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Sandys Canyon Trail out-n-back to the cave at the base of Fisher Point Vista.

This is one of my favorite hot weather hikes. It's toasty but still much cooler in the Flagstaff area this time of year, and this is a nice low maintenance hike that's an easy ramble.

It's a quick 100-foot drop into the canyon and then completely flat the rest of the way. This canyon is technically Walnut Canyon and I'm sure if you kept on going you would eventually run into Walnut Canyon National Monument.

You will cross paths with the Arizona Trail and actually walk on the AZT for a little while. The trail curves to the right after about 1.85 miles and you'll see an enormous jutting rock with a shallow cave. This is Fisher Point. The cave is a nice place to sit and take some shade. Beyond here there be dragons. The canyon narrows and you find yourself walking in the bushes. There is another cave about a half mile from the first one, and it's on the right. This one is deeper and dark. The air is very cool, you'll notice. There is graffiti etched on the walls inside the cave, I took photos of the graffiti but I doubt they can be printed here, as the messages were quite raw. People, if you've got an urge to write graffiti on a natural object like a cave wall, please say something profound, not profane, or at least write something nice.

The trail goes on from here. It goes on and on and on. We stopped at about 3.5 miles, as I was not going to make it back with enough water. This is such an easy walk, though, one could just keep going and see where they end up!

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2003-07-02 Desertboots
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    Fisher Point via Sandys Canyon Trail
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    Decided to get out of the heat and took a day hike up to Fisher Point (just south of Flagstaff) Via Sandy's Canyon Trail. 70 degrees to start the day with a high of 82. WHAT A BEAUTIFUL HIKE! From the trail head you follow the path down into the canyon. At first it's a little rocky, down the first 1/2 mile or so. But once into the canyon it flattens out and opens as you head North toward Fisher Point and really lets you know you're out in nature.

    In the hottest part of summer here in the valley the cooler temps and green trees of Flagstaff were a welcomed sight. Tall and towering compared to the desert we're surrounded by. As you hike what is a small part of the Arizona Trail, the path evens out and widens. Each trail that intersects is well identified and easy to follow. (Kudos to the Coconino Parks and Rec. Department)

    The hike to Fisher Point is just over 2 miles. Easily done within an hour. But please take the time and enjoy your surrounding. The small cave at Fisher Point is cool to explore. I won't go into to much detail, but take a flashlight and go inside, you'll love it.

    Just before the cave the trail splits right (east) into Walnut Canyon or left (north *Arizona Trail) to Flagstaff. We went East further into the canyon were the trail shrinks a bit into a narrow path with much overgrowth around the creek, in which I never did see any water. I loved the winding trial through this area but we only ventured another 1 1/2 before we turned around and backtracked out.

    Overall I loved this hike, although a squirrel, witch eluded my hiking partner by running right behind him, was the only wildlife I saw.
    Fisher Point via Sandys Canyon Trail
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    My wife and I hiked Sandy's Canyon and then something over a mile into Walnut Canyon. On the way back, I went up to Fisher Overlook to check out the views.

    So, getting there... the written driving directions are correct for the hike, but the GPS coordinates for Google (and probably the other mapping services too) are incorrect - they led us to the nearby campground instead of Sandy's Trailhead. Not a big deal - it was easy to get to the correct starting location, but someone may want to correct this. [EDIT: Ignore the preceding paragraph - GPS coordinates for the drive have been fixed. The official GPS track has also been fixed to start at the trailhead instead of the campground.]

    When we got there, I realized that I had been there once or twice back in the late eighties or early nineties. But I hadn't hiked Sandy's Canyon. I went there with some of my climbing buddies to climb at The Pit. I wasn't very good back then and really struggled on those climbs. I'd probably still struggle on them, but perhaps for different reasons.

    Sandy's Canyon is okay. Walnut Canyon is a lot better - good views and more enclosed. Some cool caves along the way. The view from Fisher Overlook is okay too, but I couldn't find a point at which to see much of Walnut Canyon due to trees. (But due to time constraints, I didn't spend a lot of time up there.) In hindsight, I think my time might have been better spent hiking more of Walnut Canyon.

    Like everywhere else I've hiked recently, it's really dry there.

