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Reverse Flatiron, AZ

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Difficulty 4.5 of 5
Distance Loop 8.5 miles
Trailhead Elevation 2,975 feet
Elevation Gain 2,864 feet
Accumulated Gain 3,376 feet
Kokopelli Seeds 19.75
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7  2019-03-17 survivordude
15  2019-02-27
Canyon of the Waterfalls & Massacre Falls
25  2019-02-23 RickVincent
10  2019-02-10 Daytripper
24  2019-01-13
Reverse Flatiron
8  2018-11-08 caragruey
2  2018-03-11 RickVincent
15  2018-03-10 ddgrunning
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This very steep, scrambly, off-trail route begins near the end of the Massacre Falls hike and climbs steadily up to peak 5024, before dropping down to the Flatiron. Only recommended for the most adventurous and experienced off-trail hikers.

Page statistics are for the popular loop. It could be done as an out-n-back. Generally by the time you get to the Flatiron it seems much easier to hike the down to Flation and back around on Jacob's Crosscut on maintained trails.

Look under the "Alternative Routes" tab for variations others have taken. You might consider the First Water Tributaries if you want to start at the First Water Trailhead. This is also a nice free alternative for a meatier version of the Superstition Ridgeline.

Joe Bartels created the term "Reverse Flation" in 2007 when the now non-existent Massacre Trailhead existed. Now the Crosscut Trailhead is the nearest trailhead to conquer the Flatiron in the reverse fashion.

Check out the Official Route and Triplogs.

This is a more difficult hike. It would be unwise to attempt this without prior experience hiking.

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2018-07-14 HAZ_Hikebot

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    Most recent Triplog Reviews
    Reverse Flatiron
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    Started at Lost Ductchman Park from the Treasure Loop TH out of the Saguaro parking lot. Followed Treasure Loop to Praying Hands then continued along the back side of the mountain towards the first drainage that begins ascending towards 5024 from the North East. Followed the drainage to the finger spire, then began the off-trail ascent to the south. Continued up towards the cliffs and hoodoos that surround 5024. Reached the peak in 2hrs, 25 mins. Joined 3 others who were already up top before me. Took a break as they began their way down. Finished up by returning down Siphon Draw and working my way through the crowds.
    Reverse Flatiron
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    The reverse route has become my preferred way to tackle 5024. Less traffic, as in zero. Its more work, but worth it. This was my first time completing the loop from hwy 88 TH. Up to Praying Hands, up to 5024, down Siphon (back to the crowds) and then wrap around the mountain and back to 88.

    Start time 4:45am. Ran a little long, finishing up at 9:30am. Could feel the heat, thats for sure. Of course, the heat doesn't seem to stop the 8am crowd just getting started up Siphon. Nuts!
    Reverse Flatiron
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    Wanted to head back up and check out the dry falls area of this hike. Read that Miners Camp shut off all parking for hikers, so I called, true enough, some hikers were abusing the privilege ( over 55 yrs of allowing parking ) and cutting across their neighbor's yards, they received so many complaints that they shut it off :cry: Went and bought a season pass for the Lost Dutchman Park. Parked at the Cholla TH and headed up to the falls. What a nice day, the trail to the falls is in perfect shape :). Headed back and worked our way back to Cholla on a trail I show on Basecamp as Lost Dutchman Loop, part of this trail has been newly worked over the past week, lost the trail and headed over to Cholla, next time we'll reverse and see if we can determine what is going on.
    Reverse Flatiron
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    A reverse Flatiron to reverse the effects of over-eating on Thanksgiving. Took the Praying Hands route, wrapped around the north tip of the mountain and up the first major drainage up the backside of the mountain. This route intersects with the Massacre Falls Reverse Flatiron route at a ridgeline that slants straight up the mountain towards the hoodoos up top. Made it up to 5024 without seeing a soul. Just under 2 hours from parking lot to the top. Started my descent toward Flatiron. From the moment I reached the vertical wall, it was like morning rush hour going up the draw.
    Reverse Flatiron
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    Got a late start around 12:30pm. Wouldn't want to do that in June. Found some ice on a shaded pool on the back side of the mountain. Just a few traces of snow near the top. It was like rush hour going down Siphon Draw. I bypassed the vertical wall and went around the secret side access to pass the line of people trying to figure out if they wanted to go down the left or the right.
    Reverse Flatiron
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    Ok, so just getting around to writing up my triplog for the Reverse Flat Iron route. Following Rick Vincents route.

