trail, AZ

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Rated  Favorite Wish List AZ > Northwest > North Rim
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Difficulty 2 of 5
Route Finding 2 of 5
Distance One Way 6 miles
Trailhead Elevation 8,281 feet
Avg Time One Way 5 hours
Backpack Possible - Not Popular
Dogs not allowed
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18  2016-08-13
Shiva Temple
friendofThunderg
21  2013-08-31
Tiyo Point-Shiva Saddle North Rim GC
BiFrost
22  2013-08-31
Tiyo Point-Shiva Saddle North Rim GC
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6  2013-08-17
Tiyo and Shiva Point North Rim GC
BiFrost
32  2013-07-07
Shiva Temple
Dave1
Author Hippy
author avatar Guides 7
Routes 3
Photos 1,749
Trips 608 map ( 4,480 miles )
Age 33 Female Gender
Location Grand Canyon
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Preferred   Sep, Jun, Aug, May
Seasons   Late Spring to Late Autumn
Sun  6:12am - 6:33pm
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Not Jupiter Point
by Hippy

Likely In-Season!
Overview: Tiyo Point route is an old undulating double track that weaves through the thick forests of the North Rim. You'll find yourself at a most stunning overlook where dozens of well known Canyon Landmarks can be spotted. The most impressive o these landmarks is undoubtedly the nearby Shiva Temple.


Warning: There is NO water along this route nor along Point Sublime Road. Also the 4 miles from Widforss Trailhead along Point Sublime Road to The Basin it is recommended to have a high clearance vehicle.


History: In March of 1906 a different name was given to the Point we now know as Tiyo. They called it Jupiter Point after The King of The Gods because of its stunning views. In May 1906 the US Geological Survey requested the name be permanently changed to Tiyo Point.

Who is Tiyo?

Tiyo was a young hero of the Hopi Tribe, he yearned to discover where the waters of The Colorado river flowed to. He speculated to his father, the Chief, "It must flow down some great pit, into the underworld, for after all these years the great gorge below never fills up and none of the water ever flows back again".
Then the whole tribe worked to supply young Tiyo with all the supplies to journey to the end of the Mighty River, they outfitted him with a large gouged out cottonwood tree and he went on his way.

Much time passed before Tiyo's cottonwood box-boat finally stopped, he emerged from the gouged out tree and immediately was met by Spider Woman (she is a very important Hopi figure in many stories, it is she who weaves the clouds so rain may come!)

The Hopi legend then goes on to describe how Tiyo is guided by Spider-Woman to various places, where he learned all about the ceremonies that the Hopis now perform at their Snake Dance to produce rain.

He met the Sun and the Great Snake, and Mu-i-yin-wuh (a divinity of the underworld who makes all the germs of life), and each taught him something he needed to learn. Finally, after many wonderful adventures, he was lifted out of the underworld as he sat in a ho-a-pah, a kind of wicker pannier, with two beautiful maidens of the snake kiva, by Spider-Woman, who carried him over the country and deposited him at his home.
He married one of the maidens and thus founded the Snake Clan, and his brother married the other and founded the Snake-Antelope Clan.
These two clans each year perform the ceremonies that produce rain in the desert land, where still live the descendants of Tiyo and his brother, heroes of Hopi legend.




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2016-08-09 Hippy
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Most recent Triplog Reviews
Tiyo Point Trail
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I think I should get a tattoo that says "the North Rim is also hot in the summer" because I seem to always forget...

Nick, Carlos, and I headed up to the North Rim on Friday after work with the goal of bagging Shiva Temple on Saturday and possibly a couple less-traveled North Rim summits on Sunday. After some pretty rough miles on the Tiyo Point road, we reached a dead end: a huge downed tree blocking the road. Much to our surprise, there was another car parked right in front of the tree. We (okay, maybe just me) were a little annoyed that we might be sharing the summit with someone else, but we never ran into the other fellow and the car was gone by the time we returned to camp Saturday night.

