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Difficulty 3 of 5
Route Finding 2 of 5
Distance Round Trip 9.73 miles
Trailhead Elevation 3,955 feet
Elevation Gain 1,605 feet
Accumulated Gain 2,473 feet
Avg Time Round Trip 6 hours
Kokopelli Seeds 22.1
Interest Ruins, Historic & Seasonal Creek
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Lime Creek Canyon West Rim Wander
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Lime Creek Cabin and beyond
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Author AZWanderingBear
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Overview
The trail is rocky and uphill both ways, but the payoff is a well preserved cabin and a nice hike along Lime Creek.

Warning
There is no cell phone service and the only way back home is up that rocky trail you came down. Just so you know.

Hike
Once you turn off Seven Springs Road, FR254 and then FR1094 are privately maintained. When I did this hike both were in very good condition. However, some rain can turn the drive to the trailhead into a muddy mess. There are several wash crossings and I wouldn't enter any of them if they were flooded. Having said all that, a vehicle with reasonable clearance and 2WD can make the trailhead most of the time with no problems.

As you depart the trailhead, the path follows along a wash for a short ways and then begins a fairly easy climb up to a saddle. The saddle is home to a gate through a drift fence and also the highest point of your hike. It is 1.3 hiking miles from the trailhead and you'll be praying you get back to it on the hike out.

From the saddle you begin a 2.7 mile descent into Lime Creek. The trail is largely comprised of loose rocks that vary from baseball size to football size. The footing just isn't going to be good until you get to the creek. Watch your step. Views are decent on the way down with Humbolt and it's desert snowball off to your right, Sunset Mountain straight ahead and Four Peaks and Mount Ord off in the distance.

About 2.6 miles in you will pass some ruins on the right side of the trail. Just look for a very low rock wall. There are many other ruins scattered about in this area. At one time it must have been a thriving Hohokam community.

At approximately 3 miles the trail crosses the first of two very rocky washes. Just make sure to look for the trail exiting out of the wash straight across. While you could probably hike down the wash, it definitely wouldn't be advisable.

About 3.7 miles in you will see a very weathered trail sign attempting to point to the old smelter downstream from the cabin and also to the Verde River. Stay left to head to the cabin.

Once you drop into Lime Creek, at about the 4.2 mile point, look for the horse trail. It crosses the creek to the north side about 150 feet from where you drop in. There are faded marker ribbons where the trail crosses the creek, but the horsemen who use this trail also put shiny aluminum cans up in the trees about head high, that is head high if you are on a tall horse, so look up. If you lose the trail just bushwhack upstream. The cabin is about .8 miles up that way on the left. You won't miss it.

Not too sure about the origins of the cabin. Definitely looks like a line shack from a ranch that operated in the area. The cabin, storage shed, and corrals are being maintained by a riding club that uses them occasionally. The cabin has some supplies inside. A fire ring with a grill, some old bed steads, and a table with some cook pots are nearby outside. The storage shed has Cartwright Bros. and 1882 painted on the front. Not sure Hoss and Little Joe were ever here and pretty certain tin-sided sheds weren't around in '82. But this area did have small ranches and mining concerns around that time frame. All-in-all it is just a cool place. Enjoy it before you begin the long slog back up the rocky trail.

Water Sources
Lime Spring is located just east of the cabin and is a fairly reliable water source.

Camping
Camping at the cabin would be pretty easy given the resources that are already there. But toting a backpack up to the trailhead would not be for the faint of heart (or perhaps lungs).

Check out the Official Route and Triplogs.

Gate Policy: If a gate is closed upon arrival, leave it closed after you go through. If it is open, leave it open. Leaving a closed gate open may put cattle in danger. Closing an open gate may cut them off from water. Please be respectful, leave gates as found.

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2015-01-26 AZWanderingBear
    WARNING! Hiking and outdoor related sports can be dangerous. Be responsible and prepare for the trip. Study the area you are entering and plan accordingly. Dress for the current and unexpected weather changes. Take plenty of water. Never go alone. Make an itinerary with your plan(s), route(s), destination(s) and expected return time. Give your itinerary to trusted family and/or friends.

