Thanks for the input. My friend and I are trying to go at the end of September camping down to Phantom Ranch, it looks like you get the walk-in permit on the south rim? that's a 4hour drive to the north rim!! I am definately going to try and call to see what is available. Thanks for the advice.

I am trying to find out if anyone has ever tried to get a last minute walk-in permit for backpacking the north rim? It seems that I put my application in to hike the north rim to phantom ranch in too late and my days got denied. So it looks like my only option is trying the walk-in and getting a per...