    It seemed to be a popular spot; we saw a number of other hikers and mountain bikers - a surprising number of mountain bikers. We had dropped our daughter off for an event at NAU; we found it to be a quick and easy drive to and from the campus.
    Fisher Point via Sandys Canyon Trail
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    Route Scout gave out at the 6.72 mark so the AEG is wrong and I drew in the rest of our route. My phone screen cracked and maybe that's what caused it. The worst thing is I just paid $105 to have it replaced. I did not drop it nor set down my waist pack so I have no idea how it cracked but I'm not happy about it as the bottom third of my phone doesn't work... again ](*,) . And then I forgot to verify what time we got back to the TH so it's kind of a guess on time. And let me tell you, when you're hiking with Sandy on the flat, you're moving right along. Fortunately she got distracted a couple times so I could catch up :lol: .

    Anyway, I wanted to do a hike on Sunday after the AZT Trail Days Event and Sandy said she was interested. She had wanted to do Kendrick but I said no dice since I wasn't in good enuf shape to do that plus we would have to backtrack too far from where we would be camping by Mormon Lake area. So after a flight of beers and some food on Saturday afternoon, Wendy came up with the Fisher Point idea. Perfect! We car camped up on the Arizona Trail off of 90N arriving there around 9PM after errands.

    We left Mormon Lake area around 7:45 I think and drove thru some fog and continued on Hwy 3 to the new Sandy's Canyon TH. We geared up and headed over and down the trail to the flat. We passed a family before having the trail to ourselves until a little ways up to the Overlook. There were flowers scattered about so we would check them out before continuing on the trail. I always worry about the hill up to the Fisher Point Scenic Viewpoint but had no problems today. I showed Sandy around and we took the requisite photos. Before we left we followed a trail off to the east but it didn't seem like it went anywhere so we crossed over the downed barb wire fence back to the trail.

    We went to Fisher Point and continued east up Walnut Canyon to look for the caves. We went by one but I said let's see that on the way back. Well that was the last one and we ended up hiking about another 3/4 of a mile before I said this doesn't really feel right and the trail seemed to be less used here. It was an interesting area but we were caving at this point. So we turned back and finally see bent down grass to go check out a cave. There was one we found that I don't recollect seeing the last time I was here. Getting up to it was interesting as you had to get by a tree and over some mossy rocks; but it was the coolest cave with great scenery in front of it.

    Another of the caves which I think was the out place for the next cave was very grown in and hard to get to. Next was the big cave so we checked that out using our cell phone flashlights and my headlamp. It wasn't the best lighting but better than nothing. So finally we got to see the caves and one more alcove before heading on west to Fisher Point to check out that alcove/cave. Somehow when I came out of the last caves, RouteScout stopped and a crack appeared on my cell phone screen. I'm just having terrible technology problems the last couple months :( .

    From there, Sandy was off to the races. She can really cover that flat ground pretty quickly. We had broken clouds for most of the day which kept the temps from getting hot. I have to say my legs were getting a little sore though so I was glad when she would get distracted and stop for a moment and I could catch up. I got up the little hill out of Walnut Creek fairly well too. I got back to Tonto Jr and turned RouteScout off hoping it was actually recording but no such luck. So all I got was the 6.72 miles and 725 AEG.

    It was a nice day to be out on the trail and get some miles in. Originally we thot we would be doing the 6 miles as advertised on HAZ but with the hike up to the Overlook and back to the caves and beyond, it added a few miles. We probably saw around a dozen or so other hikers during the hike. The TH had quite a few more cars than when we came. It's a nice little TH. Wonder if they will move the AZT sign to here?. Seems a better place for it; or at least put another sign.

    We parted ways as Sandy takes the 87 to Gold Canyon and I the 17 for North Phx. Traffic wasn't the best and hit some rain for a bit too.