    Most recent of 11 deeper Triplog Reviews
    Lime Creek Cabin - Tonto NF
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    Great weekend backpacker. This trip was not without adventure, partially due to lack of planning on our part...Left the house about 9 a.m. for the drive up through Carefree and on to just about Seven Springs. I usually print out the trail description for bigger hikes, but neglected to since I thought I already knew the way, and the Droog had already been here a few years ago. Well, I did the Google map from Rout Scout and it sent me all the way up Forest Road 542 without taking the turnoff shortly after FR24, 542 quickly turned into a nasty, rocky road that seemed to just get worse the further we got up it. Four wheel drive a must in a few spots for sure. After trekking for about 45 minutes or so, we ended up at a locked gate for what we assumed to be the Rover Mine complex. :-k Turned back around trying to figure out a contingency plan, tried the turn to the east just before getting back to FR 24 and low and behold there was a really nice dirt road that took us right to Walnut Spring and the TH. We made our way up and over the highpoint and then stopped for lunch since we were officially a few hours behind at this point, and then worked out way down. Word to the wise, pants are a necessity for this trail, I wore shorts on the way in and will have some marks for a few weeks. Catclaw, prickly pear, mesquite, and hackberry all await you in your travel. We lost the track a bit once we got down to the creek bed, but made our way around to the cabin to set up shop. Really cool area, great spring to drink from, and enough amenities to make you almost feel like you are car camping on a backpack trip. Last entry in the logbook was from April of 2016. Set up camp and collected some wood, then set to relaxing. Had some new gear for this trip, I picked up an REI Quarter Dome on sale this winter (worked like a champ after some initial confusion while setting up), a 15 degree mummy bag I had gotten with my dividend in the spring but have not needed to use, and my Xmas gift of the 'Deuce of Spades' 0.6 oz aluminum alloy cathole trowel (worked like a champ ;)). It was hard keeping the fire going since all the available wood was still pretty wet, we gave up on it about 8 and headed off to sleep. Even left a few brews for the next lucky visitor since we turned in early. I think I was out by 8:30, earliest I have gone to sleep in a while. Had a leisurely morning at camp and got on the trail about 10 for the return trip. The trek up the hill is a grinder with a big pack, but we made it eventually no worse the wear. Great trip for the cooler weather! Almost forgot to mention, we saw a pair of Coati on the way out while hiking the creek. A first for both of us to see!
    Lime Creek Cabin - Tonto NF
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    Lime Creek Cabin and beyond
    A couple weeks Bruce and the boys posted pictures of some very impressive petroglyphs near Lime Creek cabin. He also told me he heard second hand there were some ruins nearby. I've been interested in knowing more about habitation sites between Perry Mesa and the Verde River and so this caught my attention.

    Then just by coincidence I noticed (on a satellite picture) a hilltop ruin not too far from LCC. This was getting interesting. But it would be a long day for me.

    I got an early start and enjoyed the long downhill walk to Lime Creek. The trail gets a little messy in the bottom but I was soon at the cabin. I found the petroglyphs and it really is the largest collection I've seen in one spot. Too bad there is some deterioration and 100+ years of grafitti. There must have been plenty of people living around here ca. 800yrs ago.

    From there I followed my nose and ran across a lookout and a small habitation site nearby.

    Next I set my sights on getting to that hilltop. From a distance it's an impressive looking place: a high flat butte that sits by itself. It's surprising to me that people would want to hang around that far above the water.

    I went up a ridge that turned into a nice flat field. It was littered with pottery and quartz and I noticed a couple small ruins. There was another step up before the top, but there were a lot of boulders there and I didn't notice habitation signs. Finally on top: a pretty special place because of it's 360° views. The top was full of pottery pieces and quartz but the ruins were less impressive than I'd hoped. A cliff band showed some faint petroglyhs but I didn't explore it carefully.

    Now to make it home. I came down a parallel ridge - didn't see any more interesting Indian stuff but I did encounter a gila monster. Made it back to the cabin a little ahead of schedule before the long trudge out...needed a flashlight for the last 10 min.

