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Hill 3464 - Superior, AZ

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Distance Lasso-Loop 6.78 miles
Trailhead Elevation 2,635 feet
Elevation Gain 829 feet
Accumulated Gain 1,457 feet
Avg Time One Way 4.5
Kokopelli Seeds 11.64
Interest Off Trail Hiking, Ruins & Seasonal Creek
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63  2014-03-13 kingsnake
Author kingsnake
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Another brick in the wall
by kingsnake

Overview: This hike offers great views and ancient walls, with easy elevation gain and no threat of blood loss.

Hike: After parking east of the shooting range, walk west on FR 4 / Telegraph Rd. At .5 miles, you will cross a creek that flowing south to north, towards Arnett Canyon, that is likely flowing even in dry weather. Flow is light, so it is easy to dry cross. Honestly, the up & downs along FR 4 for the first mile or so are the hardest part of the hike. You will see a large, stand-alone hill, that is almost white, with sheer walls of 50-150 feet. That is Hill 3012.

At 1.8 miles, after rounding Hill 3012, turn southwest across a wash, and up towards the saddle which frames Hill 3595. Upon reaching the top of the ridge, traverse southwest, downslope, towards a wash which empties west into Telegraph Canyon. Upon reaching Telegraph Canyon wash, turn south.

At 2.6 miles, get on a goat trail which cuts across a bend in Telegraph Canyon wash. Follow the barbwire fence, passing through the iron pole gate to Rock Tank. I'd be shocked if it was not full, as it has had plenty of water the times I have been out there. Follow the south shore of the tank, passing through the barbwire fence a second time at the tank's east end.

At 3.2 miles, cross to the north side of Rock Tank's feeder creek, proceeding southeast on a very obvious foot trail along the exposed rock. The foot trail soon turns northeast toward Filaria Spring, whose vicinity you will reach at 3.6 miles. (I did not lay eyes on it.) Still on the foot trail, climb the final 150 ft. to the saddle. The foot trail continues east to the trailhead for the Wood Canyon Rim hike. (That loop routes south up a 300 ft. slope towards Hill 3419.)

At 3.7 miles, turn north up a matching 300 ft. slope. As everywhere else on this hike, and on the hills and slopes surround Picketpost Mountain, brush is not a factor: Here, mostly grass, some prickly pear and hedgehog, forests of ocotillo, and very few cat claw. As easy as cross-country travel gets in Arizona. Turn west at the top of the mesa.

At 4.2 miles you will reach the Hill 3464 high point. Greats views of Telegraph Canyon. Follow the mesa rim north, towards Picketpost Mountain, then northeast.

At 5.2 miles you will reach the first wall. It is 300 feet long, and up to five feet tall. Of the three wall segments we found, it is by far the largest. We did not find any ruins, pottery, or other signs of ancient life, but that does not mean you won't. It certainly seems like the walls are ancient, because I can't image a rancher going to the effort of doing something like that when a barbwire fence is so much less labor intensive to build. Plus, like SpiderLegs pointed out, the wall has slots that provide cover and great fields of fire. A few hundred yards on, you will run into wall segment two and three.

At 5.4 miles, just past wall segment three, clamber over two six foot boulders, to begin your descent to FR 4 / Telegraph Canyon Rd. It is steep, but again basically grab & stab free. You will hit the road at 5.6 miles, then turn east, returning to the trailhead.

At 6.8 miles it is Guinness Time!

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Gate Policy: If a gate is closed upon arrival, leave it closed after you go through. If it is open, leave it open. Leaving a closed gate open may put cattle in danger. Closing an open gate may cut them off from water. Please be respectful, leave gates as found.

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2014-03-16 kingsnake

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    Hill 3464 - Superior
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    Started the morning by crawling down I-10 due to a semi that had jackknifed across three lanes. Spent 15 minutes between 91st & 83rd Avenues hoping that it was not an omen for the rest of the day. Got through the mess using my best Formula One moves and prayed that all of the cops in the area were back at the accident scene so I would not get a speeding ticket. Have to recommend the downtown branch of the Phoenix library for a great meet up location for folks from the north intersecting with us folks from the west valley. Second time this week I have met people there.

