@Alligatorjoe I am in tears today. I drove my 2014 Honda CR-V up Forest Road 172 and I was expecting a parade of ATV's, Razors and Jeeps driven by Snowbirds on the way but only saw two ATV's and one pickup truck along the entire route. The water damage is of two kinds, number 1 being the rains have...

Check the recent posts for the area off of Woodbury and Rogers Trough. I am planning a trip to Rogers Trough later this week and will give you a report on the current road conditions.

They probably got tired of the publicity and removed themselves to a more secluded spot.

Or you could go a little bit higher and spend the night on Black Top Mesa and watch the Moon set late that evening.
It is a magical place on that mesa overlooking Weavers Needle..... Just sayin.........

What condition is the road from 88 to the trail head?

With the water damage is that road even open to bicycles?

Lets all begin to carry a skeet gun and practice as we hike or backpack.
We will call it "Down A Drone" and record the results on HAZ Culture.

Says the HAZ'er that posted twice... ha ha

Or maybe it was just a pair of those cheap AA batteries purchased at Dollar Tree?

I say repair the road and hell with the costs!

Currently you cannot even cross the cement highway at Tortilla Flats!

Not all of the Eastern area burned and there have been some hikers from HAZ that have reported on their findings. The only unfortunate part is that the road is blocked at Tortilla Flat except for the USFS, ADOT and SRP that have padlocks on the gate.

Better yet consider moving on into the eastern Superstitions for a part of the trip. You will see less day hikers and meet a few backpackers. There are Indian ruins, Ranching ruins and better options for water. You just might run into Wally our Joe Bartles checking out the apples at Reavis Ranch. : ...

It HOT and backpacking at night until you reach the higher elevations is the better choice......

Not if you leave May 1st and plan on getting up at 1 AM to start your day.

Time to close this thread. HAZ users are now sending comments to themselves.

The problem may have been just caused by stupid volunteers at the gate. Keep in mind that this was years ago and the State Park was small with very few employees. Not as well organized as it now is....

I found the source. It is Apache Lake Marine & Resort Facebook website. Road opens tomorrow. No time mentioned.