    Missed Happy Hour :cry: ...won't be doing any more long trips for a while.
    Lime Creek Cabin - Tonto NF
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    There was a Ford parked at the trailhead. Not a truck, it was one of those things that’s not a car but not quite a truck. I parked the Jeep alongside, changed into my boots, and shouldered the day pack. Figured someone was ahead of me on the trail to the cabin. But since there was no HAZ sticker on the Ford, it couldn’t be anyone special.

    Headed down the trail; well, up actually. Never been here before but saw the photos of the cabin and thought I’d like to see it for real. Might be a decent backpack someday, so why not scout it on a beautiful day like this.

    Can’t say much positive about the trail. It pretty much ain’t ever level and seems comprised of those medium sized rocks that exist only to turn your ankle one way until you step on the next one which of course twists it the other way. Going down is a pain and only exceeded by the suck of going up. But it was still a dang pretty day to be somewhere hiking to somewhere else.

    Noticed a ruin right beside the trail and stopped off to explore. It’s not particularly impressive, but any ruin will get attention from me. Found just a few pottery shards, but lots of evidence of rocks being napped into tools. Just so happens I am taking a course which requires me to make a primitive knife, so I rounded up some rocks that looked like they might flake and another one to use as a hammer and took a seat on a couple of larger rocks that sort of served as a natural stool and work bench. I pecked away and soon had a few reasonable flakes that would serve as a blade or scraper at least. Had to smile thinking that perhaps a 1,000 years or so ago some Hohokam may have sat on that same stone stool and, with far more skill than me, napped his new knife or perhaps some arrow points or maybe a scraper for the cute Hohokam girl down the hill.

    Just as I was shouldering my pack again, I heard a rustle just up trail. I keep telling my friends that if you never get out you’ll never have the chance to be surprised by anything. The rustle was a young beautiful blonde in head-to-toe camo with a huge pack. Seems she had been uphill “glassing” for her bow-hunting hubby who was just a ways below us. I immediately apologized if I had interfered with their hunt. She said I hadn’t and they were done for the morning anyway, just rendezvousing for lunch since the deer would be going to ground about now. She was all smiles and enthusiasm explaining they get out every day they can but haven’t gotten anything yet this season. Spent a minute explaining that I was headed for the cabin down on the creek, but she didn’t know there was one. I pushed on off and she headed down the ridge away from the trail. Never saw hubby. He may or may not be a good hunter, but he sure made a heck of a catch with her. You just cain’t top personality and camo all wrapped up in a nice package.

    Finally made the creek. It was wet for a ways towards the cabin. Found and lost the horse trail more than once. Finally figured out they use shiny beer and soda cans about head high (head high if you are on a horse) as trail markers. That knowledge helped.

    Enjoyed poking around the cabin and shed. Had a snack sitting in one of the camp chairs so conveniently left in the cabin. The spring was running nicely. Quiet back here. I could like this place.

    The hike out was long, rocky, mostly up hill. I’d seen a little bag of tent stakes trailside and marked the location. If you lost them, I’ve got ‘em. Let me know. The Ford as still at the trailhead. Guess Mr. and Mrs. Hunter were staying for the evening show. I left a note apologizing again if I’d hampered their hunt and wishing them luck.

    If you don’t get out there, you’ll never be surprised.
    Lime Creek Cabin - Tonto NF
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    Since I like to go to old cabins the moment I found this one here on HAZ it was a must. Being a trip leader in one of the meetup backpack groups I put it on the calender. Our first attempt was aborted due to the quagmire that FR 254 that leads to the upper TH had become. Since I got 6 people to sign up for the return attempt, I wouldn't chance another setback and opted to start from Horseshoe Dam.

    Since I couldn't find any info on the lower access I figured this as an exploratory trip. On the map there's a FR that leads a ways up Lime Creek. Not knowing the condition of this road we parked near the Ocotillo boat ramp launch and hiked the road. It's a pretty sandy road and it had a bunch of quad tracks on it, if you drove your vehicle down it then you might want to deflate your tires a little. Driving the road will shave off 1-1.5 miles each way.