    Once on the road with Kingsnake it was an uneventful trip out to Superior. Hit the trail and headed down a jeep road until we turned off for some minor bushwacking. All in all rather uneventful until we got to Hill 3464. Was excited to check out the wall before the hike and was not disappointed when we found it. Rather impressive display and built with defending the top of the hill in mind. Looked around fruitlessly for other artifacts or signs of civilization but did not see anything. My guess is that any settlements would have been further down the hill closer to water sources. The top of the hill provides a clear line of site for three different approaches to the area, so easy to set up a line of defense.

    All in all a pleasant way to spend a morning. Looking forward to going back to the area and exploring some more.
    Hill 3464 - Superior
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    I was looking around Superior, using Route Manager's FS Topo and satellite view for something interesting to do, when I noticed a very obvious, very straight line on the satellite. I zoomed in, and it sure looked like a wall. So, I whipped together a route and posted it as an event to see if I could snare any victims ... I mean partners. SpiderLegs fell for it ... I mean responded. :whistle:

    SpiderLegs got held up on I-10 due to a rollover. He called at 0600, saying he had moved a mile in the last 15 minutes. I told him I was surprised as the daily rollover usually did not occur until 0700. :roll: Eventually, SpiderLegs got to our meetup at the Burton Barr Library, and we headed out to Superior. As we approached the town about 0730, I asked if anyone minded skipping breakfast. (I had forgotten, and scarfed a burrito on the way to the meetup. 8-[ ) No one objected, so we turned down Mary Rd. As we approached the quarry along FR 4 / Telegraph Rd., it quickly became apparent that proceeding further would not be a career-enhancing move. Strictly high-clearance / 4WD. I parked early, kissed my wife, and off James and I went.

    The hardest part of the hike was the up & downs on FR 4. I was hoping to have a go at Hill 3012, as it would doubtless have a killer view of the wet & woodsy parts of the Picketpost Circumference hike, but it quickly became apparent that despite the white hill not being that tall, it was surrounded by sheer cliffs beyond our ability to climb. [-( And we did not want to invest time searching for an easy route, as the main event was on the mesa to our left.

    We got to Rock Tank in good time, despite me taking a bajillion pictures. (151, to be exact, of which I uploaded 112, and eventually settled on 63. ;) ) Rock Tank looked just as full as it had over a month ago when I saw it from afar while on the Wood Canyon Rim hike. It was being fed by a small creek, with low, but regular flow. We picked up an obvious foot trail from the tank towards Filaria Spring. Never did spot the spring, but it must be pretty healthy to keep Rock Tank full. From there, it was only another 150 feet up to the saddle.

    Where the obvious foot trail continued east to the Wood Canyon Rim trailhead, we instead turned north, ascending 300 ft. to the top of the mesa. Awesome view of Telegraph Canyon. :o (And Picketpost Mountain ...) After a quick snack, we followed the mesa rim northeast. We spotted the apparent wall from a quarter mile away -- it is that large. And a few minutes later, we arrived, and it was indeed a wall, not some satellite anomaly. Coolios! Better yet, we found at least two more wall segments. :y: No pottery, or other signs of ancient civilization, but we certainly were not complaining. :D

    Then it was a matter of finding the best way over the rim, back down to FR 4. SpiderLegs found us a real easy route over only two six foot boulders, and from there it was a steep, but otherwise easy stroll down to the road, and back to the trailhead.

    Awesome hike: I plan on doing it again, exploring some other parts of the Hill 3464 mesa.

    Not a lot of flowers, but what flowers there are were very colorful.

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    Map Drive
    FR / Jeep Road - Car possible when dry

    To hike
    From Phoenix, as you head east on U.S. 60, take the first paved road south (Mary Dr.). The road bends left, then right, around a housing area. At .5 miles, it bends left at the fire station. At the fire station intersection, turn right onto Telegraph Canyon Rd. At 1.0 miles, it turns from pavement to gravel. There are many side trails, stay on the main / largest one (Telegraph Rd.). At 1.9 miles, the road turns west, and starts getting worse. You will reach the designated trailhead at 2.2 miles. Do not even think of trying to drive past the designated TH without high clearance, 4x4 and some skill.
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