@xthine I am also quite curious what the upcoming weekends will bring. My hypothesis remains there is a bell curve to the number of people that are unwilling to put effort in to researching what is still open, what is still car accessible, riding a bike to trails, mapping out less used trails, road...

DixieFlyer wrote:true...but where can you get hand sanitizer at these days?

Keep some Campsuds or a tiny container of dish soap and a full gallon water jug in your car... Just as effective, if not more, according to the experts.

@Jim_H Trying to make the best of it - been taking lessons learned from backpacking and trying to apply it to general daily living. Like how much (how little) TP is the minimum I can use. And making healthy, nutritionally complete and most importantly tasty meals out of entirely shelf stable foods,...

Where is the popcorn emoji when you need it?

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/co ... g-11462749

@tibber re: how they make it so smooth. I can't speak for Joey but I can tell you how I do it: My camera (Panasonic G9) has both in-body and lens stabilization - together they work in tandem to do 6.5 stop stabilization that looks almost gimbal like. It also has electronic image stabilization - whi...

I watched it the other day when I got the youtube notification and yes I can easily say it's one of Joey's best videos to date. I think anyone on this site would enjoy it.

Has the Phoenix city council never heard of the terms "unintended consequences" or "blowback"? I guess we will find out soon enough.

It's still called hiking whether the trailhead is out your back door and you're going for an hour or it's a 3 hour drive away and you're backpacking for a week. Much ado about nothing.

Remember... hiking is dangerous and never go alone! :lol: In keeping with the spirit of SAMBA's post, there are more than a dozen BLM low desert wilderness areas in western AZ that are only 4WD/HC accessible that receive perhaps a few hundred (or less) visitors per year. Many of them have no defined...

New study on respiratory droplets and COVID-19: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2763852?utm Up front, this is a direct link to a scientific journal article that was published March 26th. It is not a biased mainstream media interpretation. The long short of it is that aerosolized re...

@sidhayes @chumley All it says is: "Entering the Restricted Areas with a “group” in excess of the number specified in any public health order. 36 C.F.R. § 261.58(f)" Unfortunately they have not referred to any specific public health order. I am going to assume 10 since that has been then number thr...

@SpiderLegs The general lack of clarity from forest orders is a bit of its own epidemic. I had to read over it about 3 times earlier this morning to fully make sure it means "all public lands are still open". It's just that groups larger than 10 people are prohibited. Notwithstanding the separately...

Tortilla TH Superstitions vs. Deer Creek TH Mazatzals.

Flip a coin.

Which one will be too crowded to be worth it tomorrow Friday?

@Tough_Boots
Hopefully you're right.

Oh beautiful I just can't wait to hear about the overcrowding of undeveloped access points such as Tortilla TH. On Reddit r/phoenix there was recently an active thread where someone was suggesting Tortilla as an alternative to the crowded developed spots. That site gets hundreds of thousands of view...

I always assume Massacre, 1st Water, Peralta, Canyon lake are a crapshoot a day or two after a big rain on the weekends but yeah it sounds busier than a Saturday in the middle of the week. Alarming. Silver lining is every mid-April the filthy casuals :lol: disappear because it's like 89 degrees outs...

@LosDosSloFolks No need to reply to me on the subject. I've used many, many DOIs for citation in my time studying immunology, biology and environmental science. I just don't work in the field so I don't want to make it sound like I'm any kind of expert. It is important that when someone sees a post...

@Tough_Boots
Totally. A lot of the emerging science on this has not been peer reviewed, because it's being done so rapidly. It's worth taking even that with a grain of salt. Hoping for a hike in a socially distant wilderness soon to get away from the clickbait.

@Tough_Boots
I agree with you on that. Not because it was a link in an email but yeah it's a single source. Those with the inclination can look at most or all of the data for themselves.
https://connect.medrxiv.org/relate/content/181

@Tough_Boots DOI links are how institutions access formal science research. It's literally a scientific paper on the cutting edge of studying the epidemiology of COVID-19. People like Dr. Fauci's team, etc. will utilize a DOI link like the one provided in the email and take note of the parameters t...