Active survey they have open right now that was just shared on a slide: https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=XGm5lg5PvUKK37p1V2A0a_-t8Ay4JUhDriQIatjt6URUNDkxV1NWMkJHSFhDVzNPTlhaSTBEVlZSQi4u&origin=QRCode Edit: Looks like this is the same survey Chumley shared a few posts back on D...

Just found out about this meeting myself.

The circus has indeed commenced.


Webex link under the jan 23rd entry:
https://www.phoenix.gov/parks/board

Direct link to the webex:
https://cityofphoenix.webex.com/cityofp ... 2237747577

Thermal wars continue. The guy that launched that petition has certainly put a lotta work into this. https://www.ahwatukee.com/news/city-parks-board-comes-under-increasing-fire/article_087a2c86-c7a8-11ef-81c3-a756e32790fd.html "The city noted Phoenix trails were closed on 45 days due to extreme...

@LindaAnn
Oh I'm sure some are already chomping at the bit. =(

I'm not generally one to actively engage in things like petitions, but given the already apparent short history of this trainwreck, who knows, maybe it'll have some effect?

https://www.change.org/p/keep-phoenix-t ... e-closures

I just love how the article tries to lick the boots with some 'stats' on the 'omg yay declining numbers of rescues!'. Zero context though. The ratio of hiker-miles to rescues might be identical simply based on the reduction of miles hiked due to pooey hours/closures. The rescues that still happened ...

As usual, the expansion of overreach and nanny state bs continues, exactly as predicted. https://www.phoenix.gov/newsroom/parks-and-recreation/3256 Phoenix Parks Board Approves Expansion of Trail Closure Program to South Mountain and Implements Earlier Trail Closures October 25, 2024 8:00 AM On Thur...

Really just looking to get out and relax, but some nearby day hikes that will keep my camera shutter busy would be ideal. And obviously, something easily passable in a BMW with VERY road-oriented tires and not a ton of ground clearance. I kinda got rid of my go-anywhere 4wd options though, and need ...

now a year round policy, with no dissenting votes.

some bits during meeting so far

Phoenix Parks and Recreation twitter feed, posts/dates indicating heat closures: posted date: content Jul 13: Announcement of pilot program Aug 2: notice of excessive heat warning, trails to close aug3-4 Aug 3: notice of excessuve heat warning, no mention of closure Aug 4: 'excessive heat warning ha...

@ShatteredArm So, an excessive heat watch, which is the requirement outlined in the test phase, has what seems like two methods for being triggered. Can be one, or both. Option 1: Heat index (factors air temperature and relative humidity) expected to be greater than 105f Option 2: Overnight lows of...

I anxiously await the complete lack of meaningful data that the FF union promised to gather PRIOR to the last meeting/enacting the 'temporary' policy, as well as what I bet will be meaningless data with nothing more than happy correlation vs. real cause-effect results from the 'temporary' period. DG...

Just sitting here reminiscing of the July 4th hike I did many years ago (Camelback traverse from Echo to bottom of Cholla and back.) Got stuck in a traffic jam going back up Cholla. The cause? Ironically, a painfully slow-moving herd of firefighters (all sporting their station logos/shirts/numbers) ...

Another collection of metrics that will apparently be interesting (although Phoenix Fire had nothing but excuses for why they didn't even have the basics on hand, or why they can't be bothered to collect data)... It was a pretty solid consensus in the meeting that much like closing a road, traffic w...

passed. only porter and perea voted no.

aaaaaand its going downhill now....

Some good intelligent discussion in the meeting. Surprising.