We set up camp and went right to bed, planning on a 5am wake-up call the next day. Around 4am, Nick and I woke up to some growling/grunting noises that we first thought might have been Carlos snoring. We quickly determined it was definitely an animal and after our recent canyoneering adventure with a mountain lion, I was not in the right mindset to fall back asleep with a growling animal nearby. I convinced (forced?) Nick to hop in the car with me, and Carlos joined us a few minutes later, making me feel a little less crazy about being nervous. Our sleep for the next hour was obviously pretty compromised, as three adults and a ton of gear in a RAV4 is not the most comfortable sleeping arrangement in the world. Low on sleep, we got a later start than planned, finally leaving camp around 7:15am.

The first 5 or so miles through the forest were pretty quick going. None of us had done extensive research on the route before this trip, so we didn't realize how much of the mileage was through the forest. We were actually kind of relieved that a majority of our hiking would be on the rim and shaded, though it was a little tedious. When we finally got to the rim, we admired the views from Shiva point (Brahma and Isis looked epic, as always), had a snack, and chose our gully to descend. The next few hours were the usual off-trail canyon slog on steep, very loose terrain. A mile or so down, I was out front and heard a rattle and quickly jumped onto a big rock. The guys thought it was a cicada until it rattled - very clearly and loudly - again. Nick and Carlos both got some awesome photos of the pink canyon rattlesnake (the first I've ever seen) under a rock.

The ascent up Shiva was probably the low-point for all of us, with the beating sun and 90-95 degree temps wearing on us. We made slow progress on this part, probably not selecting the best route a few times and meandering along very loose terrain. Once we got to the base of the Coconino for the traverse west, we were at least in the shade and all started feeling (marginally) better. Scrambling through the Coconino and Kaibab was, by far, the most fun part of the hike - but I was bummed at how little of this there was, compared to the frustrating traverses and steep scree hiking.

We topped out on the summit early afternoon (I wasn't wearing a watch and can't really remember the time), took photos next to the water jugs and signed the log book, and enjoyed a long break on the edge of the summit, overlooking beautiful Isis and tons of other summits. Realizing it was going to be a much longer day than we expected, we tried to pick up our pace on the way back and the Canyon gods blessed us with overcast skies for the rest of the day. As I feared, those overcast skies also meant an impending storm. As we made our way back down Shiva, across the saddle, and up to the rim, we watched the sky in front of us (over the North Rim) get darker and darker and periodically flash with lighting. I was in the lead, again, and hustling as fast as I could. Then, low and behold, I heard another rattle!! I looked down and saw another huge pink canyon rattler slithering away a foot or so from my feet. This one shook me up way more than the first, and I spent the rest of the ascent clumsily tripping and whacking my head with branches. By the time we reached Shiva point, the thunderstorm had subsided and we were all relieved to be back on solid, flat ground. The last couple miles of the hike dragged, as they usually do, but we made good time (an hour and a half faster on our return than our way out).

Back at camp, we enjoyed a delicious dinner and beer. After the bushwhacking, heat, and rattlesnakes, none of us were super motivated to investigate some of the other summits we had on our radar, so we decided to enjoy a pleasant morning at camp on Sunday and checked out the North Rim lodge on our way out. Of course, while standing at one of the overlooks at the lodge, we identified at least two more summits to add to our list. I'm pretty excited to be living 4 hours closer to the North Rim this Canyon season. There is so much to explore up there and I feel like I've barely scratched the surface!

Shiva Temple was my 19th Grand Canyon Summit.
Tiyo Point Trail
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Spending over a half hour staring across the Grand Canyon from Shoshone Point last weekend really had me pining for something in the Canyon all last week. I had my heart set on a summit, but with the warmer temps, my options were limited. I thought about the long, hard to pronounce H word one from South Bass, I thought about a Coronado repeat, or maybe even a sinking ship, however, nothing really piqued my interests. Then after reading a couple triplogs from the North Rim, the idea of Shiva popped into my head. The summit to Shiva had already been blazed by the usual suspects, so I sent out a PM to @Dave1 and @sbkelley to gather some beta. I decided it was the summit for me and made the short drive up Friday night, for what would be my first trip to the North Rim by vehicle.

