Thanks again for the info guys. We decided to start from Gisela and hike up stream as far as we could, to camp. Unfortunatly, that wasn't very far(about three miles in) and don't get me wrong I bet we hiked about six or so to get there. It was rough terrain. Now we have a good idea what we'll need n...

Hey man, I apperciate the feed back. Thanx.

Whats goin' on guys and girls. Some of my partners are looking at hiking Hells Gate wilderness in the middle of July. They want to take trail #37 down to the canyon that Tonto creek flows in,and hike that down to Gisela. They want me to go with them. I have a couple worries; 1. The heat. 2. What is ...