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by Thoreau
Oct 28 2021 6:00 pm
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"
Replies: 145
Views: 9161

Re: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"

now a year round policy, with no dissenting votes.
by Thoreau
Oct 26 2021 9:33 pm
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"
Replies: 145
Views: 9161

Re: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"

Phoenix Parks and Recreation twitter feed, posts/dates indicating heat closures: posted date: content Jul 13: Announcement of pilot program Aug 2: notice of excessive heat warning, trails to close aug3-4 Aug 3: notice of excessuve heat warning, no mention of closure Aug 4: 'excessive heat warning ha...
by Thoreau
Oct 26 2021 9:07 pm
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"
Replies: 145
Views: 9161

Re: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"

@ShatteredArm So, an excessive heat watch, which is the requirement outlined in the test phase, has what seems like two methods for being triggered. Can be one, or both. Option 1: Heat index (factors air temperature and relative humidity) expected to be greater than 105f Option 2: Overnight lows of...
by Thoreau
Oct 26 2021 7:19 am
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"
Replies: 145
Views: 9161

Re: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"

I anxiously await the complete lack of meaningful data that the FF union promised to gather PRIOR to the last meeting/enacting the 'temporary' policy, as well as what I bet will be meaningless data with nothing more than happy correlation vs. real cause-effect results from the 'temporary' period. DG...
by Thoreau
Sep 02 2021 10:25 am
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"
Replies: 145
Views: 9161

Re: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"

Just sitting here reminiscing of the July 4th hike I did many years ago (Camelback traverse from Echo to bottom of Cholla and back.) Got stuck in a traffic jam going back up Cholla. The cause? Ironically, a painfully slow-moving herd of firefighters (all sporting their station logos/shirts/numbers) ...
by Thoreau
Jul 13 2021 7:36 pm
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"
Replies: 145
Views: 9161

Re: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"

Another collection of metrics that will apparently be interesting (although Phoenix Fire had nothing but excuses for why they didn't even have the basics on hand, or why they can't be bothered to collect data)... It was a pretty solid consensus in the meeting that much like closing a road, traffic w...
by Thoreau
Jul 13 2021 6:36 pm
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"
Replies: 145
Views: 9161

Re: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"

passed. only porter and perea voted no.
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by Thoreau
Jul 13 2021 5:36 pm
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"
Replies: 145
Views: 9161

Re: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"

Some good intelligent discussion in the meeting. Surprising.
by Thoreau
Jul 13 2021 9:37 am
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"
Replies: 145
Views: 9161

Re: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"

@joebartels Right? Aside from disallowing use during the "safer" lower temperatures, I've personally seen injuries on the trail (involving the fire department, morphine, and a lotta blood... not me tho!) because people end up rushing to get back down and out of the parking lot before the tickets st...
by Thoreau
Jul 12 2021 9:05 pm
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"
Replies: 145
Views: 9161

Re: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"

I love how that story was published today at 736pm. Deadline to register to speak at the meeting being today as well (as if the city is open late taking such requests.)
by Thoreau
Jul 12 2021 8:53 pm
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"
Replies: 145
Views: 9161

Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"

Meeting is tomorrow, July 13th... https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix-breaking/2021/07/12/phoenix-fire-union-seeks-trail-restrictions-during-hot-weather/7945916002/ "The Phoenix fire union is asking the city’s Parks and Recreation board to consider closing several challenging Valley t...
by Thoreau
Jun 01 2021 6:35 am
Forum: GPS & Electronic
Topic: SPOT or Garmin InReach??
Replies: 13
Views: 2695

Re: SPOT or Garmin InReach??

Yet another InReach vote. I've had two generations of SPOT prior, then the first Delorme InReach, and now the Garmin InReach Mini. Mostly just reiterating what's already been said, but the sat constellation with Iridium is much better, and that alone was reason enough to make the jump. The (at one t...
by Thoreau
Dec 29 2020 7:31 pm
Forum: Bike
Topic: Bell on a Bicycle
Replies: 29
Views: 5995

Re: Bell on a Bicycle

@Thoreau On what trail do you do most of your riding I ride frequently everywhere from the Tucson area up to Flag, but most mileage has been near home at either Phoenix Mountains Preserve, or Brown's Ranch. @Thoreau When it comes to alerting hikers or other bikers to my approach, I've always found ...
by Thoreau
Dec 29 2020 4:27 pm
Forum: Bike
Topic: Bell on a Bicycle
Replies: 29
Views: 5995

Re: Bell on a Bicycle

Just in case it's not clear to all, there are bad actors in every scene. I dislike the implied connotation that one bad actor represents them all. When I was a serious cyclist, there was serious dislike by many cyclists about hikers that wear earbuds in both ears (shoutout to the other thread... re...
by Thoreau
Nov 30 2019 7:17 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Illegal outfitter guides convicted, banned from national forests
Replies: 44
Views: 2177

Re: Illegal outfitter guides convicted, banned from national forests

The launching/landing location is not irrelevant-- it's the only thing that can be regulated by any agency (federal or local) other than the FAA. You can generally fly a drone over a wilderness area as long as you're not launching/landing/operating from within the wilderness boundaries. https://www...
by Thoreau
Nov 29 2019 2:28 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Illegal outfitter guides convicted, banned from national forests
Replies: 44
Views: 2177

Re: Illegal outfitter guides convicted, banned from national forests

Also, last I knew, it's not illegal to fly a drone in a wilderness area, however it is illegal to launch and land a drone in a wilderness area. Wilderness designated areas are a no fly zone as much for drones as they are for manned aircraft. Wanna say the restriction is for anything lower than 2000...

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