The morning went pretty smooth, as the few miles I hiked of Tiyo were pleasant and other than the fact that apparently I am incapable of walking a straight line, I was at what I would call the jumping off point (actually jumping off from here not recommended) for Shiva, after only a couple hours of hiking. The first part was a little slow going, as I made the traverse along the ridgeline via a series of brushy cattle trails to the point where you make the steep descent to Shiva's Saddle. I never thought I would be writing about cattle trails and a G.C. summit in the same breath!

From the saddle, I identified and then made the steep, loose climb up Shiva's predominant northwest ridge to the first traverse and class four climb. I could not find the climb at first and probably spent 15 minutes walking back and forth wondering how I could have missed it and where it was. Turns out, I simply did not backtrack far enough and am embarrassed to say I just simply missed the pretty well-cairned route. After finding the climb, I was back in my element and shot right up it, with only a few instance of losing the route and a couple of backtracks. After the climb and a little ridgeline hiking, it was on to the steep traverse and the final steep ascent up through a series of shelves in the kaibab. This is a nasty little traverse by the way and its compounded by deadfall, loose rock, loose soil and a steep slope. However, it does mark the final obstacle and after only a short time, I was finally staring at Shiva's jugs. I signed the register and then made a beeline to the south to check out some of the views, as suggested by @sbkelley. Great views to the south, great views to the north and overall a cool little area up there, as Shiva's summit has the feel of a forested island in the middle of the desert.

From the summit, it was the same route back. There were a few instances where I had to double check the G.P.S to locate some of the down-climbs, but overall it went pretty smooth and I was naturally a little more efficient in my route selection. Once I hit the rim, I really took my time and just enjoyed the pleasant stroll through the pines back to the TH.

Final Notes

Although not the hardest summit in the canyon, this one was no gimmie. The route is rugged and it's the most "bushwhacking" I have done in my short canyon career. Likewise, the route really beat me up, as I came away dirty, scratched, thirsty and a little bruised. Speaking of thirsty, I consumed 5.5 liters of water, 28 ounces of Gatorade and a 12 oz Kickstart energy drink on this hike/climb! If doing this hike in the warmer months, caching water along the way is a must. I cached my water on Shiva's saddle, in order to insure I had something for the final climb up to the north rim. In regards to the North Rim, it was a great first trip for me. I loved the scenery, lack of people and smaller ranger presence. Probably not in terms of trails, but in terms of everything else, the North Rim may be the best the canyon has to offer in my opinion. I found the drive almost equally as impressive and stopped several times to take pictures along the section to Lee's Ferry. Another amazing summit in the canyon and a big thanks to @Dave1 and @sbkelley for helping make it happen.
Tiyo Point Trail
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tiyo point route/trail is an old doubletrack tht has now been overgrown quite a bit
its 6 miles from The Basin(the big meadow on pt sublime rd) to the actual Point known as Tiyo.

3 miles south along the route you'll find a sign, this is the Shiva access route

lots of wild turkeys and wildflowers {lupine, paintbrush, white lupine!, asters, cliff rose further south), aspen, oak, oh and our very favorite....New Mexican Locust aka Robinia! Sharp, pointing, thorny brushy things!!

Wear Pants. :lol:

jamie and i were dropped off at The Basin, we headed out to Tiyo and i'd forgotten to put my phone onairplane mode while hiking this time so when we reached the point my 4G lit up my phone with a text from the friends who dropped us off at The Basin, they'd planned on camping there since i'd gotten them hooked up with a epermit....but the text revealed they'd left for the south rim...meeehhhrrrr

so jamie and i headed back to The Basin and walked the 6 miles home from there...and once we got up the bridal path from north kaibab trailhed area we were rewarded with a gorgeous nightime view of the Fuller Fire in full swing! wow!!


Directions
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To hike
Hwy 67 to Point Sublime Road
Follow Point Sublime Road past Widforss Trailhead for 4 miles
After 4 miles you will reach The Basin
Heading West through The Basin along Point Sublime Road you'll spot an overgrown double track "road" this is Tiyo Point route.
NO Vehicles are allowed on this track! Park just off the road, do not park on or in the meadow! There are designated parking spots.
Your hike begins at the "No Vehicles" signpost that marks Tiyo Point Route.
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