    Fisher Point via Sandys Canyon Trail
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    first thing I noticed is a lot of the trail descriptions for this hike have you parking at the camp grounds, we parked at the Sandys Canyon trail head parking which is just before the campgrounds. This might shorten the hike a bit, but not by much. As usual, 3 cars when we got there, totally full when we were leaving.
    None of us had done this hike before. We wanted something to escape the heat of the valley, but not something to demanding. This was perfect. Its a nice chill hike. We started at about 9am and the sun wasn't a probably at anytime. The trail is easy, scenic, enjoyable. Once we reached fisher point we ventured on into Walnut Canyon. About 1/4 mile in we found a nice cave. I've read some past triplogs, not sure if this is the one people have mentioned before, buts a good size cave, with a very high ceiling. After enjoying the cave, having some snacks, we hiked back to the truck and went into Flagstaff for lunch. Great day.

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    Fisher Point via Sandys Canyon Trail
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    Claire and I headed up to Flagstaff to spend the weekend playing in the snow. We started with Sandy’s Canyon after driving up on Saturday morning. The area had a good blanket of snow but the trail was well packed after lots of use. We headed out and made good time as we dropped into Sandy’s Canyon and headed north towards Fisher Point. Along the way we stopped at the cave below the point and then detoured east for another cool cave. This one has an alternate entrance that connects to the main entrance. We enjoyed this cave and then headed back and connected on to Fisher Point. We topped out and took a short lunch break. The views south were very nice and our weather was sunny and pleasant. From Fisher Point we dropped back into the canyon and headed south back to our trailhead. It was easy going as we hiked back and we passed about a dozen people hiking in. This was a nice hike and we had perfect weather.
    Fisher Point via Sandys Canyon Trail
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    Went up with the family yesterday to get out of the Phoenix heat. Flagstaff hot isn't Phoenix hot but it was still pretty toasty without a cloud in the sky so we decided to take it easy on everyone and do Sandy's Canyon which is FLAT (minus the little climb down into the canyon and then of course back out again at the end.) My son and I did a small portion of this trail in early May when we hiked out to Marshall Lake. Everything was much greener and more lush today. Quite a few flowers and butterflies. It was really beautiful!

    We started about 8:30 and were surprised at how toasty it was already. Once we hit the first cave, which was a very nice cool retreat from the summer sun, the beauty of the canyon really drew us in. Even though some in our party are not avid hikers at all, no one complained when we went past Fisher point and about a mile or so into Walnut Canyon. Eventually, with the heat of the day and my son blowing through most of his water, we decided it was best to turn around. Plus, we just couldn't take the bugs anymore. The canyon was beautiful but the Kajillions of gnats were NOT! We took lots of breaks for the dogs, picture taking and just to admire this or that. We made it back to the car around 12:45, just as the thunder clouds started rolling in, and headed into town for lunch before driving back home for the big dust storm.

    No wildlife on this trip. We ran across a variety of others out enjoying the canyon. About 12 people overall. Some on foot, 3 on horseback, a few on bikes and about 3 with other dogs. Ours were sure worn out by the time we were done and thankful for the a/c in the car when we got back.
    Fisher Point via Sandys Canyon Trail
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    Walnut Canyon - AZT #31 Sandy to FR 303 DRAT! blisters :tt: . But let me give it a shot anyway. If they don't get worse; I should be fine right? Luckily for us, Shawn's truck seats 6 so we were able to set up a 3 car shuttle... figure that one out, ha! After not wanting to run thru town from our campsite to get to Lake Mary Rd, we took the airport exit and came back to it on I-17. Karl figured out where the turn to Marshall Lake was and we made it to drop them off; expecting to run into them at the Sandy Cany Trail junction.... except that their trek was a mile and 1/2 or so longer than we thot.

    We arrived at the Canyon Vista hikers parking lot and geared up for the day. It was expected to be a nice trail with one hill and minimal elevation gain after that. I thot I would give myself to the junction or Fisher Point as the bail out option if my edge of the heal blisters gave me too much grief. They bothered me some but I thot I could tough it out. The trail was not nearly as sandy due to the recent rains I presume. We arrived at the junction and put out 3 Ts (Tibber) to let them know we had passed. We would end up doing this about 3 more times at various junctions until they caught us.

    This is such a lovely hike and the hill up and around toward Fisher Point is not bad at all. It has the steep/level/catch your breath pattern that I am very fond of :) . Once we finally finished off the second part of the climb and rounded the last bend, we made it to the junction with the Fisher Point Overlook. I had just been there earlier this year so I just rested while the others went to check it out. After they returned we fully expected to see K&K come up the hill but after awhile we decided to T the intersection and get back on the trail.