    Starting over at the Mining Camp at 0656, We worked our way up the Treasure Loop past the Hand. After a bit we hoppped off trail and headed straight into a drainage. Some ice covering the pools of water in the falls area here. A hawk perched on a spire giving us special attention. We caught the ridge up that was just above the falls. Following this ridge straight towards the hoodoos high above us on the mountains ridgeline.

    Only a few moments of reprieve from this point to the ridgeline. Steep. The morning dew still icey on the grassy areas of the slopes. Scree. Cholla. Steeper still. More cholla. An agave found my left thigh and found momentary shelter inside my leg... Buckhorn hiding in the long grass also found refuge from the slopes inside my calf. Just about to the top. The hoodoos are getting closer. They're so close. My thighs are burning. My calves are rebelling. I just wanna top out, hit 5024 and have my damn coconut water at this point. Finally, we're rounding up on some smooth rock and then the Ridgeline is right there.

    One last push up to 5024. And wow. What a great hike. Chill on 5024 for about a half hour and eat while we rehydrate. Down Siphon Draw and out. Wow. Busy trail on New Years eve day. Glad we took the back way up :y:
    Reverse Flatiron
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    Time to get this off our Bucket List. Thanks to Vincent and gmaclachian's routes we had a big idea where we went wrong in the past attempts. Thought we were all set, but then decided we wanted a few more miles and do an off route extension after we topped out behind the Hoodoos, hooking up with the ridgeline trail via a small saddle we had spotted previously. Parked at the second parking spot off 1st water and up we went. All went well, 3/4th of the way up we startled a couple of : rein : but to quick for a pic. Got up and over the Hoodoos East of 5024 and spotted the saddle we wanted to go down and connect with the ridgeline trail back to Flatiron. This is such a beautiful hike and especially up on top past the 1st set of Hoodoos my camera wouldn't stop clicking :M2C: :D . Started down and ran in to a wall of trees and bushes, couldn't go thru or under as they were really thick. ](*,) Backed out and worked our way up and around the North side of the Thicket. Hooked up with the ridgeline and up and over connecting with the Reverse Flatiron Route. Decided not to head over to Flatiron due to setting sun. Headed down Siphon Draw to Jacob's Crosscut and headed North to parking lot. Got dark on us and missed a sign , we ended up over at the Cholla Campground area, all in all was a great hike, but happy I was able to cross it off my Bucket List....
    Reverse Flatiron
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    Enjoyed this hike so much last week that I decided to do it again for my 20th Flatiron of 2015. From the point where my route meets the traditional Reverse FI route, I looked down and could see a lone hiker in white far down below me. It looked like he was in the Massacre Grounds area.

    Stayed pretty true to the previous weeks route even duplicating one section that I didn't like the first time around. Oh well. I made it to 5024 then moved on to Flatiron. Took in the usual views then moved on.

    New paint on the trail. This time from what looks like a bingo blotter. Could call this person the Bingo Bandit or blundering idiot, whichever you like better. The blots seem to be meant to help anyone traveling down, not up. Even a few arrows made from the blotter pen. The spots are white and are far less annoying than blue and orange arrows, but still frustrating to see in this wilderness area.
    Reverse Flatiron
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    Decided to finally tackle this one after reading the description, reviewing the excellent triplogs, and looking for the perfect weather day. My wife and I love to hike, and we don't do it for speed. We enjoy setting out at a reasonable hour (in this case 8:30 am), and planning on making a day of it (we returned shortly after 5 pm). We like to take breaks, enjoy our lunch, and chat with fellow hikers along the way. Can't help you with GPS routes or waypoints or anything like that either, as we prefer to go "old school" on our adventures. No techies here, we like to find our way ourselves, without such aids. Although beneficial in many ways, we are sure, we find it akin to those walking around staring at their phones. Just our take. No offense. :M2C:

