@LosDosSloFolks
I think the Moody Blues might have had some chemical influence in their inspiration. But it's still a little early in the day for me.

@azlaurie This is so true! Really, what “colors” we each see may in fact be totally different from each other!

It makes me question everything. What is real, and what is just a fabrication of our imagination!?

Like birds!

Sometimes I pick up hitchhikers, or hitch myself, especially in National Parks when setting up a hiking shuttle (*see, this is totally hiking related!) Last week I picked up a hitchhiker and he asked me how I knew he wasn't a serial killer. I told him the chances of two serial killers being in the s...

I had no idea that naming peaks in a Wilderness requires an act of Congress. So Brother and Sister are just some other HAZ-made-up monikers. Catherine? Nope. Sorry 9L. https://www.cpr.org/2020/02/24/one-does-not-simply-name-a-colorado-mountain-theres-a-bureaucracy-you-need-to-follow/ Moving mountain...

Here: [ Waterslides Canyon ]

If you've read the proposal that the city council voted on and submitted to the forest service you'd know that the commercial development is not slated to use groundwater. In the proposal, Stilo offered to agree to a "complete prohibition" on commercial groundwater use" But that's not mentioned by t...

@lindaann I fully respect your personal opinion.

@LindaAnn Quote from the Act linked in the very first line of the page you linked to. From 1872 . That said public park shall be under the exclusive control of the Secretary of the Interior, whose duty it shall be, as soon as practicable, to make and publish such rules and regulations as he may dee...

Scenery is a hollow enjoyment to the tourist who sets out in the morning after an indigestible breakfast and a fitful night's sleep on an impossible bed. That quote is by Stephen Mather (who was the first director of the NPS). As far back as 1872 in Yellowstone, private concessionaires have been co...

Tough_Boots wrote: ↑

Feb 14 2020 9:11 am

religious holiday

I truly admire your skill at stirring the pot. But Christmas trees are not religious symbols. Just like this isn't offensive to non-Christians.
Now let's get back to discussing the actual topic instead of what qualifies as a religious symbol.

While I agree with @linDAann in principle, I think the dispute here stems from the local zoning and regulations not taking into account the greater effects on sensitive ecosystems outside of their municipal borders. The population of Tusayan is 600. The last public vote on the project in 2017 was 60...

Whatever the land owner or management agency puts there or permits somebody else to put there.

@Tough_Boots
Good question. I stand corrected: it IS very confusing!

@Mountain_Rat
It's the actual text of the actual order written and published by the USDA Forest Service enforceable by law.

It is not influenced by google, hall monitors, other hikers, or "your sources".

So I'd respectfully ask again: what part of the forest order is not straight forward?

it's as clear as mud I'm confused. What part of the following is unclear? The following acts are prohibited within the area described ... and as depicted on the attached map: 1. Going into or being upon the Restricted Area. Exemptions: 5. Persons using the following National Forest System trails: V...

@Jim_H Did you read the forest order? It’s in the link posted above. There is no mention of hiking. Or scouting. Or hunting. There is no ambiguity.

@SpiderLegs Did you read the forest order? It’s in the link posted above. The trails that are exempt from the closure are specifically listed and shown on the accompanying map. There is no ambiguity.

gummo wrote: ↑

Feb 11 2020 12:53 pm

It's only a matter of time when ranchers and mining will infiltrate our favorite areas.

And that's why it shouldn't be considered just Hackberry Springs, and sharing caves and ruins is bad. HAZ forum topic linking ftw!

Apparently the BLM, and Nevada, are corrupt.

Save Buckwheat! O'tay!
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/magaz ... ent-100595

wookin pa nub... at the clown motel in Tonopah!

@astrobrewer A moderator in a popular online hiking group who is from Lima, Peru asked publicly for the dimensions of the bench, and in December 2018 the memorial bench seat with coordinates of a cemetery in Lima, Peru was placed as part of the seat repair. The group professes to educate new hikers...