@DBmooner: Thanks for the suggestion! Are there rules about how close you can camp to Knoll lake? I thought I remembered something about staying 1/4 mile from the water, but I'm not sure.

Hello all, A group of us had a long weekend (Thu afternoon - Sun) planned at a friend's primitive cabin but it has fallen through. Now I'm scrambling to find a backpacking trip instead. We have a couple of people coming who have never backpacked before (there are 6 of us). I'm thinking Payson area b...

Thanks for the help chumley! This info is just what I needed

Thanks to another post in this message board, we are looking at backpacking and camping somewhere around Haigler Creek this weekend. We'd like to find a secluded spot a few miles from any trailhead/campground/day use. It looks like our options are to start from Fisherman's Point or Alderwood Campgro...

Looking at going up around Payson this weekend (or really anywhere three hours or less from Phoenix with flowing water for filtering). We will be leaving Friday afternoon and coming back sometime on Monday. We generally always wind up going to Horton creek and camping there, but I'd like something n...

My friends and I have taken a total of 4 backpacking trips and every one has included being able to have a fire. We are thinking of doing Kinder Crossing this weekend and of course, no fires allowed. We can filter water and use my backpacking stove, so it should be okay. My question is, what are som...

Well, it looks like fire restrictions for the whole state now. I guess we're going without a fire (which I've never done). That opens up a lot for us, but I still like what I've seen from Kinder Crossing. Are we allowed to camp where ever if we're not going to have a fire, or do we need to camp at a...

I was looking at Kinder Crossing. The pictures look amazing. Are there quite a few spots around there with fire rings?

Hello, we had our annual "Man Camp" guys getaway scheduled for the weekend of June 10th. We are coming from Phoenix and there are 5 of us. We were originally going to do our usual easy hike up Horton Trail and camp by the stream, but fire restrictions are in effect. It looks like the Cocon...