Fair enough. I figured seclusion might be challenging. I'm an east coaster so I'm not incredibly familiar with the camping options in AZ. I've done several hikes in greater Phoenix and Sedona but not much car camping. Any secluded options near water within a 2 hour drive north of Phoenix that you ca...

I'm planning on doing some car camping, day hiking and swimming off the Apache trail in early May. Does anyone have any suggestions on the best parts of the trail to car camp in the most secluded areas? We're respectful campers who love the outdoors and great hikes, but also want the convenience of ...