@LosDosSloFolks Greg, that's my friend Paul...I'm pretty sure I was more modest. @SpiderLegs Good point about SAR/Pros as the last remaining market for retail mountain stores these days. The rest of us got used to cheaper stuff. I spent my formative years in Boulder CO drooling over the pretty stuf...

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I've always enjoyed this guy's outdoor explorations...pleasantly surprised to see him put this together.

The Youtube version of the film just popped up. As expected, high quality, nicely done, but the DNA discussion is "slight".
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@joebartels
Plus it gives you a really deep voice.

@Pivo Seen sometimes in petroglyphs too. @Jim @Alston_Neal Interesting stuff. I think I've read more about genetics+language studies relative to how people spread across Eurasia than here. And I've always been bothered that the genetic studies are really hampered here. I'm not familiar at all with ...

@Alston_Neal
Yeah. So the lesson is that if you see a string of weird images, some modern, laid out a la Egyptian heiroglyphics, think "that may be one of those WMP things".

@Alston_Neal Yes, very interesting. I don't believe I've ever seen one but they look obviously different from the "authentic" ones. The author's detective work, which I think blames an energetic Mormon of the late 1800s and then some copycats seems pretty sound. There are quite a few Basq...

@Pivo
Very interesting. As I understand it DNA analysis to sort out the history and details of Native American migrations is hampered by reluctance of modern tribes to participate or allow study of ancient bones.

@GeeEss
Forget Bing...try Google Lens.

A quick counting of my results:
29 glyphs tested
GL matched 20
Bing IS matched 4

@chumley
I'll give it a try but I'm thinking that hierarchy thing will be on the Google search side
@GeeEss
I'm likely less of a phone guy than you. I'm talking about post-hike work on a laptop.

@chumley That's an impressively quick reading and thorough comment. Your point about possible associated text, location, user name, etc. is interesting and may enter into it. I didn't think about that but I don't think there's much evidence that those things affected my search. When GL came up with...

A few years ago I wondered if Google Lens could help me know if a petroglyph I saw is already posted somewhere on the internet. It could not. I know some HAZ people use Google lens to identify plants. Seems useful. I tried again recently on petroglyphs and got better results. I thought i'd try a &qu...

@FOTG
Yeah that is interesting...looks like a tough drive the probably a tough walk.

@Nighthiker
@FOTG
Good news! This excellent presentation just popped up on Youtube. Search "R.E. Burrillo-Below and Beyond Perry Mesa: The Archaeology of the Greater West Verde Area, Arizona"

Wow. Hate to see he's gone. One of my favorite HAZ guys.

@GeeEss
Actually there are plenty I haven't seen (particularly the pictographs). I was impressed by your scholarly approach to the topic and quality of the writing. I (for good reason) try to limit myself to "look at these cool pictures!"

@GeeEss
Very cool Ron...I'm gonna enjoy looking through it.

@Nighthiker hmmm...I generally find the signs in the middle of nowhere and not a soul around. Seems bad luck to be called out by a property owner and even worse law enforcement. I don't go past a no trespass sign but I might walk a fence line a ways. The app could give you info about legality of cr...

@big_load
Agree! But it's frustrating to be shut down by a sign. The app might supply plausible denial....

@Pivo
Sounds useful. I have a long standing gripe about "unanticipated" private property signs hindering planned trips. I guess this could provide immediate ground truth if needed. I wonder how the map information is meant to apply to corner crossing in checkerboard country?