    After reviewing the printout I had with me, it looked like at each point they mentioned the elevation got lower so I announced it was all downhill from here to which Shawn promptly remarked, "I've heard that before" ;) . Well it was almost all downhill with just a bit of a climb out of Walnut Canyon. We hiked thru the forest and into open meadow-like areas. It was quite green and as I said before, the trail was really nice. But it didn't seem to matter anymore to my blistered heals. I was starting to drag now anxiously awaiting the lunch break so that I could put on a couple more band-aids and change to a thicker sock instead of the liners under my regular hiking socks.

    Finally around 12:30, we stopped. And about 10 minutes or so later K&K arrived. This time, we would get to hike with them instead of going our separate ways. We all looked forward to that. I tended to my blisters and then it was back on the trail again. I told Kathy to go ahead as I was going to be straggling :stretch: the rest of the day. She would go ahead for awhile and then wait and hike with me from time to time. And then it was up and out of the Canyon for good as we passed a most interesting water cache for the animals.

    I started lagging even more now and my heals were starting to burn. I could probably finish off this hike but we had the Keet Seel backpack coming up in 4 days (which was later canceled :( as the person's vehicle we were going with got rear-ended and Dr. told her no heavy pack due to neck issues). Everyone regrouped at another intersection and it was here that I threw in the towel and told them I would probably have to stop at the next easiest access point. Lucky for me, that was only 1/2 mile away at FR 303. So they dropped me there and would pick me up after they finished out the last 4 miles. I was so looking forward to banging out my biggest back to back mileages but it just wasn't meant to be.

    1:55 PM So I laid down in the shade and spooked a few people that walked by. Another fella with a bike saw me laying there, put his bike in this truck and fired up the truck but didn't move for a few minutes so I thot he might think I'm dead or something so I popped up my head. He then drove away and said goodbye as he continued down the road (I should have asked him to give me a ride to the end of the road :doh: ). Well after about an hour I couldn't take it anymore so I got myself together and decided to walk down the road to the intersection with Old Walnut Canyon Rd... or at least as far as I could go.

    Well I guess Karl put on the afterburners and before I knew it, I saw him coming down the road around 3:15. I had walked about 1/2 mile. Karl on the other hand had hiked those last 4 miles in a little over an hour :o
    We drove back to the TH and the others toodled in about 10 minutes later. And then it was back to camp to pick up the packages of wood and for me to tear down my tent and load my stuff into Ambika's vehicle. Everyone helped me :gun: so the tent was down and folded in like 5 minutes and the car was loaded in 15. Awesome.

    We parted ways after completing another good weekend of the Arizona Trail.

    9-3-2014 And I have one video for this hike; not nearly as colorful as the previous day. It's produced, just not uploaded yet. 9-22-2014 finally published the video: [ youtube video ] ...
    Fisher Point via Sandys Canyon Trail
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    I was invited up to Camp May for the weekend but could only swing Fri and Sat nite. All I can say about their camp is :y: and so glad I came. Upon my arrival the Mays even helped me set up my tent. Once that was done it was time for alcohol and snacks and then an amazing spaghetti dinner with garlic bread. But not before a walk over to the little telescope set up to look in the meadow at the pronghorns. This one pronghorn had HUGE antlers. The Mays also promised me a meadow full of elk but that was not to be :( as I am an elk jinxer.

    A little late in the evening I broke out the Fireball and we enjoyed that to give us the semblance of warmer bodies as it was a bit nippy. I don't know who at Reavis got me started on the Fireball but I have been passing along the tradition ever since :) . I slept pretty cold and realized about 4AM that I could use my sleeping bag liner but was too stupid [-X to get out of the sleeping bag and retrieve it. The next morning we had a nice breakfast burrito and freshly brewed coffee. This camp has everything; it was such a treat. The Mays as I expected, were great hosts.

    I wanted to do the Fisher Point hike and persuaded them and their friends to join us along with their two dogs. It was a little further away than I thot or seemed to recall from the map but we had all day to do what we wanted anyway. We made our way to the first junction with the AZT. Stephanie and Wade went up for a geocache (had to go up a pretty good hill). And then the pretty descent into Sandy's Canyon; all the time remembering you had to come back up.

