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Venezia Trail #381, AZ

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Distance One Way 1.4 miles
Trailhead Elevation 6,220 feet
Elevation Gain 470 feet
Accumulated Gain 700 feet
Avg Time One Way 0.5 hour
Kokopelli Seeds 3.73
Interest Seasonal Creek
Backpack Possible - Not Popular
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Collins Venezia Senator ExL Loop
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Crooks Canyon - Ash Creek Canyon Loop
Author MEWhiteman
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Location Phoenix, AZ
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by MEWhiteman

This trail (Venezia Trail #381) is named for a nearby site of a mine and town. It provides access to Trail #281 (E Cross L) and FR70 at the top of Ash Creek Ridge.

This began as a hike on the E Cross L trail as described on this website but the initial section from that trailhead to Ash Creek Ridge was extremely difficult to follow and overgrown, and my hiking buddy and I didn't want to return to the car on that trail. So we decided to hike back on the Venezia Trail and then FR52 to the #281 trailhead and our car.

Parking is at a premium at the trailhead (N34 23.599 W112 25.135) which is about 15.6 miles south of Prescott and 1.6 miles north of Palace Station on FR52 (Senator Road). A vertical fiberglas sign marks the single track trail on the west side of the road. There is a wide area of the road across from the trail which would fit one or two cars. There are a few other wide spots within a couple of tenths of a mile in either direction and the mine access road just south of the trailhead.

The trail begins its uphill climb almost immediately and continues until it reaches Ash Creek Ridge in about 1.4 miles. On the ridge it forms a junction with Trail #281 and FR70 at N34 22.715 W112 25.621. There is a wooden sign for Trail 281 at the junction. FR70 takes off up the hill on the right just before the sign. The trail was shaded and easy to follow, was pretty clear of brush, and appeared to be used by hikers and bikers.

Upon reaching this junction you have several options. You can return the way you came. You can continue ahead on Trail #281 down to Ash Creek and then north along the drainage to the intersection with FR70, then south on FR 70 back to #381 at this junction and then back to your car on #381. This is described in the E Cross L Trail write-up on this site, but you'd be using #381 to reach Ash Creek Ridge rather than #281. This would be about a 10 mile loop (lasso). Another 10 mile loop option would be to follow FR70 north from the junction, then FR81 and FR52B to the Senator Road (FR52). Return to the trailhead by following FR52 south. A third option would be to return to FR52 via Trail 281, then follow FR52 north back to your car. However, if you take this option, be prepared for thorny brush on the difficult to follow trail. The Trail #281 trailhead on FR52 is located at N34 22.732 W112 24.709. This would be a 4.5 mile loop.

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2009-07-16 MEWhiteman

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    Most recent Triplog Reviews
    Venezia Trail #381
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    Collins Venezia Senator ExL Loop
    I got together with Chumley and The Eagle for a hike in the Bradshaws. We drove up on Saturday morning and started hiking making a clockwise loop. The first few miles were along road and went by fairly quickly. We explored some of the features of the area and continued our hike. We eventually left the road and hiked through a wooded section. There were some cool old buildings along the way. It must have been a cool place to live back in the day. This was a nice hike and I really enjoyed the historical aspect of this area.
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    Crooks Canyon - Ash Creek Canyon Loop
    With a 70% chance of Rain, we were all ready to get soaked on the day. Only problem, Ma Nature just decided to crank up the humidity a bit. Chums wanted to try the area Joe and I had been to before and I wanted to click off the Venezia Trail and search south of Palace Station on FR82 and Crooks Canyon.

    I showed the guys Palace Station, the Palace Station Cemetery and headed down tree covered Crooks Canyon. Nice area w/ lots of camping opportunities. I still need to head further south in the future. The Elouise Mine area was posted "No Tresspassing", but it didn't appear that anyone had driven up there in quite some time.

    We made a turn to the west, past the Bodie Mine area. At this point we were climbing and out of the trees, so none of us felt the urge to hike down to the area.

    After 9L had us pass up the Collins Trail, we back tracked to get back on this single track. This short trail dead ends and the E Cross L Cabin Area and the E Cross L Trail. We searched around the shed and the the Cabin area. Found some old stone walls, steps and what appeared to be a pile of old lumber from the old torn down cabin. a newer cabin from the 60's (in rough shape, but has seen some use in the past 5 of years) stands just west of the pile.

    Up the E Cross L now, it climbs steadily for 3 miles, up 1300', to an old forest road. Once at the top, we opted to cut a couple of road miles off by scrambling down a "steepish" slope to the Senator.

    The Venezia trail does offer some pretty views as it climbs 400' up from the Senator to meet the E Cross L Trail. Anyone hiking the E Cross L trail, should either hike it, ending at the TH by Palace Station, or take the official GPS Track. The lower sections are overgrown and it's easy to see where Joe and I got offtrack last time here.

    Temps for the most part were 75 - 80 with scattered clouds, so it made it real nice for hiking. Good company, good conversation, fun times.

    Thanks for driving Mr. Chums
    Venezia Trail #381
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    Collins Venezia Senator ExL Loop
    Bruce hadn't hiked the 1.5 mile Venezia trail and somehow we hiked 17 miles looking for it.

    It was humid, but generally pleasant, mostly cloudy, and rain free. 9L got caught up in the poison ivy, and missed the waterfalls and swimming hole at the spring.

    After a few detours we decided to cut a corner off the top of the route, and it resulted in a short but steep bushwhack from the top of Collins down to the Senator Highway. It wasn't at all prickly, so it was a worthwhile shortcut.

    Venezia is a great trail and especially nice in cloudy or cooler weather. E Cross L is overgrown but can be followed if attentive. The GPS track helps. Collins is a pleasure. The road hike is great on Senator. Crooks Canyon is quite scenic. The hike on FR82 is not great, but the views make up for it. We missed the turn for 281, but once found, it was a really nice climb to the top of the ridge.

    Notes: the Elouise Trail #306 doesn't exist ... at least if it does it's on well-marked private property. Don't plan a trip on that one.
    HAZ lists the E Cross L Trail. One sign has it as E & L. The sign near Palace Station has it as E+L. So there's that.

    Permit $$

    Prescott Forest
    Prescott National Forest Pass

    Only trailheads with six "amenities" have fees. Amenities are picnic tables, trash, toilet, parking, interpretive signing and security.

    Map Drive
    High Clearance possible when dry

    To hike
    From the center of Prescott drive .3 miles south on Gurley St. Turn right on Mt Vernon Street, aka Senator Highway, which becomes FR52. Follow this road to the trailhead. At 7.3 miles the road becomes unpaved. Continue for another 8.3 miles on FR52 to the trailhead on the right.
    page created by MEWhiteman on Jul 16 2009 2:36 pm
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