    Great views on the road walk. What was really neat to me was hiking in the dry Horseshoe Reservoir. When one looks up you can see the high water mark which is well above you. The watershed with no water eventually takes you into the Lime Creek narrows. From there I made the mistake of leading the trip up the creek for most of the way to the cabin. Progress was slow as we rock hoped, crossed the flowing creek countless times and fought vegetation. Occasionally we hit segments of trail but ended up back in the creek. I figure it was 6 miles to the cabin, if it was it took us 6 hours to get there. We had a couple of 1 hour segments were we probably only made 1/4-1/2 mile.

    The cabin is one of the better preserved ones and maybe my favorite? I wouldn't want to visit it in the summer but it makes one heck of a winter backpack. Since it felt like my crew was going to throw a mutiny I changed tactics for the hike out. We had seen faded trail tape here and there on the hike in so I decided to try and follow it. To our surprise there is a trail (very, very faint) most of the way. It was hard to follow and I consider myself pretty good at trail finding.

    Here are some helpful tips if you decide to go this route;
    1. Very little of the trail stays in the creek.
    2. Most of the trail tape was at creek crossings in which there weren't many.
    3. The trail stays mostly on the west side of the creek.
    4. There's a stretch of about 2 miles (miles 3ish-5ish) where you'll be above and away from the creek and the trail is very faint but there are many low laying cairns.
    5. You'll pass the smelter and come to a crude trail sign at the JCT with the trail that leads to the upper TH and cabin. This will be along the 2 mile stretch mentioned in 4.
    6. It took us 4 hours with about an hour of breaks following the old trail to get back.
    7. This entire area was spared from the Cave Creek Complex fire!!!
    Lime Creek Cabin - Tonto NF
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    Chumley and Bruce worked out all the details on this hike. I was just along for the ride. I didn't do any research and didn't have high expectations. This hike turned out to a lot of fun and we saw one of the best set of petroglyphs I've ever seen!

    The four of us got together on Saturday morning and drove up to the trailhead. The hike starts out on an old road and quickly turns to a single track. The first mile is fairly easy with some elevation gain. We reached a saddle and then made the descent into Lime Creek. The view from the saddle is fantastic! We headed down to Lime Creek and then hiked up the cabin. From there a few of us continued up creek and went searching for Professor Creek. This was a fun section that was a bit overgrown at times.

    We eventually returned to the cabin and arrived right as two hunters rode in on horseback with a large pack of dogs. They were hunting lion and asked if we saw the petroglyphs. We said no and they led us to them. I was blown away by what I saw. There were several panels covered in glyphs. They are all over. There is also a fair amount of modern graffiti. After we got our fill we said our goodbyes and made the hike out.

    These glyphs are just awesome and I'm glad we ran into the hunters. This turned out to be a very memorable trip! Thanks Chumley for driving.
    Lime Creek Cabin - Tonto NF
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    Lime Creek - Professor Creek
    A trip out to Lime Creek to visit some new areas. We had all sorts of options drawn up, to please a wide group of hikers. The Cabin for those that had not been there, numerous piles of rocks were waypointed (Thanks Oregonhiker), riparian areas, new canyons to explore, and peaks to bag.

    On the way to the cabin we hit 3 Piles of Rocks, two of which I'd walked right past the first time to Lime Creek. There was a bit-o-color hanging on in spots in Lime Creek, but 2 weeks past prime for sure.

    We dropped Kyle an Lilly off at the cabin to relax and went to Professor Canyon to do some 'splorin'. Some very sweet looking areas here, but we only went as far as the lush riparian area of Professor Spring. I'd like to take this to the top on a future trip.

    On the way back to the Cabin to pick up Kyle and Lilly, the others started barking to get Lilly excited. We were shocked when around the corner came a dog that wasn't Lilly. It was one of about 8 dogs that two Lion Hunters were running. The dogs were all equipped with GPS collars and "reminder" collars (Which I got to see in action).

    Lime Spring area and Cabin :next: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChNj29SzTqc

    We stopped back at the Cabin and had a nice conversation with these two Cowboys.