    We crossed the dry Walnut Creek and then headed north on the trail passing the intersection with the trail to Marshall Lake and then the intersection that takes you to Flagstaff in under 4 miles. As you walk a little further east we finally spotted the cave and not too far a sign that said Fisher Point 1.1 miles UP the hill. So up we went encountering a couple switchbacks along the way. The up wasn't too bad as it leveled off a few times until you finally reach the intersections with Arizona Trail (before the intersection at the top of the hill there is also an intersection to another trail but I can't remember the name).

    We thot once at the point you would have views of the SF Peaks and such but you don't. Our mileage at the top was 4 miles. According to two trip reports the total mileage was supposed to be 6 miles (however, after re-reading the reports, Fisher Point was considered the cave below the point :doh: ) We hung up here for a bit and had a snack before making our way again. Now as you start coming down (heading north), you finely get fleeting views of the snow-topped SF Peaks. It's a nice little drainage you hike next to when you start heading south with some cool trees and rock formations and dead fallen over tree trunks.

    We headed over to the cave and checked it out and then decided we wanted to go further on to see the other caves. So glad we did as walking thru this section is so cool with the rock walls and grasses. I thot you might find this interesting: from
    Prior to the building of the dam on Lake Mary to contain the waters that make up 50% of Flagstaff's water supply, Walnut Canyon actually contained a free-flowing creek that sustained the ancient Sinagua people's of the area. As you hike into the canyon, you can see evidence of this once flowing creek in rounded river rocks that have mostly since overgrown with grasses and shrubs today.
    The layered rocks ahead of you are Coconino Sandstone, which represent the tilted layers of ancient sand dunes when the region was one of the world's largest deserts some 260 million years ago.
    These rocks he speaks of reminded me of THE WAVE area up in northern AZ/southern UT.

    Before continuing Mary Jo got her phone out to let the other folks know we'd just meet them back at camp. The internet/phone reception seems unlimited up here. Anyway, after passing a few hikers and asking them about the caves they said they had just left one. You come to the first cave pretty quickly, we checked it out and then headed down the trail for the bigger one I had read about.

    Soon we were there, took off our packs and put on our headlamps to explore deeper into this very chilly and narrow cave. It has a very narrow but very tall entrance and comes to an end pretty abruptly really. We could see another passage way but it was not very tall. I decided I would get on my knees and crawl a bit to see it was worth our making the effort. I could see where the area ended but it didn't look like there was a room or anything. With Mary Jo's guidance I crawled backward out of the opening. We may have expected more but it was still pretty neat.

    Mary Jo decided we needed to go check out the opening so we did. We found some inscriptions but what impressed us was the changing colors of the rock above our heads. Hopefully the pictures will convey how beautiful it was. And now that we were done playing it was time to head back so off we went at a pretty quick pace :gun: not stopping until the always impressive lava field. There was a wonderful light wind almost the entire way.

    The hill coming up out of the canyon really wasn't too bad as it had some level spots so we made pretty decent time of it I thot. As you are hiking east you get a great view of the lava rocks that you really can't see when heading out on the trail. Mary Jo and I took a side trip to get a closer look. It seems so massive. Across the way is the climber's wall but we didn't see anybody out.

    We stopped at Lake Mary store to get some ice, beer and bacon and a soda for me and gatorade for Wade before our drive back to camp. That evening Stephanie had prepared teriyaki skirt steak fajitas and Mary Jo had prepared a Moscow Mule in a beautiful copper mug:
    A Moscow mule is a buck or mule cocktail made with vodka, ginger beer, and lime served in a copper mug. It became popular during the vodka craze in the United States during the 1950s. The name refers to the popular perception of vodka as a Russian product.
    Still no elk sightings just two of the three pronghorn. The elk jinx continues. I should say "live" jinx since I did see one on the drive to Pine but it was dead :sk: .

