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Old Logging Road #6411, NM

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Difficulty 2.5 of 5
Route Finding 1 of 5
Distance One Way 4 miles
Trailhead Elevation 9,418 feet
Elevation Gain -10 feet
Accumulated Gain 480 feet
Avg Time One Way 2 hours
Kokopelli Seeds 5.6
Backpack Yes & Possibly Connect
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18  2012-06-20
Brown Canyon
15  2012-06-11
Old Sunspot Hiway #5009
Author imike
author avatar Guides 253
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Photos 6,930
Trips 2,467 map ( 21,513 miles )
Age 71 Male Gender
Location Cloudcroft, NM
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Preferred   Jun, Jul, Aug, Sep → Any
Seasons   Early Spring to Late Autumn
Sun  5:15am - 7:03pm
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High and Away...
by imike

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As you drive along Forest Road 64, you will notice a number of old timber roads coming in from your left. These have been closed to vehicle traffic and blocked off with metal swing arm gates. The first three are .3 miles in from Sunspot Hiway, designated 64OB... the next barricade lies nearly a mile further along FR64, and I'm giving it the designation of 6409, the number of the old logging road designation. About one tenth of a mile further along the metal barricade on your left is your access point for 6411, another barricaded old logging road.

You are around 9400' elevation at the point of beginning. This trail effectively ends with it's intersection with T113, Willy White Trail, about 4.5 miles later. At that point you'll be around 9400'... so the trail is very much a ridge wandering hike. It gently drifts up and down as it works its way around the ridge lines, hitting 9578' at one higher point.

Oddly enough, this non-official trail is in better condition than most of the official forest trails in this area. The deadfalls are probably cut out of the way by the occasional illegal ATV use...?

Two thirds of the way across the ridge route, you will encounter a side rode coming in from the left: with official road markers: 6411... This appears to be a down canyon cut that probably drops over to connect with 6409 ... though I have yet to hike the section to confirm the route... the map shows it deadending above 6409, but I imagine an off trail traverse could be made?

Deer, Elk, Turkey are the common encounters on this high elevation hike. Water lies below in the lower meadows.

Be aware of seasonal fire hazards and plan your routes with an awareness of the available escape alternatives available.

This would be an excellent mountain bike trek route.

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Gate Policy: If a gate is closed upon arrival, leave it closed after you go through. If it is open, leave it open. Leaving a closed gate open may put cattle in danger. Closing an open gate may cut them off from water. Please be respectful, leave gates as found.

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2012-06-10 imike

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    Map Drive
    FR / Dirt Road / Gravel - Car Okay

    To hike
    From Cloudcroft, follow hiway 130, 1.8 miles out to the Sunspot Hiway (6563), following that road past milepost 13,and turning left on to Forest Road 64. Follow this gravel road 1.5 miles, looking for the old roads on your left, blocked now by metal bar barriers. There are no numbers after the 640B gates, so note that it is the second barrier beyond that section.
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