    After this it was the Slog back up the hill to the truck.

    We took the short drive up to Humboldt to check out the scenery. Well worth the drive if you are in the area. Thanks for driving Chums... a fun day

    Views atop Humboldt :next: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZuYb3Oor50

    Foliage
    Still hanging on in spots, but probably 2 weeks past prime.
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    Professor Lime
    Failed on the attempt to find some fall color. It's too late here. This canyon must have been a small city back in the day. Lots of ruins and other signs of human activity.

    The cabin is cool. Professor Canyon was a neat surprise. We encountered a couple of lion hunters and their hounds. Such awesome dogs!

    Great day. I even managed to keep the Eagle under 20 miles, despite his desire to continue on.

    Took a side trip to Humboldt for some great views, and on the way home the clouds and setting sun put on a show that made the sky over Glendale Glitter.

    Foliage
    Some color hanging on in the creek. Probably two weeks past peak. Sycamores have some deep rust and the cottonwoods are mostly bare with just a little yellow hanging on.
    Lime Creek Cabin - Tonto NF
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    What a hike. Not for the weak of heart for sure. I almost destroyed my hiking partner. It was very slow going most of the way out. I expected to be home by 2pm but taht did not happen. I would do this again and try and see some more stuff but maybe not until cool weather hits again. The road in would need a 4x4 if it was wet in any way but I think my truck would make it if it has been dry for a week or more. The cabin is very well maintained with some pretty awesome water setup. This may be a multi-day backpacker in the future. Wasn't able to really identify the "ruins" on the trail...once you seen a rubble pile of rocks they all look like rubble piles. There was no real defined ruins like sears kay.
    Lime Creek Cabin - Tonto NF
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    Cave Creek-Indian Canyon-Lime Creek Loop
    I've been planning this hike for over a year. Attempting to get the proper permissions to be able to hike through the Red Rover Mine area. They actually have a web site, and there is a section where you can request permission via Email. I tried that route, sent numerous Emails over the last year and never received a response. This mine is also in the Website, Arizona Ghost Towns. I put two and two together and decide the place is closed up and it's time to do my loop hike.

    The road to the Trailhead appeared to be pretty smooth at one time, but some Yahoos drove this road in the recent rains and have it rutted up pretty good in spots.

    So we park the truck and made the 1 mile road walk up to the gate of the Red Rover mine. Based on the no less than 10 "No Trespassing" "Shoot to Kill and then Shoot you again" and other signs, we decide that It's not so deserted. The final straw was the Video Camera that was on the gate. Luckily I'd had a plan B that took us around the private property.

    After stopping at some minor ruins, we made our way down to the riparian area of the Cave Creek. Cave Creek was trickling nicely for quite away. There were numerous lush areas along this stretch. We followed the water and sometimes choked out creek bed, until we reached a tributary coming from the west at around 34.009604 -111.863867 (.4 mile south of the Yavapai - Maricopa border). The Water was actually coming from this trib. and not Cave Creek. There were actually small fish in the stream here. There also is a well defined man made trail that comes down to the creek here. You can follow it on Satellite view, 1 mile out to FR24.

    From here you are done with water in Cave Creek and it's much easier traveling. We now make the turn to the east towards Lime Creek down what we are calling Indian Spring Canyon. This was the portion I was most concerned with. You drop from 4300' to 2500' in 3 miles, just about as far away from the start as can be, not knowing if there are going to be any drops in the canyon that we could not get down. We lucked out with 3 or so 20' drops and 1 30' drop that we were able to negotiate. This was a blast to go down and one of the highlights of the day.

    Now in Lime Creek it's time to locate the Cabin. Quite the set up. Chairs, bedding, food, pots and pans, plastic piping that comes from the spring feeds all the troughs and buckets. Wish we had more time to explore, but we wanted to get on the hill before dark. It is a tad tricky to find where you start going up the hill, if you did not come down it.

    The moon was the size of a basketball rising above the peaks and all that was left was the 2.5 mile, 2900' slog up the hill and 1.5 miles downhill to the Truck.