    It got cold again so we were in our tents around 9. That's a little early for me so since everyone seemed to have internet access, I grabbed my phone and checked out FB and HAZ for a bit before turning in. Tonite however, I grabbed my sleeping liner and I slept much warmer except I still have that rotisserie motion going on when one side or the other got a little chilly. Every time I turned, the one side of my mouth grinded together and that hurt. It's caused by my fractured tooth I believe.

    The next morning I got up and gathered things to make my way to Pine to meet up with my AZT partners but not before sitting and enjoying coffee at Camp May. Mary Jo and Wade helped me tear down my tent and pack it away. Now how nice is that : app : plus Mary Jo wanted to make sure I had enough food and snacks for my hike. She was even going to make me breakfast but that was way beyond the pale so I politely begged off but look forward to that the next time I come to Camp May.

    Here are some videos:
    Part 1 Pronghorn in the meadow and the first part of the hike toward Fisher's Point via Sandy Canyon -
    Part 2 Hike over to Fisher's Point and back down to cave -
    Part 3 the other caves

    PS forgot to mention that the slash piles Wendy and I had seen on the hike in Sandy's Canyon in June of 2011 looks to have been burned off this year. I took some photos of the aftermath.
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    Walnut Canyon Loop via Sandy Canyon Trl
    A nice loop with varied and unique views. By no means easy.

    Two small snakes and one tiny one too. Perhaps a pound total in weight. Bruce found a skunk. Didn't tell me. Told to get out of area. Kinna backfired as why set in.

    Only 2.5 quarts agua consumed as the weather was extremely nice for the most part. Wet foliage hampered us with wet feet for twenty miles, otherwise enjoyable. A half mile and quarter mile section are the worst parts. No cats claw just plenty to tear you apart if you come unprepared. Arizona rose was thick for long stretches which would destroy a hiker in sandals/shorts.

    Intrigued that we hiked "down" canyon. Like most north Mogollon Rim canyons it flows... north

    The canyon walls narrow up nicely down to maybe fifty feet in a couple spots. Lots of easy free solo climbing opportunities for those interested. No desire to redo this one. Nevertheless an experience I will cherish.

    video that will touch a nation...

    No huge fields of iron bleeding yellows.
    Plenty of smaller varieties to keep anyone interested engaged for hours.
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    Walnut Canyon Loop via Sandy Canyon Trl
    Since the first time I was in the Walnut Canyon area, I'd always wondered what it would take to get back towards the National Monument via the canyon on. After numerous delays, and with a willing participant, today was the day.

    The plan was to start at the Canyon Vista Campground TH off Lake Mary Rd, down Sandy Canyon Trail, hop on AZ #31, hit Walnut Canyon just past the alcove, attempt to make the Walnut Canyon National Monument Border, climb out of the canyon and loop back on AZT#31. I figured it was 20ish miles depending on what route we could get out of the canyon. Joe was bright eyed, had a positive attitude and raring to go.

    The hike started at a comfortable 61 and didn't hit 80 until we ultimately climbed out of the Canyon. We had some light rain between 10a and 1pm. Just enough to get the foliage and us wet.

    2.5 Miles - Sandy Canyon Trail to the alcove under Fisher Point. Easy, pretty, meadow with flowers between the Canyon walls. I like this area.

    3.0 miles - to the Cave. Light used trail leads south to the entrance.

    11.25 miles - to the National Monument border. The trail goes the entire length. I have to qualify that even though there is a trail there, in spots it is next to near impossible to follow. The brush gets thick...real thick in spots. You can get through the canyon if you pick you routes carefully. After about 1.5 miles past the Cave, the trail is more than likely there due to animal traffic. Other than birds down there, we spotted lot of Elk sign, some bear sign, a small sleeping snake, and a skunk that we were lucky enough to pass 15' from without incident. The Walnut Creek National Monument Border is marked with a small sign on a tree, and 50 yards farther down, by a old broken down t wire fence. At this point we turned around an found our route north out of the canyon.

    12 miles - Out of the canyon - Joe found a nice route out that appeared to carry moderate Elk traffic.

    13 miles - Finally on a real trail (AZT#31)

    18.5 miles - Fisher Point overlook. I never get tired of the view from up there.

    22.2 - Back to the truck just after sunset.

    Thanks for joining me on this one Joe.
    Now you can take me to see Jesus.

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