    So, off we go from Jacob's off First Water, up to Massacre Falls where the waterfall was running nicely after last week's rainfall. We crossed the drainage and picked our way up to a rock formation we dubbed, some time back, as Napoleon's Hat, based on its look from the Massacre Grounds. From there, we headed up, and to the right of, the drainage all the way to the top of the Supes. We set a comfortable pace, and although largely unmarked, found a good route quite easily by studying the contours of the land as we hiked. On the way up, and with no rhyme or reason we found an old coconut husk. After a quick picture, we continued up until crossing through the hoodoos that were coveniently separated for our passage, and then headed over to Peak 5024 for some lunch. We then dropped down to Flat Iron, where we took in the splendid views, and chatted with another couple that struck up a conversation about the Wave Cave (a place near and dear to us).

    We did learn that a hiker had fallen from the wall at the top of the climb to Flat Iron. She had hit her head in the fall, and was making her way back down. We met her at Siphon Draw (at the very top of the chute). She was with family, but no one had any pain medication. Upon overhearing this, we happily dug into our little cache and got her some much needed relief. Although she seemed alert and taking, she was airlifted out at the bottom as a precaution for some observation. Another hiker on the way down had badly twisted her ankle, but was hobbling out under her own power, as well. Please be careful when out there, as so many things can go wrong for even the most prepared hiker, and one must be prepared at all times for the unexpected.

    We were so excited about our grand adventure that we were picking our way down at a nice pace, passing young and old alike, and being grateful for our good health and this fine day. We had spent it, as usual, together on a trail, and had made sure to not rush getting back home.

    This is not a hike we would repeat on a regular basis, as we prefer the certainty of a trail, but for an occasional adventure, a bit out of the ordinary, this one fits the bill!
    Reverse Flatiron
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    Reverse Flatiron ccw
    Lee had ambitious plans for Veterans Day, and I had told him I would hike whatever he came up with. In the end, things got scaled back from a couple of 10-12 hour adventures into a shorter day trip up Flatiron. I wouldn't let him get away with just the Flatiron, and I was able to convince him to hit the Reverse on the way down.

    Since he had never to Flatiron before, I decided Siphon Draw had to be experienced on the ascent, and we hauled pumpkin up to avoid the early holiday crowds, including one very entitled young woman who decided that screaming at us was a good way to handle a tough situation. All I could think of was four dashes. :--:

    A bit farther up we passed a guy and two girls and as I climbed up, the guy says to me "This may sound awkward, but you have very impressive calves" :oops: I :lol: , told him he wasn't the first to say so, said 'thank you', and kept going. :scared:

    Up top in under 1:25 we took a quick break to take in the views on the Flatiron and chat with some HAZ lurkers before ditching them and the holiday tourists and heading for 5024 where we spotted a beautiful panther while enjoying a snack.

    From there we headed down toward Massacre Falls using the routes previously posted on HAZ. It was very steep and there was some loose scree along the way, but it was a fun route and we were happy not to be returning in Siphon Draw. Once we hit the Massacre Trail, our pace picked up and eventually we cut west, taking an adventurous off-trail route toward the Crosscut trail and back to Mining Camp.

    Along the way, we witnessed the rarest of rare sights on the trail, and Lee also found some sweet pottery ;) . Even I was impressed since it was much more than just a pile of rocks! : app :

    On a serious note, I'd like to express my gratitude to all of those who have served our country. On HAZ I know of FOTG, BiFrost, Kingsnake, AZ Wandering Bear, AHOTE, Flying_Fliver, hikerdw, SuperstitionGuy, Jason Cleghorn, CannondaleKid, Azbackpackr's son (and I'm sure others I'm not aware of) who have personally sacrificed for the rest of us. This holiday is just one day for recognition of their service but one I personally appreciate every single day of the year. Thank you all very much. : app : :worthy:

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