STEELERS EH? ...............ARRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o Just kidding, sort of. Yeah I'll have unfrozen liquid as well that the iced will keep cold. So much nicer having cold, or at least cooler hydration! :D Looking forward to meeting y'all even if I'll probably be left in your dust ...

The Safeway on the Estrella Pkwy sounds like the way to go. Dwnorth, can you meet us there? what kind of car do you have that we should look for? Alex, do you know where that lot is at Papago Park? I’m gonna rely on you for directions there after we leave my house. A half hour won’t make much diffe...

If it turns out I need a ride do you guys have room for one more along the way? I can meet y'all anywhere it's convenient out this way in Avondale or Goodyear.

think you've received some incorrect information. Perhaps I have, but the information I've found published online and in books puts Quartz Peak trail at 2472 ft +- elevation change each way. Therefore completing this hike is like doing the Grand Canyon one way. But I've been wrong before. :? Sunday...

Quite a long bit of the drive in requires high clearance, 4x4 isn't necessary though. Too far to hike in, in my opion. Sunday works for me. Still awaiting an answer on my friend with the truck. Perhaps you guys are out of my league because I wouldn't call this a short hike. Short in distance but I t...

I'm game to do it again. Have you gone over to Butterfly Mountain from Quartz? No I didn't. Wasn't aware of it. But sounds like a great idea!! The friend I hiked with that day has a high clearance vehicle. I can't speak for him but if he can make it that day I'm sure he'd be willing to give a ride ...

Just did this hike last week and it's not your 'average' 6 mile hike. It's quite a trek since, as mentioned above, it's an elevation change of approx 3000 ft or so. :sweat: But the view from the top is spectacular!! As is the bizarre sight of a quartz tipped mountain. I'm game to do it again and pre...