    A fun loop, got to see some new areas. Even though Joey was whining for a good portion of this one, I think even he enjoyed himself. I really need to start writing down and compiling the Bartel Dictonary.

    Video :next: https://www.youtube.com/embed/8qnyjKBryd4
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    Cave Creek / Indian Canyon / Lime Creek Loop
    For what seemed like hours on the drive in all I heard was Bruce singing "put the lime in the coconut... blah blah blah". He's been pushing this loop for eternity, even in 100+ temps. So I just let him live through his happy moment, tuned him out and day dreamed about Squaw.

    Our loop began heading through Red Rover mine. Bruce put in a serious effort to get permission to pass through. His requests never received response. The mine was very active, signage was abundant and a video camera greets you at the gate. No worries, we are hikers and this land exception is surrounded by legal national forest.

    Juans Canyon - Detour
    We stumbled upon the returned-to-earth road FS254 that heads down Juans Canyon. It was easy to travel heading downhill with a 20 mph tailwind. We picked the ridge up to the west separating Ramps Canyon. After checking out a multi roomed set of ruins we headed down to Cave Creek.

    Cave Creek
    It was immediately obvious CC is an idyllic setting. It was also apparent it was going to be time consuming skirting the narrow creek dodging the vegetation. Luckily each time the "this is crap" temper would flair a nice area or easier route would surface. At one point we picked up the nicest trail tunneling through a dense section. I'm guessing a locals route? Bruce satellite tracked it up to FS24, east of Magazine Quarry.

    Just after we crossed a tributary ( Locust & "The Rincon" ) that was supplying most of the water for CC. Based on topo a "green" area stops just 140 yards up the tributary. The green area also stops about 200 yards further up CC. No springs are depicted so I guess they consider it a creek resurfacing?

    It was easier to travel from this point on up CC. Without water we just followed the creek bed.

    Grapevine to FR2019
    This was the warmest part of the day. I was about ready to pass out as 1pm passed without lunch or much of a break. Luckily it was among the easiest terrain of the day. Bruce said it was an old road. Which we made out for a while and is shown on topo to Grapevine Tank. From the tank to FR2019 I was in The World According to Coan.

    Indian Spring Canyon
    One look down to Lime Creek and the surrounding terrain almost got my motor running again. At 1:45pm we finally got a twenty minute lunch break which made a world of difference. Probably just in time too as this was turning into canyoneering.

    The peanut gallery will not call it such because we didn't use technical gear to make it easyneering. I'm just pushing buttons. It's nothing difficult. Bruce did go down one slippery edged area I had already filed under "forget it". If you don't like something you can bypass on one side or the other.

    Near the bottom everything turns white which I'm guessing is Limestone.

    Lime Creek Cabin to Finish
    The cabin was cool and Bruce loves these things. The real show is the surrounding scenery. Spotted a ribbon marker in a tree which lead us on trail. Save one creek crossing at the bottom the trail out was ironically worse the further you got to civilization. Nothing horrible, just rocky in the upper slopes and cats claw on the upper flats.

    Note
    This loop is tougher than the numbers suggest. While nothing strenuous along the way the side jumping and mini scrambles add up. A strong hiker could do this much quicker too.

    Synopsis
    Clockwise worked well. The loop is repetitive episodes of glory patched through infractions of desire. If you have the chance, desire and ability I highly recommend. Mid November or March is probably prime. Our hike was 11 hours, 8:08am to 7:09pm. Temps never got below 41 degrees and topped out at 75. Record low cow patty count... one or two. Bruce planned another winner.

    Foliage
    toast for the most part, there were a few hold outs on their last leg of glory

    Permit $$
    None


    Directions
    Map Drive
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    Road
    FR / Jeep Road - Car possible when dry

    To hike
    From Carefree go Northeast on Cave Creek Road, also called Seven Springs Road. The turn off to the right onto FR254 is well marked and is 16.3 miles from the intersection of Tom Darlington Road (the extension of Scottsdale Road in Carefree) and Cave Creek Road. Follow FR254 for .3 miles and take the right fork onto FR1094. The trailhead is 2.25 miles ahead on the right.
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